Return of the Obra Dinn (Zero Punctuation)
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- čas přidán 6. 11. 2018
- This week Yahtzee reviews Return of the Obra Dinn.
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1:14 "felt like a game that was specifically made for me"
Lucas: "Fuck, he's on to me'.
*The KGB would like to know your location*
(strokes picture of Yahtzee ) one day . my love.
:d
That's not a bad marketing strategy actually...
"Mr Croshaw, could you please come with us? Mr. Pope would like to have a word with you."
@@Kaarl_Mills see, that shows far Russia has fallen since the Cold War. The KGB used to KNOW your location, now they outsourced it to facebook when we all know google and apple are the ones with all the real personal information.
Hey Yahtzee, you can actually identify the two ladies without guessing - one of them is registered as 'Miss' in the crew register. One of the two woman can be seen wearing a wedding ring, allowing you to figure out that she is the married one!
Ahhhhh! We deduced it by assuming the younger would be unmarried. But an assumption not a certainty.
@@jspiro it's set in 1883 or whatever. "Miss" is the younger/unmarried equal to "Mrs"
@@LegendLeaguer You are making alot of assumptions here m8/s
@@crimsonstrykr my bad, I was too generous without looking it up. The game's set in 1807.
@@LegendLeaguer No, I meant you are making alot of assumptions that the unmarried one is the most virginal /s
It's nice seeing a positive Zero Punctuation every once in a while.
A "positive punctuation" you could say
Exactly what I was thinking. You spend so much time seeing him spit on games and express his boredom that when you see a positive review, it feels really good. Like inspiring a good breath of fresh air.
Im actually slightly unnerved by a mostly happy Yahtzee. We haven't seen a mostly positive review since Undertale, and the combined total review of that game was less than 40 seconds.
You know it doesn't have to be all postive for him to like the game
good games come only once in a while, so it fits.
Oooooh, you had me at insurance investigator...
sub to pewdiepie
Profile picture checks out, carry on.
I love game's official tagline: "An Insurance Adventure with Minimal Colour"
Insurance Investigator is the least appreciated detective archetype. Not nearly as hard boiled, but just as capable of going to extreme lengths for the plot's contrivance.
don't joke the joke
I admit, I love the music. Especially the Soldiers of the Sea track. That bell-sounding upbeat jangle combined with the "what in the fresh spider-crabbing hell is that?!?!" reaction was just...
It's SO great
I learned today that the bell sounding thing is called a carillon. It's like a set of church bells hooked up to a keyboard. Rob Scallon has a nice video talking about them. Sadly it wasn't a set of tubular bells like I thought it was
@@amyshaw893 Is that the cave stalactites video?
@@joesretrostuff no its the carillon video
That is my favorite as well.
Just finished Return of the Obra Dinn, and I can 100% say "makes me feel clever" is an accurate description.
I played it tried my best got 12 fates, suffice it to say “Made me feel very dumb” is an accurate description
The best part about Lucas Pope is Googling him to see that, yes, he looks EXACTLY like the kind of chap who would make engaging paperwork simulators.
So Pope managed to strike Papers, Please gold again? I'll make sure to check it out.
Not again, he surpassed it for the first time, on his first try.
I wouldn't really say he "struck gold". Making a game Yahtzee would like requires skill and creativity. Whether the game sells good or not, on the other hand, is more down to chance.
@@99sonder I meant gold as in the game is golden, not financial success (although I certainly hope he find that too).
@@maddie9602 Yeah, I get what you mean. It's just that "struck gold" usually implies luck is involved.
@@99sonder That's fair
I just finished this game, and holy shit he's right, I'm melancholic that I can't play it again.
This is me, now. I got two sort of play it 1.5 times because I gave up for a year after the first play through at 30 fates. Playing it again I was dedicated and still got to mostly re experience it.
@@teipeu9033 It looks like you were ignored. That's kinda annoying.
I played it again recently with my brother, having played it already when it first came out, and I’m happy to report I’d forgotten enough of the details for it to still be very fun a second time round.
Yes. I remember consulting the crew's drawing repeatedly and always seeing how they died put me in quite the melancholic mood.
I highly recommend Case of the Golden Idol if you haven't played it! It's like Return of the Obra Dinn if each memory were its own separate case you have to solve.
"I'm suffering from a bad case of not there" is an absolutely brilliant thing to say when phoning in sick
I personally LOVED the music track. Though I did hate having to wait so long always when unlocking a new moment in time. A good 8 hours spent!
I know Lucas Pope doesn't seem like a fan of sequels but god damn would I love a whole series of games playing as this inspector. Or even just different inspectors/detectives/PIs in different scenarios solving crimes and mysteries with this gameplay
Oh yeah. Its a huge market. People loved this game, I wonder why there arent more?
Maybe it's hard to make this much unique and interesting content? These introspective games you'd look at the game from every angle. It doesn't seem exciting or easy from the outside.
Yeah just modify it into an isolated mansion in an island or a train stuck in the snow or whatever and I will be buying all of these sequels..
Major spoilers: I really wish there was more to the story. The monkey's paw at the end is an obvious hint at the richer depth of the doctor's character. But we'll likely never know more...
This 100%. Another game like this in any other scenario... just YES.
Lucas spent so much time making the graphics not literally grind your eyes to mush - he made a devblog about it and it is so much more difficult than it seems.
I loved Papers Please and, while this game doesn't interest me as much, I can still appreciate it for being an incredibly charming and unique piece of media.
2:35 actually one of them was wearing a wedding ring, so that helps with that
The chinese topmen can be discerned in the first part of Bitter Cold. The hammocks have their manifest numbers on them, and their legs are sticking out, with each one wearing slightly different socks.
Also sad I love the OST :(
I felt so clever when I figured out the socks that I rushed over here to comment about it.
This game is great.
Did he just recommend suffering head trauma so that one would be able to experince the game for the first time once more? Sold.
you've left this comment twice before now, are you okay
@@edfreak9001 I might have suffered some head trauma...
Hi there from the future, Yahtzee just named Return of the Obra Dinn his 3rd Best Game of the Decade
It earned it without doubt
For me its the best game I played so far
So what's his first and second?
Undertale and portal 2
Deserved. Absolutely. Worthy competition
I LOVED the music in particular
i agree. It complements the entire style and was not jarring in the slightest to me, but different people have different tastes so... It was like, part of the immersion for me, along with how in that first big spoiler-scene your avatar's hands shake, their breath quikens, and a lot of other, subtler sound effects, vfx, and most notably the score punctuate it like there's a possibly-overdramatic orchestra sitting under your seat. For some that is understandably ham-fisted or overdramatic, but I went in expecting a normal murder mystery with a neat mechanic and style, un-spoiler'd, and also for it to be dramatic in an almost cheesy way, just on reation to the first lines, the first scenes, all the details and acting that just went into the fuzzy feels of an exaggerated but brilliant theatarical production.
I have never felt more immersed in a video game than those fleeting seconds. Ever.
@@OutbackCatgirl The compositions were okay (although they sometimes didn't fit the mood of the events), but the arrangement+engineering was terrible. It's one of those cases where the author could've asked for a bit of help with the mix from someone who is good at it, and that would've made a world of difference, but as it is it just sounds like cheap 90s .mid files on Geocities websites with some very artificially sounding reverb on it.
@@gargaj Couldn't agree less. The music is fantastic, and it fit perfectly in the game for me.
Good for you :) It didn't ruin the experience for me, but to me it felt like the weakest part. Then again, my opinion hardly matters :)
@@gargaj What do you mean it didn't fit the mood
Watching people die is the best moment for a happy up beat music
Me at the start: What happened here?
*15 minutes later*
Me, seeing the huge Kraken thing: Well this is self-explanatory.
Cute. Thinking that the big Kraken explains anything on its own.
Followed by: Wait, it wasn’t JUST a kraken?
Followed by: wait, it wasn't JUST the kraken and spider-crab riders???
Well, no.
Spoilers incoming.
There's a kraken, crab people, and the mermaid attack, the bit where the captain forces them to call off the kraken, and why were they infighting at The End?
_Though I belted you and flayed you,_
_by the very Pope that made you,_
_You're a better game than I am,_
_Obra Dinn._
Har Har
The weird thing is, I read that poem for the first time two days ago.
2:30 Not even then since one of the ladies has a wedding band on them.
I am proud of my self. Me and my friends where playing this game on new years day and I managed to deduce who the officers of the ship where by the hats.
Still proud to this day.
I actually really liked the music... it gave an appropriate melodramatic atmosphere to each tableau, the closest equivalent I can think of is The Sexy Brutale's soundtrack.
The mechanics for unlocking the next clue though? First, explore the scene for exactly the amount of time I've decided. Then, once you have everything from here, press a button to turn everything indistinct, and find the next clue. Then press a button. Then we transport you back to the last clue, and then you follow a glowy thing along the same route you just walked.
I appreciate the solo auteur thing - and it's still an incredible game - but this is why editors and playtesters are useful!
Concerning the 4 Chinese topmen, I literally ran between them looking at their shoes while they are asleep.
I know right! Who sleep with their *shoes* on!?
Well, Chinese topmen apparently
Probably someone who wouldn't want them stolen in the middle of the night by some FrEsH bAsTaRd.
[SPOILER]
Or a dastardly Second Mate.
@@fds7476 I was so dumb for that part I had the wrong one on right until the last pair
Not that uncommon in the military or in naval shipping. You might have to get up suddenly and "don't get caught with your boots off" is an idiom for a reason. It literally refers to being captured or killed while trying to prepare yourself.
Have you looked at the ship? Are you sure you are willing to take off your shoes ever on it?
I had to beat this entire game before I could watch 10 seconds into the review because I feel he would spoil something that I wanted to solve myself. I'm both ashamed and glad it was only very small things
Wait the papers please guy made this? Why is no one talking about it?
Because Gentleman Gamers are busy crying about a mobile Diablo like the immature ass wipes most of them truly are
@@folx2733I can understand being annoyed at a company doing something like blizzard did but isn't the best way to show your frustration to buy someone else's game you like more?
@@ultgamercw6759 I'm not entirely sure how large the audience crossover would be.
@@folx2733 Surprise surprise, people at fucking Blizzcon weren't thrilled to here about a game that they weren't even in the target demographic for; clearly this is the audience's fault for some reason... Seriously, why are you even bringing this up? It's beyond irrelevant. The people who like Diablo and the people who would like this weird puzzle game don't inherently have any crossover between them; even if they were, this would be more likely to drive them to buy it. Mighty Number 9 boosted the sales of 20xx (a Mega Man X style roguelike game).
Anyway, the game has nearly a thousand reviews on Steam, near all of them positive; it's not completely unknown by any stretch, and the people who did get it tend to like it.
My main guess is the off-putting artstyle; I find the screenshots in the store to be outright unpleasant to look at. I cannot imagine actually staring at a game with that style for any extended period of time. That being said, of the 16 negative reviews, exactly 1 complained about the art style (they said it gave them headaches); of course, I imagine most people who would be put off by it would just never have bought the game in the first place.
How can you hate the MUSIC? It's seriously one of my favorite soundtracks ever.
It's more that it's very loud when revisiting memories. I love the soundtrack too but the music can disrupt my thinking when I look back on old memories.
@@xdjrockstar ...just change it in the options?
@@commenturthegreat2915 I haven't been on the game in months, but in the review YZ said there's no separate volume controls for the music
I had the same reaction. The music is amazing!
Especially the Soldiers at Sea theme! 😍
But it is annoying that you have to wait around for a bit before you get the death page.
I am so pleased to see Yahtzee actually happy after so long.
I think I like Yahtzee's reviews better when he's talking about something he really likes, an unpopular opinion I'm sure.
@@andrewponder3855 you gotta have variety in life.
Especially after the debacle that was COD BLOPS 4.
The music is absolutely amazing
Yahtzee got me interested in this game two years ago with this review, and I only just now got around to playing it. I was initially a bit miffed that he'd spoiled the existence of the Kraken, but there was SO MUCH MORE going on that I swiftly got over that. I agree that some of the identities were especially difficult to get - particularly ones where you might be right about the person, but wrong about who or what killed them, so it still won't count. But having solved the game to completion, I wanted to express my gratitude for Yahtzee bringing it to my attention. It was great.
There are lot of references to popular European comics in this one.
Fucking finally somebody besides me heard of Asterix books.
@@Sergei-kr3ds I fucking love the cartoon movies, watched them all the time when I was a kid
The live action ones are usually quite good as well
They are well known in the Benelux. There even was a pretty solid Tintin cartoon back in the days
@@Sergei-kr3ds I like Asterix books, and I'm in the Middle of fucking Nebraska.
@@MegaSim3 Wasn't 12 Tasks of Asterix great?
YAY WE GOT A POSITIVE ONE!
It's been a slog but hearing Yahtzee happy after such a long haze of middling anger and indifference was definitely worth it.
And not just that, an overwhelmingly positive one, only complaint was the music..
Finishing this game seriously made me feel super smart.
"an indistinct haze of poorly pigmented pixelated pillockry" is thee best line of monologue ever LOL
3:55 You can't double whammy us with Hieronymus Bosch and dithering, that's like double confusion sandwich
I realized about three quarters into the game that I was going to really miss it when it was over. So I got high and tried to forget about the things I was working on. Didn't work, and now I have three times as many seafaring horror nightmares than I did previously; and since I was already having three times of such before Return of the Obra Dinn, my nights are am now spent with my unconscious mind firmly adrift in my little cube of thalassophobia.
"I hate tintin books" don't know why but that made me laugh
I too, will never get over the way Jenny Agutter looked in Logan's Run. God. Damn.
It's always shameful to have a wank to a movie you genuinely like and respect, but I'm afraid your mention may have sent me once again down that dark spiral. Thanks a lot, Yahtzee.
I was not expecting Yahtzee to be such a big Horatio Hornblower fan but I love it
You pretty much nailed my every thought, one of the single best mystery games I've ever played...but no real reason to ever play it again. I'd love for it to become a series, Memento Morteming the shit out of various crime scenes.
Yahtzee, I have it on good authority that you didn't actually play Oregon Trail as a child. I enter into exhibit A: You playing Oregon Trail for the first time on your own channel with your favorite sex toy, Gabriel.
*pours one out for LDO*
"...I wish that one of my kids died, so I have less mouths to feed"
Been a year, just played the game finally, and spoilert: You identify at least one of the Chinese topmen by their shoes. XD
One has a white Chinese style shoes, one has black, and two of them have ankle height black shoes.
Also spoiler: you can tell which one of the women is “more virginal” because one is wearing a wedding ring and the other is titled “Miss” instead of “Mrs.”
Also spoiler: one of them can be seen sat beneath a hammock that has their number from the crew ledger on it lol
Also also: One of them wears stripey socks while sleeping, which you can later see when one poor bastard is getting struck by lightning.
ALSO also also: When viewing part 2 of "The Doom," you can stroll through the bunks again and take note of which ones are still hanging up - as the dead don't need hammocks to sleep. That narrows it down.
@@chrisjones5949 Good catch on the dead guy's hammock's being gone. I didn't notice that.
Wow, I just finished lieutenant Hornblower and the sunday crossword! Gonna pick this up. Thanks Yahtzee.
There is a method of telling them apart, their shoes! It's such an amazing detail and it made me feel very clever.
That shoutout to the Ioan Gruffudd Hornblower series genuinely filled me with joy.
_Titty Wompwomp (Midshipman): Fell off another, taller midshipman_
Hate to hear about things like that
Spoiler alert!
Titty Wompwomp was the butler, and he did it!
4:46. That's exactly how I feel, it was so good but now that I've finished I feel inmesively empty inside
I played the entire thing recently in two sessions and I’m genuinely sad that I can’t play it again for the first time.
2:27 basically sums up my circa 1970s teenage life.
Oh I'd have trouble since in my experience, top men and seamen tend to go hand in hand....
Amen on the Jenny Agutter reference!
She Co-Stared in “Logan’s Run” he used a picture of her from that movie, she was absolutely beautiful in the late 70’s look
@@BJGvideosShe was the hottest of the Psirens.
♪Obra dinn, Obra dahh!
Life goes oooon, brah♪
I like how the crossword puzzle at the end of the video actually had more words to fill in with the black squares if you try to read them up-down and not just left-right
Prediction: Yahtzee is going to like RDR 2 world and characters and hate how long and drawn out story campaing is.
not yet, another Indie game coming up next week
And also hate the controls, akin to the first one.
Which is a perfectly reasonable review of that game...
Thank God. That game is obnoxious.
@@Lawlaliet What?
Nice to see Yahtzee happy about a game every now and again.
I wish there was a game like "Obra Drinn" every year that blows my mind like that.
I actually really liked the music blarping away
Kinda want him to review CrossCode tho.
Such an underrated game.
Yeah! Seriously!
Crosscode is the indie darling of 2018
Yeah. CrossCode is pretty good.
I also enjoyed VA11HALLA as well, but mostly for the soundtrack.
@@Guru_1092 I have CrossCode and VA11HALLA downloaded but not bough, I need to get on them i guess
Hmm I would have to disagree. That game was great at the start, but towards middle and end it bored me to death because of the sheer number of puzzles upon puzzles. What sucked me in was the fast and engaging combat, what made me want to leave was the puzzles. I ultimately stayed for the plot.
At 3:55 that was a Hieronymus Bosch painting in monochrome, wasn't it? I guess this game really is for me. Also, the protagonist being an insurance investigator isn't necessarily a turn off. Sam Neill played one in the Lovecraftian "In The Mouth of Madness" movie.
Man, now I gotta go rewatch the Horatio Hornblower series. Such a good show.
I had to wait 2 years to play it again only because I had to make sure I had forgotten enough to be challenged again.
Soldiers of the Sea has the best theme.
Fight me.
It's good, but I prefer Murder's theme.
I like the main theme, as it's basically Soldiers of the Sea but a bit better.
I’m a big fan of Chapter 2s theme
Late to the party but Bargain is the greatest
Non-Spoiler: One of my major simple pleasures is just the _sound_ when I head over to an old memory and flick open my pocket watch just before clicking. [Flink!-DUH- _DUN!]_
Potential Spoiler: Also, yeah, some of the IDs do require looking _very_ close. For the Topmen, it all comes down to their hammock tags and their _shoes,_ believe it or not. At one point, you see one at dinner chatting with a friend not far from their hammocks, at another, they're all asleep, but their feet are sticking out. For the ladies, one _is_ noticeably physically older and generally "maternal", but she's also wearing... well, exactly what you'd _expect_ her to be wearing, really.
See the thing with Topmen is I never had trouble distinguishing them, all you need to do is zoom in to get the portrait highlight anyways. Just had to do a few permutations with their names.
@@manavsridharan3811 that's the guess work that yahtzee was talking about. Anastas is pointing out how you can distinguish them entirely without guessing by looking at the numbers on their hammocks and the shoes seen when they're sleeping in them. Another interesting detail is that hammocks are generally taken down by the next act after a crew member dies.
@@maxtenu Yup even if of no practical use, those details are really good. The game is so well built tbh.
@@maxtenu Holy shit that last detail is insane, I didn't clock that at all.
Huh, 2 years ago... I think I can play this again. Forgot most of it
Paused at the mention of crosswords.
bought it.
played for 4 or so hours and came back.
I can confirm that you will cross legs uncomfortably at scene mentioned.
My favorite thing he didn't mention is that the aforementioned radio plays of each death are first played to a black background with no context before revealing the scene at the end. It really lets you imagine what is happening before pulling back the curtains to sometimes glorious "what the fu-" moments.
So I just downloaded the game and decided to watch this video for any advice. Thank you for telling me to take it slow on this one. I got my first three identities down and could feel myself hungry for more of the game. I'm going to wait at least until tomorrow for more. If you happen to take the time to read this comment from a game you reviewed 2 years ago, thanks for your work I really do appreciate the care you have for this art form.
How long did you eventually take?
I still dont get how yahtzee dislikes the music at all, it was one of my favorites parts!
It's so great
I loved the music, too!
The whole game was made at rip his heart out his chest and smuggle it across the border, I think hes allowed to have one part that doesnt quite hit otherwise it would come back for the rest of him we wouldn't see him for the next two years
@@eyelessbun5785 That's the thing, some of us don't even think he didn't hit it. The music was great, just like everything else in the game!
"The premise is, you are an insurance investigator - whoa, slow the fuck down Lucas Pope, this roller coaster's off to a hot start!" 😂
Man, this is such a delight. I'm just imagining Yahtzee smiling throughout the voiceover.
I have just finished the game. What a great experience that was.
I do love Horatio Hornblower
The books are pitch perfect and the PBS series is a childhood favorite. There's a golden age of cinema movie called Captain Horatio Hornblower that would probably do well with Mst3k, but is otherwise skippable.
Something something I didn't know your mum was called Horatio
The latter books got a bit silly, but the early ones are gold.
3:55 images on school tests be like
So it's thanks to you that I actually played this game.
Also, for the four Chinese topmen, the only one I COULD identify was one that wears black (or striped?) pants/leggings/socks. You can find his legs sticking out in the sleeping quarters and that was the only identifier I found among them.
Yhatzee, you’re the reason my favourite day of the week is Wednesday
I saw this on an episode of Steam Train years ago and vowed I would play it when the full release was out. Today is my day. Now is my moment. Empty is my wallet. Damn.
Thank you for always brightening my Wednesday's, and thanks for the suggestion
good to see yahtzee writing a positive review. always brings me hope
Its rare that someone can be thankful for having a shitty memory.
Would love a retro review of metroid prime
I second this motion.
@@thekingofcardboard I second the seconding of this motion
The motion to second this motion has been seconded. Mr. Speaker, if you would please direct this assembly we may carry this to a vote.
Unless something utterly unforeseen happens that isn't gonna go no matter how many votes you get. All his retro reviews are games he's gushed repeatedly about and the Metroid series doesn't fall into that category.
@@Penningtontj I agree that he probably won't make a review about it, but I disagree that he doesn't love it. He brings it up in a lot of videos and says it was the only game before dark souls to capture the essence of a metroidvania in a 3D space.
I have a feeling this is going to be new favorite review series
after 3 years i finally got to this game and boy did it deliver.
The review opened so enthusiastically that I was certain it was all sarcastic anddd... then it wasn’t... good shit
You are demented. The music absolutely MAKES the game.
I actually did start a reply after a year+. I found it like a good book or movie you haven't had a chance to enjoy in a while: It has a lot of sections where you know what's going to happen, even more where something happens and then you remember another chunk, and sections that can still stump you. Mainly because you did the random guessing last time for that death.
This review convinced me to at least read "Mr. Midshipman Hornblower" before playing. Good advice.
Lucas Pope does it again!
2:31 Not for me, I remembered English wedding traditions (aka, the wedding ring :P )
cheers Yatz, you turned me on to my favourite game in a very very long time. whats more is i bloody love the music, atmospheric blarps and all
I’m 4 years late but I’ve just learnt that the 4 Chinese topmen can be diffrentiated using their unique footwear that they stick out of their hammocks when sleeping. The hammocks themselves having the respective crew member’s number from the register.
Thanks Yatzee, I've just learned about Jenny Agutter from you!
3:55
I know Hieronymus Bosch when I see it Yahtz
You can tell the Chinese topmen apart by what shoes they have on and what number on the ship roster they are. Their numbers can be seen on their hammock
At the end of the review, Yahtzee paused briefly
while saying "just like my - nursery school teacher used to say"
It's the end of an era, there was punctuation in a Zero Punctuation video
It's good to see the big review scores for this game. I've been anticipating this one since the demo.
Yahtzee and Lucas, sitting in a tree.
Give it a year or two and you’ll forget most about the details and only remember the key important things that occur
Dude the music is SO good, what???
"Try to savor it"
Oh how right he was
Obra Dinn? It sounds the name of an obscure Star wars character.
Sounds like добрый день - "good afternoon" in Russian.
Hey Yahtzee you should play star wars republic commando
The official unlocking of events for taking notes seems to be related to "seen" all the people in the scene. If it hasn't unlocked, there'll be another person somewhere it wants you to find first.
I’m pretty sure it unlocks it once the music track is over
And here I am listening to the OST on loop.