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This guy is UK version of Darren from Auto Fetish Detail. Appreciate both of you buys plethora of knowledge and willingness to share.
Saw this on a video:
Add car shampoo to a spray bottle diluted with water... and spray it to the wash mitt after every rinse.
That way you have maximum lubrication and 100% of the car shampoo’s capabilities after every wash-rinse cycle!
Well said. I use have always used the 1 bucket method rinsing the mitt with fresh tap water on a jet setting. I have never understood all the hype regarding the 2 bucket method as for sure it will not clean the mitt as effectively.
I discovered this method myself recently, had the two buckets ready but decided to blow the mitt clean with the hose. I've never felt comfortable with dunking the mitt into a muddy rinse bucket. The bonus is I have a small can and use less water by rinsing the mitt.
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I've done this method for over 10 years with the 1 bucket and rinse. Here's the reason why I've gone to multiple mits and why i will never go back to 1 mit again.
!!!TIME!!!
I simply can't express how much time you save by using multiple mits.
There's also the fact that there will be a few heavy sticky particles that don't come off the mit easily when spraying it off with the hose. When you notice these particles on your mit, you'll have to spend extra time trying trying to pick them off with your other hand which extends your overall time.
All in all you could have simply used a fresh mit for the next panel and continue washing your car instead of the 1 mit.
I could not agree more. The method in this video is silly.
I use 6 mitts for my SUV:
- 1 for rear
- 2 for side doors (1 per side)
- 1 for roof
- 1 for hood
- 1 for front fenders an front.
I fill my bucket half way with water, add shampoo (CarPro Reset), dunk the mitts, fill up with more water using Pressure washer to activate shampoo. After using each mitt, they go to a separate empty bucket which will then go to the washing machine (I wash my car biweekly).
I like this method, will try it and the wash pads. I hate having 2 heavy buckets to drag around the car. Better then to have one wash bucket on each side of the car. Most important to me is to get the car as clean as possible before even touching the paint. BH Auto Foam works really well especially on a dirtier car.
Jon, I could not agree more about the two bucket method and grit guards do not guarantee that you're keeping dirty water off the clear coat. I personally use one large 3 gallon bucket, but load six to seven channel microfiber noodle type wash mitts into the bucket and let all of them soak and get happy in the wash solution. When I start my wash, I use both sides of one mitt on a panel. Once that mitt is soiled, I throw it in a separate bucket. I keep using the other six mitts until my entire car is washed, never dipping a soiled mitt back into my clean wash bucket. I even go as far as putting black wash mitts in the bottom of the bucket, since I wash my wheels, tires, exhaust tips and wheel arches as the last step after cleaning the paintwork. That way, only the black mitts will ever be used for the dirty dirty areas. I will never put a soiled mitt back in my clean shampoo solution, so the water never gets dirty. I also try the buy light colored mitts to see if there is any contamination in the mitts when I begin the wash process. At the end of the wash, I take my second bucket of dirty wash mitts and dump them in the wash machine using Chemical Guys Micro Fiber Wash. It doesn't matter if you're machine washing one mitt or ten. There is no extra work involved. Your cheap Chinese mitts would be perfect for this method, especially since you have a big bag of them. This is the fastest method and leaves no chance for cross contamination. Try it and let me know what you think! Great video as always!
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I like the idea of that! I'm gonna try it.
Steve Greer Wish I would have done a video of my carwash this Sunday.
I hadn't washed the car in 6 months (went through the snow and all that) and I used 2 buckets and 1 grout sponge. I put 2 oz of soap and 1 oz of ONR in one bucket and water in the other.
At the end the water bucket was black as heck and the soap bucket still looked very clear (was it 100 clear no of course not).
To top it off every time my sponge left the bucket to go on rhe car you could see how clean it was with no dirt tapped in it.
Someone told me about using grout sponges to was the car, and Iv never looked back. Traps the dirt and don't scratch when washing, but when you dunk and scrub on the grit guard it releases the dirt perfectly.
I already use a single bucket method and a short pile Meguires MF sponge, just hosing the sponge face off every pass [1 to 2meter swipe on each side] before redunking for soap. I believe it works great. Has to be a short pile though because the longer piles just hold the dirt too well and you can't quite seem to flush the dirt out. I still use a grit guard and still at the end of the wash there is a tiny bit of dirt in the bottom, but FAR LESS than using a 2 bucket method!.
Around 28minutes he shows a single panel wash, or the door and front guard... I would have rinsed the mitt 4 times to do that area! Maybe a bit more paranoid?
But, I'm sold on the idea of 6~10 of those Chinese mitts and pre-loading the bucket with them for single use! Fantastic comment and tip, thanks!
Has anyone done this with the Adam’s wash pad? I personally don’t like Adam’s for the two bucket, I wonder how it work with this method (scratching, etc)
Great Video, FDC.. I have done 1-2 even 3 (two rinse) bucket methods.. 2 grit guards in every bucket.. Honestly giving all the credit to APEX Detailing..Brian is a real force! He uses 2 buckets with multiple mitts, tossing used mits in rinse bucket (to wash later) thereby never putting a dirty mitt in the soap wash bucket. This idea is so simplistic yet genius, and makes so much sense. I use mitts but as you say 1.20 a pea or quid or whatever that stuff is..lol (America here) its just crazy not to use multiple ones at such a cheap price. This method never introduces dirt back into the soap giving the added benefit (sealable bucket lid) of reusing your leftover soap. Having multiple vehicles I found this to be especially cost effective for maniacs like me that wash their rides 2 or more times a week.. Keep up the great videos!
I've been detailing for ~10 years and I rarely use 2 buckets. I've never once put a scratch on a car or felt like I was worse off using only one bucket. Its all about technique and care of your equipment
Really enjoy your reviews! In my opinion, you are one of BEST reviewers of detailing products across the entire CZcams community. You are "down to earth" and give your honest opinions. You also freely admit when you don't know something or you just have an idea about something but make no claims whatsoever other than your own experiences with the products you review which is very informative, honest, and refreshing in my opinion. I've watched as many of your videos as I can on my time off and i've actually purchased quite a few of the recommended products and have had good luck with pretty much ALL of them! That's good reviewing! I particularly liked this video about the ONE bucket method versus two. I agree with your ideas on this subject 100%. There are pluses and minuses to both the two bucket (if done correctly) and your one bucket method. I personally like YOUR method with the one bucket. I too agree that many times, the grit guards just don't work as they advertise. The idea is great, but honestly there is too much grit in the water for them to be 100% effective. I'd give them a 50% effective the majority of the time. But personally, I like your idea of rising the MITT with a strong stream of water FIRST, then get more soapy water on the mitt. I also agree with using a soap that is as SLIPPERY as you can possibly get it. I'm going to try that No Rinse additive from Optimum Polymer Technologies for sure. I've read a ton about that soap but crazily, I've never tried it. Don't know why. I do use several of their products including their Hyper Compound, Hyper Polish, and Opti-Bond dressing, all of which are good products.
Finally, one SUGGESTION. Why don't you either paint or put up a decal behind you in your garage advertising your channel? I notice you have that great white painted area directly above your Telivision set in garage which would be a fantastic spot for a sign which says "FORENSIC DETAILING CHANNEL". Just an idea sir. After watching about 15 of your videos this afternoon (i was off today....LOL) I thought to myself...."Why doesn't he put a nice colorful sign above that TV that advertises his channel? Anyway, just an idea to promote your incredible channel. Keep up the great work sir, you are one of the best on CZcams in the area of reviewing Detailing Products in real world situations.
Oh, finally. I have to thank you. I got the biggest laugh today watching your video of the review you did on the air fresheners. Seeing you in that car in the gogles and face mask and the expressions you were giving and seeing all that spray inside was SO FUNNY! Good gosh I laughed. That was the best laugh I have had in a while. You definitely lightened my day with that one. Good work mate on that one. It was spot on. I had a slight flash back to Benny Hill. It's something he would have done. My Dad used to love Benny Hill when I was a kid. Take care Benny......LOL
thanks for taking the time to say this joe.. appreciate it very much.. your right you know.. a forensic detailing sign is a really good idea.. just everything costs money or time to make up its hard to find time to shoot the videos at the moment..
Benny hill makes me laugh as well. anything slap stick... peter sellers :)
I use the same one bucket method except I use a pressure washer with a short gun (MTM 407) and the bucket has very little to no dirt in it at the end, whereas with the two bucket method there will be much more dirt in the wash bucket. I always wash the wheels first with a separate bucket and brushes and wash mitt. I keep all wheel stuff separate to avoid contaminating the paint with metal and brake dust.
If you ordered 10 wash mitts why don't you change out the wash mitt for a fresh one after every panel rather than using 1 mitt and rinsing it out every panel.
you could do that.. but I just find rinsing out the wash mitt get it clean... its just less hardcore I think some people find it a bit wierd using 10 mitts.. but yer it would work
@@ForensicDetailing Um. No. Using 10 mitts to insure a scratch free wash is professional and expedient.Rinse out your mitts on your own time, at home, not on your clients time when you are washing their car. This was like watching my dad try to improve on laying cement by mixing the dry and wet elements in the form on the ground. DUMB
@@mv5203 Totally agree.
@@mv5203 kinda tryhard mate you won't scratch paint if you know what you're doing
If you are looking for a super soft brush, have a look for a Silver Tip Badger shaving brush. The hair isn't trimmed to shape like hogs hair, so each fibre tapers to a fine point. You can pick them up for less than £20.00 from China on eBay. I use an old one for washing around badges, add a tiny drop of detergent to the centre for epic and endless creamy foam.
I think this method works great. I’ve always used 1 bucket and wash my mit with the hose or power washer 2 or 3 times a wash
I feel like some of those pros are a bit silly there is no reason why you couldn’t apply most of those things to the two bucket method I use the £1 buckets and cheap mitts all day long with the two bucket method and I don’t have any issues I also rinse out my mitt, just a thought
My Grit Guard mostly just sits on a shelf these days. We share VERY similar views. I don't bother with the expensive wheel thingies! haha. - Also, I use a similar method to your one bucket, and like a couple of others have said. I use a cheap bucket with a lid (to just sit on top while I'm washing the car, keeps contaminants out). And I use multiple wash mitts, 6-8. You can save more time by NOT rinsing the mitt, and instead just discard for washing later, and replace it with another clean one. PLUS, less chance of bringing back some dirt into the soap bucket. Great video. This one is your funniest.. Thank you!
cheers BB :)
Lived on a farm in the hills of Western Australia overlooking Perth, driveway was 400mtr long of gravel and mud long so imagine winter time, I always used the one bucket, garden hose method and never had swirls or scratch marks for the last thirty years, never understood fully the two bucket method, as the Forensic Detailing advised, if your mit/sponge (sponge does not leave scratches or swirls) gets dirty rinse with the garden hose then place in bucket of soap. works every time and save you time.
Hi mate...I been a mobile detailer for 4 years and early on I used a swiss Vax detailing brush to clean some dust from interior clear coated plastics and to my horror they scratched the surface. So I mentioned to my flatemate that I needed some softer brushes and she went out and bought me a make up kit believe it or not. It came in a roll like for tools and was bright pink. God bless her. Anyway I gave them a go and got to say they work really well. Soft as a babies bum and the hairs don't pull out as with some cheap art brushes. There are about 20 different sized brushes along with some pipe cleaning brushes which I used for inbetween the seats and console when the vacuum can't fit. I would never have thought of buying them but I'm still using them. Sure I still use the stiffer brushes for other areas, but if your looking for soft it's worth considering. Maybe "borrow" one of the wife's. Also, I use this method for my contracted weekly business customers who put 8 or so cars through a week. They don't care about micro scratches they just want the job done as quick as possible to keep costs down.
hey there, I use the soft make up ones for inside.. but im really looking for decent quality ones for outside that are a bit better/softer than these average hogg hairs cheap ones... but are also cheap in price!! :)
Ah yes...The old... I want to live in the penthouse but pay ground floor rates. You might want to look for a soft/medium bristled paint brush and cut to length. Or make your own. Good luck and good hunting from down under.
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Thank you Jon great video as always :) I use 1 bucket method always , I will use two buckets when the car is very dirty then will be Wash+Wash buckets no bucket for rinse , one bucket for washing in driver side and another for passenger side , I used AF Citrus Power as prewash but I feel is very strong in LSP I think Valet pro Citrus Prewash or Powermaxed Jet wash & wax can helps to remove dirts in lower panels before start washing .
Àm so glad I took the time to watch this vid as I was about to buy into the 2 bucket method even though it's expensive for what you get - so glad I haven't wasted my money !!! You just make so much sense & common sense to me. Your process explanation couldn't have been clearer & the demo on your van proves the point. Love the added tips too (like adding ONR).
You views & recommendations are becoming very trustworthy after just watching & trying a couple of your tips, thank you. The challenge now is to drag myself away from years of using Autoglym almost exclusively as I've *not* seen you recommend one of their products in the 2016 awards vid or mention them elsewhere so far? Your advice is valued as you come across as a straight-up, no nonsense guy, so will use up what remains of my Autoglym arsenal then try your 2016 'gold award' products one by one.
Keep up the good work, it is appreciated from this end. The only positive criticism that could be offered is to try to bring the average vid length down without losing tat all important core content. Sometimes there is too much detail in there that doesn't really add to the quality of what your are doing & maybe you may sometimes lose some of your intended audience.
I've watched about ten videos about washing a car, and this method makes most sense to me. I bought four mits, might get one more and just use the multi clothe method. It seems the easiest and most practical. The two bucket method seems time consuming. Multiple mits are not that costly.
I only use 1 bucket no grit gaurd, I use about 5 wash mitts. Each one gets a section and goes in the wash. Half the buckets, half the water and zero contamination.
Just a quick update. I am No Fan of this method, tried it yesterday and didn't help me dunking the Lamswool mitt into the soapy bucket without rinsing. My head must of been telling me that I'm still 2 buckets! With full follow up I think it took me as long and the results weren't too pretty even after a coat of Beadmaker. Just cant help thinking I need my Polar Blast and Polar wash (which I've yet to try). Anyway what finished it (nice sunny day) took the wife out for a walk parked then she got out looked at the car and started making comments including 'waterspots' streaky windscreen thats before she got to the wheels. Commenting on brakedust behind the alloys and more dreaded waterspots. We've been married 20 years and I'm fairly new to detailing, her car went through Tesco's car wash (not anymore) and that was it. For me the works van got the car wash treatment before an earlier retirement present Beemer mineral grey. Her only detailing comment in the past was she thought Jon's voice sounded nice as it aided sleep. Her last comment was you better get the full kit out today and start again! Bollxxxs I wait until everything gets a bit cooler and dirtier first!
Not sure if Beadmaker is forever for me. Definitely smooth silky touch but don't last too long and can't honestly say I think the finish is better than Meguirs Ultimate liquid wax. My next steps is to buy a DA polisher but sadly is on hold until my customers come back.
Thanks for your videos, it's a learning experience to go from a bucket and a sponge to using decent products, mitts and microfiber cloths. The difference in the finish is incredible, I couldn't believe how clean the wash water was at the end! Keep up the great work.
great to hear charlie thanks for watching mate...
I’m pleased to hear this. I was thinking about buying two buckets, but the price! For two blooming buckets! I think this is more up my street. Will check out your cheap Chinese wash mitts too. Your comments about women drivers, esp. alloys made me chuckle. We try our best to keep their cars in good nick, despite themselves. 👍🏻
Thank you very much for this knowledge. I had always been doing the 1 bucket method without rinsing the mitt each time before dunking for more soap. The same reason applies as I am washing personal cars and I am too lazy to break out a ton of equipment just for a weekend wash. Your addition of hosing the the mitt before picking up more soap just solved the excess dirt part of the 1 bucket equation. Thank you for the knowledge sharing!
Personally I enjoy your videos as while it is lengthy, you make your videos like an actual conversation with full of meaningful information. Keep up the good work!
one thing - I use grit guard mainly to trap dirt and prevent water from stirring in a rinse bucket. I scrub the mitt with my other hand while dunked in the rinse bucket. I very rarely scrub the mitt against the grit guard itself...
cool point jan.. I just find running over it with your hand doesnt really open out the fibers and get the dirt out well...
I use a similar method already, I've been too scared to voice it up in case the two bucket warriors hated on me! With regards to the brushes i took the plunge and bought the Auto finesse hogs hair set, my only concern was the plastic sleeves tend to crack and come off easily although the the bristles are will fixed in with resin. My most recent purchase was the swissvax wooden handle type. Seems up to the job so far.
I've done this a few times now and am very happy with it as a method. Watching the jet slice the dirt off the short pile is very satisfying. Using only a small bucket, I have noticed that the washing water stays very clean. I think this is as good as, potentially better than, the traditional two bucket method. The Hozelock multispray is an excellent tool in it's own right. Trouble is, what do I do with those two massive buckets in my garage?
the best method and ONLY method IMO is the 1-bucket method with 5 wash mitts. 1 for the hood and front grill and bumber, 1 for the roof, 1 for the deck lid and rear bumber, 1 for the left side of the car and 1 for the right side of the car. After you use each one, toss it to the side and move to the next mitt. If you do it this way then you are guaranteed to not transfer contaminants from the bucket back to the car. The wash water will be as clean when you are done as when you started. Those grit guards only get about 80%-90% of the contaminants from your mitt. If you are skeptical then give it a try my way and then the 2 bucket method. Your wash bucket will still have dirt and contaminants in it when your done using the 2 bucket method with those grit guards.
Why not load you bucket with 10 mitts soaked use one at a time and discard? Thanks for your effort.
could do this John.. Totally viable.. not sure why I dont actually.
John O'Mahoney Great idea John ! I’ll be trying this on my next wash . 👍
once again I have to agree with you with the two method bucket I prefer to use the one bucket method and the hosepipe the old fashioned way my reason for saying this I just use clean water from the hosepipe to rinse the dirt off my microfiber cloth instead of using the two method bucket I find it a lot more easier and safer
I know this video is a few years old now, but i have only just this past week, sat down and thought about the 1 bucket method properly and come to the conclusion that it is safer,easier method.
Been doing the 2bm for years but i have finally seen the light, but iam doing it slightly different to you on this video.
1 bucket with shampoo/water and use multiple mitts, do a panel or so then put that used mitt to one side and grab another clean fresh mitt, that way no crap goes in your bucket whatsoever, so from start ro finish your water will be 100% clean and as you mentioned in this video their is still a good chance with the 2bm to still have crud in your mitt, no matter how much squeezing and rinsing you do.
No gritt guard needed, only 1 bucket to lug around and fill up, no multiple dunking etc its better in more ways than 1, wish i did it sooner.
Also took a liking to snowfoaming the shampoo on the car also, aswell as in the bucket, just makes the contact wash more enjoyable and more lubricated.
jason mennie one bucket works great if car isn’t filthy and you rinse most the dirt off first.
I use the hose or power washer and rinse my mit prob3 times every wash. Takes 5 seconds
If the car is dirty enough I’ll be snow foaming and power washing on high pressure to get off most the dirt
I would also highly advise to take the time and get the car crystal clean and coat the hell out of it with a geon wet coat type product and you don’t even have to put in much effort washing it
jason mennie a good coating of geon wet coat on the wheels ....I just powerwash them and the dirt runs off...amazing
Hi mate,I started watching this video to be able to wash my vw t5 van the best I possibly can in the shortest amount of time.....(as I've converted it into a camper)so to see you washing a t5 was a total win win.....a very good vid in my opinion,and I look forward to watching more very helpful.....cheers Paul
thing with my van (i sold it now) it was such a workhorse it didnt need some carefully wash method.. I just needed something safe and fast.. without getting all the gear out etc.. so thats kind of why I started washing this way..
If your T5 is a minter and valuable. The sky is the limit you could do slow carefull washes etc.. but this 1 bucket method does kind of deliver actually.. (much better for summer) cheers bro for feeding back
I'm still a 2 bucket wash guy and agree with everything you say. The 2 grit guards in rinse bucket is defo a good idea.
What you could do for the ultimate safe wash if you have a pride and joy in perfect nick would be to employ all the tactics together. 2 buckets, 2 guards in one, use onr to soften the water and Also use the hose to rinse the mitt before it goes in the rinse bucket to minimise the rinse bucket dirt.
Adam Freeman what is dunking you mitt into a bucket adding if you're blowing the mitt clean with the hose?
Adam Freeman's suggestion is adding an extra layer of safety 😊 (just in case)
Duking the mitt after hosing doesn't make sense, why not hose for longer. Its like having a shower then getting into a bath.
Bill Ding it's just all about doing absolutely everything possible to minimise damage to the car, even if it removes 3 more small
dirt particles dunking it's at least something
A new mitt for each pass is the safest way (for the crazy).
I wish i found you when I first started getting into detailing!!
I love having a clean and well polished car, but I'm also time strapped. So iv always been on the hunt for the best of both worlds (of course comes with compromises) but i can enjoy my nicely paint corrected car and still not spend hours trying to keep it looking at its best and worrying! More time doesn't always mean a proper wash to slowly void all my hard work.
Brilliant!! Also I love the level of detail you go into!
Big thank you!
Just saw this video and i think you are thinking out of the washbox😄 i bought myself one gritguard Bucket and a gritguard and the short haired gyeon washmitt, Because i wanted that and like it. But i prefer also a pistol rinse way, instead of a second bucket. I think two or three mitts is better for wheels and dirty downsides of the car, and spray them clean intead of 2 buckets. I understand that people buy the buckets Because some products you just want to have because no reason. But i like to give it a twist like you do. Clear video for beginners!
here is what I do to get rid of the micro particles off of the mitt. I hook the loop of the wash mitt on to the back of the windscreen wash wiper and then wash the mitt with the pressure washer. I can get by with the 1 bucket method. what do others think?
More people need to listen to you in the detailing industry... Having 30 steps to weekly wash a car is just crazy to me. I always try to do a good effective wash without spending 2hours of preps+wash+putting everything back in the garage. And i also use in my rinse bucket a vertical grit (bough at my hardware store) to wash my mit properly, then wring it out.
I think i am going to try your method, just because it makes it so cheap, safe, and practical.
Keep up the good work my friend, plus i always laugh at your jokes, might be the british accent lol
i knew someone would fine me funny!!!! even if it was only one person! :)
About your review of ONR, what's your opinion on using it as a quick detailer at 1/16 ratio? Could it be a great product for removing light dirt, fresh bird poop and stuff like that?
ive not used it as a detail spray.. ill have a play.. Im wondering if the product is siloxane based?
This is a great video, this is def the best way to wash a car using the 1 bucket method. Infact i will do the same , lugging about two buckets with grit guards etc doesnt guarantee grit free. I really like this method with using a hose. Ive ordered 10 of them cheap wash mitts that you have recommended to use from amazon. Ive also got a metrovac side kick filtered warm air blower that i use which works pretty well.
Takes me back to the days before I stumbled across detailing world using only one bucket. The two bucket wash is an essential part of a paintwork safe wash. Like you said after spending a few days perfecting paintwork the last thing you will want to do is a shoddy wash job! Forget rineless wash and so called "eco" detailing. P.S I had to like to take this video to 100 likes!
Who gives a shit about having sanitary drinking water when you can have a clean car, am i right?
Great video!!! Totally agree with you. How many times have you ended up rinsing the filthy wash mitt anyway in that two bucket disaster!!! Not to mention the strain it puts on your back!!!
I picked up them chinese wash mitts from amazon you suggested and they arrived today. only about 1.40 each so I purchased 10 of them. They are decent quality, i see what you mean about the pile of the wash mitt, its a lot lower than my other meguiars microfibre one. look forward to trying them out.
Totally agree on the issue of gritguard vs scratchshield. Starting to see gritguards coming down in price to around £6 each as well!
thats cool tarby 6 pounds is a bit more reasonable isnt it
Forensic Detailing Channel yeah, replacing my scratch guard ones with them as those things are useless (as well demonstrated in your vid). Spend more time putting them back together than washing the car! Autorocket on eBay is doing 2 gritguards for £10.99!
This method makes a lot of sense, especially for a daily driver. I'd probably use more the multiple mitts with a single pass if working on a high end vehicle or if my paint was perfect. Another great video! And the women can't drive bit made my day! LOL
cheers Rich appreciate it mate.
I recommend the Braun Automotive detailing brush. The same people that make the wheel woolies, check them out.
thanks for that will check it out.
I second that, awesome brush.
just ordered 5 of them mits following your link cheers, £1.49 each at the mo, just seen on one of the sites in china just over a quid, if you were to buy in bulk...the 30/50 del would not be so bad lol.
spent some hours watching these vids and I've got to say that this guy is amazing. usually I want to get to the point, but this guy is far from boring. keep up the excellent work.
quick question. just bought a new focus st and paid 400 to have a paint protection put on. ford says I can wash and polish as normal but I'm unsure. Also doing the two bucket I've managed to scratch the bonnet slightly and worried about polishing it out with the paint protection "stuff on it. any thoughts.
my car is stealth grey not metallic.
cheers marko... an abrasive polish will almost certainly strip the dealers special sealant (I put almost certainly as a disclaimer as I dont know exactly what they have used but I have a pretty good idea)
Cheers for the response. A friend tells me it's Diamondbrite. Apparently I was ripped off. If you can think what's best. Was going to use Oblivion or soft99 but worried about how it states *Be sure that your car is compatible with this product in advance. Worrying?
the dealers use it as like a bargining chip.. but yes generally they are overcharging and if you have a reputable detailer in your area they can perhaps give you better advice on other protection offers which offer better value for money..
Ive sat in front of dealership sales guys and had this hard sell of their "protection" packages and they literally will not let it go.. Ive walked away from cars because of the way these clowns try and rip you off..
Cheers for your replies and for the honesty. It's always a learning curve.
If only I found your channel beforehand I'd have saved a fortune , in saying that, my fathers old vectra looks mint. Looking forward to cleaning his engine bay with tips from your new upload.
I'm sure I speak for everyone... keep up the excellent reviews and super easy to understand guide.
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Brilliant video! I always wondered why there hasn’t been a video like this. I always thought that the two bucket method did not make sense as you work with dirty water. What better way than a hose with water pressure to force dirt out of the mitt (clean water too)!
watching your 1 bucket wash give me some idea, but what if you use 1 mitt for 1 area? that way you dont have to rinse it, when it get dirty just get another clean mitt. and drying with a towel make sense to me because it is much larger so much quicker to dry the car, but i would not wipe the water on the pain instead just dab it and laying horizontal panel with towel covering it while i work the rest of the car.
last, i think your explaination make sense, good idea :)
what couldwork buddy yes..
Brilliant, I sadly don’t have the patience or ease to use a pressure washer, so fab, will deffo try this.
I find a one bucket wash works well with a wash pad (currently loving the Adams pad, but applies to Dooka et al) which are a mare to rinse out in a bucket, so I just run the hose on it until it’s clean. Far more effective. So while agree with your method I found the rest of the video quite contradictory, you advocate using a very safe wash technique, then suggest skipping the prewash which would do half the job for you.
if your using ONR in the bucket and dont have thick road film, then yes you could just rinse down. in winter if there was a thick film over the car then soaking out that film with pre wash and pressure washing off etc.. maybe even using 2 buckets if you wanted to might be a better way forward. On the golf I do tend the clean the car more with this method and I dont have any build up of swirls on it.. but on a car I really care about I prolly would not just rinse over with water and dive in with this method.
If you want a quality detailing brush you should get wheel woolies 1.25 inch detailing brush. Graeat quality bristles , super soft and great build quality. CYC has it I think.
thanks Peza for the recomendation
Another take on your method is to drop 5 or 6 of the wash mitts you have into the clean soapy water and use one for each panel flipping it over half way through. Once your finished the panel discard the mitt into another pail to be washed and cleaned later on. Now you can move on to the next panel with a clean mitt from the soap bucket. This way you always start off with a clean mitt and the bucket of soap remains 100% contaminant free.
i do sometimes use a few if they get a bit dirty for sure.. but yer the mitts are so cheap you can throw a load in like you say..
for a brush i love the swissvax ones, there expensive but are really soft and well made.
thx charles
Charles harman auto finesse brushes are awesome as well
Hi Jon I'm a L plated weekend warrior but learning fast thanks to you. OK so I snowfoam and 2 bucket, why cos I bought the things including grit guards and yes I'm a dunker (but not anymore, thank you) also couldn't really get my head around the 2 bucket method other than in principle. OK so the mineral grey beemer was foamed, washed, KSE'd and Beader maker applied 10 days ago. With virtually zero miles covered since then I was able to write clean me on the rear glass owing to all the crap coming off the trees (which are not particulary close). Bit fed up at the thought of dragging all the kit out again when technically its all done. Very happy with the idea of one bucket wash with ONR, bought some on your earlier recommendation but really couldn't bring myself to try it without a pre wash (now I can try it out!). 2 questions is it good to use a rapid detailer all over after each wash and would you recommend using Beadmaker again every time after each wash?
so a good quick detailer will work as a drying aid and allow you to sort of wipe over the panels to bring up some shine.. you can use beadmaker every wash but it works a bit better dry imo.
ONR has a sprung they call the BIG RED SPONGE can you make a video on that?. Thanks
i dont think you can get it in the UK mate
Well I've watched the whole video now and it more than deserved the like! I agree with your method of the one bucket wash and using a hose to clean the wash mitt out, never thought of this. Personally I cannot imagine cleaning a car without snow foam, pressure washer and the two bucket method. But for somebody that dosen't want to purchase a PW this method is very good!
yer im back to pre washes with foam and 2 buckets at the minute just because theres real heavy grim on the bottem of the car... but I still just ONR and still use the chinese mitts for the wheels and underneath the skirts
Never tried ONR is it worth going it ago? Same with the Chinese wash mitts for lowest parts.
I think ONR is a must have product.. the more you use it the more you will use it...
I heard Larry from ammo NYC about a shaving brush he used. I'm about to order monza pro detailing brushes, its a set of 5. Shampoo i use is Insta finish maxi suds, foams really well and smells very good to. I have a gallon and it lasts a very long time. one pump per bucket (1 ounce). With a bilthamer washmitt for the paint and a different one for the wheels.
great stuff hanzel...
or maby you can use a brush from your wife's make up kit. Dont get caught tho lol
I have a makeup brush for the interior :) its too soft for paintwork or exterior stuff
i've never really followed the set rules on washing two buckets etc etc my method and i dont claim to know it all i just prefer it lol is a pre rinse with a PW and a weak APC, bucket with grit guard (zaino bucket had it 6 yrs now i have two but never use both) warm water shampoo plus and an Adams wash pad and wash, roof, side windows, boot, bonnet half way down the doors front bumper back bumper then lower doors and sills. i'm going to get a bunch of those mitts and try your method of rinsing the mitt as its short piled your method makes sense, i'll still use my bucket with grit guard as i already purchased it and the towels etc but deffo going to give that mitt and rinse a try. I'm struggling to find a good shampoo that doesnt cost the earth and has no wax etc etc just a pure shampoo?
p.s didnt know you were on Detailing Nation good to see you on there i'm Grizzle
hey graham.. the car chem is a great offering.. just shampoo.. but very concentrated. I think it pick up some awards on DW... I think the ONR helps but thats something Ive literally only been doing for a week.. but seems to add slip...
Graham, I found that 3D Pink soap leaves a squeaky clean surface with nothing else. Decent price too.
Makes sense. What if you have a short nozzle for the pressure washer so you can spray the mitt I might try that instead of a hose. Nice tips
if you can spray it with the pressure washer that will prolly work although it might be a bit awkward and it might blast some dirt into the mitt rather than flush it.. but could work if you drop the pressure a bit.
Hey Jon we chatted once recently about the Meguiars Express wax I have switched to the ONR one bucket wash and love it. It's winter here now in NY so I use the ONR in hot tap water in a bucket with lid to take to my customers for maintenance washing so it doesn't freeze. I am going to definitely use concentrated car wash with ONR added to it like you did. And ty for the mitt link I ordered several. Again if you would like a small sample of the Meguiars Express wax I would be more than happy to send a lil. Thanks mate John @ Carefree Auto Detailing LongIsland NY.... look for my page on FB
Really like this method used it over the weekend on two cars. By the time I had used the same incredimitt on the second car it didn't seem to be performing as well in terms of picking up the suds.
I am a complete beginner and I was wondering if you ever thought of doing an idiots guide to detailing specifically washing, using fallout remover and hand polishing (I don't feel confident enough using a machine polisher and don't have the time with 3 small kids :o)? I spoke with Pete in Bilt Hamber and he recommended Korrosl and Cleanser Polish but want to use these properly. I'm pretty sure I am putting small scratches on the car during washing even though I think I am being careful. Like I say a basic guide to get a really good finish washing, fallout, tar remover and polish. I have been washing and using Autoglym aqua wax up to now getting pretty good results.
Also the raptor microfiber cloth seems to be out of stock on in 2 detailing and savers choice. Are the Korean ones they now sell just as good?
Makes perfect sense to me. As for the price of those large buckets!
Are you washing your cars with cold water? I've always used hot. Another reason not to use those 20 litre buckets.
I do use cold water generally yer.. just because it takes a while to go inside and fill up rom the hot water tap.
Atlasta soft tip brushes are very good Jon great video and saving water and time I did buy those cheap mitts and there fine many thanks 👍🏻😉
that looks like a winner paul.. gonna have to put that on the hit list! :)
If you're serious about washing cars, the prices of grit guards and buckets, etc, shouldn't be an issue. You can make these products last for years if well looked after. I'm finding the detailing world getting a bit boring, there's too many right and wrongs, everything is becoming way over complicated. It's taking the fun out of it.
Ok stupid question... why dont you add the step of using the hose into the two bucket method? I know it adds time but if you are going to be anul about getting your mit clean for a car you have worked hard on the finish why not add the extra step?
I find you get the mitt cleaner rinsing with a hose thank dunking in a dirty wash bucket.. so its kind of getting to the point of not being efficient to do both... the bucket rinse does allow you to really work the mitt over the guard grill though which can be handy for deep pile formats of mitt.. this rinse mehtod doesnt work as well if you have the big deep shaggy style mitts... This 1 bucket method is really handy in summer when your in a rush.. the other thing that makes it work as well as rinsing those chinese mitts back to spotless, is the fact ONR in my opinion does a great stop of reducing marring.. you could almost just use ONR and ditch the second bucket.. but I hate having dirty water in the wash bucket so I dont tend to do that.
Absolutely brilliant video! Thanks for the very "Detailed" information. You're more pro, than the big mouth know it all narcissistic egos out there. At last, I can learn from someone who really knows what they're doing! Cheers mate, all the best to you! David.
Has anyone come up with a option for the detialing brush? I'm curious how the shavers lathering brush are like for durability can get them in medium soft and ultra soft now in 2020
Frustrating that I’m after a good guide to a one bucket wash as I live in a flat and have no outside water supply and the title says one bucket wash but 16 mins in I find that this actually needs an outside hose with free running water. So it’s a one bucket wash with the need for outside water supply..... annoyed I wasted 16 mins!!!
Type of dude that dries his car off with beach towels
SpiritZer00 wow... I would reply to your comment if I even knew what the hell you were talking about. Fool!!!
Got the answer I was looking for. Lololololol
Hi
I do not really understand why many use high gsm towels with QD, is just a waste of the product which is absorbed by the towel?
I tend to to use a high GSM buffing cloth when Im using the QD as a drying aid (on a car with some water left after rinsing, or stuff you miss when you towel dry)... So the high GSM towel will keeping going more than a low GSM one if you hit some bits of water...
On a dry car I favour normal buffing cloths because they have more bite..
But you would not exactly be wasting any "noticable" amount of product using a high GSM.. The products are generally designed to flash away and the active ingredients (things like waxes, or siloxane etc, gloss polymers) are left on the paintwork... The reason you generally dont use the big dense ones to buff is they are too pillow like and have no bite...
Any link to the lambs wool wash mitt Tia....great video, I have never got why you need a 2nd bucket
One of the cleanest VW vans on the planet !!!
This method just makes a lot of sense. Great job on the video
really enjoying watching your videos. loads of quality interesting info. I'm going to try the mitt and 1 bucket wash. Thanks!
So you say you get the mitt cleaner using a hose rather than a second bucket, but then go on to say that if you were washing a supercar you would use the two bucket method? I'd rather wash my mitt with fresh water from a hose than dirty water from a bucket.
yer maybe dave... I hear what your saying... so I tend to perhaps use a method like this nowadays on the golf. Its just as quick and I dont have to get all the gear out and the golf isnt covered from swirls from not using 2 buckets etc.. but generally if I care about the car I will make sure I use a good pre wash that actually hits the film of dirt on the panels well.. try and get as much off so really the contact clean is just hopefully dislodging the the rest thats on the panel.. and then the 2nd bucket of rinse water can be usefull and perhaps less hassel. I dont always use 2 buckets though..
literally everyone has their own "thing" with how they do it...
Forensic Detailing Channel ok I see about the pre wash... But at 34:30 You say that the wash bucket is clean (and it does look remarkably clean) and cleaner than if you used the 2 bucket method. But then later say if you're cleaning a car you want to be extra cautious with, you would use the two bucket method. It seems like you're giving in to the 2 bucket detailing stigma and not following the method that you have proved to yourself to be a safer method!
yer maybe buddy, I dont tend to script them.. theres so many grey areas in detailing you can end up contradicting yourself a lot. tbh Im not entirly sure what the complete method was in this video was a couple of years ago I shot this.
another great video, been using the rinse your mitt with the hose instead of two buckets for a while now. the addition of onr is interesting though..
great stuff thanks for that mate.. do you find it works well?
Absolutely! Have been wondering why people been wasting time and water with another bucket while having access to running water..
Car Chema dilution is 1900:1 so for a 22ltr bucket it's 12ml of soap and there caps are 10ml so it's about 1.5caps then?
hakman239 it would be 1.2 caps if your ratios are correct.
I found that 12ml isn't enough I put 2 caps in first then water but I use to use chemical guys gloss works auto wash that had much better foam
I prefer Chinese wash mitts made of baby panda fur. Safe on clear coat
Hi John I tried this method twice now with a gtechniq microfiber wash mitt
In both cases the bucket has quite a lot of dirt inside it at the end
What could I be doing wrong?
Prewash with touchless from BH first.
good technique really liked it. btw your can make it bucket less by using a water gun with soap dispenser
Defo you can.. Ive played around with this as well.. bought a ton of soap guns.. the problem with the regular one (soap gun) that most vendors sell is its not easy to switch between soap and water and thats why I settled on this method.. But I did look at about 4-5 different soap gun methods.
Old school & always worked, when done right.
What are people's thoughts on just using microfiber clothes. And keep using a fresh one instead of rinsing off etc
Very detailed info on all of your videos. Subscribed.
A bit of feedback from me personally - the videos are too long. Some will argue it's better to have all the intricate detail - but most people in this day and age will click away when seeing a 30/45 min video. I don't typically have that much time to sit and watch so find myself skipping looking for the info I want. I think it'd be beneficial to your view count, and subscriber numbers if the videos were sort of sub 15 minutes to keep the viewers (or at least me, personally) interested.
For me, often when watching product review videos - less is more. A brief intro of the product(s) - demonstration of it being applied/in use - demonstration of the results - perhaps a side by side comparison - summary of how you rate. For me seeing that layout I can take away all the info I need in a relatively short space of time. It'd keep me coming back for other product reviews.
In the mean time keep up the good work :)
your not wrong.. I have tried and failed so many times to get the times down.. but yer I am hell bent at the moment of keeping them short and sweet.. they are sooo long I know. Ironically though its also been I think an important reason why the channel has been able to grow a bit.. but yer I totally hear what your saying. thx for sub'ing great to have you here.
Nice video, I'm subscribed. Something I've seen before that makes a long video infinitely more useful is to add a "Table of Contents" in the description that gives starting points for each point or subsection in the video. For example:
Properly Rinsing the Mitt: 28:54
This works for me, it's the best of both worlds. I love the detail and the links mean you can dip in and out or back to sections easily.
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I watched most of it. Just skipped parts when I got the gist of what he's saying. Reviewed some parts I needed to get more clarity.
Hey John, I wash my car with fairy washing up liquid, I have ordered the bilt hamber shampoo you showed in another video but is there an issue with using washing up liquid, what will it do - or will it not do. Thanks
Great vid' , makes a lot of sense. And you are right washing a car is a good workout, but running is better ;)
Hi John,
i've been using the "holy" method of the 2 bucket wash for ages now, thinking that this is THE method for as "safe as possibly can" washing. But after following your amazing channel for a while now (btw very impressed with your attention to detail in every way,thumbs up for that!),i'm not so convinced now that 2 bucket is the way to go? It makes sense what you're saying, but i admit i would try it but not with confidence.
i'm not entirely sure that those chinese mitts are good quality(like most things cheap aint equal to quality)? And although your rinse method with the hose is quick and doesn't inflict dirt in your wash solution, how sure can you be that you've hit every mm of that mitt with your hose? While if you where dunk it in a rinse bucket you now that every fibre has been slushed with water?
and my last concern is that the pressure of a regular waterhose isn't created equal in every county/city. I can tell already from watching your video that your water pressure is higher than mine,so that means that the chance of that i would get the most dirt out of the mitt is lower than yours because of the lower pressure coming out of the hose?
I hope you still follow this thread as it been a while that you've posted an answer, but i'm very interested what your detailed mind thinks about my issues for this method.
Thank you.
Kind Regards
thanks leminako. my water pressure sucks :( the chinese mitts are ok.. not anywhere as good as my favorite mitts. This method works fine. like others have said you could chuck more mitts in the bucket and save time. ONR is the key thing as well that helps make this safe.
tell you what though 2 buckets is still a good way to rinse off a mitt. everything has a place. I understand why lots do it. I dont tend to use 2 buckets that often though.. every time I dont use 2 buckets in a video I get crucified :(
Then mine sucks catastrophicly😊.
I'm also so lunatic detail minded like you, like your clay video I totally agree the agressiveness of clay and should be taking seriously!
Now for the Chinese mitts, simple question, are the safe for your paint? You say ok?? My understanding of ok is that's fine enough for people who want to be semi safe on there car. But I want best safe possible. They are extremely cheap and that's there great appeal. But I can't find them easy to ship to Belgium.. Can't you use this method with other mitts, like the microfiber madness or meguiars microfiber mitt?
Why don't you use warm water in the bucket?
I dont sometimes mate.. maybe more when theres more grime and its freezing cold in the winter...
I don't know why for some reason I can't feel any slip with the car chem shampoo I put 2 caps it might just be me but I'm not sure
they are selling 5 litires of it for 20 quid at the moment. thats a bloody bargin.. make sure you have enough to give tons of subs.. I got crazy with the suds and pour it into the mitt as well.. as long as its not sunny/hot its not a problem to go sud crazy.... :)
Why isn't that many suds left in the bucket at the end
might have been me swapping the dirty bucket with clean water for wow factor! Or might be that the suds just disapear when the buckets been sitting still for a while... Seriously though that was the bucket.. There was a couple of black dots of grit/dirt in there.. Perhaps a slightley opaqueness to the water.. but generally the water was pretty clean...
Is this a solution that can be used on the long term? What about the proposed Chinese mitts, do you trust them? They are indeed insanely cheap on eBay, but if they are really not to be trusted, why bother? Would it be a better investment to buy like a Meguiar's microfiber mitt? Almost two years later, is there anything you revisited into this technique? :)
I dont rate the meguiars MF mitt. whenever Ive used it the amount of chunks of dirt I see right high up on the surface.. I want something deeper more shaggy... microfiber incredipad or carpro wash mitt or dooka wash pad for me all day long buddy
Would love to see more videos on that black vw van. I have a black car also.
If you are looking for a good brush: Auto Finesse Hog Hair Brush
Hi John, great video mate, keep up the good work, and I for one love a long video 😉 would you use this method on your own car, I know you say the misses golf and the T5 but is it really that safe to ditch the 2 buckets. Hope so as this looks like much less hassle. 2 hours for a basic wash is getting old quick. Cheers, keep up the god work. Tom
on my own cars or like a premium car I prefer other wash mitts like the Incredimitt or pad or the dooka.. and these pads are better cleaned in a rinse bucket than try to blast the dry out.. so I tend to use a 2 bucket method on those.. although I sometimes use no rinse bucket with those premium mitt and just rely on the ONR more...
although this method is safe enough, in fact gets the chinese mitt cleaner before each pass than a 2 bucket method would.. this method tends to also work best in summer when theres less like road grime stuck to the car... ONR is also a REALLY important part of this method.
@@ForensicDetailing just found this John- sorry to be dim, but what’s ONR?
Please can you put link for the green drying towel many thanks
its not available resale.. I got this as a test sample direct from a manufacturer
I powerwash the floor, put junk towel down, put my mit down, wash it off crystal clean mit every time I wash the dirty part
What temp are you washing the cheap mitts at? And are you tumble drying them too?
typically 30- 40 no dont tumble them.. just spin. and they feel close to dry after that air dry them for a bit.. these cheap mitts lasts forever literally incredible. but not as safe as high quality plush things but very handy
Yes very impressed with them used today for first time on my van 👍🏻
I got some of the wash mitts you recommend on this video the other week... When I rub one against a CD it causes some swirl marks... Not sure whether they're bad enough that they'd cause any issues on the paint - is that anything that you've noticed when using them? Cheers!
ok so testing things on CD's is cool.. but the surface of the CD is softer imo than even the softest clearcoat.. And the 2 materials are not a like for like thing to compare... So I can put micro scratches in CD's with even the best buffing cloths on the market if I rub hard and fast enough, but I cant on clearcoat.
but testing on CD's is still usefull because it allows to you to compare things...
The Chinese mitts can you put them in the machine with like bold 2 in 1
you can use and abuse them. they can go in a washing machine yes.. but dont machine dry them.. They are REALLY sturdy and last forever...
Is that a hologram, top right at 40:30? not picking faults, just checking im understanding what i think im seeing
Love your videos by the way, objectivity is superb! keep it up mate
might be or might be a bit of grease.. even though van looks half decent on camera, its heavily beaten up, dented, chiped scratched.. It gets used as a bit of a test mule.