The fact that Annie believes everyone, even bad people, are deserving of love is just the most pure thing I've ever seen. Especially from someone living with a trauma based disorder, that mentality is just beautiful beyond words.
I don't know what's worse: that the therapist is ignorant enough to call alters 'demons' or that they think having demons in your head isn't a big deal.
One of our favorite teachers once said that DID/OSDD are just demon possessions, but, we go to a Christian school and hearing too little info about DID/OSDD can make people jump to conclusions, and she’s a science teacher, so if she ever gives us a project to do about mental health, we’re gonna take that opportunity to teach her about why DID/OSDD exists ~Grey
Teachers all know this is nonsense because they are adults. This is typical young people acting out. Has any of you been officially diagnosed by a doctor?
For those of you confused as to why this was reuploaded, the original video was taken down because one of the systems had the Gadsden flag (the yellow one with the snake that says "Dont tread on me") hanging up in the background. The flag has been used in association with groups such as the tea party and white nationalists, so some people expressed their discomfort in seeing the flag because of its negative associations. Entropy had them refilm their section without the flag visible and reuploaded it! Hope that clears things up :) *(Edit: I didn't mean to imply that white nationalists and the tea party are the same thing, I know they often aren't. I was just saying that some members of the community may be very triggered by the symbol and so it was taken down.)*
@Elisa Castro Respectfully, I agree that the flag in and of itself is just a symbol- like the swastika. Both have been taken far out of their original context and used by organizations that PROMOTE racism and hate speech, ect. Whether it's used by the tea party or white nationalists or the differences between the two groups is beside the point. The point IS that, like numerous other symbols with innocent meanings initially, it has been used as a rally point/focus for those with fringe tendencies. It could be flown by the Basket Weavers and Lolipop Makers Against All Humanity members and be offensive. It's not the symbol itself or its origins, it is the purpose to which it's currently put and whether it is offensive to some. As a content creator and positive image channel, ES was well within its purview to ask the system in question to re-film and as such showed their responsibility to their viewers as a WHOLE. We would do the same.
I'm highly disappointed the video had to be re-uploaded because of that. I see another flag that is just as offensive to a certain group of people and most of us would never dream of catering to that ignorance. And we shouldn't... just as we shouldn't have to cater to this other group of ignorantly offended people.
Isn't it a Marine motto? But...thanks for the explanation. Ppl seriously need to chill on this cultural appropriation over sensitivity stuff. I mean...that dude is from my generation (my body age 41) and I know it from tattoos and it being associated with the military ONLY at one time. Whoever used a respected image of our military to denote hate...welll....we can't be stressed by that. It's just sad.
Don’t have DID but, take great comfort watching people thrive within their support systems. We all need to connect to live. I’m appreciative to be allowed to witness your community and see the strength you are able to give each other. Thanks to the internet we can learn from you. Thank you.
Honored to have been apart of such a unifying community experience n to have gotten the chance to share our story. Thank you to Entropy for giving us the opportunity n to the community for continuing to create a safe and understanding environment. We're stronger together ♥️ -Leo
0:43 that makes me feel so valid. people telling me that "oh, you're a minor, minors can't have DID" was so soul crushing and having someone say that they found out they had DID around 15 made us feel valid.
Yes! Just because it’s rarer to be diagnosed so young doesn’t mean it’s impossible or that it doesn’t happen!! We were diagnosed when we were 18 but started noticing signs around 13-14. For the first few years therapy was just torture because no one believed us or even believed in DID in general. It took 2.5 years of bumping from therapist to doctor to specialist… I think we saw almost 30 different professionals before finally meeting the one who finallllly helped us. We worked with her for just over a year before getting our diagnoses.. and then another 8 years after that before she retired. We have been struggling since then to find another that we liked so much. We tried a few different people but no one we clicked with and we haven’t been going since sadly. 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for this video. And thank you to the Neverland system for taking the time to re-record, that was kind, and it's good to see you included. To Leo and the Kairos system, I'm so sorry for your experience with an obviously very bad therapist, in what should have been a safe environment. To tell a client they are possessed by demons is, to say the least, against the code of ethics of the NASW and APA. I'm very sorry that happened, but glad you discovered her extreme ignorance early on.
No DID or OSDD just an ally with a psychology undergraduate degree here. Hope you are feeling loved valid and valuable: and that you enjoyed making this video for all the entropical fish in our koi ponds out here! ;-) x
Thank you for posting other individuals who have DID. I feel the more other people know about DID the more society benefits. As they say knowledge is power.
It’s so good to see more systems talking about D.I.D and what they have gone through as a system. Everyone take care of yourself and treat yourself. Can’t wait for the day there is a part three! Thanks and Smilies!
I didn't know that being diagnosed with just fragmented parts was a thing! I definitely have headmates, but I don't fit the criteria for DID, and I'm not sure about DDNOS/OSDD (though I definitely am at the very least closest to OSDD-1b). I'm going to start focusing on my parts with my therapist, and maybe we can look at all the dissociative disorders. It's great to hear from systems all around the world!
there is actually a diagnosis which is "has definitely a dissociative disorder, but doesn't quite fit the criteria of any specified dissociative disorder". I think it was part of OSDD! Though I could be wrong, I just read about it in a german article and in germany we don't have OSDD (it's called different).
Camille here, Singlet from Quebec, Canada. My love to everyone in this video and every alters of their system, and all others with DID. You deserve love. You deserve to be understood. You are all valid.
Camille Comeau ... your comment gives us hope. We finally came out as a system to friends and nobody could accept it. We only had a few friends but now have none here in our community. We hope someday to find a friend who is accepting
@@Cardboardman5150 Hello :) If you want friends to talk to, I'm part of many communities of systems and singlet allies, both on facebook and Discord. Contact me if you want to join any. Also, we can chat if you want. I'll be glad to make new friends also :) (Sorry for the delai before my reply. I didn't notice that the notification ;) )
This condition made me think of an partly assembled puzzle, each piece a memory, some pieces are already assembled and you can see more of the picture and some may even be missing, but every piece, as different as they may look and as many as there may be, is an integral part of the whole picture.
Thank you for including systems born male in this video bc it has been difficult to find representation of that when researching this disorder for my husband. Almost all of the systems I found were born female which is harder for my husband to relate to.
Thank you for being here, both in the video and simply sharing this world with us; you make it a better place by existing. I wish all of you happiness, safety and acceptance; each of you in each of your systems deserves it. It is your right. Annie, you are a wonderful person. Those were very wise words.
What a positive video in such troubled times, both in the community and globally. Big kudos to the systems who put themselves out there despite the turmoil. Your stories will make a difference to people who see them.
So on the original video someone posted a link to some other male body systems. I didn't have time to check them out at the time and meant to go back to it later but now I can't access that comment section so whoever posted that could you please send us that link again. I've seen so many comments asking if only females developed DID or if it was more common in females and I think males just aren't as open about this type of stuff cause stereotypes of men don't allow us to be vulnerable like that. I think it's important for people to see that yes male body systems exist too it's not just females. So please share those links.
We're currently opening this new channel (Infinity System) specifically to address male body system issues with DID, as well as older system issues. We should start posting content soon!
Thank each and every one of you! You are all inspirations! We are just beginning our journey at 50 and finding help in my area that "believes" in us has been impossible so far. Our physician believe us but even she can't find anyone locally that can help.
Thank you so much, Wyn and the Entropy System, for uploading this video! It's so heartwarming to see different systems of the world of different ages, nationalities and circumstance come together and share their experiences
This is the coolest video I’ve seen on DID. Amazing explanation as to how the different systems feel. And each system is so strong and resilient. Thank you for making this.
Thank you to all of these wonderful systems for sharing your experience with us. You are very brave and strong. Always remember "you are loved, you are valuable and you are valid".
Thank you to all the systems for making this video! It's really wonderful seeing the variety and diversity of systems, and especially "older" systems (body-age, wise), since it seems like most systems that are open with having DID/OSDD trend younger (which makes sense given greater societal openness, greater access to resources on dissociation/mental health, etc!). I also really resonated w/ what the Kairos system said re: being really proud of coming together as a system to be safe and grow. I'm really ashamed of it but there were times when I put my system at risk of danger because I didn't agree a situation/relationship was unsafe. Listening to each other and making an effort to be more open has been so, so freeing for us, and has led us to a place where we are more connected and able to heal than ever :) -Bunny and the Flock
Every single person in this video "Our goal is functional multiplicity." Psychiatrists and therapists, "You need to integrate." Even the two systems who would be open to fusion happening either far in the future or naturally, "Our goal is functional multiplicity." Psychiatrists and therapists, "What's that?" Final message: the social theory of disability: please change on the behalf of society so we don't have to think outside of the box or feel uncomfortable in any way with how you are and present as a human. Final final message: BE A PROUD SYSTEM!
I LOVED this!!! I struggled and have struggled since I found out about my DID, but it has been your videos @TheEntropySystem that has made me come a long way in accepting us. Thank you for all you put into this!!! And thank you everyone else for being brave enough to tell your story!!! ❤️
Hi Entropy! We have DID too, although my counsellor wondered if we have OSDD. I'm not sure the difference. We are happy to watch your videos and we have a huge passion for helping people to understand DID and help other systems too because we know how hard it can be! We are not brave enough to do our own CZcams videos though, but we still really want to be part of the community. We are called The Collective System. Xx
This is fantastic! Right now I'm the only one I know with DID. I've been struggling with it, but now I've found this CZcams community and I'm so glad to have found a place to connect and I can't wait for the conference!!!!
Aw brilliant video! Thanks for making this Entropy System and to all those who shared. It’s beautiful to see so many being brave and sharing and being positive about living with Dissociative Identity Disorder. This was comforting to us. And is also beautiful to see some positive focus moving forward in the community. Thanks💖
thank you all!! I am here to learn. I am a male friend of a female with DID.We actually met as couples and hung out for like 15 years or so. She got divorced then like 10 years later I did. My ex which was her friend just didn't want to, or really wasn't capable of dealing with it. I when we were married found out and tried to read up and learn what I could. well we went our separate ways but have alwasy text and stuff . recently we started talking alot more and got together a couple of times. she knew that I already knew so that took the stress away. She has been really good at letting me ask questions. just recently she started using we and us, I knew how significant that was for her. All I can do is try, everyone needs a friend. I do have to be careful because a couple in her system are quite friendly. I don't want to go there. She will text me and ask to hang out and when I tell her I can't her text get really short lol I laugh with her but someone either doesn't like me for that or someone is Shutting her system out on me. I do get worried that I am doing the wrong thing here . I have always tried to be up front and honest. I am just recently divorced and I am not wanting anything more than a friend at this point. I just have a hard time believing that a friend who is willing to try to understand her system could be negative for her .
Wow. That was so beautiful. I have tears in my eyes with the outstanding beauty. The love speach by Annie at the end is one of the most important and ... beautiful things I've ever heard. My heart is singing!
Hi Entropy System, I hope I’m not overstepping here (genuine apologies if so) but as part of your Mental Health In The Media I would love to see a look into the kids movie Drop Dead Fred. It was a favourite of mine in childhood and although it doesn’t discuss DID specifically (or MPD, since it’s the early 90s), it appears to me that it takes a LOT of aspects of DID such as repeated childhood trauma, lost time, dormancy, integration, fusion, age sliding and combines it with aspects of other disorders such as BPD (eg unstable and impulsive behaviour) and schizophrenia (eg hallucinations). I’m not asking necessarily for a rating ofhow the film deals with DID (since nominally it doesn’t), but rather a similar review to your Sanders Sides video, exploring the effect of relating mental health to fantasy and the ultimate fate of the main characters
Thanks for making your videos. I’m dealing with what I believe to be DID and I don’t currently have anyone in my life who validated the experience in a way that allows me to feel safe expressing what I go through. All I have is my myself and weve spent so much of our life hiding our dissociation. To expose it feels wrong and dangerous. Seeing others with similar experience helps. Thank you.
Hey everyone, I’m from Germany and was wondering if there were any systems out here. Thank you Anne to represent Germany in a way. Lots of love to the systems of Germany and of course to everyone else. I’m not a system, but I care about your community.
Not necessarily a system but I'm from Germany and have recently started seeing a therapist for heavy dissociation, depersonalisation/derealisation and amnesia. I don't know where this road will take me and whether or not it turns out that those symptoms are linked to DID but yeah. Let's see. :)
Hi to wyynn I'm a pizza delivery driver I got a delivery for somebody named wynn thought about you and I think you're awesome and you're doing really good work and I appreciate you
I don't understand why you dont have more subscribers? Thanks for this video and all the people included in this video. Also for putting the effort to solve the flag issue (though i don't think it was necessary?). I haven't found anyone else with DID in Indonesia but this one woman that i watched on tv. Many many people here still believe it's possession though. It's very sad. I wish i could spread more awareness, especially on childhood trauma which is the cause of DID and how it's gonna affect victims when they grow up. Maybe in the future when people are more open minded.
I'm from Germany too and atm I have to deal with doctors who just don't wanna believe, that DID/OSDD exist. That's why I would like to get in contact with Anne from the video. Do you @TheEntropySystem know how?
If any of the systems have a CZcams page I would love to follow and support! Can someone link them to me if this is ok? I don’t have instagram or twitter so can’t follow anyone there
If you look through the other comments, you'll see that at least a couple of the systems posted thanks regarding being on the video. I do think it's remiss for there to be no links in the description box for the systems which are featured in the video, but there to be links to merch and patreon there. (Which means they took the time to add links, but just not for the other systems.).
Really wonderful video. We would love to know if any of the systems here have CZcams or podcasts. We want to know if the neverland system has a social media platform. Their body age is close to ours and it is really grounding and helpful for us to see others our age who a have DID.
They explained it on their other social medias! Here's it simplified basically Apparently one of the cameras was showing a, now considered, hate-flag in the background; although that is not it's original purpose or meaning, it triggered a lot of people and somewhere in this video they'll explain what the flag means while in the earlier video it did not explain. I was not even aware and can still not point out which flag it is without watching it again, so I think it went over a lot of people's heads.
@Elisa Castro Right, I'm just saying what Wyn said on their Instagram as I'm not American and don't know anything about their history. Hopefully you can educate better than me.
@@james.6933 That particular flag has been used by hate groups. The flag itself is no more to blame than the swastika, which was a... Hindu? symbol for the circle of existence, much like the Yin/Yang symbol. All innocent in and of themselves (keep in mind the separated snake or "don't tread" flag is Revolutionary war era) but taken far out of their context. Understandable why ES chose to be sensitive.
@@TheInfinitySystem Yes precisely. I think ES made the right choice in putting this edited video up to keep the sensitive political explanation of it in the final cut. :)
Great video. I loved seeing older systems since I normally only see younger DID focused CZcams channels. If anyone knows of any Black or Caribbean DID focused CZcams channels please let me know, I’m interested in the experiences of systems navigating in different cultures.
*family trigger* our host’s barriers broke last week after few years of few of us semi interacting with him, we both are concerned that doctors wouldn’t believe us, the body’s mother said people who treated us before said no one should believe us until we’re diagnosed with bpd and them opening up about knowing about us (other alters) and she also said that no one will treat us if we don’t want to “fix” it. I think she means getting better means fixing it, we understand it’s hard to believe you child gone through this, and understand that she inflicted stress (not knowingly) on this body since childhood, it’s probably devastating for her and her “trauma” of dealing with our complicity that was really hard on her too. idk if she can understand i’m feeling for her but also expecting her to take responsibility of how she treats us. help? someone? we feel so lonely in this journey. few friends has shown us love only but some wanted a break and we’re terrified of living in secret since we came out as trans.. it was really hard for us and now it’s even harder I think. -Shawn
so I dont really know how my mind works I know that none of the parts of me are adult even though the body is 33 my oldest part is 12 and the other runs 1-4 years its really scary and I wish I had a big to protect us my wife use to do that but she left a little over a year ago
Hello, Entropy! I noticed only three non-Americans. All of them live in Western Europe. Didn't You find any systems from Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa or southern hemisphere?
Hey I saw "The Many" system was from Brussels, does someone know if there is a Belgian DID/OSDD comunity, forums, Facebook groups ? I would Love to feel more part a comunity and share experiences with other and maybe even create frendship :)
I hope you don't consider this very silly, it's just that I am fascinated by language. I wonder about your vocabulary, such as switching, losing time, alters and many other words. Did you use them before or was it your therapists who taught them to you. Before you knew you had DID did you have words for the things that happened to you? Where they very different? Comparing your system to others, was it very different language-wise? I'm not a linguist but maybe I should be! :D. Thanks for your answer.
Is it true that you cant have fully formed alters until you are in your twenties to thirties? If so what is the definition of "fully formed" and can those alters take the "front" when you are a teen? I suspect I might have DID according to my symptoms and I even was able to talk to one of my alters once. We talk every now and then. However, somebody told me I am faking because i am not 20 yet. Can someone please explain this? I'm in my late teens (about to be an adult now) and people still just dismiss my concerns and call me an "attention seeking teenager" and they say I can't even have alters at my age but I thought it was developed in childhood?
No I really think that’s just misinformation being spread by people who don’t understand the disorder. Every me ever of a system is an alter, if fully formed alters didn’t exist till 20, the host would not be “fully formed” either. Though fragmented alters exist and can exist at any age
Hi guys thanks for the video can someone explain what I can expect when being assessed for DID I have this coming up when out of lockdown an rather anxious about it
Yeah, apparently one of the cameras was showing a, now considered, hate-flag in the background; although that is not it's original purpose or meaning, it triggered a lot of people and somewhere in this video they'll explain what the flag means while in the earlier video it did not explain. I was not even aware and can still not point out which flag it is without watching it again, so I think it went over a lot of people's heads.
Amy Pearsall Yeah, there was a flag which has a double meaning in the background and Wyn was unaware of the recent change in meaning being hateful and accidentally cut out the part where the person with the flag said they were libertarian because she thought politics might be triggering, but the flag without proper context ended up being more triggering
I have a feeling someone very close to me might have DID and so I have two questions that I'd love answers to if you'd like to, maybe it could be good video content? 1. Would you choose to not know about it if you could, and why? 2. If you do recommend knowing, how would you recommend I go about finding out whether she has it or not?
@@Ellipseification Hey Bunny and the flock. Thank you so much for making time to respond to my comment! That sounds like a great way to start 🙏🏾 much love 🌷
Hello everyone in the entropy system,, i have a few personal question about me and my partner who have D. I. D,, so,, i wanted to ask you all in private,, maybe we can discuss about it more in private,, Hope to hear from you soon everyone,, stay safe everybody,, much love for you guys all the way from Malaysia
What happened to the first one? I watched it, but I didn't finish it. So I went back to watch it, and it said it was private. I was so confused and I wondered where it went. - Kayleigh from The Rain System
Apparently one of the cameras was showing a, now considered, hate-flag in the background; although that is not it's original purpose or meaning, it triggered a lot of people and somewhere in this video they'll explain what the flag means while in the earlier video it did not explain. I was not even aware and can still not point out which flag it is without watching it again, so I think it went over a lot of people's heads.
@@pinkhaven5912 they asked the system with that flag in their background to refilm and then uploaded the new version. There was a discussion on twitter, mostly deleted now to minimize potentially triggering political stuff there
@@pinkhaven5912 I have a very low attentionspan so I really won't make it through the entire video without spacing out, I do think they said on their Twitter and Instagram Story that they were going to put in a segment of the person fronting explaining what the flag means. Originally they were afraid it would become too political and decided to keep it out, however it turned out cutting that part out seemed to be more triggering than keeping the explanation in.
@@james.6933 Oh ok. I mean, I have a low attention span too. Which is why I just gave up. I was gonna sit through, but Alex was telling me there was no point and to just click off. - Kayleigh
@@TheEntropySystem ohhh ok, i dont have any money to be a patron at the moment, and i only just found your channel. I just wanted to find a inexpensive way to determine if im just extremely forgetful and have bad adhd problems or if i may have D.I.D.
I am here to learn about DID because i am a big sceptic, im here to challenge myself and others. Based on what i have researched and have seen/heard from people that claim to have DID, they create these alternative egos/personalities/characters in order to cope with a server trauma. These egos that are created are not real people they are your thoughts and your creation, it is not healthy to live with these alter egos because you have not healed from your trauma and the trauma affects you today, otherwise you would not need the alter egos.... lets talk
??? Bro no need to be hostile. They let the community vote on how the issue should be tackled n went w the will of the majority. They were in support of leaving it up bc they're literally a veteran n understand the historic meaning. If you mad blame the people who voted not Entropy. N calling them liars based off tht? Wtf man... Ik they're just a face on a camera to you but these are real people. Sum decency would be nice.
Removing the symbol from the video sends the clear message that certain types of expression ARE unwelcome. Which is fine, it's just irritating that you all pretend that everyone is welcome when they're clearly not. And I'm a woman, btw, so if you called me "dude", "man" and "bro" because you assumed I'm a guy, then you failed to not be prejudiced. If it was a non gender specific dudebro then disregard.
@@whitemageFFXI I don't have much to add to this discussion, but I would like to contextualize that the DID community--especically CZcams activists--have been under a lot of scrutiny by people outside of the community, due to the actions of some select systems. This has lead to systems being harassed ad nauseam for the smallest things. I'm not bring this up to elicit any kind of sympathy--but you must understand that had this occured in a different social climate than the one people with DID are currently facing, The Entropy System may have had a different reaction. Or perhaps not. My point here is that it was a lose-lose situation for them. I personally wouldn't attribute this decision as a sign of their overall character. That's not to say that I personally condemn or condone their decision. But it's important to understand the complexities of the issue. As to the gendered language-- I cant speak to the assumed gender had towards you, but I apologise for the false application. I know that type of language is commonplace from the individual who left the comment regardless of who is being addressed, but I don't know if the choice to use that language in the moment was influenced or based off prejudice. I sincerely apologise for the inappropriate usage of the language, and the false attribution insinuated towards you.
@@whitemageFFXI The Entropy system has never claimed that everyone is welcome to share what they want on their channel. Pretty sure they're not going to be giving platforms to white supremacists or DID deniers so stop trying to push your assumptions onto them.
The fact that Annie believes everyone, even bad people, are deserving of love is just the most pure thing I've ever seen. Especially from someone living with a trauma based disorder, that mentality is just beautiful beyond words.
The fact that the therapist said that a patient is "probably just possessed by demons" just wow
I wanna write their therapist a very strongly worded letter. (Kidding but not.) Like wtf.
I don't know what's worse: that the therapist is ignorant enough to call alters 'demons' or that they think having demons in your head isn't a big deal.
That's so unprofessional and ignorant
One of our favorite teachers once said that DID/OSDD are just demon possessions, but, we go to a Christian school and hearing too little info about DID/OSDD can make people jump to conclusions, and she’s a science teacher, so if she ever gives us a project to do about mental health, we’re gonna take that opportunity to teach her about why DID/OSDD exists
~Grey
Teachers all know this is nonsense because they are adults. This is typical young people acting out. Has any of you been officially diagnosed by a doctor?
For those of you confused as to why this was reuploaded, the original video was taken down because one of the systems had the Gadsden flag (the yellow one with the snake that says "Dont tread on me") hanging up in the background. The flag has been used in association with groups such as the tea party and white nationalists, so some people expressed their discomfort in seeing the flag because of its negative associations. Entropy had them refilm their section without the flag visible and reuploaded it! Hope that clears things up :) *(Edit: I didn't mean to imply that white nationalists and the tea party are the same thing, I know they often aren't. I was just saying that some members of the community may be very triggered by the symbol and so it was taken down.)*
@Katherine Petersen Thank you for the explanation :)
It's a shame that people like that (white nationalists) exist.
@Elisa Castro Respectfully, I agree that the flag in and of itself is just a symbol- like the swastika. Both have been taken far out of their original context and used by organizations that PROMOTE racism and hate speech, ect. Whether it's used by the tea party or white nationalists or the differences between the two groups is beside the point. The point IS that, like numerous other symbols with innocent meanings initially, it has been used as a rally point/focus for those with fringe tendencies. It could be flown by the Basket Weavers and Lolipop Makers Against All Humanity members and be offensive. It's not the symbol itself or its origins, it is the purpose to which it's currently put and whether it is offensive to some. As a content creator and positive image channel, ES was well within its purview to ask the system in question to re-film and as such showed their responsibility to their viewers as a WHOLE. We would do the same.
I'm highly disappointed the video had to be re-uploaded because of that. I see another flag that is just as offensive to a certain group of people and most of us would never dream of catering to that ignorance. And we shouldn't... just as we shouldn't have to cater to this other group of ignorantly offended people.
Isn't it a Marine motto? But...thanks for the explanation. Ppl seriously need to chill on this cultural appropriation over sensitivity stuff. I mean...that dude is from my generation (my body age 41) and I know it from tattoos and it being associated with the military ONLY at one time. Whoever used a respected image of our military to denote hate...welll....we can't be stressed by that. It's just sad.
Don’t have DID but, take great comfort watching people thrive within their support systems. We all need to connect to live. I’m appreciative to be allowed to witness your community and see the strength you are able to give each other. Thanks to the internet we can learn from you. Thank you.
Honored to have been apart of such a unifying community experience n to have gotten the chance to share our story. Thank you to Entropy for giving us the opportunity n to the community for continuing to create a safe and understanding environment. We're stronger together ♥️ -Leo
Absolutely awful to hear your recentish therapist confrontation. Your system is not a possession of demons. Sending The Kairos System lots of love.
@@Christine_990 Thank you ♥️🙏
0:43 that makes me feel so valid. people telling me that "oh, you're a minor, minors can't have DID" was so soul crushing and having someone say that they found out they had DID around 15 made us feel valid.
Yes! Just because it’s rarer to be diagnosed so young doesn’t mean it’s impossible or that it doesn’t happen!! We were diagnosed when we were 18 but started noticing signs around 13-14. For the first few years therapy was just torture because no one believed us or even believed in DID in general. It took 2.5 years of bumping from therapist to doctor to specialist… I think we saw almost 30 different professionals before finally meeting the one who finallllly helped us. We worked with her for just over a year before getting our diagnoses.. and then another 8 years after that before she retired. We have been struggling since then to find another that we liked so much. We tried a few different people but no one we clicked with and we haven’t been going since sadly. 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for this video. And thank you to the Neverland system for taking the time to re-record, that was kind, and it's good to see you included.
To Leo and the Kairos system, I'm so sorry for your experience with an obviously very bad therapist, in what should have been a safe environment. To tell a client they are possessed by demons is, to say the least, against the code of ethics of the NASW and APA. I'm very sorry that happened, but glad you discovered her extreme ignorance early on.
No DID or OSDD just an ally with a psychology undergraduate degree here. Hope you are feeling loved valid and valuable: and that you enjoyed making this video for all the entropical fish in our koi ponds out here! ;-) x
Thank you for posting other individuals who have DID. I feel the more other people know about DID the more society benefits. As they say knowledge is power.
I love these videos we get to learn about more systems. It makes me happy knowing we are not alone.
And again...great video and an extra "hallo" to the german speaking ones 😊👍🤗
It’s so good to see more systems talking about D.I.D and what they have gone through as a system. Everyone take care of yourself and treat yourself. Can’t wait for the day there is a part three! Thanks and Smilies!
Be careful to not judge others too harshly because we may not know what they have been through in their lives.
I didn't know that being diagnosed with just fragmented parts was a thing! I definitely have headmates, but I don't fit the criteria for DID, and I'm not sure about DDNOS/OSDD (though I definitely am at the very least closest to OSDD-1b). I'm going to start focusing on my parts with my therapist, and maybe we can look at all the dissociative disorders. It's great to hear from systems all around the world!
there is actually a diagnosis which is "has definitely a dissociative disorder, but doesn't quite fit the criteria of any specified dissociative disorder". I think it was part of OSDD! Though I could be wrong, I just read about it in a german article and in germany we don't have OSDD (it's called different).
Hope everything went well!
Was that Daniel at the end of the video? We're like... 90% sure that was him.
It was :)
Camille here, Singlet from Quebec, Canada. My love to everyone in this video and every alters of their system, and all others with DID. You deserve love. You deserve to be understood. You are all valid.
Camille Comeau ... your comment gives us hope. We finally came out as a system to friends and nobody could accept it. We only had a few friends but now have none here in our community. We hope someday to find a friend who is accepting
@@Cardboardman5150 Hello :) If you want friends to talk to, I'm part of many communities of systems and singlet allies, both on facebook and Discord. Contact me if you want to join any. Also, we can chat if you want. I'll be glad to make new friends also :) (Sorry for the delai before my reply. I didn't notice that the notification ;) )
Thank you for telling people this. So many of us who have been taught to hide how we feel are struggling to feel like we deserve to be here!!! ❤
@@rattlesthecrewmate You all deserve to be here. And no one should have to hide who they are (as long as it's legal).
Its so great to see so many different systems.
This condition made me think of an partly assembled puzzle, each piece a memory, some pieces are already assembled and you can see more of the picture and some may even be missing, but every piece, as different as they may look and as many as there may be, is an integral part of the whole picture.
Thank you for including systems born male in this video bc it has been difficult to find representation of that when researching this disorder for my husband. Almost all of the systems I found were born female which is harder for my husband to relate to.
It's really cool to see this collaboration! Thanks for bringing in so many voices from so many places.
AlsoTheManyishandsomewaitwhatIdidn'tsayanything
Thank you for being here, both in the video and simply sharing this world with us; you make it a better place by existing. I wish all of you happiness, safety and acceptance; each of you in each of your systems deserves it. It is your right.
Annie, you are a wonderful person. Those were very wise words.
Still think that what Annie says is 100% truth. She is SO precious!
It makes you think. These people are pretty dang normal to me. Makes you think how many of us are out there
Thank you to Entropy and the Neverland system for taking into the consideration the comfort and safety of their fans. Y’all are awesome!
We’ll said everyone! Everyone deserves love, acceptance, validity & safety. ❤❤❤
What a positive video in such troubled times, both in the community and globally. Big kudos to the systems who put themselves out there despite the turmoil. Your stories will make a difference to people who see them.
I found this really touching..the messages at the end, about loving every part, beautiful.
So on the original video someone posted a link to some other male body systems. I didn't have time to check them out at the time and meant to go back to it later but now I can't access that comment section so whoever posted that could you please send us that link again.
I've seen so many comments asking if only females developed DID or if it was more common in females and I think males just aren't as open about this type of stuff cause stereotypes of men don't allow us to be vulnerable like that. I think it's important for people to see that yes male body systems exist too it's not just females. So please share those links.
We're currently opening this new channel (Infinity System) specifically to address male body system issues with DID, as well as older system issues. We should start posting content soon!
DJC is a system which has a male body.
Thank each and every one of you! You are all inspirations! We are just beginning our journey at 50 and finding help in my area that "believes" in us has been impossible so far. Our physician believe us but even she can't find anyone locally that can help.
Thank you so much, Wyn and the Entropy System, for uploading this video! It's so heartwarming to see different systems of the world of different ages, nationalities and circumstance come together and share their experiences
This is the coolest video I’ve seen on DID. Amazing explanation as to how the different systems feel. And each system is so strong and resilient. Thank you for making this.
Thank you to all of these wonderful systems for sharing your experience with us. You are very brave and strong.
Always remember "you are loved, you are valuable and you are valid".
Thank you to all the systems for making this video! It's really wonderful seeing the variety and diversity of systems, and especially "older" systems (body-age, wise), since it seems like most systems that are open with having DID/OSDD trend younger (which makes sense given greater societal openness, greater access to resources on dissociation/mental health, etc!). I also really resonated w/ what the Kairos system said re: being really proud of coming together as a system to be safe and grow. I'm really ashamed of it but there were times when I put my system at risk of danger because I didn't agree a situation/relationship was unsafe. Listening to each other and making an effort to be more open has been so, so freeing for us, and has led us to a place where we are more connected and able to heal than ever :)
-Bunny and the Flock
Every single person in this video "Our goal is functional multiplicity." Psychiatrists and therapists, "You need to integrate." Even the two systems who would be open to fusion happening either far in the future or naturally, "Our goal is functional multiplicity." Psychiatrists and therapists, "What's that?" Final message: the social theory of disability: please change on the behalf of society so we don't have to think outside of the box or feel uncomfortable in any way with how you are and present as a human. Final final message: BE A PROUD SYSTEM!
I hope everyone is ok and taking care of yourselves.
I LOVED this!!! I struggled and have struggled since I found out about my DID, but it has been your videos @TheEntropySystem that has made me come a long way in accepting us. Thank you for all you put into this!!! And thank you everyone else for being brave enough to tell your story!!! ❤️
Hi Entropy! We have DID too, although my counsellor wondered if we have OSDD. I'm not sure the difference. We are happy to watch your videos and we have a huge passion for helping people to understand DID and help other systems too because we know how hard it can be! We are not brave enough to do our own CZcams videos though, but we still really want to be part of the community. We are called The Collective System. Xx
This is fantastic! Right now I'm the only one I know with DID. I've been struggling with it, but now I've found this CZcams community and I'm so glad to have found a place to connect and I can't wait for the conference!!!!
Aw brilliant video! Thanks for making this Entropy System and to all those who shared. It’s beautiful to see so many being brave and sharing and being positive about living with Dissociative Identity Disorder. This was comforting to us. And is also beautiful to see some positive focus moving forward in the community. Thanks💖
I wondered where this video went...
Nice to see it back again 😀
I am a System as well... Thank you soo much for your brave, open Interviews. 😊 👌
thank you all!! I am here to learn. I am a male friend of a female with DID.We actually met as couples and hung out for like 15 years or so. She got divorced then like 10 years later I did. My ex which was her friend just didn't want to, or really wasn't capable of dealing with it. I when we were married found out and tried to read up and learn what I could. well we went our separate ways but have alwasy text and stuff . recently we started talking alot more and got together a couple of times. she knew that I already knew so that took the stress away. She has been really good at letting me ask questions. just recently she started using we and us, I knew how significant that was for her. All I can do is try, everyone needs a friend. I do have to be careful because a couple in her system are quite friendly. I don't want to go there. She will text me and ask to hang out and when I tell her I can't her text get really short lol I laugh with her but someone either doesn't like me for that or someone is Shutting her system out on me. I do get worried that I am doing the wrong thing here . I have always tried to be up front and honest. I am just recently divorced and I am not wanting anything more than a friend at this point. I just have a hard time believing that a friend who is willing to try to understand her system could be negative for her .
Also, I love Annie's message at the end is such a beautiful and perfect way to end this video.
Wow. That was so beautiful. I have tears in my eyes with the outstanding beauty.
The love speach by Annie at the end is one of the most important and ... beautiful things I've ever heard.
My heart is singing!
Hi Entropy System, I hope I’m not overstepping here (genuine apologies if so) but as part of your Mental Health In The Media I would love to see a look into the kids movie Drop Dead Fred. It was a favourite of mine in childhood and although it doesn’t discuss DID specifically (or MPD, since it’s the early 90s), it appears to me that it takes a LOT of aspects of DID such as repeated childhood trauma, lost time, dormancy, integration, fusion, age sliding and combines it with aspects of other disorders such as BPD (eg unstable and impulsive behaviour) and schizophrenia (eg hallucinations). I’m not asking necessarily for a rating ofhow the film deals with DID (since nominally it doesn’t), but rather a similar review to your Sanders Sides video, exploring the effect of relating mental health to fantasy and the ultimate fate of the main characters
Amazing! Beautiful! Flabbergasted at how Long this must've took to put together
Thanks for making your videos. I’m dealing with what I believe to be DID and I don’t currently have anyone in my life who validated the experience in a way that allows me to feel safe expressing what I go through. All I have is my myself and weve spent so much of our life hiding our dissociation. To expose it feels wrong and dangerous. Seeing others with similar experience helps. Thank you.
Glad to see the new and improved video back up again! Thanks for being considerate and taking the original down! We love you guys!!!
Hey everyone, I’m from Germany and was wondering if there were any systems out here. Thank you Anne to represent Germany in a way. Lots of love to the systems of Germany and of course to everyone else. I’m not a system, but I care about your community.
Not necessarily a system but I'm from Germany and have recently started seeing a therapist for heavy dissociation, depersonalisation/derealisation and amnesia. I don't know where this road will take me and whether or not it turns out that those symptoms are linked to DID but yeah. Let's see. :)
We're a system from Germany😊 hi
Hi to wyynn I'm a pizza delivery driver I got a delivery for somebody named wynn thought about you and I think you're awesome and you're doing really good work and I appreciate you
I don't understand why you dont have more subscribers?
Thanks for this video and all the people included in this video. Also for putting the effort to solve the flag issue (though i don't think it was necessary?).
I haven't found anyone else with DID in Indonesia but this one woman that i watched on tv. Many many people here still believe it's possession though. It's very sad. I wish i could spread more awareness, especially on childhood trauma which is the cause of DID and how it's gonna affect victims when they grow up. Maybe in the future when people are more open minded.
I'm from Germany too and atm I have to deal with doctors who just don't wanna believe, that DID/OSDD exist. That's why I would like to get in contact with Anne from the video. Do you @TheEntropySystem know how?
GalaktikaLexi tarkari@web.de ;)
Germany too. 🤓
Lizzylonesome@web.de :) Falls jmd connecten möchte
If any of the systems have a CZcams page I would love to follow and support! Can someone link them to me if this is ok? I don’t have instagram or twitter so can’t follow anyone there
If you look through the other comments, you'll see that at least a couple of the systems posted thanks regarding being on the video. I do think it's remiss for there to be no links in the description box for the systems which are featured in the video, but there to be links to merch and patreon there. (Which means they took the time to add links, but just not for the other systems.).
This is awesome so happy you did this with all that has gone on giving a good place for more ppl to feel safe im part of a system The Joy System
Really wonderful video. We would love to know if any of the systems here have CZcams or podcasts. We want to know if the neverland system has a social media platform. Their body age is close to ours and it is really grounding and helpful for us to see others our age who a have DID.
I really needed to see this. Thanks so much for compiling this 🙏
It's back! We don't know where it went or why, but at least now we can watch it!
They explained it on their other social medias! Here's it simplified basically
Apparently one of the cameras was showing a, now considered, hate-flag in the background; although that is not it's original purpose or meaning, it triggered a lot of people and somewhere in this video they'll explain what the flag means while in the earlier video it did not explain.
I was not even aware and can still not point out which flag it is without watching it again, so I think it went over a lot of people's heads.
@Elisa Castro Right, I'm just saying what Wyn said on their Instagram as I'm not American and don't know anything about their history. Hopefully you can educate better than me.
@@james.6933 That particular flag has been used by hate groups. The flag itself is no more to blame than the swastika, which was a... Hindu? symbol for the circle of existence, much like the Yin/Yang symbol. All innocent in and of themselves (keep in mind the separated snake or "don't tread" flag is Revolutionary war era) but taken far out of their context. Understandable why ES chose to be sensitive.
@@TheInfinitySystem Yes precisely. I think ES made the right choice in putting this edited video up to keep the sensitive political explanation of it in the final cut. :)
Great video. I loved seeing older systems since I normally only see younger DID focused CZcams channels. If anyone knows of any Black or Caribbean DID focused CZcams channels please let me know, I’m interested in the experiences of systems navigating in different cultures.
Suzy Carmichael check out the Long Soul system!
Princess Unicorn awesome thank you !
@@BrightestNightt Absolutely! ^.^ Also, I just found axolotls-in-a-trenchcoat, another diverse system!
@@BrightestNightt Oh, AND The Others, a system in a male body!
Amazing video thanks for sharing your experiences it means a lot 🐰
*family trigger*
our host’s barriers broke last week after few years of few of us semi interacting with him, we both are concerned that doctors wouldn’t believe us, the body’s mother said people who treated us before said no one should believe us until we’re diagnosed with bpd and them opening up about knowing about us (other alters) and she also said that no one will treat us if we don’t want to “fix” it. I think she means getting better means fixing it, we understand it’s hard to believe you child gone through this, and understand that she inflicted stress (not knowingly) on this body since childhood, it’s probably devastating for her and her “trauma” of dealing with our complicity that was really hard on her too. idk if she can understand i’m feeling for her but also expecting her to take responsibility of how she treats us. help? someone? we feel so lonely in this journey. few friends has shown us love only but some wanted a break and we’re terrified of living in secret since we came out as trans.. it was really hard for us and now it’s even harder I think. -Shawn
I’m writing this for both of us because Guy feels overwhelming doubt and remorse of the life before knowing atm
Annie spoke some facts there at the end.
Unrelated to the subject but Splatter System needs to drop their skin care routine
Holaa !!! un saludo desde España, me parece muy importante la visibilización de los sistemas, espero que sigan creando contenido y educando! besos
D- So awesome thank you for making these videos
so I dont really know how my mind works I know that none of the parts of me are adult even though the body is 33 my oldest part is 12 and the other runs 1-4 years its really scary and I wish I had a big to protect us my wife use to do that but she left a little over a year ago
Was starting to wonder if men could even get DID.
Oh my gosh. Over 300??
Hello, Entropy! I noticed only three non-Americans. All of them live in Western Europe. Didn't You find any systems from Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa or southern hemisphere?
Hey I saw "The Many" system was from Brussels, does someone know if there is a Belgian DID/OSDD comunity, forums, Facebook groups ? I would Love to feel more part a comunity and share experiences with other and maybe even create frendship :)
I hope you don't consider this very silly, it's just that I am fascinated by language. I wonder about your vocabulary, such as switching, losing time, alters and many other words. Did you use them before or was it your therapists who taught them to you. Before you knew you had DID did you have words for the things that happened to you? Where they very different? Comparing your system to others, was it very different language-wise? I'm not a linguist but maybe I should be! :D. Thanks for your answer.
Thins kind of makes a few of us feel like the "odd one out" but strangely in a validating kind of way.
Is it true that you cant have fully formed alters until you are in your twenties to thirties? If so what is the definition of "fully formed" and can those alters take the "front" when you are a teen?
I suspect I might have DID according to my symptoms and I even was able to talk to one of my alters once. We talk every now and then. However, somebody told me I am faking because i am not 20 yet. Can someone please explain this?
I'm in my late teens (about to be an adult now) and people still just dismiss my concerns and call me an "attention seeking teenager" and they say I can't even have alters at my age but I thought it was developed in childhood?
No I really think that’s just misinformation being spread by people who don’t understand the disorder. Every me ever of a system is an alter, if fully formed alters didn’t exist till 20, the host would not be “fully formed” either. Though fragmented alters exist and can exist at any age
Hi guys thanks for the video can someone explain what I can expect when being assessed for DID I have this coming up when out of lockdown an rather anxious about it
I watched this yesterday. Did they re-post it?
Yeah, apparently one of the cameras was showing a, now considered, hate-flag in the background; although that is not it's original purpose or meaning, it triggered a lot of people and somewhere in this video they'll explain what the flag means while in the earlier video it did not explain.
I was not even aware and can still not point out which flag it is without watching it again, so I think it went over a lot of people's heads.
Amy Pearsall
Yeah, there was a flag which has a double meaning in the background and Wyn was unaware of the recent change in meaning being hateful and accidentally cut out the part where the person with the flag said they were libertarian because she thought politics might be triggering, but the flag without proper context ended up being more triggering
I have a feeling someone very close to me might have DID and so I have two questions that I'd love answers to if you'd like to, maybe it could be good video content?
1. Would you choose to not know about it if you could, and why?
2. If you do recommend knowing, how would you recommend I go about finding out whether she has it or not?
@@Ellipseification Hey Bunny and the flock. Thank you so much for making time to respond to my comment! That sounds like a great way to start 🙏🏾 much love 🌷
@@CelineAdobea No problem!! Best wishes & blessings to you and your friend ✨
@@Ellipseification 💖
Why was this deleted before?
Hello everyone in the entropy system,, i have a few personal question about me and my partner who have D. I. D,, so,, i wanted to ask you all in private,, maybe we can discuss about it more in private,,
Hope to hear from you soon everyone,, stay safe everybody,, much love for you guys all the way from Malaysia
What happened to the first one? I watched it, but I didn't finish it. So I went back to watch it, and it said it was private. I was so confused and I wondered where it went. - Kayleigh from The Rain System
Apparently one of the cameras was showing a, now considered, hate-flag in the background; although that is not it's original purpose or meaning, it triggered a lot of people and somewhere in this video they'll explain what the flag means while in the earlier video it did not explain.
I was not even aware and can still not point out which flag it is without watching it again, so I think it went over a lot of people's heads.
@@james.6933 Did they take out that part of the video? Or is it still in the video?
@@pinkhaven5912 they asked the system with that flag in their background to refilm and then uploaded the new version. There was a discussion on twitter, mostly deleted now to minimize potentially triggering political stuff there
@@pinkhaven5912 I have a very low attentionspan so I really won't make it through the entire video without spacing out, I do think they said on their Twitter and Instagram Story that they were going to put in a segment of the person fronting explaining what the flag means. Originally they were afraid it would become too political and decided to keep it out, however it turned out cutting that part out seemed to be more triggering than keeping the explanation in.
@@james.6933 Oh ok. I mean, I have a low attention span too. Which is why I just gave up. I was gonna sit through, but Alex was telling me there was no point and to just click off. - Kayleigh
EntitleDID needs to update eventbrite.
I was wondering if you all still had a discord?
We have a discord for our $15 patrons :)
@@TheEntropySystem ohhh ok, i dont have any money to be a patron at the moment, and i only just found your channel. I just wanted to find a inexpensive way to determine if im just extremely forgetful and have bad adhd problems or if i may have D.I.D.
@@TheEntropySystem also thank you for replying to my comment
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I am here to learn about DID because i am a big sceptic, im here to challenge myself and others. Based on what i have researched and have seen/heard from people that claim to have DID, they create these alternative egos/personalities/characters in order to cope with a server trauma. These egos that are created are not real people they are your thoughts and your creation, it is not healthy to live with these alter egos because you have not healed from your trauma and the trauma affects you today, otherwise you would not need the alter egos.... lets talk
I would advise you to check the videos of DissociaDID. She explains everything quite well.
Oh no a flag, my biggest weakness o.0
Really? Changed because of the don't tread on me flag? You all are such liars when you claim to care about everyone.
??? Bro no need to be hostile. They let the community vote on how the issue should be tackled n went w the will of the majority. They were in support of leaving it up bc they're literally a veteran n understand the historic meaning. If you mad blame the people who voted not Entropy. N calling them liars based off tht? Wtf man...
Ik they're just a face on a camera to you but these are real people. Sum decency would be nice.
Dude... uncool.
Removing the symbol from the video sends the clear message that certain types of expression ARE unwelcome. Which is fine, it's just irritating that you all pretend that everyone is welcome when they're clearly not.
And I'm a woman, btw, so if you called me "dude", "man" and "bro" because you assumed I'm a guy, then you failed to not be prejudiced. If it was a non gender specific dudebro then disregard.
@@whitemageFFXI I don't have much to add to this discussion, but I would like to contextualize that the DID community--especically CZcams activists--have been under a lot of scrutiny by people outside of the community, due to the actions of some select systems. This has lead to systems being harassed ad nauseam for the smallest things.
I'm not bring this up to elicit any kind of sympathy--but you must understand that had this occured in a different social climate than the one people with DID are currently facing, The Entropy System may have had a different reaction. Or perhaps not.
My point here is that it was a lose-lose situation for them. I personally wouldn't attribute this decision as a sign of their overall character.
That's not to say that I personally condemn or condone their decision. But it's important to understand the complexities of the issue.
As to the gendered language-- I cant speak to the assumed gender had towards you, but I apologise for the false application. I know that type of language is commonplace from the individual who left the comment regardless of who is being addressed, but I don't know if the choice to use that language in the moment was influenced or based off prejudice.
I sincerely apologise for the inappropriate usage of the language, and the false attribution insinuated towards you.
@@whitemageFFXI The Entropy system has never claimed that everyone is welcome to share what they want on their channel. Pretty sure they're not going to be giving platforms to white supremacists or DID deniers so stop trying to push your assumptions onto them.
People who think this is real need the most help
Why was this deleted before?