How to paint a ghosted swirl with spray cans
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2017
- Hey guys! I’m Brad, and I make how-to videos. I do custom painting projects, guitar painting, airbrushing, spray can painting, wood working, and a variety of other finishing work and tutorials. Please subscribe and check out my channel for more!
In this video I demonstrate a technique that I developed for creating a ghosted swirl effect using spray cans and water. I hope you guys enjoy the video,
Don't forget to ask your questions in the comment section.
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Thank you for your help Brad. Your guitars are the mad note.
Thank you
Your channel is exactly what Im looking for thank you so much
I'm glad to hear it. Thanks for watching.
Great idea. Cool vid. Thanks man.
So simple, but brilliant!
+Steve Friedlander Thank you sir.
This technique is awesome. You make it very simple.
+Pedro Reyes Thanks Pedro. I'm glad you like the technique.
You're welcome dude ;)
Wicked awesome video. Nice work.
Thanks Rita. I'm glad you like it.
Thx Brad, always great content!! Been thinking about doing a swirl on a Strat style build although it’s kind of a older deal, but new to me👍
I never ended up doing one on a guitar, but they certainly have the potential to be cool.
Awesome!
Thank you!
Badass, that's a cool way to get a subtle marble effect using swirls. I went through a big Borax-method phase earlier this year and was starting to get some great test results, though I never was able to do a full guitar body. I'll have to get back into it and dabble with some rattle can versions because it definitely seems a lot easier than what I was try to do before. You had to keep track of everything--water temp, borax amount, drying time on the water surface (certain colours would dry faster than others) and all sorts of stuff. It was a world of pain, haha!
I've never had any luck working with the borax method, but to be fair, I only gave it a couple cursory tries. I'm sure it allows for more versatility, but this option is pretty quick and fun.
This guys awesome 👏
Thanks.
Brad Angove I sincerely appreciate the reply. Thanks again
Very kool effect. After seeing this, i think a tote would have been the perfect "bucket" to use to get that depth and space to move your piece around to get more coverage. Good job
I agree; for a small piece like this a tote would have offered plenty of space to work.
Yeah man! That`s the most easy method of swirllll :) I`ve done some parts using this and it`s awesome. You don`t need to beware of mixing borax and the temperature of water. Great vid. Peace
I agree. It’s pretty simple.
What fun! Not that I'm going to get THAT creative, but fun!
Haha fair enough. Thanks!
great work !!! I'm a luthier and I try to swirl or marbeling on guitars, I bought the pebeo marbeling paints, and I got a formula ready for the paints to float easily, but when I apply the paint or background on the guitar and do the dip, the designs run and don't stick to the piece ! I've been trying for almost a year, please what base paint should I use to make the swirl stick to the guitar? thank you very much
My wife has done this technique with white coffee mugs dipping into fingernail polish floating on the surface and then clear coating them. I'd love to try this someday on a guitar body though, that would be cool.
It’s harder on larger pieces unfortunately.
That's a cool technique with the water. I would assume a time limit from time you spray in the paint to dipping, so the paint don't dry on top of water, depending on the paint. As for if it's worth anything, that's a Brad Angove original piece. Got to be worth, well, a dollar, at least, LOL.
+prancstaman you're definitely right about the time limit, but I think the paint has a bit more "open time" the you might think. It's tough for me to wrap my head around why, but the solvents don't seem to behave the same in the water.
There are plenty of Brad Angove originals out there that aren't worth the material they're painted on I'm sure haha.
Are there any paints that can be used to do a Dirty Pour paint job on a guitar, or is the only real option Hydro-Dipping?
I'm afraid I don't know what a dirt pour paint job is. Can you elaborate on that one for me?
Resting nozzle on the edge of the cans lid and spray inside. Then you could avoid some mess and blowback by pouring your pattern. Spraying some bits too would probably be neat. I wonder now what a little clear coat added to the mix would do...
A bit of clear thrown in there would probably have a similar effect to using less paint, albeit a bit more controllable. It would create gaps.
You mention another video where you used a bucket of water, was that also a similar swirling or dipping technique? I am just getting into spraypaint art and such and your videos have been incredibly helpful but I have not seen the one you were talking about.
I don’t have any other dipping or swirling videos. Unfortunately I’m not particularly good at it.
Very cool video, like your other ones, simple and to the point.
Do you think this technique could be used to get good results doing a standard swirl on a guitar body, skipping the ghosting step?
I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work. You would just need a larger container and another person to help out. Ideally you would work together to spray the pattern in there more quickly so that the paint doesn't sit too long, and then one of you would dunk the guitar and the other would clean the excess off the surface.
Awesome, will work up the courage to try it out. Thanks a lot!
I hope it goes well for you!
Brad old vid, have you done a swirl finish on a guitar body? Thanks Rik
Hi Rik. I haven’t, but there are quite a few videos around of people doing it.
Hi Brad, do you think this method could work for something like a ski helmet, or ski boot? I'm concerned about durability. Thank you for all your information
It could work for a helmet and be as durable as a typical helmet paint job if the appropriate clear coat is used.
I think it would just scuff off a boot.
would you have the pattern come through clearer if you used candy paint instead of the metallic? Thanks
Yes. Substantially clearer. Candy paint doesn't have any pigment in it, so it's fully transparent.
I Did it , but some few bubbles etc kind of is seen !! but I'm just letting it to dry ... I have to have to sand it off a lil and apply clear coat and done right ?? And lastly polish abit ?? please reply ! I need your help
Sounds like you’re on the right track to me. I hope you’re happy with it.
Im curious about the type of paint used from rattle cans, in vat of water. Acrylic urethane? Enamel? Hopefully not latex. And since dipped in water, best type of paint for basecoat? I enjoy your videos, very professional and informative. Done a few of my own projects so far and had great results. Thank you. 🎸
My understanding is that swirling is generally done with enamels.
would sanding the surface before what your about to dip, help or ruin the pattern?
+Mike Kazz I sanded the surface before dipping this acrylic. It's to help adhesion. It should affect the pattern.
thank you for answering my question, was gonna buy shifter knobs, mask, or maybe some Gundam model parts, thanks again the video was very useful.
I'm glad to hear it. Best of luck with your upcoming projects.
Muy buena técnica, Pensé que eras el actor Carlos Ferro , de México, te pareces mucho. Saludos
Thank you. I haven’t hear that one before.
*heard
At 7:10 would that be a good reason to use candy? That color would still rock with the transparency
**Edit-- Found the answer in the comments, Can't wait to try it!
Hey Brad, I did the swirl method on an old strat body I had and it turned out awesome! but my problem now is that there are areas with more paint than others. In the thick areas I got a bunch of bubbles. I want to finish it with a clear coat but I'm not sure how to proceed since if I sand the light area it starts fading to the primer color and the heavy areas go dull as opposed to bright glossy finish they have now, haaaaalp!
+seb rozo you have to sand it all lightly anyway to be able to clear coat. The sanding will dull it for now. That's the idea. The clear will bring back the shine. Sand very lightly and carefully on the thinner parts. For the thick areas you can sand it down a bit further. Use 800 grit.
Brad Angove thanks man I needed the reassurance!
I'll let you know how it turns out!
+seb rozo Great. Looking forward to it.
You Make It Look Easy, Brad. I tried Cold water/No Borax & It turned out Like Crap. This Last Time was Warm water/Borax & It Turned OUT WORSE. Rustoleum canned colors were actually setting Up/Skinning Before I Dipped into the water & Didn't Bond Or Cover Even Close To OK & The paint Splashing Out Of the water Stuck to my Arm/Covered better Than the primed Steel I Used = Perplexing
Damn. You were using spray cans as well?
I like. Very cool. A Jazz Bass would be awesome done like that. Bern a while. Hope all is well.
All is well my friend. I'm glad you like the paint job. Thanks for watching.
How do you keep the paint from drying on the surface? I've tried several times and no matter how fast I move the first color I put down is already filming before I can dip my item. I'm using rustoleum 2x btw.
I don’t do anything special to prevent it from filming quickly. Some of their paints do that very quickly though. Is it super hot where you are?
Well...it is Texas so .... yeah. Maybe I should put a bag of ice in the water next time?
The water should be about room temperature.
Can you do a flat colour with gloss? Like a flat black gloss black swirl?
You could probably do that. I’ve never tried it, and it might be pretty subtle, but it should work.
Hey Brad - I know we talked about this the other day on that other video I just now found this video of yours. You pretty much ended up with a regular marble paint job doing it this way. I forgot to tell you the other day that on the one time I actually got the effect to work, I was using actual marbling paint btw, What ended up ruining the entire project was sanding it! When the paint finally dried it had a very rough texture and so prior to applying my top coat I wanted to sand it smooth. I used an 800 grit piece and it took the marbling right off! Oh was I mad!! It went on in such a thin coat apparently that any sanding at all would take it off. I gave up on the idea after that lol. I doubt I try this method your showing us here simply because 1) I don't have a guitar I want that effect on right now and 2) I dont want to get frustrated over it again lol.
Have you ever thought of or tried what they call pouring? I have seen it done but never tried it. I guess, if I understand it correctly, you just literally pour your paint right on to the surface and just move the object your'e painting around to move the paint around on it. A friend of mine on Facebook is into this hobby and she paints all sorts of things. I really want to try it on a guitar and just see if it works. I think a person would have to somehow tape off the pickup and control holes so the paint doesn't just run into them.
Do you have a place where you sell your finished products at?
I’ve also encountered a lot of frustration with the swirl jobs haha.
As for the pouring, I’ve seen it done on canvas but the thickness of those finishes worries me a bit in the guitar context. I’ve never tried it personally. I generally tape my pickup and control cavities regardless though when I’m doing an actual paint job.
I don’t currently have a specific place where I sell finished products. I’m working on starting up a small business selling finished custom replacement bodies and custom pickguards etc. though.
Oh I thought that shop your videos are shot in is your business, lol I am always looking around at the various pieces of equipment and trying to figure out just what the heck you do in that place!!
Have you ever heard of a place called guitarfetish.com? I just found out about them tonight and they have some decent low priced made in America products. You can buy a finished Les Paul style for like $239! A guy on another channel, Darrell Braun, purchased some cheap, $5 each, single coils and then did a sound comparison of those vs expensive $150 each, Fender pups. If that example is how all of their pups sound I know where I will be buying some of my pickups from!
Haha I actually worked there for about 15 years. We do an insane amount of stuff. Now I would say I work “with” them in some ways, but my main job changed shortly after I graduated.
I’ve only done one kit from guitar fetish and it was quite bad. The parts I’ve gotten there seem fine though.
can I do this on my GUITAR?? I sprayed some paint, not happy with it!! so I'm thinking of of Sanding it off a lil & doing this ?? will that be okay ??
If you prep it properly, yes.
+Brad Angove please help!! give me some guidance..
Hi Brad,
Do you have any experience with hydrographics?
I want to apply a hydrographic film over a deep red paint job on an electric guitar.
It's going to be a refinish, so i plan to just scuff up the finish that's already on the guitar, apply a water based red paint, apply the hydrographics and then finish with a water based polyurethane.
Do I have to scuff up the red paint before applying the hydrographics? Do I have to scuff before applying the clear coat? Or can I just apply it over the graphics. I'm scared to damage the graphics, but I do want the poly to stick.
Also, any advice on the type of red paint I should use? I'd like it to be all water based for health reasons.
I hope you can help me, because I can't seem to find any answers to my questions. I can only find video's of people dipping their guitar and showing the end result. None of them answer comments.
BTW, your video's are awesome. They have taught me alot about painting and finishing guitars :)
Unfortunately, I have no experience with hydrographics. I would however say that using a water based paint on something you intend to dip in water probably isn’t a great idea.
Ok thank you for your response :) I'm just going to have to try some things out and see. I guess experience is the best teacher sometimes.
May I ask you another question? When putting on a polyurethane clear coat (with a small spray gun), how many coats do you put on? I've heard a lot of differing numbers from people, ranging from 3 to 15. I'm a little confused.
It depends on the type of polyurethane. I generally use 3-4 coats of catalyzed polyurethane. Some people call water based poly “polyurethane”, and generally do more coats of that. Usually the only time I go above 6 coats is for lacquer.
Ok thank you. That's really helpful :)
You’re welcome
This method can only be done with dipping the thing you’re trying to spray paint right? Just wondering
As opposed to what?
Brad Angove no clue, I wanted to paint this electric scooter I have like that but I don’t think I can do it the way you did the glass
You would need to remove the plastic parts and hydro dip them individually.
How do u avoid getting bubbles
I primed my tile .. grey
Then sprayed some paint in bucket of cold water
Dip at 45 angle really slow
Push awaay remainder paint
Pull out at angle
Let sit to dry have air bubbles when they dry it leaves little rings or fish eyes as some people say
Any help please
That’s a common issue. Did you sand your primer before dipping?
@@BradAngove hey mate no i didnt sand the tile after i primed it just primed with grey primer
Is it best to sand objects after primed
So prime then sand then dip in order i stated in other comment
45 angle dip really slow
Allow to dry and shouldnt have bubbles
I thought maybe i was spraying to close to water and causing bubbles before dip
This was my first few goes at it and only managed 1 good one out of 3 attempts
Will sand anything i prime before dip and see how i go will let u know thanks for tip
Appreciate your reply thanks for responding so fast
Do I use a pool for my car?
And a crane.
ok I already give up with enamel/borax/ warm wather method... I'll give a try to this method...
I hope it goes well for you.
Where’s the piece from the thumbnail?
There’s no piece in the thumbnail. It’s just a clip art image of a ghost on a background.
78 degrees F with borax
Anyway to do a automobile this way??
How big an aquarium do you have?
@@BradAngove 🤪 not that big. Was hoping there was a different method 🙃
There are some acrylic pour methods that are similar, but the essentially require a flat horizontal surface.
Maybe in person???
Maybe what in person? Sorry; I don't see a prior comment on this.
You could probably turn that into a tele control plate
Probably. You can turn a lot of things into a tele control plate haha.
.... Lmfao!!
What I don't appreciate is the video thumbnail showing a giant swirl art with a little man next to it. Yet in the video, it't just tiny little handheld pieces being swirled. Nothing big.
I compared the two side by side. The piece is larger than the thumbnail...
O jeez, the guy who talks alot. Ffs.
Not good at reading channel names? That’s ok. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Sorry dude, just looks like a shitty paint job. Call it ghost or whatever you want. Looks.. not good at all.