Diablo Immortal: Is It Worth Playing F2P? (Diablo Immortal Review)
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2022
- Is Diablo Immortal worth playing? My free to play experience with diablo immortal. Diablo immortal free to play vs pay to win. Is Diablo Immortal pay to win? Diablo Immoral.
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I’ve always been a casual Diablo player, so the game doesn’t really bother me too much. I only do rifts and bounties while I’m taking a poop
Omega chad
You slaughter demons while taking a shit? that's awesome xD
We need more content like this - objective and giving it straight. And to answer your question about why they cater to whales, I suspect it's because the target market is Asia, where the mobile gaming market is much larger and where people don't have as much time (or have to pay for their time like PC Bang cafes) for PC gaming as in the west. Culturally, they don't have the same bias about fair play as westerners, nor is gambling (loot boxes for example) considered taboo there.
It makes sense too, i asked my Asian friend why they don't mind loot boxes and he made a valid point that i couldn't refute.
See I'd spend $90 per month on brand new games for my consoles, some of thiss games I'd play for a week, some less, some more.
But the time I'd spend would vary from 10 hours to 150 hours depending on the game. These games have no loot boxes and are your standard console games, all normal stuff really.
But when I'm not playing those games, I'll play a game called Runescape, I'll put my vast majority of my time on Runescape and Runescape is free to play, i can even exchange online currency for membership, so i do.
Now in terms of hours spent per month, Runescape takes the majority by a WIDE margin, but i refuse to pay for it, even though i have the most fun on it. The most time on it, yet I'll play it for free and attack the developers if they try to monetize it.
We Westerners are the ones who got it wrong, we will pay top dollar for a, now $60 for games that take 20-30 hours to beat and we'll seal clap and get excited over it.
But we mostly play free to play games where the developers dont charge us a dime to play if we wanna play for free, but give us the option to pay if we want better stuff and we'll attack them and call it "bad practice".
We're entitled consumers 😂
personally i think if you want to play f2p and be compairible to the current players its best to just level up and play for fun, and wait to see if they keep releasing f2p friendly content as of now they just made it eaiser to get legendary gems as f2p so thats nice and raises hopes for more such updates i know my clan is p2w and f2p mix
WoW! Bravo! 👏👏👏
Finally I see and hear a really objective opinion about this game that I've been playing for weeks now and I've been having fun! Everything you say is true, I feel you expressed what is right and fair. Thank you very much!
PD: I'm a WoW player for more than 15 years.
Nice review, good to hear some more positive views on the game. I always wondered whats the grind for the F2P player to get even close comparable level, but that seems impossible with the rune system. The game seems fun and the gameplay looks solid. Would deffinetly try and play this if there wasnt this whole monetization greedy leeching.
I personally cant see me even installing it on any device to support this p2w strategy where all competitive aspects are negated by credit card. Any good item that you have just reeks of money.
That's exactly how I feel as well. It's a shame They ruined it with the P2W
the most dangerous thing about this game is this game is actually good. the game play and graphics for mobile phone are the best.
they could have made pvp equalize gear and level..
How did u play ? Emulated or pc version? I am maybe interested to play with friend casually on/off. But wanted to clear some stuff before it. We are strictly non competitive, friendly coop only
As for your question. Answer from my point of view is simple. The money influx from whales is like meteor , but happy one. When it happens it happens BIG. So while game is hot they are exploiting that factor. And they will do it as long as they can. When that factor dies out, they will start switching to other people. But the thing is, that factor right now , its counting milions $$ daily! And that is super fast and quick income that is super favorable to them. Its cash in cash out, then switch to dry milk. What i am trying to say, is that income is monstrous. Over one month they grabbed more money then they would have over the entire year. People are greedy , people are gamblers and that is profitable
Good, solid review. Personally I hate pay2win aspects in games, and ive been trying to pursuade myself to try this game for a few weeks now as a zero-pay player, but I just can't seem to get over what this game stands for.
I completely understand. If the monetization was at a reasonable level I personally have no problem paying for a battle pass or cosmetics in a free to play game. Blizzard went too far with this one IMO. Unfortunately mobile games and some mmos have been leading us down this path for a long time. Could be such a good game. I think the outrage for this game is a bit extreme but I hope it actually results in some good changes in the industry but I'm very skeptical
I hope they get rid of the pay2win aspects there probably just in it for the money
Nice content man. Esp the cater thing.
This is perfect, I personally just want a game to pass time when I’m waiting around some where. I mainly play on PS5, Switch docked and PC, this seems like a great game for my purpose.
At the end the author asked "why mobile games are whales oriented". It is about finding people with addictive personalities. Most of customers refuse to pay for F2P, but you let them play to be a cannon fodder - potential opponent for a whale to make him feel better that he achieves sth in comparison to other players. Whales will be les than 5% of a playerbase but they will generate 50% of income. Whales are not necessarily rich, they just spend a lot and regularly. Sunken cost phallacy makes them loyal customers. As for your Walmart example- think of it as of free samples of whiskey. Most will just be there for a freebie. However some will spend their last money on bottles, the more they get wasted the more you can extract from them. F2P games are predatory as F.
Do you think the gameplay is better than other games such as Diablo 2R, Diablo 3 and Path of Exile? To me it just looks like a substandard version of better games in the genre. I get that people say relatively it's a good game on mobile, but then I just wonder who is playing mobile games over PC/console.
It's very close to d3. There are definitely better options on pc. Still a fun game and I enjoyed the mmo aspects but the p2w ruined it for me. I can see why an arpg fan would want something like this to kill time on their phone but the p2w is way too much
Congrats, very good and realistic review about Diablo Immortal!!!
Is there any lag like D3 ?
Short answer? No.
Long answer? Noooooooooooooo.
Agreed. Even though I really enjoyed playing the game with my clan, even that is not enough. I quit the game today thankfully without spending any money on it. In a way I'm still happy this came out because now people can see just how bad P2W can get
@@Newftorious You managed to escape without paying for anything, period? That's as close to "happily ever after" as I can possibly imagine for anyone who played this game. Well done!
@@vsGoliath96 yes. I gave it more than a fair chance but in the end it certainly did not earn my money.
Ok, so who plays for the story? Me and your review was mildly helpful. Thank you
The reason why most mobile games are cash grabs and only care about the 1% that spends $20-500k is because the goal is to make as much money in the shortest amount of time if you constantly follow that regiment you end up making more money even in the long run with new games coming out every year or two unlike cars that last for decades
I think because they aren't sure if they can make a good enough product that they resort to cash grabs. They would rather put out a low effort product and try to trick people into spending money on it.
Any rpg f2p multiplayer??
I respect your honesty diablo 3 can get equips without p2w thanks i re- downloaded it to play for fun
Im not into pvp, i am into the story & the loot. Is it worth it for that?
I would say it's worth for a mobile arpg, would rank the story higher than Torchlight Infinite
i actually like immortal. but im casually playing i have a full time job an really have no time for gaming an i always have my phone with me i havent bought anything
I mean, Android users can just use google opinion rewards haha, that's what I do.
I don't spend any actual real money on any game, period. Just whatever opinion rewards gives me, typically about $10 a week in my personal experience, I drive for a living so I get a ton of surveys about where I go ect.
Im free to play as well Did not spent a single penny in this game but im having so much fun by just playing day to day murdering demons!!
Sure, a f2p player won't be able to rank top in the leaderboards but there's still fun to be had seeing how far you can get.
I enjoyed the game even without spending a penny. I played it for the story and to have fun with new friends in the clan and warband that I joined. Being a hardcore whale-level gamer is not my intention. Plus, the community is surprisingly friendly and helpful to newbies. and all online games are literally pay-to-win because all of them follow the same marketing strategy of making money. Tell me a game that isn't P2W although some do it in a very subtle way that gamers may not be able to recognize it as such. and on my own personal opinion it's only fair that those people who are willing to spend lots of money becomes stronger than those who don't, I am not bitter about it.
If they would just price stuff reasonably it wouldn’t be as bad. I shouldn’t have to spend 10,000 dollars to play pvp.
Love how you assume we are gonna play on our phone lol 😆 but seriously it is good on mobile but still prefer it on PC
Buy a switch, heck buy a steam deck, both are a fraction of the cost to max out the graphics on a flagship phone.
Diablo story is usually good immortal fails at that but I'm excited for Diablo 4 story looks so much better
absolutely p2w in terms of PvP.. but it's still fun to play for f2p besides that.. so it's still worth to play as f2p.. there's other games that actually p2w even for PvE content, call it BDM for example, you can't even beat the PvE content as a f2p lol
It's the best review of the game I have heard so far .
Why tell people how to play if you don't know how to play?
What do you mean by that
Usually, there is a tradeoff between retention and revenue. The more greedy you are, the fewer players you have in the long run. On the other hand, the more you care about retention, the less money you make. As you mentioned, the sweet spot for most industries is not shifted toward whales.
Things are different in the mobile world. Most of us treat smartphone games as a quick break between our usual activities. It means that retention is flawed no matter what you do. There is even more to it. 1-2% of players who stay significantly longer than others happen to be also the payers.
So, in the end, the sweet spot is to care about whales. Of course, it's working like that because of the free-to-play microtransaction business model.
Just play Eternium or buy a Diablo game on a platform. This isnt worth it
Yeah... There are some major things you totally failed to mention.
Restrictions man. If one is super casual , like 2 hours a day, ignore this post and move on. Otherwise read.
Restrictions:... where to begin , game is designed with crippling limit. Once player obtains 6 uniques per day its done. No drops for you.
Farming dungeons? forget about it. Limitations on exp are monstrous. What that means is that you can do what ever is daily and then after that ur done. There is nothing more to gain from anything.
Farming normal gems? Same as everything above. Drop limits and bye bye.
Doing more then one hidden dungeon? Forget about it. Nothing drops from second dungeon at all.
So if you are grindy player. Know this, 3 hours daily top and you do everything game has to offer. After that u can leave as u wont get anything until tomorrow or unless u pay.
There are more limitations i just gave quick example. There are people with more experience then me , that compiled list of all gimping stuff in game. Just google it.
And as last note.. Crashes, man.. crashes are absurd. It will crash and crash and crash and crash ..and it will repeat crashing. Especially when u are doing some event. I had counted 32 crashes in that "fracture" event.
P.S
Forgot to say...rather important.
If anyone has played d3 before. An actual D3 , then one will know , that this? This diablo immortal is like washed , dryed, cripled, butchered arms and legs cut of version of the game you know as D3. From spells to items, to bonus on items, dungeons, Greater rifts?.. Forget about this. GO back to D3
Spending on this game is stupid. Just play Diablo 3 🤦♂
100% P2W
Let me clear up something for you pay to win affects every path of the game every path not pvp alone,magic find gives better gears,and paying gets more lv so easier and faster paragon leveling,pay to win affects challenge rift and we need to clear those to get better drops from things we kill,the game is heavily affected by money,while you play for fun and only a few hours and don't do pvp you for sure will say you having fun cause you have no goals in life,no real gamer plays a game to not be good and have the good stuff in the game if login in daily and playing knowing you will never get what others have is called fun cause you get to kill a few monsters and find a few shinning loots then you no real gamer just a fool who like pretty lights.
I said it affects all competitive aspects of the game. I also said I wouldn't recommend this to any serious gamer. You do realize that most adults who play games, play casually for fun right? They don't have the time to be a hard-core gamer. They're lucky to have an hour or two to spare in a day. Even if they wanted to be competitive, it's impossible.
@@Newftorious I watched the video an I heard all you said I'm just giving my say,this game isn't for casual players or free to play players plus why would a person who can only play a game for a hour play a online game the word online in games mean you have to be online! So how would they have fun not playing the game for a extent what they like pretty lights?there is no fun in this game when you are kept back with stealing your exp,you are limited to what gear you can wear cause you need level,you are kept from getting stronger unless you pay and you need yrs to have same power as some one who can get it in 5 minutes, where is fun in this game ?again I'm just saying what I can say not trying to debate you .
@@omarjohnson1336 I agree that the pay to win sucks but you can play all the content in this game for free. I completed everything free to play. This game can easily be played casual if you ignore the leaderboards and pvp. Everyone plays games differently. Without casual players most online games wouldn't make enough money to exist.
@@omarjohnson1336 You don't know a damn thing when it comes to casual players. I am a casual player and I get to play may an hour or 2 3 days out of a week, and a bit more on the weekends. Who the fck are you to describe what casual players are? I don't give a shit about end game, and I don't need to compare my dick size to the dweebs on the ladder. You need to get out of your mommies basement, and go outside and get a job and have a life. So what's it to you if i play a max of 6-8 hours a week? If I am enjoying playing the game, what the fck do you care?
@@Newftorious I hope you not trying to say casual and free to play should play this game because there is no fun for those players unless they like pretty lights,gamers don't play games to be the nothing in a game of have less cause they don't pay,real gamers aren't playing for pretty lights they playing to be good and that means pvp and doing everything a whale does you can't do everything a whale does in this game cause you can't access the power and that power makes you go further in the game so I can do everything a whale does is a big lie.
I know why game designers charge so much because they know people will pay and they don't give a shit about the consumer wallet. If they did there wouldn't be gambling systems.