He probably configured the keyboard to control both at the same time, in which case the output minus the audio differences between the platforms would be identical.
@@Flashback_Jack An emulation software does react a lot different than a real synth. For that reason every parameter has to be matched by ear. For me a sign of great musicianship.
And here we go: This comment will reveal which one is which. So, if you don't want a spoiler, don't open this until you have a strong estimate. All those who want to know, check the results by clicking "show more". * * * * * * A: Stacked hardware SEMs B: GForce OB-E
HI Marius. Thanks for this test. The SEM is one of the synths I use a lot as software and have considered to add to my hardware collection. How many SEMs are stacked and how are they set to play duophonic? I thought they would just play monophonic with four VCOs if you connect them with CV/Gate. Is this something that is exclusive to the SEM Pro's MIDI-functionality?
I was trying to guess which one is which. Instead listened which one I like more. The winner was one, deeper lows and more definition in higher range. B sounded flat(er), especially when flip between A/B/ Please tell me this is some EQ difference or else discrepancies in setup. Or is it? Buying 8 SEM-Pro's is not an option, VST is still sounds amazing. Just want to undestand. TNX!
I agree with harpplant and the others - the music is wonderful! Impressive, and your timing is so good, playing the arpeggios. I think many don’t know the difficulty to play so evenly for that long. And then the matching of the patch is so good! Another GForce masterwork. Congrats to Dave and Chris!
I owned an original SEM, and am thoroughly blown away by the OB-E. Staggering accomplishment! The instrument is beyond inspirational. And BTW, using the DX7 as a control keyboard will never give you velocity levels above 100. Sad fact from the very early days of MIDI
Beautiful! I think A is the hardware, mostly because B is more in tune. That there's any doubt speaks for the quality of GForce's emulation, it really sounds good.
Excellent performance! Would love to see you play Ob-E with a Hydrasynth. Many of the best factory presets have very expressive poly aftertouch modulations baked in..
To me (very subjective statements here): - A is HARWARE : has more "colour" "complexity" "depth", "3Dness" than B, it feels like you can hear the slightly different voices of each VCO ; - B is SOFTWARE : sounds more less complex and more compressed. The music sounds absolutely incredible.
Yes, the hardware sounds a bit more organic, less flat, but it is reasonably close, also the choice is not really there bc who can find AND afford one of the extremely rare original synths? It probably costs a hefty 5- digit price. Beautiful composition.
B sounded better to me on first listen, A sounds 'flatter', less alive, so I'm guessing it's the software. That said they booth sound very good... and now I see I was wrong! On a second listen I can hear the smoothness and depth in A but I was fooled by the brightness and movement of B. Amazing. Thanks
I bought this ob-e vst - and think the arps sound great - its v easy to get an excellent result. I also have a SEM patchbay - but man .... this sounds better !!! Obviously its not analogue - but in terms of just get going with 8 modules of the sem its just so easy ... I know its not as bright as my SEM but it does sound very pleasant to the ear and lets face it - your average person cant tell the difference - and if you asked me to identify a SEM or a vst from within a track with other instruments going I really could nt tell.
Definitiv ist B an einigen Stellen lauter, an anderen dafür A. Wie in der englischsprachigen Videobeschreibung erklärt, ist es bei der hier angewendeten Vorgehensweise nahezu unmöglich, Lautstärke und sonstige Einstellungen exakt und vor allem konstant zwischen beiden Systemen abzugleichen. Der originale 8-Voice, wie auch mein "Multitrack-8Voice" besteht aus 8 separaten Monosynthesizern und ich ändere im Verlauf des Stückes ständig dynamisch die Klangfarbe. Das muss nun zwangsläufig händisch an jedem Synthesizer einzeln erfolgen und zwar in 8 Durchläufen, jeweils für eine einzelne Stimme. Das kann zwangsläufig nur eine Annäherung werden. ;-)
The music is so good that I forgot the video was about a comparison.
This just proves that with good music, it doesn't matter about the minuscule difference
Magic.
Applause for matching the sounds this close across platforms! And even more for brilliant musicianship and composition!
He probably configured the keyboard to control both at the same time, in which case the output minus the audio differences between the platforms would be identical.
@@Flashback_Jack An emulation software does react a lot different than a real synth. For that reason every parameter has to be matched by ear. For me a sign of great musicianship.
And here we go: This comment will reveal which one is which. So, if you don't want a spoiler, don't open this until you have a strong estimate. All those who want to know, check the results by clicking "show more".
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B: GForce OB-E
HI Marius. Thanks for this test. The SEM is one of the synths I use a lot as software and have considered to add to my hardware collection. How many SEMs are stacked and how are they set to play duophonic? I thought they would just play monophonic with four VCOs if you connect them with CV/Gate. Is this something that is exclusive to the SEM Pro's MIDI-functionality?
I was trying to guess which one is which. Instead listened which one I like more. The winner was one, deeper lows and more definition in higher range. B sounded flat(er), especially when flip between A/B/ Please tell me this is some EQ difference or else discrepancies in setup. Or is it?
Buying 8 SEM-Pro's is not an option, VST is still sounds amazing. Just want to undestand. TNX!
To be frank both are amazing and I don't really care but my wallet does 😂
@@samprock Is this confirmation bias at play here, maybe Marius played us and its the other way round!?
I agree with harpplant and the others - the music is wonderful! Impressive, and your timing is so good, playing the arpeggios. I think many don’t know the difficulty to play so evenly for that long. And then the matching of the patch is so good! Another GForce masterwork. Congrats to Dave and Chris!
I owned an original SEM, and am thoroughly blown away by the OB-E. Staggering accomplishment! The instrument is beyond inspirational. And BTW, using the DX7 as a control keyboard will never give you velocity levels above 100. Sad fact from the very early days of MIDI
Unless it's been expanded with E!, of course. :)
All of it sounds fantastic, I don't care which one's which. I couldn't tell the difference, I loved every minute
OBe is truly a wonder of creation.
Beautiful! I think A is the hardware, mostly because B is more in tune. That there's any doubt speaks for the quality of GForce's emulation, it really sounds good.
Sound's Spot On Love It
That's a fascinating comparison, super playing too!
Excellent performance! Would love to see you play Ob-E with a Hydrasynth. Many of the best factory presets have very expressive poly aftertouch modulations baked in..
BRAVO!! Glorious playing, sir!
To me (very subjective statements here):
- A is HARWARE : has more "colour" "complexity" "depth", "3Dness" than B, it feels like you can hear the slightly different voices of each VCO ;
- B is SOFTWARE : sounds more less complex and more compressed.
The music sounds absolutely incredible.
I hear the same.
Beautifully Done!!!... I go with OB-E
Wie immer
ein musikalisches Gedicht
Hau rein mein guter
Lg Toni
Yes, the hardware sounds a bit more organic, less flat, but it is reasonably close, also the choice is not really there bc who can find AND afford one of the extremely rare original synths? It probably costs a hefty 5- digit price. Beautiful composition.
very schön
Ich tippe auch auf A für die Hardware... aber unabhängig davon, wundervoll gespielt.
B sounded better to me on first listen, A sounds 'flatter', less alive, so I'm guessing it's the software. That said they booth sound very good... and now I see I was wrong! On a second listen I can hear the smoothness and depth in A but I was fooled by the brightness and movement of B. Amazing. Thanks
Not sure which is which but I for sure prefer A..
Amazing tune!
Close enough to never matter.
I hope the OB-E is 'A', because that one sounds better. But I'm assuming that's the SEM.
Yes, the real SEM jumps out of the speaker like a cheeky 3D movie jumps off the screen. The ob-e sounds beautiful but definitely more 2 dimensional.
I can't tell the difference at all, but I didn't know you had a DX7! Would love to see you do some videos with that. I love mine.
It's like I've watched a movie about deep space travels with OST by Hans-Zimmer
Think I preferred A personally but they were close.
If this tells me one thing, then that its always more about the musician than the instrument. I couldn't sound nearly as good on either.
Sublime :-)
I bought this ob-e vst - and think the arps sound great - its v easy to get an excellent result. I also have a SEM patchbay - but man .... this sounds better !!! Obviously its not analogue - but in terms of just get going with 8 modules of the sem its just so easy ... I know its not as bright as my SEM but it does sound very pleasant to the ear and lets face it - your average person cant tell the difference - and if you asked me to identify a SEM or a vst from within a track with other instruments going I really could nt tell.
I guessed wrong, liked the Gforce one better :)
Wow
What happened to “I’ll reveal the truth 10 days after the launch of the video”?
Life outside this rectangular box is what happened... ;-)
Find the result in my most recent comment.
B scheint mir etwas lauter zu sein.
Definitiv ist B an einigen Stellen lauter, an anderen dafür A. Wie in der englischsprachigen Videobeschreibung erklärt, ist es bei der hier angewendeten Vorgehensweise nahezu unmöglich, Lautstärke und sonstige Einstellungen exakt und vor allem konstant zwischen beiden Systemen abzugleichen. Der originale 8-Voice, wie auch mein "Multitrack-8Voice" besteht aus 8 separaten Monosynthesizern und ich ändere im Verlauf des Stückes ständig dynamisch die Klangfarbe. Das muss nun zwangsläufig händisch an jedem Synthesizer einzeln erfolgen und zwar in 8 Durchläufen, jeweils für eine einzelne Stimme. Das kann zwangsläufig nur eine Annäherung werden. ;-)
Nice Melody. With a far Tony Banks´ taste from late 1970s... PS. A sounds best most of the time...
so which is A and which is B. The music is magical
A is hardware
Fully lost track of which is which. LOL!
I do wonder how Brainworx bx_oberhausen compares, now that you're running this comparison.