Terry A. Tiger If a Dr. found a revolutionary cure for cancer and you find out he’s racist, do we just pretend there’s no revolutionary cure for cancer? My point is truth is truth, regardless of where it comes from. Besides, no one is perfect, anyone can be exploited.
I'm afraid Socrates was at least critic of democracy, at worst opposed to it. Democracy is Achilles. Achilles is strong, powerful, can take on almost anyone and anything. But he has a soft spot. Demagoguery - his heel. But as it stands, we have no better system than democracy, so we should do our best to defend that Achilles heel. We need to ensure rational discourse through debate against populism and demagoguery.
Trey Cotherman Democracy at the time was another thing, what now we call oligarchy. What Socrate was against is demagoguery that should stand for our democracy. “Should” because Socrate and the ancient Greeks had no Idea of what a constitution was (the first one is the 1787 American one). The criticisms Socrate moved sound just anachronistic today, they may be legit in a country with a poorly written constitution
@@williamjones7584 You're allowed to question it. In fact, you should. But what would be a bad idea is to doubt it, as that would be akin to doubting that the earth is spherical. But by all means, research it all you want.
My 5th grade nephew and I watched this video as research for a school project. He's completely aware of how divided and angry we are based on whether we support trump. My nephew spoke of arguments he's witnessed and broken friendships he's aware of. Our kids, even the very young ones, are watching us, their minds are forming and they're learning how to treat others. I hate to imagine what they run across on the internet and TV. The hateful campaign ads we're bombarded with for months before an election highlight behavior we'd never accept from our children. We're better than this. We're smarter than this. Ultimately, I don't even think it matters which party you're in or who you voted for. We're being manipulated by people in positions of power and influence. That's nothing new but it feels so much worse now, very personal and like we could do some lasting damage. Doesn't matter who occupies the oval office, the middle class continues to disappear with stagnant wages + inflation. One thing doesn't change. Obscene amounts of money continues to be filtered to the wealthiest who for reasons I don't understand can never have enough. I'd be less disgusted if the rules weren't totally skewed in their favor. disappeTrump cited a state of “national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare” to explain why the 2.1 percent pay increase scheduled to take effect in January is “inappropriate.” Trump also nixed a scheduled “locality pay increase,” a yearly paycheck adjustment based on where in America a federal employee is based. “I have determined that for 2019, both across the board pay increases and locality pay increases will be set at zero,” the president wrote.aring for decades while wealthy people have the money & influence to keep an obscene amount of money flowing into their pockets. I recently became aware of very unfair things a past President did while in office. I thought highly of him. Now I think both major parties have been bought by lobbyists and anyone who can give money to their NEXT election. They should worry more about representing the voters who put them in office and less about financing their re-election campaign. It's a real slap in the face. I haven't met a single person who wanted to give control of their personal data to internet service providers so they can sell it. Congress and Trump knew the whole country hated that idea so they did it anyway. WHY? I'll be shocked if anyone can defend that. I'm so sick of almost every single politicians. we should vote them out and start over again. with term limits this time because the longer they're in there the more indebted they become too people other than their constituents.
John Smith Maybe you (I’m not American) should look at facts and base ur opinions strictly on them, without saying to every person with “The media is the problem”. Facts are facts, no matters who says what
Black Sswan55 exactly! Enough already with the media blaming! If the media was lying the way trump wants you to think it is, there would be lawsuits all day every day. He said "fake news" because he wanted to be sure his followers would stay dumb! Of course not all news is fake news, just the ones that report the facts or the underground conspiracy channels that are clearly fueled by hate and division (ie Alex Jones). The Reagan Era coined it "liberal media" app you would distrust it but the Trump Era called it "fakes news" so you wouldnt even hear the truth no matter how factual it was because truth is the enemy. This distrust of our news sources is just a way to play you against your own best interests.
@@alisonwonderlandof1 Ik your comment is a year old but i can’t tell you how refreshing that is to see…like an actual smart comment. omg I constantly had none stop arguments of people blaming the media and then go and say “well democrats don’t know how to take there own responsibilities” which is utter bull shit but oh well….also like hate is just so normalized…like…in one day, ONE DAY I came across two homophobic videos and the comment sections are just….so disgusting…like I almost teared up because they genuinely believe they are the good guys….and….I’m gonna be honest…idk what to do… :(
Read Plato’s Republic, Socrates was a big critic of democracy. Read also Edmund Burke critic of democracy. I personally believe people should pass a civics exam in order to vote
Jordan Rodriguez That’s a common mistake, the ancient Greeks had no idea of what our democracies are. They called democracy (δημοκρατία) what now we call oligarchy: they were very exclusive and only autochthonous male adults could vote. What they criticized is demagoguery (δημαγωγία). The problem is that they had no idea of what a constitution is, so every criticism moved by the ancient Greeks today is just anachronistic. At least where there are constitutions.
Takes more than a civic exam. Socrates said that they need to invested into history to have a true understanding of the weight their vote carries and the value of it. In the USA, we had people voting for Obama cause he was black. That's a foolish vote. We had people voting for Hillary cause she's a woman. That's a foolish vote. We had people voting for Biden cause he's not Trump. That's a foolish vote.
the problem with democracy in the modern world is that the average person refuses to be burdened with the task of self-education. Instead, they seek quick, easy means of gathering an idea that sounds good enough to feel like it gives them a good chance of standing their ground in a conversation, knowing that if all else fails, they will demand respect that they feel entitled to for being a member of the human race, regardless of how little time or effort they put into gathering their idea. The quick, easy means of gathering an idea that people like this use is generally their favorite news station. Those TV shows are chock-full of would-be experts, passionate commentators, and self-righteous spokespeople who usually need to do little more than flash a bar graph and a headline to hook their audience on an idea. Their followers, full of passion and foolhardy, run to their social gatherings and events, armed with whatever sentences the nice person on TV told them to believe. These events include the ballot box. People vote based on an idea they spent almost no time or effort to form, most often copied from someone on TV or a similar venue, effectively giving the people who manage those venues extra votes in the form of their near-mindless constituents. So democracy nowadays is less about allowing for the mass population to have a voice, and more about companies being the first person to the eardrum of the lazy.
thata all true.. but the problem is that The US does not have a real democracy anymore since ww2. It does not matter who is elected if you have only 2 choices and both are financed by the same corporations. In a democracy the governement is acting in the interest of the people, not the one of the arms and oil industrie. its hardly in the peoples interest to be at war with someone on average 95% of their life.
When a state becomes too big it becomes impossible for people to have a fair say in it. If the state is the size of your neighborhood then you'd know the person you elected as a representative, and hold them personal accountable for their promises or breaking thereof, like you would any other person you hire. If the state was the size of your neighborhood you'd see the mechanics of how things get implemented, how funding is spent, and you'd hold people accountable of their promises. If the state were the size of your neighborhood you'd see the effects of elected policies much clearer, and it might be easier relocating if you couldn't get along with policies. Democracy is not necessarily a bad idea, but it is majority rulership, and it requires an enlightened and engaging populous to work fairly.
in US democracy, what power except choosing between 2 miserable presidential candidates and the member of parlament their party tells them to vote for do the people have?
The title 'Democracy vs. Demagogue' is misleading. It makes it seem as if they are two different things when in fact they are not. @0:15 The narrator says, "In U.S. Democracy...". This isn't a democracy. The Supreme Law of the Land, at Article IV Section 4, guarantees each state a Republican form of government. The people who founded this country were vehemently opposed to 'democracy', and for good reason. Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, agitation, discontent, anarchy, censorship, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license. Edit: And instead of drawing a picture that looks oddly similar to Trump, he can just as easily draw a picture that looks like Biden who is currently running the place into the ground 6 years after this video was posted.
The Mexican Government is not going to pay to build the wall yo 😂 God Bless All These American Patriots World Wide and instead of a bunch of extreme and narrow minded promised actions that never get done let's fix the real problem. Ourselves. God Bless and Much Love
2:40 the problem is that most of the people are unable to do thise things. Democracy as a birthright is a failure and funny enough it was pointed out from the moment of it's inception in the ancient greece. Thousands of years later it is shown democracy is a failure because it gives everyone the power of the vote. Let me put you in perspective. You work at a company (majority of people at a private owned company). A new manager needs to be hired (ceo, department manager, etc, top leading position in that company). How does the company hire a new manager? A. Ask all employees about the candidates that have presented themselves? B. A few skilled people test and select the best candidate based on their skill, trackrecord and potential ... Would you trust your colleague at work with your future? As in hand them kver your money and trust they will do with your money what is in your best interest? Real life question. Look around and give the reply to yourself. Walking down the street would you give all your money to anyone and trust they will take care od you? Do this for the next month salary. Practical experiment. Go in the street and give all the money to any random stranger and tell them they can have that money as long as they can take care of your best interest, no accountability, no nothing. You have no idea who they are so they can go free and do whatever, even take that money and never see or hear each other again. This is democracy. Giving all that money to anyone, without knowing their abilities and skill or even their moral compass. This is thousands of years of stupid. The better minority being forced into the slaughter house by the billions of sheep, their voices suffocated by the tsunami of imbecicles screaming their "birth rights", the victims of democracy and their elected demogogues.
Mike Brandon Unfortunately none of the alternatives are much better - there aren’t many philosopher kings to be had. In any case even philosopher kings are prone to be corrupted by power over time. A republic with a constitution is perhaps the best approach to protecting the people from their own foolishness and stupidity. It would also make sense to have some filtering process placed on candidates by political parties - it’s far too easy for billionaires and reality tv stars to run for office. We also might want to consider forming citizen panels and charge them with researching major issues and making policy suggestions in an informed and deliberative manner - kind of like option B in your example.
Mike Brandon That’s a common mistake, the ancient Greeks had no idea of what our democracies are. They called democracy (δημοκρατία) what now we call oligarchy: they were very exclusive and only autochthonous male adults could vote. What they criticized is demagoguery (δημαγωγία). The problem is that they had no idea of what a constitution is, so every criticism moved by the ancient Greeks today is just anachronistic. At least where there are constitutions.
Mike Brandon The big point of our democracy is that it keeps the power distributed and still allows us to cooperate. Constitutions are fundamental because when they work properly they prevent demagoguery, tyranny and oligarchy
So to sum it up the Republicans and Democrats are the real life personification of the Spider-Man Pointing at Spider-Man meme where they claim how the other is the real/true demagogue.
@@masc6287 No. Both sides are not the same, I have yet to see Democrats attempt to violently overthrow the government in an insurrection like on Jan 6th. Further more I don't see confederate flags, and swastikas at Democrat rallies nor do I see them frequenting white nationalist conventions.
@@WolfA4 So you don't believe that both parties participate in a bit of demagoguery? Not to sound mean spirited but as someone from another country looking at your politics and media in the US it seems that both parties participate in their own fair share of demagoguery. I assume your a Democrat by your earlier statements so you might take this as an attack or personal but it seems that a lot of Americans have so much bias towards their own parties that they have trouble acknowledging the flaws that both parties share.
@@WolfA4 Plus you might not realise this but your statement about 'I don't see confederate flags, and swastikas at Democrat rallies nor do I see them frequenting white nationalist conventions' is using the association fallacy. Plus years of violent protesting and fires started by protesting is political violence just like how Jan 6th should be considered political violence. Plus if you consider 2,000-2,500 crazed protestors storming a capital building an insurrection then couldn't you consider the millions of protestors burning, looting and attacking government buildings an insurrection too? Plus the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) was definitely an insurrection. But remember both are the extremes of their political affiliations and we should no brush the entire parties they were affiliated with as being the same as them.
@@masc6287 Oh you aren't American? Then your opinion doesn't matter to me. How would you like it if a bunch of Americans started posting about your country's politics to influence people in a way that may see them not participate in elections?
Someone who claims Trump is a demagogued is either STUPID or A LIAR +Alexandru is a disease, have fun working for a living you fucking parasite filth Trump is the first non-demagogued since democracy was formed by cliestanes in 508 BC, so quite Ironic that ignorant people would claim such a misnomer. And if you know what a demagogy is and you still miscategorize him then you are a liar and are using coercion, an act of violence against people, criminals like that should be in Jail and tortured.
Except the 1933 autobahn was little but propaganda. No German ever wanted to be forced to work on the autobahn, as it offered incredibly shoddy pay and backbreaking work. And the Allied bombing did not help either. The propaganda films about the autobahn had also been shown to foreigners to try and impress the world, in the process turning it into a target. Sure, Germany at the time promised labor for everyone with the autobahn. But it was no more rewarding than seasonal berry picking in Siberia. It wasn't before the 1950s that the autobahns began to be properly repaired and construction continued. And it took all the way until the 1980s before it was available for public use. And it was only five years ago that the entire project was finished, with several major changes made for efficiency. In reality, the autobahn was little more than a monkey's paw wish for the promises made by the Nazi government.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
Winston Churchill
Terry A. Tiger If a Dr. found a revolutionary cure for cancer and you find out he’s racist, do we just pretend there’s no revolutionary cure for cancer? My point is truth is truth, regardless of where it comes from. Besides, no one is perfect, anyone can be exploited.
I'm with Socrates
I'm afraid Socrates was at least critic of democracy, at worst opposed to it.
Democracy is Achilles. Achilles is strong, powerful, can take on almost anyone and anything. But he has a soft spot. Demagoguery - his heel. But as it stands, we have no better system than democracy, so we should do our best to defend that Achilles heel. We need to ensure rational discourse through debate against populism and demagoguery.
Trey Cotherman Democracy at the time was another thing, what now we call oligarchy. What Socrate was against is demagoguery that should stand for our democracy. “Should” because Socrate and the ancient Greeks had no Idea of what a constitution was (the first one is the 1787 American one). The criticisms Socrate moved sound just anachronistic today, they may be legit in a country with a poorly written constitution
Socrates and Aristotle didn't like democracy, it sucks.
@@Thor.Jorgensen Here after 2 years of a pandemic that we aren't allowed to question because of the science..
@@williamjones7584 You're allowed to question it. In fact, you should. But what would be a bad idea is to doubt it, as that would be akin to doubting that the earth is spherical.
But by all means, research it all you want.
My 5th grade nephew and I watched this video as research for a school project. He's completely aware of how divided and angry we are based on whether we support trump. My nephew spoke of arguments he's witnessed and broken friendships he's aware of. Our kids, even the very young ones, are watching us, their minds are forming and they're learning how to treat others. I hate to imagine what they run across on the internet and TV. The hateful campaign ads we're bombarded with for months before an election highlight behavior we'd never accept from our children. We're better than this. We're smarter than this. Ultimately, I don't even think it matters which party you're in or who you voted for. We're being manipulated by people in positions of power and influence. That's nothing new but it feels so much worse now, very personal and like we could do some lasting damage. Doesn't matter who occupies the oval office, the middle class continues to disappear with stagnant wages + inflation. One thing doesn't change. Obscene amounts of money continues to be filtered to the wealthiest who for reasons I don't understand can never have enough. I'd be less disgusted if the rules weren't totally skewed in their favor.
disappeTrump cited a state of “national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare” to explain why the 2.1 percent pay increase scheduled to take effect in January is “inappropriate.” Trump also nixed a scheduled “locality pay increase,” a yearly paycheck adjustment based on where in America a federal employee is based. “I have determined that for 2019, both across the board pay increases and locality pay increases will be set at zero,” the president wrote.aring for decades while wealthy people have the money & influence to keep an obscene amount of money flowing into their pockets. I recently became aware of very unfair things a past President did while in office. I thought highly of him. Now I think both major parties have been bought by lobbyists and anyone who can give money to their NEXT election. They should worry more about representing the voters who put them in office and less about financing their re-election campaign. It's a real slap in the face. I haven't met a single person who wanted to give control of their personal data to internet service providers so they can sell it. Congress and Trump knew the whole country hated that idea so they did it anyway. WHY? I'll be shocked if anyone can defend that. I'm so sick of almost every single politicians. we should vote them out and start over again. with term limits this time because the longer they're in there the more indebted they become too people other than their constituents.
Maybe the media are the ones who are making a lot of money scaring people. Maybe you should blame them.
Amen!!!
John Smith Maybe you (I’m not American) should look at facts and base ur opinions strictly on them, without saying to every person with “The media is the problem”. Facts are facts, no matters who says what
Black Sswan55 exactly! Enough already with the media blaming! If the media was lying the way trump wants you to think it is, there would be lawsuits all day every day. He said "fake news" because he wanted to be sure his followers would stay dumb! Of course not all news is fake news, just the ones that report the facts or the underground conspiracy channels that are clearly fueled by hate and division (ie Alex Jones). The Reagan Era coined it "liberal media" app you would distrust it but the Trump Era called it "fakes news" so you wouldnt even hear the truth no matter how factual it was because truth is the enemy. This distrust of our news sources is just a way to play you against your own best interests.
@@alisonwonderlandof1 Ik your comment is a year old but i can’t tell you how refreshing that is to see…like an actual smart comment. omg I constantly had none stop arguments of people blaming the media and then go and say “well democrats don’t know how to take there own responsibilities” which is utter bull shit but oh well….also like hate is just so normalized…like…in one day, ONE DAY I came across two homophobic videos and the comment sections are just….so disgusting…like I almost teared up because they genuinely believe they are the good guys….and….I’m gonna be honest…idk what to do… :(
"Maybe change shouldn't be so rapid after all?"
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People aren't even realizing that this was Ronald Reagan. We've been in a Demagoguery since at least the 80s
Socrates, my man 🙌
Read Plato’s Republic, Socrates was a big critic of democracy. Read also Edmund Burke critic of democracy. I personally believe people should pass a civics exam in order to vote
No, even smart people decide emotionally. Just look at the scientist‘s debate over decades: its far from rational.
Read Castoriadis or greek authors from before the decadence.
ohhh mannnn.. im schreenshoting this... u r a life saver
was just doing a debate about that. i completely agree... i was telling the same thing.
Jordan Rodriguez That’s a common mistake, the ancient Greeks had no idea of what our democracies are. They called democracy (δημοκρατία) what now we call oligarchy: they were very exclusive and only autochthonous male adults could vote. What they criticized is demagoguery (δημαγωγία). The problem is that they had no idea of what a constitution is, so every criticism moved by the ancient Greeks today is just anachronistic. At least where there are constitutions.
Takes more than a civic exam. Socrates said that they need to invested into history to have a true understanding of the weight their vote carries and the value of it.
In the USA, we had people voting for Obama cause he was black. That's a foolish vote.
We had people voting for Hillary cause she's a woman. That's a foolish vote.
We had people voting for Biden cause he's not Trump. That's a foolish vote.
Don't know if I'm seeing something that isn't there but...the demagogue model looks like a merge of Bernie and Trump.
Michael Stever actually it looks like Bill Gates. Make you wonder🤔
Bernie just called Trump a demagogue. 😂
I don’t think it matters who he looks like
What? My eyes and ears are bleeding! Since when elections are an expression of democracy?
Lol. You said it. This is a very immature, small minded video.
This video didn’t age well in the US lol
Trump got plenty done, like built a big part of the wall.
the problem with democracy in the modern world is that the average person refuses to be burdened with the task of self-education. Instead, they seek quick, easy means of gathering an idea that sounds good enough to feel like it gives them a good chance of standing their ground in a conversation, knowing that if all else fails, they will demand respect that they feel entitled to for being a member of the human race, regardless of how little time or effort they put into gathering their idea.
The quick, easy means of gathering an idea that people like this use is generally their favorite news station. Those TV shows are chock-full of would-be experts, passionate commentators, and self-righteous spokespeople who usually need to do little more than flash a bar graph and a headline to hook their audience on an idea. Their followers, full of passion and foolhardy, run to their social gatherings and events, armed with whatever sentences the nice person on TV told them to believe.
These events include the ballot box.
People vote based on an idea they spent almost no time or effort to form, most often copied from someone on TV or a similar venue, effectively giving the people who manage those venues extra votes in the form of their near-mindless constituents.
So democracy nowadays is less about allowing for the mass population to have a voice, and more about companies being the first person to the eardrum of the lazy.
thata all true.. but the problem is that The US does not have a real democracy anymore since ww2. It does not matter who is elected if you have only 2 choices and both are financed by the same corporations. In a democracy the governement is acting in the interest of the people, not the one of the arms and oil industrie. its hardly in the peoples interest to be at war with someone on average 95% of their life.
This should have 6 billion views
This video predicted the 2017-2021 presidency.
When a state becomes too big it becomes impossible for people to have a fair say in it.
If the state is the size of your neighborhood then you'd know the person you elected as a representative, and hold them personal accountable for their promises or breaking thereof, like you would any other person you hire.
If the state was the size of your neighborhood you'd see the mechanics of how things get implemented, how funding is spent, and you'd hold people accountable of their promises.
If the state were the size of your neighborhood you'd see the effects of elected policies much clearer, and it might be easier relocating if you couldn't get along with policies.
Democracy is not necessarily a bad idea, but it is majority rulership, and it requires an enlightened and engaging populous to work fairly.
I like it how even the character candidate in your drawings look like Trump. Couldn't be more obvious.
It was recorded when he ran
... I'm glad I watched this.
I think every in America needs to watch this
in US democracy, what power except choosing between 2 miserable presidential candidates and the member of parlament their party tells them to vote for do the people have?
One question what happens when members of all government branches are corrupt?
Yeah, could you please replace the sharpie sounds with nails on a chalkboard instead, holy shit dude i couldn't get past the 3rd second
The title 'Democracy vs. Demagogue' is misleading. It makes it seem as if they are two different things when in fact they are not. @0:15 The narrator says, "In U.S. Democracy...". This isn't a democracy. The Supreme Law of the Land, at Article IV Section 4, guarantees each state a Republican form of government. The people who founded this country were vehemently opposed to 'democracy', and for good reason.
Democracy:
A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic--negating property rights. Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, agitation, discontent, anarchy, censorship, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences. Results in demagogism, license.
Edit: And instead of drawing a picture that looks oddly similar to Trump, he can just as easily draw a picture that looks like Biden who is currently running the place into the ground 6 years after this video was posted.
The Mexican Government is not going to pay to build the wall yo 😂 God Bless All These American Patriots World Wide and instead of a bunch of extreme and narrow minded promised actions that never get done let's fix the real problem. Ourselves. God Bless and Much Love
that marker noise is horrible!!
Insert Trump or Obama based on your preferences.
Trump not Obama
Khalfrank Obama was even more of a populist than Trump.
@@Khalfrank ahhaahhahah "hope and change" lmao
This video is Obama’s legacy
2:40 the problem is that most of the people are unable to do thise things. Democracy as a birthright is a failure and funny enough it was pointed out from the moment of it's inception in the ancient greece. Thousands of years later it is shown democracy is a failure because it gives everyone the power of the vote.
Let me put you in perspective.
You work at a company (majority of people at a private owned company). A new manager needs to be hired (ceo, department manager, etc, top leading position in that company). How does the company hire a new manager?
A. Ask all employees about the candidates that have presented themselves?
B. A few skilled people test and select the best candidate based on their skill, trackrecord and potential
...
Would you trust your colleague at work with your future? As in hand them kver your money and trust they will do with your money what is in your best interest? Real life question. Look around and give the reply to yourself. Walking down the street would you give all your money to anyone and trust they will take care od you?
Do this for the next month salary. Practical experiment.
Go in the street and give all the money to any random stranger and tell them they can have that money as long as they can take care of your best interest, no accountability, no nothing. You have no idea who they are so they can go free and do whatever, even take that money and never see or hear each other again.
This is democracy. Giving all that money to anyone, without knowing their abilities and skill or even their moral compass.
This is thousands of years of stupid.
The better minority being forced into the slaughter house by the billions of sheep, their voices suffocated by the tsunami of imbecicles screaming their "birth rights", the victims of democracy and their elected demogogues.
Mike Brandon Unfortunately none of the alternatives are much better - there aren’t many philosopher kings to be had. In any case even philosopher kings are prone to be corrupted by power over time. A republic with a constitution is perhaps the best approach to protecting the people from their own foolishness and stupidity. It would also make sense to have some filtering process placed on candidates by political parties - it’s far too easy for billionaires and reality tv stars to run for office. We also might want to consider forming citizen panels and charge them with researching major issues and making policy suggestions in an informed and deliberative manner - kind of like option B in your example.
Mike Brandon That’s a common mistake, the ancient Greeks had no idea of what our democracies are. They called democracy (δημοκρατία) what now we call oligarchy: they were very exclusive and only autochthonous male adults could vote. What they criticized is demagoguery (δημαγωγία). The problem is that they had no idea of what a constitution is, so every criticism moved by the ancient Greeks today is just anachronistic. At least where there are constitutions.
Mike Brandon The big point of our democracy is that it keeps the power distributed and still allows us to cooperate. Constitutions are fundamental because when they work properly they prevent demagoguery, tyranny and oligarchy
Double speak double speak double speak double speak!
You have committed a thought crime.
Interesting to see you guys citing Marxist literature. You never cease to amaze.
DEMAGOGUE = Vivek Ramaswamy
The fuck we don't !!!
Well what the fuck do you know...
Well...sad that only has 30k views...
Trump supporters watching this video 4 years later point to the other side of the isle and scream "demagogue".
So to sum it up the Republicans and Democrats are the real life personification of the Spider-Man Pointing at Spider-Man meme where they claim how the other is the real/true demagogue.
@@masc6287 No. Both sides are not the same, I have yet to see Democrats attempt to violently overthrow the government in an insurrection like on Jan 6th. Further more I don't see confederate flags, and swastikas at Democrat rallies nor do I see them frequenting white nationalist conventions.
@@WolfA4 So you don't believe that both parties participate in a bit of demagoguery? Not to sound mean spirited but as someone from another country looking at your politics and media in the US it seems that both parties participate in their own fair share of demagoguery. I assume your a Democrat by your earlier statements so you might take this as an attack or personal but it seems that a lot of Americans have so much bias towards their own parties that they have trouble acknowledging the flaws that both parties share.
@@WolfA4 Plus you might not realise this but your statement about 'I don't see confederate flags, and swastikas at Democrat rallies nor do I see them frequenting white nationalist conventions' is using the association fallacy. Plus years of violent protesting and fires started by protesting is political violence just like how Jan 6th should be considered political violence. Plus if you consider 2,000-2,500 crazed protestors storming a capital building an insurrection then couldn't you consider the millions of protestors burning, looting and attacking government buildings an insurrection too? Plus the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ) was definitely an insurrection. But remember both are the extremes of their political affiliations and we should no brush the entire parties they were affiliated with as being the same as them.
@@masc6287 Oh you aren't American? Then your opinion doesn't matter to me. How would you like it if a bunch of Americans started posting about your country's politics to influence people in a way that may see them not participate in elections?
It’s amazing how RIGHT and WRONG YOU were
Wow that sounds a lot like Obama when he was president!
You're not fully wrong, but Donald Trump is a LITERAL textbook example of a demagogue
I feel like Obama was trying to keep his promises but the rest of the government didn’t want him to
CURRENT PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT
Thumbsdown for sharpie sounds
Trumpagoguery!
This isn't factually accurate, these cartoons should be one black guy and one super old guy who's face looks like it's falling off.
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They just described what Obama did with the ACA. Don't think for one minute this applies to Trump, he isn't a politician.
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Why does the pictures look like Trump
#trump
Someone who claims Trump is a demagogued is either STUPID or A LIAR
+Alexandru is a disease, have fun working for a living you fucking parasite filth
Trump is the first non-demagogued since democracy was formed by cliestanes in 508 BC, so quite Ironic that ignorant people would claim such a misnomer.
And if you know what a demagogy is and you still miscategorize him then you are a liar and are using coercion, an act of violence against people, criminals like that should be in Jail and tortured.
@CaptainZuluGamma Please read- www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/10/james-madison-mob-rule/568351/
lol, if meeting with kim jong un face to face to talk about issues is not uniting then l don't know what is
@@CaptainZuluGamma lol this comment didn't age well
Joe Biden regime
Um the U.S. is a constitutional republic not a democracy.
A republic is a type of democracy. It's an indirect democracy.
1:29 because the campaign was built on extreme promises...
shows Trump like figure building a wall. Savage.
Trump 2020
20 for treason, and 20 for corruption
Trump I have faith in you
You are one of the many stupid and therefore dangerous people and a Russian troll. GTFOOH
yeah look at germany in 1933
building the autobahn
lifting there country out of the worlds most harchest economic crisis before 2021
so bad....
Except the 1933 autobahn was little but propaganda.
No German ever wanted to be forced to work on the autobahn, as it offered incredibly shoddy pay and backbreaking work. And the Allied bombing did not help either. The propaganda films about the autobahn had also been shown to foreigners to try and impress the world, in the process turning it into a target.
Sure, Germany at the time promised labor for everyone with the autobahn. But it was no more rewarding than seasonal berry picking in Siberia.
It wasn't before the 1950s that the autobahns began to be properly repaired and construction continued.
And it took all the way until the 1980s before it was available for public use.
And it was only five years ago that the entire project was finished, with several major changes made for efficiency.
In reality, the autobahn was little more than a monkey's paw wish for the promises made by the Nazi government.
Describe obama more than trump
Excellent propaganda