Great instruction once again. You are being a huge help to shooters out there, your descriptions and explanations are easy to understand. as I have told you,, I'm a pistol guy now, However, Natural Point of aim is just as important in the sport of outdoor bullseye shooting. it is a huge thing when shooting one-handed. -Dave
Thanks so much for this making this video. You are a good teacher. I transitioned from irons to a 4x this year and found that holds and wobble that may have been acceptable under irons looked really rough under the magnification of the optic, psyching me out for sure. Think it was more mental than anything. This was an great review of adjusting NPA for each stage as that principle didn't change with the equipment.
Hey Konrad, Me again. Thanks for another very helpful video. You mention about twisting your torso to move your spine slightly for minor horizontal adjustments. I get that and understand exactly what you are saying but it brings up another issue that I don’t really know how to deal with. I purchased a hard back coat and am struggling with 2 issues. It seems like my pulse issues have increased 3-fold but more frustratingly is how it creeps up during prone slow fire to the point that several times I’ve had to break position get up on my knees in order to get the coat pulled down. It pushes so hard against my head that I can’t maintain a proper sight picture. Anyway maybe a subject for a future video. Thanks again, Joe
Right on time! I wish I could stretch my support arm out to the swivel in prone, might just have to ask Santa for monkey arms this Christmas :D On a serious note, I'm discovering that the ever important follow through goes hand in hand with NPoA. As I move through a string of slow fire, it is often difficult to perceive (or remember to check) changes in NPoA but with a solid follow through I notice those subtle changes more often and can then reacquire my NPoA. Thank you again for sharing your experience with us.
I take a contrarian view regarding the concept of "follow through". In my opinion, since it affects the rifle after the bullet is already gone, trying to improve follow through is useless. The focus should be on tasks that take place before the shot is fired like relaxing the support arm and confirming/adjusting natural point of aim.
@@konrad1853 Interesting! What you are saying makes perfect sense. Perhaps its one of those high power myths that continues to be perpetuated by the masses? Since i am a novice, I do think that "follow through" helps me when dry firing in that it I see how much a disturb the rifle when the shot "breaks" but perhaps that is just in my head. Thanks again.
Thank you, Konrad and very good video. I lot of good take aways for me. NPA prone, and 6:41 to 7:10 Horiz NPA shift by repositioning hips and tension of shooting coat - Great idea and I will have to try that. Thx again, FletchMan PS - Would like to know how many mags you use in an Across the Course Match, and how you organize them.
I take 5 magazines to a match. One is an old magazine that isn't reliable for rapid-fire any more so I only use it for slow fire. The other four are loaded for rapid-fire the night before. After sitting, by the time I get to 300, the mags are reloaded for rapid prone. Each rapid-fire magazine is numbered. So if I ever have any problems with them I can note the number and decide if I need to pull that one out of the rotation.
@@konrad1853 - I shot my first XTC club match and here were the results: 200 Yards - Offhand Slow Fire = 81/100 1X ; 200 Yards - Sitting Rapid Fire = 92/100 ; 300 Yards - Prone Rapid Fire = 95/100 1X ; 600 Yards - Prone Slow Fire = 171-2X; Overall 439/500 4X ; My scope dope for drop was fairly good, but at 300 I had to come up a few more clicks, else I would have had a few more 10's; The wind picked up and fishtailed some on the 600 late in the morning. Kept shifting from S to S/W. (3 o'clck) Once it died totally. I used Jim Owens 223 charts for 69 grn SMK HPBT. Fairly good, but I did not quite put enough on it, many shots got pushed left. Had a blast and overall. Oh - my NPA was very dialed in. Pulse not as much of an issue on dirt as on concrete. Go figure. Once again, thank you for the videos and keep them coming. Tight Groups, FletchMan
Could you do one on sight picture with irons, specifically in the context of how the 200/300/600 yard targets appear in relation to the front sight post?
Cameron, I shot service rifle for 15 years, what I did was center the front post in the rear aperture ( Like you see in so many depictions of how it should look). after that, when I shot standing, I used a 6 o'clock hold, then for rapid-fire I used a center hold (Frontsight in the black and the shot will be in the black) then at the 600-yard slow fire I used the 6 o'clock hold once again. In slow-fire you have a lot of time, in standing, you can shoulder then un- shoulder the rifle and in prone you can look away then readjust your eyes getting the sharpest image of the front sight. on rapid, that is a different story. I keep in mind, (Front sight in the black, shot in the black) and mash the trigger with a hard hold with NPA- I know this is my way of doing it, there are others and my way may not be the best for you. take it or leave it. I hope this was some help to you-Dave
Center hold (or center-of-mass) means you put the top edge of the front post across the very middle of the sighting black. Theoretically you would only see the top half of the sighting black above the post but because you should be focusing on the front sight you'll see more of a grey mass. 6 o'clock hold is where you put the top edge of the front sight at the bottom edge of the sighting black. Again, since you should be focusing on the front sight, the image won't be as clean as this description.
@@konrad1853 thanks for the reply. Sorry, my question wasn't clear: I meant why switch sight pictures for the different stages rather than stick with one?
I started highpower using a six o'clock hold in all stages. After about 10 years I thought that a center-of-mass sight picture would be beneficial for faster decision-making in standing. But using two different sight pictures during a match seemed like more than I wanted to deal with. So I changed to a center hold for all stages and that's what I used for the rest of my time with iron sights.
In highpower, we shoot standing at 200 yards. The NRA SR target has a 7" 10-ring. The cant is key to bringing the rifle to my face instead of the other way around. A natural position of the head is best. Straining for the eye to reach the scope will lead to larger groups.
I've seen some competitors that have the scope axis canted to offset their natural canted rifle position. There are many options to deal with the issue of a fairly common service rifle design to fit many sizes and shapes of people.
Love your instructional videos.
Very informative and much appreciated.
Love the standing swing adjustment, will try that this week.
Nice to have you back. Very good explanation, straight forward and concise. I just got back to the range and this is just what I needed. Thank you
The coat tension NPA adjustment technique helped me gain a few points in standing. Thanks for the tip!
Glad it helped!
Great instruction once again. You are being a huge help to shooters out there, your descriptions and explanations are easy to understand. as I have told you,, I'm a pistol guy now, However, Natural Point of aim is just as important in the sport of outdoor bullseye shooting. it is a huge thing when shooting one-handed. -Dave
Thanks so much for this making this video. You are a good teacher. I transitioned from irons to a 4x this year and found that holds and wobble that may have been acceptable under irons looked really rough under the magnification of the optic, psyching me out for sure. Think it was more mental than anything. This was an great review of adjusting NPA for each stage as that principle didn't change with the equipment.
Hey Konrad,
Me again. Thanks for another very helpful video.
You mention about twisting your torso to move your spine slightly for minor horizontal adjustments. I get that and understand exactly what you are saying but it brings up another issue that I don’t really know how to deal with. I purchased a hard back coat and am struggling with 2 issues. It seems like my pulse issues have increased 3-fold but more frustratingly is how it creeps up during prone slow fire to the point that several times I’ve had to break position get up on my knees in order to get the coat pulled down. It pushes so hard against my head that I can’t maintain a proper sight picture.
Anyway maybe a subject for a future video.
Thanks again, Joe
Is the coat buckled all the way in prone? I only use the top two buckles for this position because of the problem that you noted.
Right on time! I wish I could stretch my support arm out to the swivel in prone, might just have to ask Santa for monkey arms this Christmas :D
On a serious note, I'm discovering that the ever important follow through goes hand in hand with NPoA. As I move through a string of slow fire, it is often difficult to perceive (or remember to check) changes in NPoA but with a solid follow through I notice those subtle changes more often and can then reacquire my NPoA.
Thank you again for sharing your experience with us.
I take a contrarian view regarding the concept of "follow through". In my opinion, since it affects the rifle after the bullet is already gone, trying to improve follow through is useless. The focus should be on tasks that take place before the shot is fired like relaxing the support arm and confirming/adjusting natural point of aim.
@@konrad1853 Interesting! What you are saying makes perfect sense. Perhaps its one of those high power myths that continues to be perpetuated by the masses? Since i am a novice, I do think that "follow through" helps me when dry firing in that it I see how much a disturb the rifle when the shot "breaks" but perhaps that is just in my head.
Thanks again.
As always, fantastic video.
Another great video, Konrad! Since you are doing requests, can you do one on reading wind through mirage and bullet trace?
I've had that one on my list for a while. I just have to find the right conditions to record.
Thank you, Konrad and very good video. I lot of good take aways for me. NPA prone, and 6:41 to 7:10 Horiz NPA shift by repositioning hips and tension of shooting coat - Great idea and I will have to try that. Thx again, FletchMan PS - Would like to know how many mags you use in an Across the Course Match, and how you organize them.
I take 5 magazines to a match. One is an old magazine that isn't reliable for rapid-fire any more so I only use it for slow fire. The other four are loaded for rapid-fire the night before. After sitting, by the time I get to 300, the mags are reloaded for rapid prone. Each rapid-fire magazine is numbered. So if I ever have any problems with them I can note the number and decide if I need to pull that one out of the rotation.
@@konrad1853 - I shot my first XTC club match and here were the results: 200 Yards - Offhand Slow Fire = 81/100 1X ; 200 Yards - Sitting Rapid Fire = 92/100 ; 300 Yards - Prone Rapid Fire = 95/100 1X ; 600 Yards - Prone Slow Fire = 171-2X; Overall 439/500 4X ; My scope dope for drop was fairly good, but at 300 I had to come up a few more clicks, else I would have had a few more 10's; The wind picked up and fishtailed some on the 600 late in the morning. Kept shifting from S to S/W. (3 o'clck) Once it died totally. I used Jim Owens 223 charts for 69 grn SMK HPBT. Fairly good, but I did not quite put enough on it, many shots got pushed left. Had a blast and overall. Oh - my NPA was very dialed in. Pulse not as much of an issue on dirt as on concrete. Go figure. Once again, thank you for the videos and keep them coming. Tight Groups, FletchMan
Could you do one on sight picture with irons, specifically in the context of how the 200/300/600 yard targets appear in relation to the front sight post?
Cameron, I shot service rifle for 15 years, what I did was center the front post in the rear aperture ( Like you see in so many depictions of how it should look). after that, when I shot standing, I used a 6 o'clock hold, then for rapid-fire I used a center hold (Frontsight in the black and the shot will be in the black) then at the 600-yard slow fire I used the 6 o'clock hold once again. In slow-fire you have a lot of time, in standing, you can shoulder then un- shoulder the rifle and in prone you can look away then readjust your eyes getting the sharpest image of the front sight. on rapid, that is a different story. I keep in mind, (Front sight in the black, shot in the black) and mash the trigger with a hard hold with NPA- I know this is my way of doing it, there are others and my way may not be the best for you. take it or leave it. I hope this was some help to you-Dave
@@Thorsaxe777 thanks for the info. Why the difference between center hold vs 6 o clock?
Center hold (or center-of-mass) means you put the top edge of the front post across the very middle of the sighting black. Theoretically you would only see the top half of the sighting black above the post but because you should be focusing on the front sight you'll see more of a grey mass.
6 o'clock hold is where you put the top edge of the front sight at the bottom edge of the sighting black. Again, since you should be focusing on the front sight, the image won't be as clean as this description.
@@konrad1853 thanks for the reply. Sorry, my question wasn't clear: I meant why switch sight pictures for the different stages rather than stick with one?
I started highpower using a six o'clock hold in all stages. After about 10 years I thought that a center-of-mass sight picture would be beneficial for faster decision-making in standing. But using two different sight pictures during a match seemed like more than I wanted to deal with. So I changed to a center hold for all stages and that's what I used for the rest of my time with iron sights.
I'm not sure of the target sizes and distances of high power matches, but that seems like a lot of rifle cant in that standing position.
In highpower, we shoot standing at 200 yards. The NRA SR target has a 7" 10-ring. The cant is key to bringing the rifle to my face instead of the other way around. A natural position of the head is best. Straining for the eye to reach the scope will lead to larger groups.
I've seen some competitors that have the scope axis canted to offset their natural canted rifle position. There are many options to deal with the issue of a fairly common service rifle design to fit many sizes and shapes of people.