Caan. Matched betting has been completely destroyed in the last 6 months or so to the point where any possible activity that indicates such actions, your offers are instantly removed and you get stake restricted. It’s not just making a profit. There is NO where to complain to as advertising standards won’t support you and IBAS will only deal with betting disputes. The Gambling Commission are totally useless in supporting punters to stand up to these restrictive activities
I got gubbed from.tesco for only taking value offers, and never buying list price items, banned me from all stores and club card.... Oh wait... No they did not because they are not a bookie wanker who exist entirely to fleece the vulnerable Good work Caan, love these videos. I am not a trader yet but maybe one day, I am no good at variance lol
Bookies should be legislated against restricting successful gamblers, ironically such legislation would hardly reduce bookies profits, yet it would be of huge benefit to the betting eco system and community as a whole, it’s still entirely possible for bookies to exist under such conditions, they’d just have to sharpen their odds and offers a bit instead of spending so much resources on perfecting the art of profiling between smart betters and the juicy addicts they seem to love.
The thing that really boils my piss is how you can sign up and deposit in about 90 seconds with no checks at all yet as soon as you withdraw (or try to) they then throw id/address/bank checks at you and deliberately make it difficult for you to get your money. Of the 100 bookies I have opened, only ONE (Betstars) did those checks first. Disgusting practices.
Great videos man, this needs to be pointed out more so people are aware of what they are doing and you did a damn good job with these videos over the past days. Keep it up.
I agree with you 100% There is no differentiation between the recreational gambler and those with a problem in the eyes of the bookmaker. However, you seem to make a very comfortable living out of an industry that is heavily reliant on problem gamblers because they will increase the liquidity at the exchange meaning you can make money. No disrespect-I actually fully support your sentiment-but the dichotomy of your argument has to be acknowledged.
Virginbet got me today, irony is lost a fair bit there the last few weeks, one big price taken on an in play snooker bet this morning and this afternoon could not get more than £1 on any market. Truly a digusting industry this.
Disgraceful how punters are being treated. I only bet on Greyhound racing, and look for the best early price available. I'm now restricted by Skybet, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power, and William Hill... What I don't understand, is all I'm doing is taking the prices these bookmakers are offering... The fact that I back a fair percentage of winners is down to my skill and luck.. I have a modest stake, and I'm forced to accept the prices they offer me. I can't even request a better price.. It's criminal.. This is my hobby, and these bookmakers are trying to stop it... They're happy enough to take my money when I'm losing, but don't like to pay out when I win.. Something has to be done to make online betting fair for all...
The behaviour is shocking and needs looking at whilst having to promote Gamble Aware they will happily let you get 1,000's in debt but close your account the moment you get a good win.The reality is most Gamblers are what they would refer to as mug Gamblers so they will always come out on top but the greed of these companies is something else. It's such a shame alot if what you would call your casual punter still have no understanding of what an exchange is . Videos like this help that. Good work Caan. 👍👍
I can’t believe people are stupid enough to email asking why you care about this. I’ve seen countless lives ruined by bookies. One guy who asked them for no contact but they continued sending him text messages and bonuses to come back. He lost everything
The problem is how you educate and make people turn to the exchanges. Many of them are too lazy to learn the very simple to understand basics of what laying is and how could profit from the difference between back and lay odds, or how they give away value to bookies. Every day I hear from people "It looks too complicated to me", "I don't need to be explained fancy maths, how laying works and other philosophies. Look at me: betting 1 pound on astronomical odds and turning it into a grand. Simpler than what you're saying over there", "They're all the same, gonna limit your account after you'll be on a winning streak"(even though I've explained him countless times that it's not a bookie). I think the average gambler still confuses betting exchanges with traditional bookies. Or maybe in UK is different. I remember this "pro" gambler/tipster in my country, "teaching" people "winning strategies" at bookies he's been paid to advertise(Betfair Sportsbook included). Of course people reacted furious and doubtful. And when the time came to advertise Betfair's Exchange, the reactions were no different. I wonder what went through Betfair's Marketing Dept, would they expect to make people aware of a better product by linking it with a guy who promotes the same garbage day by day? It creates a big confusion, just like having Sportsbook and Exchange on the same website.
Hi Caan, had difficulties with this vice before ... another tactic they use is SMS texts to tell you that have you have free bets ... even when you opt out mobile marketing.
Betway gubbed me without me even placing a bet stange really when you look at their brand spangling adverts for first timers however they wouldn't take me and I hadn't placed a bet with any other bookmaker.
But its not even just the bookies lol, exchange completely nobs you aswell with 2-5% fee's, might not seem like allot to most but over time this is thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds robbed off you, and dont even get me started on premium charge. exchange fee's should be at a maximum of 0.1% but i doubt they will reach that number for atleast 20 years
So according to you, exchanges are not allowed to earn money from the services they provide? At least they are transparent and upfront about it. 2% of the net market profit, take it or leave it.
mzaja0 - Exchanges should be allowed to make money. Exchanges have to process every transaction which can use a significant amount of technological resources. Their costs increase when more people are looking at data in real-time. Finally, banks and card companies can often charge a percentage when utilizing their services. They could draw up a very complicated scale that helps people see exactly what will be charged or they can do what they are doing based on a percentage of winnings. 2% seems relatively fair because a transaction fee per wager would likely be higher if there was a large number of bets (which seems to be the case with many strategies.) For simple wagers 2% seems a little high but most people aren’t going to make profits doing only this.
Glad you followed up on that video, it didn’t explain enough, making £700 in 1 day out of value is in my mind almost unbelievable. Out of interest what was your average stake?
Spot on. I lost my bet365 account after backing 3 horses (lucky) over 4/1 in the space of 2 days. I lost £500 in online casino on WH & never got restricted.
Not sure but isnt restricting punters illegal in countries like Australia ? I might be wrong but im pretty sure ive read it somwhere about it, or someone posted it on fb.
Not only that I believe bookmakers have to lay anyone to a minimum liability.. surely punters should push politicians to enact laws to do the same? ...Cause the game as it stands now is rigged! 😤
I got banned from Unibet in one day after literally placing four £10 bets on horse racing! I was matched betting but surely four bets is not enough to build up a reliable profile! I was also using a VPN while signing up but I'm sure many other people do too nowadays. I was using my real info and verified me no problem and don't have multiple accounts. Hopefully they are becoming so paranoid about matched bettors they will ban legitimate users too and suffer financially...
Now we all know why Denise from bet365 does not do interviews.Time the regulators got off their lazy ass and started doing something about these serious issues .Racing is losing more and more fans everyday.
If you keep winning or too much you're out. No matter which betting provider. Betfair is a betting exchange. Rather the problem here. In which countries, Betfair is still allowed.
@@CaanBerryProTrader Yes that's also right. This is more related to countries where you can still legally bet with Betfair. Without VPN. I also love Betfair. Everything else can be forgotten.
Won about 8 grand on Unibet in a couple of months and they limited me to £20 a bet. Completely threw me off my betting and i couldnt win a fucking thing elsewhere. Was like 5 years ago but still pisses me off now.
I think that It wasn't value or 700£, but rather your name that they restricted your account. When stakes are high traders will look in to it, see your name that is well know in betting world. I have been match betting for few years, and never had a account closed in one day, usually it takes few months, despite taking ONLY value odds, price boost etc. (I dont do mug bets). Another issue is: you talking about 2 extremes: One is you, well known trader and other compulsive gambler. Most of bookmaker customers are in a scale between this 2 extremes, and they have zero interest in value, and how all betting world works, they just want to bet on their fav team or have bit of fun on horse racing or casino and they are willing to pay for that. Because majority of customers are "happy" bookmaking is (and will be) lucrative business.
@@CaanBerryProTrader it still could be related, to your ip number as they have it now. Most of them restrict vpn so if you try to open new account it is blocked immediately, before you even can open it. Anyway like you say it might be related to stakes size and betting patterns only. I dont know how you bet on mo play, but I guess If anybody will start taking big arbs for few hundred pounds in his first day it will be restricted too.
these betting companies are pure scum they promote responsible gambling however as soon as a you win a few quid they ban you however I could lose my life to gambling and they wouldn't care this is complete injustice and the government need to do more about this issue.
Stake limitations are not a new thing, match booking is not suitable for winners. Profitable bettors aren't welcome in that shitty business model. I don't even know why actual profitable bettors still bet with theses bookies, it's time to move to sports trading (yes, it would be a whole new world for some people, but it shouldn't be hard for the ones who are used to bet). I mean, Betfair, Orbit or Betdaq will never limit you (well, at least in Betfair exchange that will never happen, can't comment about their bookie). By this time match bookers should be obsolete for dedicated bettors, they better come join us as new sport traders
I have just opened a few accounts and I find it terrifying the offers to move everything to your phone. They are worse than smack dealers. Have a look at old snooker trophy presentations by the sponsors. The bookies and the tobacco directors even look fucking evil. Have a look.
I totally agree with you right on the (money) which is paired with greed and just appalling business conduct and morals. They are NOT only profiting from people's addictions, desperations and well being. They are making things worst !! Its shocking that as a country we are only just looking into the implications of mental health as a whole and those companies are allowed to profit from vulnerable people and take no responsibility for their actions. They are meant to contribute a certain % of the profits to help support people having gambling difficulties. But they dont! Be interesting to know how much tax they pay too ! Caan you are absolutely correct, it would be very easy to spot people betting irresponsibly and be to step in. But ummm that wouldn't make them any money. You don't think they have the customers best interests at heart ha ha. How they can sleep at night I have no idea !! oh wait if I had 660M to spend on a bed. Id probably sleep very well
Also. I think some of these free matched betting services (won’t name a few) are bookie sympathisers. They provide links for sign ups & direct links on their odds marchers which they claim the bookie can’t see (yeah right) Also in their Facebook groups they are heavy against multi accounting. I know it does go against the T’s&C’s but don’t tell me that before these people were taking a wage from the matched betting company that they weren’t multi accounting. Not sure if I’m on to something or I need to take the tin foil hat off haha
I get all your points but Bookies need to chin the profitable punters because if they all had Lay to Lose £2000 for eternity then the bookies would go under. If a pro punter had 10 accounts he could bet to win 20K a race and if there's 50,000 pro punters then it would be game over anyway. No point complaining about it.... Just get around it whatever way you can (mug your sportsbook accounts up or stick to exchanges)
@@CaanBerryProTrader Not going to happen though is it. Most mugs don't even understand what 'lay' means. They like an acca or terrible Requestabet. Don't get me wrong I've been trading Betfair for 15 years and I love the exchange but its not the answer for everyone. And it's not realistic to expect that to ever change.
It depends on the sport you are trading. Football? Basketball? Horse racing? They all have different markets, football has tons of markets, trade in those you feel the most comfortable, if you are talking about horse racing, well you have 3 TBP (or 2, maybe 4 or 5 depending on how much runners are about to participate), each way market, in some races you can bet between two horses (horse 1 versus horse 2, for example), and the most important one: the only winner market. It's all about you, bet in the ones you feel comfortable. And about the bank, well... if you are just getting into this and you have no experience please use a really small bank (€50, €100, €150 or maybe €200), if I'm not mistaken Caan recommends to start with €200 and opening operations with €5 which seems more than reasonable to me, I would recommend €100 with the minimum required bet (€2) for getting started, but that's just me, please, simply don't use money you will later regret losing. Be responsible, learning takes a lot of time and money, you will become better gradually
I get what you're saying Caan but for you to be a successful trader there has to be losers that's how capitalism works, I sure you know this, it's a tough issue to fully get people to understand and get the whole picture, you could say that successful traders are similar to bookmakers in the way, it's a bit ironic and slightly but hippocratical don't you think?
Think of the scalper. He backs at 4.6 and lays at 4.5. The guy taking the back bet at 4.5 could close out at 4.2. With the exchanges it’s slightly easier to sleep at night as you will never know whether the person your bet matches with ends up in profit or loss regardless of your end result.
Caan, are you in prison?
Hahahah it certainly does look like one ! Imagine him bein in prison and teachin everybody there how to trade horses :D
haha. The chap must be doing ok. Looks like he has a unit in a business centre.
Good stuff Caan. The only way we move forward is talking about these issues!
Caan. Matched betting has been completely destroyed in the last 6 months or so to the point where any possible activity that indicates such actions, your offers are instantly removed and you get stake restricted. It’s not just making a profit. There is NO where to complain to as advertising standards won’t support you and IBAS will only deal with betting disputes. The Gambling Commission are totally useless in supporting punters to stand up to these restrictive activities
I got gubbed from.tesco for only taking value offers, and never buying list price items, banned me from all stores and club card....
Oh wait... No they did not because they are not a bookie wanker who exist entirely to fleece the vulnerable
Good work Caan, love these videos. I am not a trader yet but maybe one day, I am no good at variance lol
Bookies should be legislated against restricting successful gamblers, ironically such legislation would hardly reduce bookies profits, yet it would be of huge benefit to the betting eco system and community as a whole, it’s still entirely possible for bookies to exist under such conditions, they’d just have to sharpen their odds and offers a bit instead of spending so much resources on perfecting the art of profiling between smart betters and the juicy addicts they seem to love.
The thing that really boils my piss is how you can sign up and deposit in about 90 seconds with no checks at all yet as soon as you withdraw (or try to) they then throw id/address/bank checks at you and deliberately make it difficult for you to get your money. Of the 100 bookies I have opened, only ONE (Betstars) did those checks first. Disgusting practices.
Great videos man, this needs to be pointed out more so people are aware of what they are doing and you did a damn good job with these videos over the past days.
Keep it up.
I agree with you 100% There is no differentiation between the recreational gambler and those with a problem in the eyes of the bookmaker. However, you seem to make a very comfortable living out of an industry that is heavily reliant on problem gamblers because they will increase the liquidity at the exchange meaning you can make money. No disrespect-I actually fully support your sentiment-but the dichotomy of your argument has to be acknowledged.
True. Exchange is better for having more value and making an exit. Bookmakers are having unfair practices.
Virginbet got me today, irony is lost a fair bit there the last few weeks, one big price taken on an in play snooker bet this morning and this afternoon could not get more than £1 on any market.
Truly a digusting industry this.
You are more than welcome in Betdaq, orbit or betfair buddy, fuck these greedy pigs
Disgraceful how punters are being treated. I only bet on Greyhound racing, and look for the best early price available. I'm now restricted by Skybet, Ladbrokes, Paddy Power, and William Hill... What I don't understand, is all I'm doing is taking the prices these bookmakers are offering... The fact that I back a fair percentage of winners is down to my skill and luck.. I have a modest stake, and I'm forced to accept the prices they offer me. I can't even request a better price.. It's criminal.. This is my hobby, and these bookmakers are trying to stop it... They're happy enough to take my money when I'm losing, but don't like to pay out when I win.. Something has to be done to make online betting fair for all...
The behaviour is shocking and needs looking at whilst having to promote Gamble Aware they will happily let you get 1,000's in debt but close your account the moment you get a good win.The reality is most Gamblers are what they would refer to as mug Gamblers so they will always come out on top but the greed of these companies is something else. It's such a shame alot if what you would call your casual punter still have no understanding of what an exchange is . Videos like this help that. Good work Caan. 👍👍
I can’t believe people are stupid enough to email asking why you care about this. I’ve seen countless lives ruined by bookies. One guy who asked them for no contact but they continued sending him text messages and bonuses to come back. He lost everything
@@CaanBerryProTrader Well you can still be polite and stupid at the same time. It’s like asking a fireman why they care about arsonists.
The problem is how you educate and make people turn to the exchanges. Many of them are too lazy to learn the very simple to understand basics of what laying is and how could profit from the difference between back and lay odds, or how they give away value to bookies. Every day I hear from people "It looks too complicated to me", "I don't need to be explained fancy maths, how laying works and other philosophies. Look at me: betting 1 pound on astronomical odds and turning it into a grand. Simpler than what you're saying over there", "They're all the same, gonna limit your account after you'll be on a winning streak"(even though I've explained him countless times that it's not a bookie). I think the average gambler still confuses betting exchanges with traditional bookies. Or maybe in UK is different.
I remember this "pro" gambler/tipster in my country, "teaching" people "winning strategies" at bookies he's been paid to advertise(Betfair Sportsbook included). Of course people reacted furious and doubtful. And when the time came to advertise Betfair's Exchange, the reactions were no different. I wonder what went through Betfair's Marketing Dept, would they expect to make people aware of a better product by linking it with a guy who promotes the same garbage day by day? It creates a big confusion, just like having Sportsbook and Exchange on the same website.
Hi Caan, had difficulties with this vice before ... another tactic they use is SMS texts to tell you that have you have free bets ... even when you opt out mobile marketing.
Betway gubbed me without me even placing a bet stange really when you look at their brand spangling adverts for first timers however they wouldn't take me and I hadn't placed a bet with any other bookmaker.
Because they gub if you either breathe or place a bet on a day with a y in it
But its not even just the bookies lol, exchange completely nobs you aswell with 2-5% fee's, might not seem like allot to most but over time this is thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds robbed off you, and dont even get me started on premium charge. exchange fee's should be at a maximum of 0.1% but i doubt they will reach that number for atleast 20 years
So according to you, exchanges are not allowed to earn money from the services they provide? At least they are transparent and upfront about it. 2% of the net market profit, take it or leave it.
mzaja0 - Exchanges should be allowed to make money. Exchanges have to process every transaction which can use a significant amount of technological resources. Their costs increase when more people are looking at data in real-time. Finally, banks and card companies can often charge a percentage when utilizing their services. They could draw up a very complicated scale that helps people see exactly what will be charged or they can do what they are doing based on a percentage of winnings. 2% seems relatively fair because a transaction fee per wager would likely be higher if there was a large number of bets (which seems to be the case with many strategies.) For simple wagers 2% seems a little high but most people aren’t going to make profits doing only this.
Glad you followed up on that video, it didn’t explain enough, making £700 in 1 day out of value is in my mind almost unbelievable. Out of interest what was your average stake?
Spot on. I lost my bet365 account after backing 3 horses (lucky) over 4/1 in the space of 2 days. I lost £500 in online casino on WH & never got restricted.
Not sure but isnt restricting punters illegal in countries like Australia ?
I might be wrong but im pretty sure ive read it somwhere about it, or someone posted it on fb.
For horse racing bets iirc
Not only that I believe bookmakers have to lay anyone to a minimum liability.. surely punters should push politicians to enact laws to do the same? ...Cause the game as it stands now is rigged! 😤
I got banned from Unibet in one day after literally placing four £10 bets on horse racing! I was matched betting but surely four bets is not enough to build up a reliable profile! I was also using a VPN while signing up but I'm sure many other people do too nowadays. I was using my real info and verified me no problem and don't have multiple accounts. Hopefully they are becoming so paranoid about matched bettors they will ban legitimate users too and suffer financially...
Love how " Denise " doesn't need a 2nd name now as we all know who she is. Not quite Beyonce , Cheryl or Kylie mind you !
Denise looks fit mate..I love her quire boy harcut and her cute ferret face.
Now we all know why Denise from bet365 does not do interviews.Time the regulators got off their lazy ass and started doing something about these serious issues .Racing is losing more and more fans everyday.
If you keep winning or too much you're out. No matter which betting provider. Betfair is a betting exchange. Rather the problem here. In which countries, Betfair is still allowed.
@@CaanBerryProTrader Yes that's also right. This is more related to countries where you can still legally bet with Betfair. Without VPN. I also love Betfair. Everything else can be forgotten.
Thanks Caan, great video and insight.
Won about 8 grand on Unibet in a couple of months and they limited me to £20 a bet. Completely threw me off my betting and i couldnt win a fucking thing elsewhere. Was like 5 years ago but still pisses me off now.
I think that It wasn't value or 700£, but rather your name that they restricted your account. When stakes are high traders will look in to it, see your name that is well know in betting world. I have been match betting for few years, and never had a account closed in one day, usually it takes few months, despite taking ONLY value odds, price boost etc. (I dont do mug bets).
Another issue is: you talking about 2 extremes: One is you, well known trader and other compulsive gambler. Most of bookmaker customers are in a scale between this 2 extremes, and they have zero interest in value, and how all betting world works, they just want to bet on their fav team or have bit of fun on horse racing or casino and they are willing to pay for that.
Because majority of customers are "happy" bookmaking is (and will be) lucrative business.
@@CaanBerryProTrader it still could be related, to your ip number as they have it now. Most of them restrict vpn so if you try to open new account it is blocked immediately, before you even can open it.
Anyway like you say it might be related to stakes size and betting patterns only. I dont know how you bet on mo play, but I guess If anybody will start taking big arbs for few hundred pounds in his first day it will be restricted too.
these betting companies are pure scum they promote responsible gambling however as soon as a you win a few quid they ban you however I could lose my life to gambling and they wouldn't care this is complete injustice and the government need to do more about this issue.
Stake limitations are not a new thing, match booking is not suitable for winners. Profitable bettors aren't welcome in that shitty business model. I don't even know why actual profitable bettors still bet with theses bookies, it's time to move to sports trading (yes, it would be a whole new world for some people, but it shouldn't be hard for the ones who are used to bet). I mean, Betfair, Orbit or Betdaq will never limit you (well, at least in Betfair exchange that will never happen, can't comment about their bookie). By this time match bookers should be obsolete for dedicated bettors, they better come join us as new sport traders
Hi Caan have you come across any sites that don't mind match betters using there site, I have been capped on most bookies .
I have just opened a few accounts and I find it terrifying the offers to move everything to your phone. They are worse than smack dealers. Have a look at old snooker trophy presentations by the sponsors. The bookies and the tobacco directors even look fucking evil. Have a look.
I totally agree with you right on the (money) which is paired with greed and just appalling business conduct and morals. They are NOT only profiting from people's addictions, desperations and well being. They are making things worst !! Its shocking that as a country we are only just looking into the implications of mental health as a whole and those companies are allowed to profit from vulnerable people and take no responsibility for their actions. They are meant to contribute a certain % of the profits to help support people having gambling difficulties. But they dont! Be interesting to know how much tax they pay too ! Caan you are absolutely correct, it would be very easy to spot people betting irresponsibly and be to step in. But ummm that wouldn't make them any money. You don't think they have the customers best interests at heart ha ha.
How they can sleep at night I have no idea !! oh wait if I had 660M to spend on a bed. Id probably sleep very well
Also. I think some of these free matched betting services (won’t name a few) are bookie sympathisers. They provide links for sign ups & direct links on their odds marchers which they claim the bookie can’t see (yeah right)
Also in their Facebook groups they are heavy against multi accounting. I know it does go against the T’s&C’s but don’t tell me that before these people were taking a wage from the matched betting company that they weren’t multi accounting.
Not sure if I’m on to something or I need to take the tin foil hat off haha
I get all your points but Bookies need to chin the profitable punters because if they all had Lay to Lose £2000 for eternity then the bookies would go under. If a pro punter had 10 accounts he could bet to win 20K a race and if there's 50,000 pro punters then it would be game over anyway. No point complaining about it.... Just get around it whatever way you can (mug your sportsbook accounts up or stick to exchanges)
@@CaanBerryProTrader Not going to happen though is it. Most mugs don't even understand what 'lay' means. They like an acca or terrible Requestabet. Don't get me wrong I've been trading Betfair for 15 years and I love the exchange but its not the answer for everyone. And it's not realistic to expect that to ever change.
Fantactic comments. Top man👍
Good on you ....get right up them......
You're doing a good job there Caan.
Caan, what do you think about pinnacle sports?
cant belive just seen this now
I get chased out of betting shops for using betfair exchanges
BRIANS CAN I ASK YOU IS BETFAIR CREDIBLE OR NOT ARE THEY ON THE BALL WHEN MAKING PREDICTIONS I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK
You need a window mate and a plant 😂
Caan how do i start using markets what kind of bank roll do i need. how many hours a day do you work on this and is this your full time job.
It depends on the sport you are trading. Football? Basketball? Horse racing? They all have different markets, football has tons of markets, trade in those you feel the most comfortable, if you are talking about horse racing, well you have 3 TBP (or 2, maybe 4 or 5 depending on how much runners are about to participate), each way market, in some races you can bet between two horses (horse 1 versus horse 2, for example), and the most important one: the only winner market. It's all about you, bet in the ones you feel comfortable. And about the bank, well... if you are just getting into this and you have no experience please use a really small bank (€50, €100, €150 or maybe €200), if I'm not mistaken Caan recommends to start with €200 and opening operations with €5 which seems more than reasonable to me, I would recommend €100 with the minimum required bet (€2) for getting started, but that's just me, please, simply don't use money you will later regret losing. Be responsible, learning takes a lot of time and money, you will become better gradually
I get what you're saying Caan but for you to be a successful trader there has to be losers that's how capitalism works, I sure you know this, it's a tough issue to fully get people to understand and get the whole picture, you could say that successful traders are similar to bookmakers in the way, it's a bit ironic and slightly but hippocratical don't you think?
Think of the scalper. He backs at 4.6 and lays at 4.5. The guy taking the back bet at 4.5 could close out at 4.2. With the exchanges it’s slightly easier to sleep at night as you will never know whether the person your bet matches with ends up in profit or loss regardless of your end result.
Tell me how to earn
Topman Caan