My Full Kit for 5 Months in Africa / Yamaha Ténéré 700 Bad News / First Impressions
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- Bret presents at the International Motorcycle Show in Long Beach, CA, meets fans face-to-face, and tries to ride the new Yamaha Ténéré 700. Learn exactly how he packed his motorcycle for a 5 month adventure through western Africa in 2016-2017. First impressions on the 2020 Yamaha Ténéré 700.
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Bret, I attended your 230PM talk on Saturday. We were both wearing the same shirt! haha
I was dazzled that you had your GS in the Adventure Out! booth. It's the real star of the show! ;)
I carry dehydrated food with me whenever I'm camping. Its bulky but not heavy and its great to have a hot meal in camp.
Mountain House Breakfast Skillet + instant coffee = bush heaven!
The Tenere ticks a lot of boxes, but the even simpler, tough as nails, air cooled DR650 is a better bet for Africa. It bugs me that we can't buy new DR's here in Europe due to pesky E.E.C emissions laws. The crazy thing is, I get stuck behind poorly maintained or worn out diesel trucks & buses every day, that push out more pollution in an hour than a DR would in a hundred years.
I went to the show last Saturday and saw your seminar for packing as well as your second seminar. So much great information. At 6:34 in the video is me taking the picture of my friend Ken with Brett.
First show in seven years I missed and you were there! Dang! Kudos to getting this video out so quickly.
Thank you so much for this content man, truly the best motorcycle content on CZcams. Congratulations
Thanks Bret for all the great content you posted on this channel!! Good luck to you 👍
Saw you at the convention, Man! Great presentation. I have to admit...I kinda geeked out when I saw you and your bike. I’m a Mototrek fanboy, Lol!
Merry Christmas to you and your family and crew that make this channel possible. Thank you.
Merry Christmas, Glenn!
I am a hard core dirt biker, but the Yamaha peaks my interest immensely ! I like the simplicity and like you said “ not damaged with a small crash or tip-over “ and of course the price point ! Thanks for the great review.
"you don't have to worry about antenna failure" - that certainly resonated with me. My key antenna failed and left me stranded a few states from home on my Tiger 1200. Might be trading it straight across on the tenere 700.
Some excellent tips on packing. I just love your comments about the food.
I love how motorek edit their video, everything from dialogue to music to content!
Thanks, Andrea!
Damn I'm so bummed I missed your seminar. I really appreciate all your videos and have learned so much from you.
I can’t wait to hear your real world impression of the T7! I agree with your thoughts on where it’s pointed in the market!
Love that you could just ride right to the booth. Slick side-stand deployment.
Great tips on packing. I am with you... I think Yamaha has a winner on its hands.
Thanks for the feedback, Alan.
I'm one of the first ones to get the Tenere 700 in Australia all my precious bikes have been dirt bikes eg YZ250 Crf450x 300exc the tenere dose not not feel big to me and has more than enough suspension and even more power than what you need on dirt
My work collegue has crashed his brand new T7 a week ago. He's getting another one:)))
Seems like a capable bike.
I watch the commercials to help you out. I don’t do that for anybody else. Keep up the good work.
As a dirt bike rider with a plated WR 450 in Colorado, I look forward to trying out the Tenere 700. We saw it at the Denver International Motorcycle show and I was impressed with the simplicity and pricing of it. I look forward to you getting your hands on one and reviewing it.
I have to agree with you. So far, this is the closest we've gotten to a modern replacement for the KLR 650.
Too expensive
@@protectork9831 exactly, 10.000€ for a bike like this ? Great suspensions, great engine but absolutely no electronics and very very cheap plastics, switches etc...
You should check SWM Superdual.. it is the closest thing to KLR. T700 is the 2nd closest at this point
I keep my DR650 until they don’t make them no more,hopefully another 150 years.nothing beats a DR
Too heavy
All the bells are whistles are shinny, and shiny tends to get our attention, but what's not there can't break and cause grief. The HP wars, reminds me of the megapixel wars when digital cameras were first a thing. It's an easy marketing point but not as important as they make it out to be. The T7 could really be were the DR650 is today in 20 years. The solid reliable bulletproof bike that won't kill your wallet.
Currently on a 990 and the Tenere is appealing to me for the reasons you mentioned. 790 makes me nervous with all the tech on board when traveling long distance far from a ktm dealer. I doubt I'll ever get rid of the 990 but when it is time to retire it from full-adventure riding duties I will be looking for something more along the lines of the Tenere. Hopefully by that time, some other companies will also be entering that category.
You could consider the AJP PR7
I really look forward to your review of this bike, and indeed the comparison of this Ténéré 700 and 790 Adv.
Theres no such thing as enough powaaah 😁
WOW! What a high quality and sympathetic presentation. Just subscribed to your channel. 👍🏻
Thanks!
Will be at Chicago IMS working with the BDR group. I think you are going to be there too. Look forward to meeting you.
Hello Bret. Love following you (and Ryan (F9)). Your channel are the best made and informative ones. You are a very good pair of entertainers. I wish I could go to this event and meet you in person. You did mention t the beginning that you are doing 5 shows like this but have you ever thought of participating in Montreal's Bike Show (Salon de la moto) ? My friends Sylvain Gallea and Court Rand of Ecuador Freedom Bike Rental did last year and saw their business from our part of the world increase a bit. Say hello to them for me please, their booth must not be far from yours. Thanks again and keep on riding, teaching, entertaining !!!
Saw the Tenere at the Brussels Auto Show a few days ago. Man oh man, what a gorgeous motorcycle and so cheap.
But how am I going to be able to haul my tent to the Grand Canyon and back without 20 stage traction control, lap timers, heated nose picker and adjustable racing stripes?
Will a nitrous kit be optional?
nice video, must admit that Yamaha will be popular, you are turning to real movie star Bret, well done, cheers V!
I am now going to spend my time mastering the kick stand stop...........
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@@MOTOTREK holy shit thank you!
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hahaha my thoughts 2, that was cool!
Hey Brett, could you do a really specific video on the clothes one should take for adv rides, may be for a month long tour !? I mean the quick dry tshirts, liners, semi formal/casual clothes for formal scenarios, the shoes or slippers !? Also, the riding gear and what do you wear underneath !? The A to Z of complete clothes and riding gear, how do you plan to wear them and wash them, going from less than 10 degrees to upwards of 35 degress (celsius) in one trip !
P.s. thank you for the amazing content and best regards from Nepal.
Great idea, Kiran!
I do a ton of riding in Asia (tropical, very wet, and sometimes cold). My base layer is compression shirt, socks, and pants (all full length). I like how light they are and how they slip under my gear and don't chafe. Also, they are drip dry so when I arrive, I just wear them in the show and hang them overnight. Super light, cheap, and I only need to bring 2 pairs.
Adding to it, could you show us the packing bags you use in more detail? I mean the hole assortment you use for packing clothes, camping items, tools, etc. and what is important when deciding which to buy, from size to materials.
@@nathanboeger9329 thank you for your info. I have searched the entirety of CZcams for those suggestions type of videos but none of them are specific. I had been taking notes from backpacking community for that matter. But coming from experience of the riders such as you and our own MOTOTREK, I am sure, lots of motorbike riders community such as me and others will know first hand about our dilemmas in what to actually carry and wear for the trip.
SAE plug conversion tip is a good one. My heated gear and battery tender now operate off that single plug. I even have a 12vdc port and USB connector I can plug into it. A lot less battery/fused connections and wiring.
Hey Bret, it’s so good watching and learning from your channel whilst being here across the pond in England. Every episode brings new ideas, new techniques and inspiration to not only how I set up my bike, but the way in which I travel too. If you ever get chance I’d like any feedback you might have on my very own, and very new CZcams channel I just started, especially as I plan on filming my next big trip to Kazakhstan in 2020. Keep up the good work, it’s so valuable to us out here.
I should of added, any feedback you might have on my filming or communications to the viewers would be great. But don’t worry if not
CONGRATS Bret!!!!! thanks !!! great video
Enjoyed the talk and the review. Be safe
Good show. Encore!
Great video! Thx! A few things seem to be missing in your packed gear demo:
- Water Filtration device
- Water Bottle(s)
- Lightweight Cookware/Utensils
- Light Tarp/Parachord
- Mini Folding Fire Stove
- Toiletries
- Chain Cleaner/Lube
- Spare parts - chain/links/brake pads/spokes etc.
- Tire pump/repair kit
- Basic cleaning kit, shield/visor spray, micro cloths, latex gloves, disposable paper towels
- Medicines, Sun screen, lip balm, extra ear plugs, bug spray, mosquito net hat, hand sani, wet wipes, etc.
- Extra boots (typically a lighter weight backup pair, though both should be Gore-Tex laminated or lined)
- Heated Vest/Jacket Liner
- Thermal Helmet Liner/Head/Neck Warner
Not including water, this should be 5-8 lbs. of gear, and most is essential.
Bret: "the DR is ancient"
Suzuki: "Here is the new (but not new) DR 650 2020"
With bold new graphics.
I still bought one 🤷🏾♂️😁
I don't understand the comparison though... to compare the T7 to the DR650 is far fetched. They are comparable in the sense that both are "dual-sport/adventure bikes", but one is 165kg Wet, the other is 205Kg Wet...one has 1 cylinder, the other has 2...
I mean... comparing these 2 like one is the replacement of the other is a bit like comparing a CBR1000 to a Vstrom650.
I would even say that someone who is happy with the T7 won't be happy with the DR, and vice-versa, they are fundamentally different bikes in the experience they provide (I own a DR650, so I know)
And then Kawasaki said - " Here's your new KLR"
DR650 may be ancient but at half the price of the Tenere it is twice the value. The DR650 outshines the Tenere on most of it's "redeeming qualities".
1. Simple electronics on the Tenere - The DR has even fewer
2. Steal frame to be welded - The DR also has a steal frame that is more accessible
3. Lack of damage prone areas on the Tenere - DR has even fewer damage prone areas
4. 9.5 inches of ground clearance on the Tenere - DR has 10.5
5. Inverted Forks on the Tenere - Unless I am on a race bike on the track, i'd rather forks that don't need immediate attention once i get a leaky seal. Inverted forks will leak oil all over your rotors and tire.
DR is also lighter.
i will admit an 18" rear on the tenere outshines the DR's 17"
Ultimately, the Tenere is going to be a better handling and more powerful bike. Is that worth twice the price though?
All good points, Charles.
Once we get the opportunity to ride the 700, we'll see how it compares.
Yup, you're right. I have a 2010 xt660z tenere and after a T700 test drive makes me consider a AJP PR7 as a Dr650 better option.
Kawi missed the boat on this one. When my Klr calls it quits in15 yrs or so I’ll be shopping for a new old T700.
KLR v3 - gotta think it's coming...
Hope Kawi steps up
By then Eagle Mike will be busting out a 750cc piston kit :D
Royal Enfield Himalayan is the new KLR.
@@rhllnm unreliable and heavy, most of my friends sold this one. Terrible ownership experience.
Brett always good videos tips. I wish i had visit this show - unfortunately Brazil is far far way... let see videos! Congrats
Gets keys to the high performance electric Harley...
Bret: figure 8s in the parking lot
To be honest, I asked him to do those figure-8's. Too bad we only had the bike for 20 minutes.
- Tim
MOTOTREK how’s the low speed “fueling” especially since there’s no clutch.
The HD has modes that let you adjust the throttle sensitivity, from slow-and-smooth to instant response.
Great entrance to the show. Like your style.
Thanks, Mike.
Nice display review of the T7 with good spots on adv upsides. Look fwd to follow Your Africa adventure, let is know how your packing will do it for You.
It is the engine of the MT-07 a little modified, but it has 75hp, 68Nm max, 204 kg with full fuel tank. What you have to be aware is that despite it is written "tubeless" on the Pirelli it comes with chambers...I have tried it on road, it is fun to ride despite the small engine (I have a 2015 GSA) but couldn't try it off road. But I can't wait to see if the new Husqvarna concept bike is coming on production: Norden 901 it has the engine of the Duke 890, it could be a revival of the 990 adventure....
So tempting. I gotta be patient though. Wait and see what the future holds. Love my KLR but is this what I'm looking forward to?
Much respect from everyone here at Vikingbags!
I had the 3 Tenere's before this model and can't wait to get this one. It is reliable, if something goes wrong it is easy to fix, for an adventure bike it is light, engine power is more then enough, it is off road capable - what's there not to like ? :)
Nice video ! When camping in the summer or warm area, you should look at hammocks. Pack tiny and easy/fast to set up. A couple months ago i went for 3 days in UT camping in the mountain riding my drz 400s and it was a blast. I wish i could do that for a living :-)
I've already put my hands on it...its a great bike.
We're jealous, Marco!
It's an amazing bike I'm sure you will be surprised of it when you will ride it.
I liked your video like packing and what to take on the bike ride.
Thanks!
@Bret you should really check out SWM Superdual. Cheaper, smaller and lighter than T700 (thumper!) most importantly available right now.
You are welcome to try mine except that it is stored for winter in Kazakhstan; I'll be back there next spring to continue travels.
Hey Bret, I just did a comparative test T7/790S/850 GS Adv and I can tell you that during those 3 days on on & off road, T7 behaved quite well, the best in highway the most planted (speeds in excess of 170-190 km/h), very planted on twisties, but because of the very stiff suspension it was a bit jumpy, you could feel that much more in off road (compression and rebound both very stiff) but I have a 950 Adventure and I'm used to that :)) seat was comfortable for those 200+ km range that the 15 litres tank gives you. Consumption at around 5,5-6 liters for 100 km. To me it felt like a lightweight 950 Adventure and you don't feel the lack of power, those 70hp are more that enough, the engine is super-smooth compared to the 790 S & 850 GS. Overall a good bike but the 790 Adventure impressed me in all departments, on road - on rails, off road confidence inspiring and very able. The 850 GS was a heavy sofa on wheels :( I hope this helped a bit :) Cheers!
Thanks, Bogdan! That's all great info.
Great Video as alsways. Very Helpful.
I cant find Raincovers that small though... I have Pants in XXL for Bicycle riding and a huge raincoat. But that always takes up huge amounts of space.
Couldn't agree more about the dehydrated food!
I've survived on burning sausages over fire, than watch dried up grains soak water back.
Bret Almost 50 ! with energy of 30s. We need your food chart. :)
Love your videos Brett. I was wondering can you let me know what Rain Gear do you use.
The one thing that will break on the Tenere when falling over is the shifter linkage. Might be a good idea to carry a spare
Thanks for the tip.
More info please on the boot dryers and the insulated sleeping mat that seems to pack so magically small!
The sleeping mat is not hard to find, get over to REI. I picked up a Nemo Tensor last year, on sale for $130 IIRC. They're not cheap but they're fantastic. Good sleep is worth the bucks. There are other brands that are probably as good, that's just the one I bought.
I ordered a 12V PEET brand set, I will replace the cigarette lighter adapter with a SAE plug, but still not sure which ones he is using...
Top stuff, when are you coming to the UK? It would be smashing to see you at a show here .
Great vid. Thanks!
Hello!
Big fan of your channel and lessons. Are you coming to the Motorcycle Show in Chicago?
Safe travels!
Boot dryer?? You guys have a link to this? I've never heard of such a thing being this portable.
Yes, Peet's Boot Dryer. One runs on propane!
www.peetdryer.com/collections/portable-peet-dryers
I see myself and by buddies at 6:01. Good talk!
what a legend thanks for sharing
Hi Brett I rode the T700 in the summer. You will love it. Rode the 2020 AT last week. That's a great bike too. Different markets though.
My test ride on the AT. No off road I'm afraid. czcams.com/video/DP5JH5PFg5I/video.html
Thanks for the feedback, GB.
Supposedly itinerary will be available in Cali June 2020 Hope to be there the first day it’s out and ride home with it
Good informative video but what you think about the 16 ltr tank? I have a 23ltr tank on my XT660Z and was on my tours through the desert very pleased with it. I think an ADVENTURE bike have to have a larger tank than 16ltr!
Oh nice, the middle part of the front fender seems to be bolted on so easy high fender conversion?
The other bike I’m interested in hearing your opinion about is the new KTM 390 Adventure.
Fly over to Europe. You can ride it and buy it here :p
For months actually. First sat on it and a group went for an offroad trip in August
great video. Which other cities are you going to be visiting with this show
Yo bret. Your tent look small in size.. any specific link that i can refer to??
Great Video.
Got a question. Do you have anymore info or link to the helmet shield sleeve/bag? I want to carry a second one but not in foam. Ha ha
i love the path of "keep it simple" chosen by yamaha. I would have added only a tc for less experienced users or for beginners, but very simple, 3 settings: on, hard conditions (wet, snow, city, etc. all in a more marked setting), off. but overall the best value for money on the market today (here in EU, i hope the price stay under 10K also there)
what? Bret Tkacs at the quebec city bike show in february!!1 ;) would be awesome :P. if not you should have a ride here, i am doing a big adventure on the east side of canada next summer. its gonna be my first big trip on a bike and i can't wait for it . ty for the nice video. you are the #1 for motorcycle content.. fortnine come in 2nd .. Oh btw. you didn't talk about the new vstrom 1050, the panamerica or the new africa twin. can't wait for those video.
I definitely like the specs on the T7... would like to see the low slung raid tank as an option but thats not a deal breaker (can always carry extra fuel). Price is also very appealing... even fully dressed with rugged bags and all the farkles it should be 12-13k
You poor US guys... I've actually tried the Ténéré 700, had one for 24h while my SuperTen was on the mechanic. Only ridden it on road, and my off-road experience is very limited (not to say nearly null), so keep these two things in mind. My final conclusion, after ridding it, was simple - if i could afford to have a 2nd bike, THAT would be the one. It's quite lightweight, it moves around very well. I'm used to the SuperTen 1200cc torque, so for me the 700 lacked a bit, but nothing critical and that you won't get used to it. It rev's higher than the SuperTen (as expected), and it lacks no power - actually, on a steep climb on a highway (yes, we have those in Portugal), i tried to twist the throtle in 6th gear, starting at 70km/h (a little under 50mph) to see how it behaved, and it reached 140km/h (about 95mph) in less than notime. I'd change three things if i purchased one: the seat (the original is quite stiff, not the sofa-like i'm used to on the SuperTen); add chashbars (they're small, so the weight won't go up much); and the licence plate holder (it goes waaaay too far back). Other than than, i really loved ridding it, and i'd love to try one offroad.
Thanks for the info, Mike!
Please give us a complete list of the gear you packed!
Cool dismount!
Just talked to a local dealer and he has 2 deposits and mine should be the 3rd . Can't wait to park next to the DR650 , wait I mean I can't wait to ride it ofcourse . Is this show coming to Northern California ? Would definitely go if it's close enough to home .
Bery useful channel from a very usefull person
Enjoyed the review because yes- I'm looking. My concern as an older (63), "vertically challenged" rider is: even w/ a lowering kit, how much lower will the seat go? I'm 5'7"/180#. My current ride is an older tourer, a 1987 BMW K75. After two years I've decided I'd like to go offload more; I'm looking for a "two wheeled Jeep Wrangler", and those 850cc-1200cc monsters are too big for me. THIS bike might do the trick.
Can you take a look at a 2020 Africa Twin (and/or Adventure sports and/or ES) if you get the chance?
Mototrek if you want to see a good review on the T-7 then “MAD-TV Yamaha Tenere 700 first impressions” from Australia has just done a pearler, you’d probably appreciate it more than most.
Cheers mate.
Very cool and helpful 👍
More info about the compact sleeping bag, please? I read every single comment, but I didn't see if someone else also asked this.
Will you have some thoughts to convey on the Norden 901 adventure bike which is now going into production?
That new Ténéré looks great, but the incandescent turn signals look out of place. LEDs would allow a little extra power for things like heated grips. I hope this is the start of a new trend for lighter weight ADV bikes.
Hi Mototrek team - Bret.
If we want to comply to a Leave No Trace approaches specific to Moto-Camping trips, several topics don't seem to be talked about very often.
As a general rule of thumb, I know that heavy loads are carried the lowest and closest to the center of the bike.
I'd like to have the MototrekADV rider's approach and insight on the following topics.
A - Water supplies :
A.1 - How do you carry/store/strap on the bike ?
A.2 - How do you filter/clean it ?
A.3 - What quantity do you usually carry/day ?
A.4 - What types of containers do you use ?
(MSR Dromedary, MSR Dromlite, Collapsible water bottles, Hydration backpack, Rotopax 1 Gallon-Water , other methods ?)
B - Food supplies :
B.1 - How do you carry/store/strap on the bike ?
B.2 - How do you store it night ? (
Bear Bag, Canister, Hanging on a tree)
B.3 - What types of containers do you use ?
(Ursack Allmitey + Oppsack, BearVault, OPSAK Odour Proof Bag, other methods ?)
C - Trash (Food remnants or Human waste):
C.1 - How do you carry/store/strap on the bike ?
C.2 - What types of containers do you use ? (STS Trash sack, OPSAK Odour Proof Bag, Dry bag + Ziploc, other methods ?)
C.3 - What types of methods do you use ?
(On site - Cat Holes / Carry-on - Wag bags or Restop bags ?)
D - Fuel :
D.1 - How do you carry/store/strap extra fuel on the bike and manage with other luggage ?
D.2 - What quantity do you usually carry/day ?
D.3 - What types of containers do you use ?
(MSR Fuel bottles - 30oz - 887ml, Rotopax Fuel - 1Gal - 3.80L, Desert Fox Fuel Cell - 3L, other methods ?)
Thanks for your input and recommendations.
Hi Bret, I’ve only just discovered your excellent channel. Just wondering if you’ve ever been (here) to Australia?
Well, at least here is South Africa, it looks like the Tenere 700's closest competitor is the DL650 Vstrom.... Similar pricing and low tech approach. No doubt that it'll be a "this one for more road work, the other for more dirt" sort of argument. I look forward to the ride review and hopefully a comparison between those two bikes
I’m driving the S10ES, and for me, the height is the issue along with the top end weight. The 700 looks interesting, but want to see if I can find the ground with my feet. Unbelievable the amount of gear you take, looking to down the amount I take.
Great video (again)!
Could I ask for a complete list of Your packing list from this video?
(There is not much of this light weight camping stuff, here in Denmark...)
I'm about to buy the 2018 Enfield Himalayan. "Itchy boots" recommend some nice overland gear in her videos, but maybe You could recommend some things- or custom parts (for a low budget rider)?
Thanks to all Your videos, I will now try to find the right suspension kit, panniers and gear for myself. The Himalayan is sold in Denmark with Pirelli MT60 50/50 tyres. Looks like they are OK tyres.
I'm your age, 90kg and 178cm, and want to be able to ride some dirt tracks, and when I get some practice, perhaps a bit rougher terrain like the TET.
I have 30 years on the road, on all sorts of bikes, but almost 0 off-road. (There are no off road training programs where I live, only speedway, trial and roadracing. So it's going to be self teaching via CZcams videos!)
And a last question- Is chains with o-rings not good for off road? No one ever talks about it?!
Best Regards-
Jacob, Denmark
what do you think about those two pipes on the right side engine? im guessing coolant lines coming from a pump? Having the "lip" facing forward scares me. Also that type of oring connection has always leaked on me at one point or another on anything that vibrates...
Like a lot of bikes, those indicators look like they will bust up in a fall over. Needs tough flexi LED. There is body work, so possible damage. My ancient DR650 has none and I've fitted flexi LED blinkers. Not concerned about damage if I ever drop my DR. Still, I'd like a Tenere 700 anyway. As well as my DR that is....
How are the bikes ergonomics? Do you like it's ergonomics? Seating position, foot peg etc.
I notice that the subframe is welded. How important is it to have a bolted subframe on an adventure bike?
Great vlog what dates and show locations you have coming up
Bret's event calendar is at brettkacs.com, Rodney.