Simon Boisvert: Shane Wright is NOT Elite - Habs Talk
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- On this episode of The Sick Podcast, former QMJHL scout and current consultant for Val D’Or Simon Boisvert joins Tony Marinaro to discuss if Shane Wright is a lock for the number one pick, his opinions on other prospects in the draft, his thoughts on previous Canadiens draft picks and more! Don’t forget to follow The Sick Podcast with Tony Marinaro on iHeartRadio, Instagram, Facebook, CZcams, Twitter, SiriusXM and all other podcast platforms!
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In his first 26 games he had 32 pts.. he missed an entire season due to pandemic. he was rusty. When he picked it up, He had 62 pts in his last 37! Which would have been on pace for 115
It’s not just about his scoring ability, he has elite vision and knows how to create room for his line mates to put up points too.
That's not exactly true.
He had 32 points in his first 24 games (22 before the WJC and 2 after he came back). So he had 62 points over his last 39 games for a 1.59 points-per-game pace. Over a full 65 game season, that 104 points.
@@paulbc9678 yep, it appears both of our math was wrong. 62÷37= 1.6756756757 x 63games played) had he had this pace all season= 105.57 pts.
And I still think he could have reached another gear this year if there was a season last year.
@@Un_t0uch4bl3 62/39 = 1.59 x 65 games played = 103.3 points (104 rounded up)
Technically I think there are 68 official games in the OHL per season, so he potentially could've reached 109 points but he would've gone to the WJC so he wouldn't have played the full 68 games.
But anyways yes I do think he had even more in the tank and I think he'll be elite in the league
I'm from Burlington, Ontario Shane's hometown and I have seen him play from his youth to teen years to being a fine young adult, this guy is the real deal! The total package and he will be great in a Habs uniform. Will be an excellent compliment to Caufield for years to come! A complete 2 way player! The new price is Wright!
I am also from Burlington Ontario, grew up going to Cougar games, and we about to have 2 Burlington boys on the Habs! I love it! HEY TONY! Your podcast is SICK!
Apparently hes the very very poor man's John tavares. Damn Daniel i dont want dat homieee
@@Samlevine111 lets not even compare him to anyone. Shane wright is Shane wright. Him and suzuki as the top 2 centers will be solid. Who would you draft if you were the GM of Montreal then?
@@jomo8344 i would never want to be in that position this year. This draft is one of the hardest to know who will be a Nolan patrick and who will be a cale makar loll
@@Samlevine111 true. Im a montreal fan and to get #1 overall this year is bitter sweet. Its a trash year compared to all the other previous years and next year. Bedard, Michkov, Fantilli, Ritchie, Dvorsky. 2023 is stacked. This sucks.
Simon Boisvert is a complete lunatic. I've listen to his "analysis" on the radio. A true madman.
Feb 21, 2024
The Snake has proven himself to be accurate. He's far from a lunatic. Wright goes fourth and Slafkofsky goes 1st overall. Juraj is becoming a force to be reckoned with and Shane has been absent this year.
How ironic
this comment aged like a fine milk
I put my trust in Mr. Hughes and J Gortron , I think they will pick the best player available and I'm good with that!!!
the problem is even with they wanted another player you cannot ignore wright in mtl with the 1st pick
I remember the 2011 draft, Snake70 was all about "Matt Puempel". This guy have strong opinion and time prouve him wrong a lot of time.
Boisvert says that Geekie has wonderful work ethic from what he was told.... So am I understanding this right? He sees him going first but didn't scout Geekie himself?
Work ethics is best evaluated in practices and other training off the ice. He thinks he has enough of it to work on his skating flaws.
Poelhing also had an " outstanding" work ethic
Thanks Tony for getting us the #1 pick! Those prayers paid off!
Entertaining podcast for sure but thank God boisvert isn't one of our scouts.
Tony dont give this guy anymore air time please, talk to Stephane Leroux , there à reason way he not à scout anymore , his évaluation is so bab
I knew this guy was a bust when he said i offered my services to the habs via the media. Come on seriously ?
So dont give air time to the guy with bags under his eyes but give airtime to leroux who got caught for being a p3D0 . Damn.
@@Samlevine111 sorry but get your story rigth these accusations ,have been showed to be completly not true, before saying things like this about someone
@@fcantin1 they were True.
this comment aged like milk
Encore et toujours excellent. Continuez votre bon travail,,vous apportez quelque chose d'unique..
"I saw this guy at least 3 times"
Wow, what a scout !
No worries all he is saying is Wright lacks a "WOW" factor - already said by many scouts and he is not going to be a super star or 'generational talent'- something that many people have said as well - a few people have said Wright projects as a John Tavares level of player - good player not an all-time great player.
And I like the fact that he would have fired Trevor Timmins 10 years ago.
Nobody would have picked kk at 3 and chucky got f’ed with bad development. Look at his rookie year and 2’d year no reason why a 30goal scorer should play 12min a game. But Habs have drafted well late. They just don’t know how to draft in the 1 st round.
Shane Wright reminds me of a mix between Mackinnon and Suzuki I have no doubt he will be a 80+ point guy
I agree. He skates with prowess like mackinnon with Suzuki’s defensive awareness.
People are acting like getting a very good player is a bad thing. Who cares that he’s not generational. He is gaurenteed to be the best centre weve had in over 30 years
To me... Shane Wright is a fusion between: Tavares, O'Reilly & Barkov in the making... yes he's good all around like Bergeron but his upset is way better than he was at is age! Look at the under 18 tournament how dominant he was just before the OHL season was canceled! To concluded, I do believe he need one more season in the OHL before turning Pro and a power skating coach! But overall he's a VERY completed player!
@@MakeUmad4life He isnt really known for his skating
This guy's glass isn't half empty, it s just empty lol. Nonetheless, refreshing to hear his perspective! This podcast is SICK!
Tony nobody wants to hear from Simon, there is so many other people more interesting than him ! I just lost it when he said Geekie over Wright, the guy is lost.
Geekie over wright is such a joke. Geekie shouldn’t even go in the top 10
This guy just saying shit for shock value and clout.
Great podcast with Snake Boisvert!! I love this man analysis!!
Tony, I love this timeout for a prayer and candle for the CH first choice. Strangely even if I am a total atheist, but I have great respect for someone that is proud to show his Catholic belief and heritage. I was born in Montréal, French Catholic education and I feel you are so much a part of Montréal, les Canadiens, la Sainte-Flanelle and the Québécois community, you are one of a kind. I truly love your show and your energy. Keep on the good work.
Aren't the Canadain Catholics responsible for the 100,000 children killed in the residential schools?
We listening to a guy who chose nichuskin over Mack
Hey at least he's honest with his fair share of mistakes. He did take Cale Makar at 1st where nearly every scouts ranking him from 6 to 10
@@p.hhenry4454 true also bc he knows people would call him out if he didn’t address it. Makar at 1 is a very wise pick I must give him tho. I’m kind of comparing how geeke over wright is similar to nichuskin over mack in a sense.
@@adrianorosato9759 We really don't know in 5 years, if he'll look like a mastermind genius or a complete moron.
@@p.hhenry4454 I find he tries to play devils advocate and use someone other than the consensus number 1 so that if he’s right he looks like a genius
I think he will fit in very well.Its a good start.I know the next couple of years are going to hurt so be patient.
If I'm not mistaken, back then in 2013, he said that Valeri Nichushkin was the best player of the draft... So I think we have to take his analysis of Shane Wright with a grain of salt.
I've followed Snake for minimum 10+ years and he's been more right than wrong. Just to let you know.
Snake also said that Puljujarvi & Patrick Laine would be better than Matthews... tsé
I think Snake is spot on but I don't think Wright will flop either, we just need to manage our expectations, I see him as a mix between Tavares and Spezza, he will be very good but not just one hockey player wins games. Habs will need wingers, others than Caufield, scoring goals and especially help on defense. I d put him in Kingston next year because he missed one year of playing hockey and the habs can go back in the lottery next year as well. Another thing, Joshua Roy IS slow, and in the NHL right now it is not a league for slow players. We shall see!
wright is suzuki 2.0
Really Snake? Geekie? The guy is ranked 14, and you’d pick him over Wright? 🤣 I think snake needs to stay in Val D’Or
Snake needs to make sure his dealer didnt give him the wrong drugs
Hold on... He made the point of upside... More upside may be a better objective to
2 way for sure. Great shot for sure. Speed average but for sure knows when to turn on the jets. Because his hockey IQ.(he can play fast). If Shane not elite than neither is Suzuki. But in 3-5 years what team will want to play against a Suzuki, Wright team?? Especially in the playoffs??? That’s a tall order my friend.
exactly no need for Mcdavid speed when your smart with the puck , Bergeron aint a speedster and hes been dominant
Exactly and Suzuki is his FLOOR. We already know he will score more than Suzuki does because he has a better shot and is much more willing to go to the front of the net more often. So we get a Suzuki that can score 30-40 goals a year? Bro that is elite. Doesn’t matter that he’s not generational. 98% of cup winners don’t have a generational talent.
I trust our currently very competent HABS management team to make the right picks.
Do you imagine choosing Geeke before Wright in Montreal hahahaha!
Totally agree with Snake's assessment of Shane Wright but "one mine is better than two you will get". Let's take Shane Wright who could become a Jacques Lemaire. A projection of 30 goals, 50 assists on a regular basis would suit me perfectly.
Poor Tony....you could hear the air as he deflated ..lol I agree with Snake on Mailloux, Roy, Norlinder
Thanks Tony Always fun and Always Sick .I can't believe they get the first pick .Do you honestly think they'll pick Shane Wright 🤔, I really hope so 🙏
Lmao i keep coming back to this Vid just to see Tony Facepalming LOL !!!
how this aged well for Snake. Tony owes him a few apologies
Snake, you are definitely WRIGHT on this one!
Snake tells it like it is> you have to admire his frankness!!!
I don't see Wright like an elite talent on the level of matthews, Stamkos or McDavid... but if he is the smartest player of them all, we might rebuild this team way faster than everybody thinks.
What you’re listing is closer to generational or franchise altering players. You don’t have to be that to be considered elite. You don’t have to be them to be a top line player, you also don’t have to have that to win a cup, hell 98% of cup winners don’t have one of those players. He will be somewhere in the ballpark of Zibanejad, Seguin, and Tavares. I will be completely okay with that because that will still be the best player we’ve had in the last 30 years.
The dude skates like jason allison and dangles like max pacioretty damnnnn Daniel that shhh not good doggy
How can I see Simon's top 30 list for the upcoming NHL draft?
Simon hates Wright for no reason. People are over scouting Shane Wright. People are searching for his flaws now.
Agreed. It’s weird. Center with size and skill and an obvious gamer. Mans said Quinn Hughes lol. Tkachuk (was mine). But I seen Shea Weber one arm Quinn like he was cotton candy lol. True story
No he doesn't. He said he was a good player multiple time. He just think that Geekie has the potential to be a homerun.
@@TheRightWillRise Oh boy, He wants to pick Geekie instead. Does that sound french to you?
@@dden7670 Geekie doesn't skate very well, definitely not a Montreal type player Hughes and Gorton are looking for imo.
May 10 - One of the happiest days in my life!
Interesting takes. Good to have an extra hockey head who can provide insight and stats. Sick!
Poor Tony. He didn't know who he was inviting, haha. I like Simon Boisvert, but I wouldn't put Geekie first or near first. I would love MTL to trade for a second draft pick early in order to get him, though.
They have the Flames first
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 Yes, but to get Geekie, it is likely to be too late. :)
@@blizzardqc you can always trade up
Tony this has been one of your better pot cast. A lot of it has to do with the fact that you let your guest speak without cutting him off all the time. Good job.
Hello Tony, No Mangia cake from Toronto here. The largest and fastest line in the NHL. ... [ SLAFKOSKY] left wing ..... [P.L. DUBOIS ] center ..... [ANDERSON] right wing.
Tony, please do it again for Bedard. I've got faith in you!
Tony's face at 18:00...thought he was going to cry. Lol.
Thank you Tony for the Podcast ..but i think Slavkovski ..is pretty intimidating for his size ..and he hasn't stop growing. Due to the fact he is only 18.. this kid will be impressive..cause Montreal needs to get bigger.. to finish it off.. he's got great speed for the size that he is ..and Montreal is based on speed..
Great show as usual Tony,
Can you get Simon Boisvert "the snake" back on?
He brings a contrarian and often realistic perspective to the table
I think the fact that Wright did not play in 2020-21 hurt his perceived value. Wright had a great second half of the season this year. Had he played 2 years ago, he would have had an even better year this season. I think he is a bit of a hidden gem. I think Boisvert is shortchanging him. I'd certainly draft Wright over anyone else. He will be better than a "good" player.
Exactly
So why did 7 kids finish ahead of him in OHL scoring this year? Most of them missed a year of play also did they not? Boisvert is right in saying that Wright did not dominate. Wyatt Johnson did, so did Rory Kerins. Don’t get me wrong , the safe bet for Hughes is to pick Wright and I’m prety sure he will. He would be lapidated in Montreal if he traded his first pick away or picked a Connor Geekie.
@@FrancoisBert You realize all of the players who finished ahead of Wright are older them him right? Some are 3 years older than him and were never drafted.. All overage players produce big numbers. Most of them will never play in the nhl. He led the league for draft eligible players.
@@domvidz6511 Exactly
Tony thank god we can count on you for our prayers . This kid is not drafted yet but im starting to get scared of all the pressure he will be getting in Montreal .
Very good conversation. You should bring Snake more often. I was part of the same blog at Lapresse where he basically taught everyone about scouting, prospects, asset management. The Snake was ahead of everyone and probably still is! Yes, he's made some mistakes but his track record is still impressive and it's on record for anyone to see.
LOVED THAT SNAKE GUY! HE DOESNT MAKE ME VERY HAPPY WITH OUR PROSPECTS FUTURE BUT HEY...LOVED IS TAKE ON A LOT OF THINGS. SICK POD TONY!
Last couple episodes i notice background noise kind of chimem when people are talking
yea me too its annoying
I love the video thumbnail image. I clicked right away just because of that :D
Snake is here spiting some crazy predictions here
Just to be clear Habs fans here’s what “very good player” means.
Seguin
O’Rielly
Zibanejad
Lindholm
These are all certified top line centres. Would you be upset if Shane Wright became the same level player as these? Because this is what the scouts believe he will be. Not every 1st overall pick has to be a franchise altering player, or a generational talent.
Agree, don’t need a generational talent
Generational talent such as McDavid or Matthews end-up asking 12m per season anyway.
Playoff team have depth. I'd be realy happy with Suz and Wright as center, making around 7m/8m each, putting up 70/80pts each.
Now you have a realyyyyy good 1-2 punch, who can score but also be reliable in defense.
Futur's bright for us habs fan
Seguin is not his floor 🤣
@@anza7522 Seguin is not as good as you think.
If he becomes as good as Zibanejad then call me a happy.
like a comment i read ....... with all the pics the habs have this year and next...... i would love to see a lot of wheeling and dealing of those pics along with players .
to get at least another one or two players in this draft.
I agree with Boisvert. Wright is not dominant right now and it's absolutely a concern.
🐍 should be associated GM for Ottawa senators. He is knowledgeable and has good insights on futures of a 17-18 yr olds.
Tony's expression @ 19 minute mark .. LOL!
I like the "Snake"
Tony, your best podcast so far! I’ve known about Simon Snake Boisvert for some time. This guy really thinks outside the box. He has a track record to prove it. He’s very calm and collected, he’s not a brash person trying to impress you à la Pierre Mcguire. He doesn’t say what people want to hear. We’ll see about his predictions, time will tell. But I must say, they are disconcerting.
pierre Mcguire just got fired in Ottawa!
He is not brash like Pierre Mcguire but he sure knows how to rub people the wrong way like him too. At the end of the day, those type of guys two who believe they are the smartest guys in the room don't get a whole lot of opportunities outside their living room couch. Guy straight up asked for a consultant job like Vincent Lecavalier, okay buddy you think you are hot shot enough to be on the same pedestal than a former NHL superstar and first client of the now GM. Delusional troll this snake.
Boisvert said it...Wright was better after Christmas... at the beginning of the season, Wright had 2 rookie wingers... then after Christmas, the coach gived him regular wingers!
At WJC-18, Wright got 14 pts in 5 games and he was just ok ???
tony marinaro has the best hockey talk show in all of canada...therefore it is the best talk show in the world...HNIC does not even come close...also simon Boisvert is a very very knowledgeable scout and calls it the way he see`s it....this episode has been my best viewed hockey talk show ever....you 2 guys are the best....keep up the great work....all the best.....newmarket, ontario.....also why was Jacques Lemaire giving Guy Lafleur such a miserable time as coach of the Habs....that is why Guy retired the 1st and then he moved onto Rangers and Nordiques etc etc.....shame shame on Lemaire.....
22:10 .. 'Drouin, ahh .. never liked him' .. you're not the only one buddy.
#goHughesGo
mtl doesn't need a franchise player.
A solid hockey player is exactly what they need right now.
Solid throughout a team wins cups.
Look at how well teams with a single franchise player tend to perform in playoffs : they don't.
He got exceptional status. The only bust is Sean Day and he was a oversized D who came in 250lbs to a camp Wright missed his prime junior years thanks to Covid this draft will be very good for steals . Sure next years 1st is worth a ton more but all these kids missed out on hockey for over a year. So it’s anyones guess on how good weight really is
Like his perception on Trevor Timmins - at drafting, Timmins hits lots of singles - very few home runs - IF you want to be a competitive team - you need difference makers - not depth players that you can typically obtain every July 1st usually at a bargain basement price
Trevor Timmins is brutal
Idk about this guy. He kept comparing Wright to McDavid when no one else is. Honestly mtl right now needs a bergeron type player to replace the hole that Danault left. Who knows maybe Wright with Roy on the same line might turn into an awesome 2nd line.
Our a first line who knows
U can pick up a danault on July 1sr what they need is an anze Kopitar thru the draft....forget about drafting a Patrice bergeron
Wright is not elite but more a Bergeron 200 foot player and a star of the future.
It's a good start.
Lol Bergeron was and I’d think most people would still consider him as elite.
Simon how many full Wright games have you watched? Probably not even one lol
After a year, is right!
Shane Wright is a darn good hockey player with tremendous upside. There are many variables to consider when you come to a thorough conclusion with respect to where a player will be at 22-23 years of age which nobody has control over when making predictions. Some develop better than others but nobody has a crystal ball to tell us where a given player will be in a few years from now. Shane Wright has high end skills where you need them the most in the offensive categories. He is a Top 6 forward ! Who does not want that? Habs have been poor on player development over many years up until recently when we finally gave some young players a chance to play and develop on centre stage. His shot is devastating which is something many players in the NHL don't have at the moment. We will definitely have quite a PP with Suzuki, CC and Wright bending those sticks. There is a lot more creativity indeed. Our depth chart is by far the best in years but The Snake seems to keep a knock on the Habs for some reason. As Wright matures through the bumpy roads ahead, I am sure he will be a solid contributor to a winning formula in the years ahead. Not all players drafted make it through but we need skills offensively which Shane Wright definitely has. We will definitely revisit this conversation in a few years from now. Thanks Tony for a great job with your Sick Podcast! Take care! Habsrule!
Not afraid to speak his mind. I respect that, eventho I don't agree with everything he said. Go Habs Go !!!
I hate being a Habs fan, just when we're starting to turn a corner of positivity you entertain this clown. Not a good look tony
Good show Tony, I don't understand any of the haters on the guest. Personally I'm not into sheeps, love the different opinions, this scout was open and didn't seem bias and he seems to know his stuff. Although disagree with his take on Trevor Timmins. You forget he's Anglo and pressure to select French players at all cost AKA Louis Leblanc. Not to mention the recycled coaches we had. We're they really helping our propespects at the time. Definately not like St.Louis. the biggest thing about MTL was that they don't deevelop players this has nothing to do with Timmins which is why is bottom picks always work out because those goes had the hard working mentality and didn't need outside forces to help them. They are so many factors. I will continue to defend Timmins. Of course he made mistakes but...
Boisvert indicated that Shane Wright lacks a "WOW" factor (of dominance) to his game. I saw (TV) Suzuki play a handful of OHL games and wondered how he was such a prolific and consistent scorer (he did not seem to 'dominate' play on the ice). If Wright can be at least as good as Suzuki, IMHO it would be worthwhile to take him as the #1 selection in this NHL Draft class - just my opinion.
he is suzuki 2.0
Well that felt like a punch in the stomach.
I wasn't excited about this draft and now I'm even less excited.
Also sounds like the Habs have nothing exciting in their system.
The future is looking awesome!!!
Welcome to Quebec ladies and gentleman the Mecca of negative people and naysayers
Lol the disgust in Tony's face at 18:00 lmao
Imagine the MTl crowd at the Draft lol VAMOS HABS!
Pretty interesting analysis. But you have to take Wright no matter what. Habs could draft Geekie later on in the draft.
Hi jUST so everyone knows not only can snake always make the best prediction he also cleans the bathroom and grounds at local arenas..how is he not been discovered by NHL gm
Damn that guy is a complete clown.
this is exactly what i ear for this draft
if montreal get an offer for the 1st pick they can't refuse , they should go for it
What would be that offer?
Snake is legit. He was not afraid to offend Habs fans and gave it the way he sees it. I agree with most of what he said. Habs management needs to do the right thing not what the fans want. I hope we draft the best player in this draft or it is a failure.
Tom, who do you think they should take?Serious question, would like your opinion.
@@curtisault2508 I honestly do not know who the best player is. We have access to a fraction of the data they have access to. I just hope they do the right thing what ever that is. I hope that in 3-5 years we can all say they picked the right guy. I do not want them to pick the guy most of us expect them to pick just because they fear the fans rage at the draft.( It is in Montreal after all)
If they believe that Wright is the guy then I hope they take him. I want to judge them on their choice not have excuses.
Why do we have to listen to him every year?
Tony loved your reaction of discouragement. lol we shall see over time if snake is right. Montreal has not won a cup since 1993 right? one of the reasons they did a terrible job in drafting and developping players. As if they do not have the competence to developpe good hockey players. I hope the new admin in place will turn this around. Montreal is at one Stanley cup of number 25.
Lets pray.
Please Tony, don't have this bozo back. His scouting aside, he lost me when he was using the media to apply for a job.
why? shane is a bust, better to trade or draft cooley.. but need to trade it.
He doesn't share the orthodox opinion, so he shouldn't be heard?
Let’s just say the habs won’t call him for job lol
This guy is no bozo. You don’t like to hear what he has to say so you call him a bozo. Of course the Canadiens will pick Wright … it’s the safest bet. But don’t shoot the guy because he thinks outside the box.
@@habs4life41 Buddy don’t troll you sound 12.
Thanks Tony, Snake has some valid insights.
tony is the best i am say that italy is not in the world cup italy had the young players to go all the way but like every four years out
Very Sick
2 months until the draft. Don't overthink this. This team finished 32nd and got the lottery win. The best player on this team is Nick Suzuki and we had to trade for him. Now the Habs can draft a player that will complement him down the middle in the next few years. Choose Shane Wright with the first pick.
i don't understand all the negative comments... He has the right to his opinion and I can appreciate the fact that its different from the mass. Who can't agree that the difference between Wright and other top picks is not that big? I think this is where he's coming from. It was a nice show in my book!
Thank god you're not a scout for the Habs too then lol
@@kd-hr9se lol i never said I was on the same page as him on everything... i just think it is unjustified to be so negative toward him thats all.
If we draft Shane #1 Mtl won't get the best winger, he'll be gone, so draft Slavkowsky #1 and there are several great centers so get maybe Cooley by moving up and Stavkowsky will make Cooley the best center anyway
kid lost a complete season please .... hes the best player dont start here ... Wright is the only way !!
Simon SICK Boisvert ....
Trop tôt pour juger. Give the kid a chance to become an adult before predicting anything. Pour le moment, on repêche Wright...
Dennis played for the jr de Montreal
Wright should go #1 for sure!
Lmao, I prayed too.😂🤣
Is this a joke? This guy sounds like a disgruntled person who didn’t get a scouting job with the Habs that he obviously lobbied for. Totally unimpressed with this person. Maybe you should ask Craig Button (former GM) what he thinks of his take on Wright. I’ll believe Craig Button far before your guest. Craig said the Habs should just draft Shane & be done with it.
How do you say he is not "Elite" compare McDavid and Wrights stats side by side..if Wright does his 3rd year in the OHL like McDavid did hes getting over 120 points easily
Time will tell - he may turnout well, he may suck - but the only question is who is the best prospect as of now.
I listened to no snake !!!
The Snake sure was wright!
Tony if u bring back this hot dog 🌭 vendor I might have 2 ban ur podcast. Btw I love ❤️ hot dogs. Snakes not so much.