Why Rich Eisen Agrees with Tom Brady Comments on NFL "Mediocrity" | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Rich Eisen weighs in on Tom Brady telling Stephen A. Smith that the current level of play in the NFL is mediocre.
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The NFL is 100% about maximizing profits right now. Everything else is a distant second. That includes quality of players, quality of officiating, and player safety.
💯💯💯💯💯💯 you said the quiet part out loud 😆😆
right now, as opposed to.... the 90's? the 70's when they smoked and drank beer in the locker room? it's always been this way.
Say it louder
A great product would maximize profits you would think
@@BoondockGoreNot if you actually think about it. Doing that costs money. Are you gonna watch on Sunday regardless? Then why pay?
If your backup QB is ready to play, then he’s probably on another team
Good one
Not every backup QB can be as altruistic as Josh Dobbs and Taylor Heinicke. Those guys are ballers, but they realize it's not worth it anymore to push for a starting job. So they choose to settle for a 7-figure annual salary while not being as banged up as the guy ahead of the depth chart.
Totally agree. I see guys like Trevor Lawrence for example throwing to receivers across the middle right into the defender and the defender literally unable to do anything about it and gets flagged for 15 yards. Are you kidding me? Don't make that throw. They're punishing defenses for offensive mistakes to quote Brady again. Then they're throwing stupid flags for taunting. Gimme a break
It used to be the job of the QB to protect their Receivers, and themselves. Now defenders have to do it. Its just not fair.
You have to let them catch the ball now
Brady always said he tried to protect his receivers. Against the Ravens Tom Brady wouldn't throw across the middle of the field because of Ray Lewis. He didn't want one of his teammates to get injured.
Yep we used to call those hospital passes.
Because it wasn’t working. QBs made mistakes and the receiver had to pay for the mistake of the QB. That wasn’t fair.
I noticed for a few years just how poor the tackling is in the NFL. It has to be the worst of any contact sport and this year has been particularly awful.
Defenders get their hands and arms on a ball carrier and they slip through with ease when they should have been tackled for a loss. When a defender has his arms all over the player they should not be able to get away and gain 20 yards. But it happens all the time. I see it every game. This would not have made Vince Lombardi happy. Butts would be kicked.
Tackling sucks because the techniques guys of the past used would now be fouls
@@HungryH1951I’d like to see what Vince Lombardi would say to his team trying to tackle monsters like Deebo Samuel, DK Metcalf or even Josh Allen. 6’6” 250lb QB’s who can run over or through anybody on the field didn’t exist 70 years ago…they didn’t even exist 30 years ago. The game is played by the biggest, strongest, fastest humans on this planet.
Tackling is bad because no one actually tackles. Everyone runs around trying to do collision hits with their head and they never even attempt a real tackle. They all draw in their little T-Rex arms and launch.
@@dhazelwood85 wrong… a perfect wrap-up “form tackle” is legal. Current players just take the “easy” way out.
I love how Rich doesn't miss a topic that's in the news to cover.
Ikr. What a tool. He could have voiced the opinion himself. But then there goes his partnership with NFL.What a corporate 🤡. 👎
@newagain9964 not the angle I was getting at. Plus talk shows don't do that they always need a seg way.
Who’s Rich?
@@Jakob_23bot be gone
@@Jakob_23 Rich was the name of your last boyfriend and you already knew that.
It’s also a transition out of an historic QB era.
With 8 of the Top 11 All-Time Passing leaders either retired or probably gone in 2-3 seasons, here’s a snapshot of them from 2019 - just 4 seasons ago
Brady - 16 games, 4057yds, 24TDs
Brees - 11 games, 2979yds, 27TDs
Rivers - 16 games, 4615yds, 23TDs
Ryan - 15 games, 4466yds, 26TDs
Rodgers - 16 games, 4002yds, 26TDs
Eli - 4 games
Roethlisberger - 2 games
It’s a decent vacuum that is very difficult to fill.
Every Patriots, Saints, Chargers, Hawks, Steelers, Packers and Giants’ QB will be compared to Tom, Drew, Philip, Matt, Ben, Aaron and Eli for a LONG time !!!
I love stats and data 📊. Thanks for putting this up. So now the question is, who’s going to replace those HOF’ers? Granted, it took each one of them to become as great as they are.
I was thinking about this the other day as well. Well said.
1972 - The 17- 0 undefeated Dolphins QB's threw for a grand total of 14 TD's all season
2002 - Brady led the NFL in passing TD's with only 28
And DOME QB's vs Non DOME QB's have a massive advantage.
Brady played 90% of his career 8 times a year at cold and windy Foxborough
Manning and Brees played almost the same amount of games under the DOME
I can only imagine Brady's numbers if he played his entire career at home under a Dome.
I told a buddy to try this. Play pass with a football in a warm gym inside in December then go outside and play with the wind at 36 MPH and -6 degrees.
I respect guy's like Brady, Rodgers, Favre .. Not so much Manning or Brees.
@@miketemple7686
Mahomes
Burrow
Allen
Hunt
Herbert
Stroud
Purdy
@therotten6152 Look at around 2009 or 2010. That was a damn golden era of QB play compared to now. Old guys like Favre and Warner, with lesser old guys like McNabbb, Delhomme, Hasselbeck,
Then you had the 'new guard' of Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Ryan, Stafford, Flacco, etc.
And then the 'Serviceable or better' group of QBs like Romo, Palmer, Schaub, Dalton, Cutler, Orton, Alex Smith, Fitzmagic, hell even Mark Sanchez made the AFCCG at that time. Thats like 2 dozen QBs who ALL had pretty damn good careers aside from maybe Schaub and Sanchez, who both had a handful of really good seasons.
Nowadays you have half of the league with a horrible QB situation. Mac/Zappe, Fields/Bagent, Pickett, Wilson/Boyle, Watson/DTR, JimmyG/O'Connell, Minshew/Richardson, Jones/Devito, Love, Dobbs, Bryce Young, Ridder, Levis/Tannehill, and even Stafford has sucked. That's half of the league with no chance against a good roster. Pretty sad that Minshew and Dobbs are 2 of the best on that entire list
Rich is absolutely the best!!!! He is relatable, honest, and intelligent. He is always a great listen.
except he lacks critical thought. The media and people like Eisen share blame. If a QB is drafted round 1 and they don't look like a future HOF by mid season, the media and Rich pan them as terrible, then the team cuts the player leaving no development.
@@beargrills1290Well that’s not on Rich or the media though. You can say the backlash from the media can cause players to lose confidence which could then lead to poor play but if players get cut that’s because of their own poor play not because the media paned them as terrible.
@beargrills1290 well if that true how come Wilson only just got benched by the Jets ?
And he doesn't dismiss what others who know what they are talking about say. Cowherd actually had the audacity and inflated self worth to get up there and say, "I disagree with Brady", and go into some idiotic diatribe like he's the expert. Like he knows more about any aspect of football than Brady does? That's why players and coaches get annoyed with the media. You get these guys who instead of listening and maybe learning something, think the coaches and players are idiots and they know better.
Games just don’t feel like a battle the way they once did. Every other play is a penalty, hitting the quarterback is a capital crime, finesse has usurped physicality.
Agree. These dudes are warriors. Let them be warriors. Dudes like Ray Lewis couidnt play today , he would be suspended from most games.
@@litedawgI'd say half of the defensive players before 2010 or so would be suspended. Ed Reed, John Lynch, Urlacher, B Dawk etc
i hear what is being said. However, these athletes are beasts- if you let them hit the QB as in the old days you will not have any starting QBs left- it is that simple. In addition, low score games are not in vogue now-
For the first three weeks you could argue the bears don’t deserve pay
Haha oh man as a Lions fan that was us saying that but for many more weeks than 3.
Many teams are like them, unfortunately. However, our coaches suck more than our players, IMHO. LOL
Some teams should be paying fans to show up.
@@wiplash123987Bears are the same stage of rebuilding as Lions were last year. So hopefully we can turn things around. But yall have much better coaches. Much respect to Campbell, dudes awesome.
Not just the Bears, what about the Broncos, Raiders, Panthers Giants, there's been plenty of teams stinking out the house
What keeps me from watching the NFL more are all the commercial breaks. Like a cartoonishly insane amount of commercials. The reason why I only watch NFL Redzone anymore
I record every game. I fast fwd through all the commercials. The game has usually been going about 1/2 hour before I turn on the recording. I never watch even one commercial.
I either watch redzone or just catch the highlights of games on CZcams after that fact. I am not sitting through 3 hours of commercials and horrible refing to watch the 20 plays in the game that actually mattered.
The problem I have is with CTE coming to light and NFL decided it was a good idea to add in an extra game. The whole league is a joke.
They took away a preseason game to extend the regular season
@@joshramirez7 they should've kept the preseason game
So that slow starters like Joe Burrow actually have a chance of getting MVP.
I don't discount CTE and head injuries but there's gotta be way to split the difference and keep the game tough like it used to be, at this point just put flags on the players and call it flag football
Shrinking preseason has not helped the reg season at all.
Defenders not knowing where or how they're allowed to tackle is the worst thing that's happened to football in recent years
I recently watch a game of the Steelers vs the Oilers from 1978. And it was the most entertaining game I ever saw!! By the 3rd quarter, the score was only 3 to 3 but the game was loaded with action!! So many fumbles and turnovers, 2 guys from each team left the game with broken ribs!! It was a nailbiter till the end!! Both teams hated each other and there were so many on field fights!! Real feud, real Football!!
Thank you for saying this Rich. It’s an important conversation for the league’s future and you nailed it. You nailed basically every point eloquently.
I do mostly blame the owners. They’re the ones most vested in this product and they allowed the players to continually water down practice. They’re also the ones who don’t think a minor league is worth the investment. They’re also the ones who keep voting on these rules changes. Please keep talking about this.
Everyone in the mlb thought minor leagues were stupid, until Branch Rickey (when he was with the cardinals before bringing in jackie robinson with the dodgers) started them to tons of criticism and skepticism. Those cardinals dominated until every other team made their own minor leagues
It was the NFLPA who got the change at the players request. It has zero to do with the league or the owners. Practice is shorter because that’s what the players wanted and got it in the NFLPA agreement.
@@LilSebastian_I'm not saying you're wrong, but from listening to players talk I don't think they like the NFLPA. Some of them make it sound like it was just a hill they chose to die on for bargaining power.
@jlrick98 It is a hill, but it's the only hill the players have. Without the NFLPA owners definitely would demand more from players, without added bonuses or pay.
The problem is that when these young QB’s don’t develop on the team timeline, they are quick to be called Bust by the media who then encourage their team to move on from them. We live in a disposable society and the qb is the 1st to be disposed of. On to the next.
The good ones are just good dragging bums along isn't going to make it better
100% true. It’s happening currently with my Bears. Justin Fields has a skill set that few QBs in the league possess but because our doofus coaching staff can’t build an offense for him, now we’re in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. And guess what? We’ll probably ruin him too.
@conbitches yeah hes had the skill set of a runningback which make a bad qb. They should make him play a taysom hill role.
@@SunShine-xc6dh Funny, they used to say that about Lamar Jackson and then look what happened when they decided to build an offense around him instead of forcing him to run the Joe Flacco offense.
@@conbitches he's still mid at best qb being out scored by a backup, Josh Dobbs?
Especially with the newer rules to protect quarterback and encourage offense…so many mediocre or terrible teams
The worst team of today would win any Superbowl in the 70s tho. Remember when we thought Refrigerator Perry was big? Todays O-line would truck ANY D-line, and today’s DE’s would be unblockable.
@@CorePathway Yeah, the technology is better, and the players are more juiced and trained with proper diets, but the toughness is not the same.
@@scratchpenny we agree
@CorePathway no they wouldn't and the fridge was the same size as lineman today...they let them get much bigger than 335
@@CorePathway You need to stay off the crack. Just say no… 😂😂😂
The number of penalties has gotten so bad it's left the live game unwatchable for me !! The frustration of EVERYTHING being called has forced me to tape games enabling me to fast forward to see if the play counts !! I dont watch football to see middle aged men tell me why that perfect tackle was wrong !!!
Most of the time, the best way to watch a game is using the NLF You Tube game highlight videos; no filler plays, no TV ads, no long penalty discussions, not time outs or half time stoppage. Just all the important plays condensed in a 10 minute video. You can watch 6 games in 1 hour.
Agree. The only time I watch a live game now is if I'm bored and can't find anything else to do. End up just watching the game highlights on Hulu. The league has fallen a long way from where it used to be, and I couldn't care less.
I definitely remember this era of involuntary but really mandatory things lol
Corporate America is like that...
@@marcusaurelius5149Way to make it weird, guy. Marcus Aurelius would be so very disappointed in you 😢
I remember Tom Coughlin having a policy that if you weren’t 10 minutes (or whatever it was) early for a team meeting, you were late.
@@marcusaurelius5149 lol keep voting Biden
@@markpage9886 It's not involuntary. You can always work somewhere else.
Lets talk about the mediocre officiating 😂
Yea its been sooo bad
Its been very inconsistent and the penalties are game changing
It’s also leading to the increase in player injuries. Joint and soft tissue injuries are increasing every year. They’re blaming it on the turf fields but I think it’s more related to lack of contact in practices
Rich's knowledge and level-headedness is like no one else in NFL media. He's willing to tell it like it is even when it's criticizing the product that it's his job to promote.
Maybe they need a minor league program
the only part where I feel like the product is bad is inconsistent reffing that cant have quick reviews for major calls and the miniscule amount of contact it takes to get a roughing the passer call. I think defenses have just gotten a bit smarter about stopping explosive player the last two years and guys are getting more injuries as other guys get bigger, faster stronger but tendons and ligaments simply dont.
Rich, I love the idea. These owners should get together and help develop these QBs. I'm with ya, this is ridiculous that seasons are thrown into the trash bin because our backups blow.
It doesn't help that the most interesting play is a glorified qb sneak, that reffing is inconsistent, the defense isn't allowed to play, and players aren't allowed to have a personality.
the NFL is diluting the game on behalf of corporate interests and casual fans. the league is okay with neglecting its base if it means maximizing profits at the expense of a quality on-field product. this generation of players is soft bc that's all they know.
That's why they had to bring Taylor Swift in. 😂😂😂😂
Tom Brady doesn't need any credible backing... he has 7 SB's ... but thanks Rich.
You tell them Clint
Brady is right. I definitely don't watch as much NFL as I used to because everyone is soft and it's a watered-down product.
Its a terrible product.
Lemme guess, you are a Patriots fan 😂
Thank you Rich, for being a man of integrity.
Totally agreed, great segment Rich! The NBA is finally putting more emphasis in its developmental league and I think it is paying some dividends than just drafting guys after one season of college ball, or even two seasons in college. You need to improve your depth in this day and age where guys seem to get hurt so much more often than in the past for a myriad of reasons (faster, stronger, less technically sound) players overall.
I just caught Brady's interview with Stephen A. Smith and he said something that you never hear anybody around the game say, especially not from an offensive player, and that is that with all these rule changes that penalize the defense for hits or contact, how about the offensive players take some responsibility for being better at protecting themselves. He's right! There are WAY too many guys who have no clue how to get down at the right time, get out of bounds, or simply lower their pad level, things that guys were taught to do for GENERATIONS prior to this one in the last 10 years.
My favorite thing about what he said was when he talked about playing against Ray Lewis and that vaunted Ravens defense. He said, "I didn't throw over the middle to my receivers because I didnt want to lose that receiver the next week. I had to find another way to beat them." Just the level of respect and fear he had for that opponent, and those defenses back in the day, MADE him have to adjust his game and be a better player. THAT is what's missing in today's game, that 'appropriate fear' teams have when facing each other because the level of physicality can end your season at any moment on any play. You couple that with Rich's point about developing talent in different leagues before guys come to the NFL, and it's no wonder we're seeing a lot of really ugly, low scoring, offensively and defensively inept games out there this season
Oh yeah, the guys coming out of the NBA's G-League Ignite team have been great for their respective teams.
Grady Jarrett had an awesome sack on Tom Brady in 2022. Beautiful textbook sack. Put the Falcons in position to win. He was flagged for it. Bucs ended up winning. The NFL is not for me anymore.
Rigged or soft. It doesn’t matter, it’s unwatchable I agree.
Yep and Brady b*tched to the refs about it too to get the flag lol pot calling the kettle black
And just in case you have selective memory keep in mind Brady's been sacked an astronomical NFL RECORD *564 times* about twice as many times as Montana was.
@@youthinkyouknowme5551What did you think would happen with Brady playing that long? And how does this have anything to do with the actual post?
@@youthinkyouknowme5551 he played 8 more years.
I been saying this all year. Finally some validation
What do expect, half of these QB’s are drafted by coaches that are on the hot seat and looking for a savior
TB 12 has been talking about this for the past couple of years
Imagine not realizing that we are undergoing a shift from crazy hyper offense to defense. The pass rushers and corners in the league nowadays are insane. It’s a shift that’s been going on for almost a decade now
QBs also don't process a defense like the ol' days anymore. Most of them are too focused on being a dual-athlete with running ability that they never learn to stand in the pocket and deliver a strike while taking a hit. Instead they use their speed and shiftyness to try to gain a few yards, and don't gain as much experience as a true passer. Nowadays they are learning on the fly and it can make for a worse on-field product.
I will give credit though, I think Lamar especially has shown dramatic improvement as a passer. Obviously Allen too, who had a totally jacked up throwing motion when he entered the league, but still doesn't have great decision making. Colleges also just use these athletes in this manner more, because they want to win and don't care about development as much as NFL teams obviously.
I have been asking this question of radio personalities and fans for 2 years now. I thought it would take more effect in 2022 but this year you see it. We went from 50pt shootouts in the Goff/Mahomes uprising to the literaly two best teams in the league struggling to score 20 on each other.
And good coaches, like Bill and Tomlin and Reid, saw this ahead of time and tried to build their lineups to it. For some it just isn't working but this big debate in NE and PIT about QB play and play calling and "not exciting football" is quite literally a sign of the times whether it is working or not.
No. The League is a pendulum of D and O. It swings every decade or so. I am remembering the Bears and Ravens, and LT. If the rules and The League are going to make QB paramount? Good coaches and organizations say, How can we defeat this? Edge rushers are crazy gifted athletes, and should get their due. From a fan who enjoys defense, who enjoys great play from each side of the ball.
Thanks Rich --
that was a great video
Blame Peyton Manning’s crying in the early 2000’s for much of defensive rule changes. It really has become hard to watch with all these flags that shouldn’t be. Football is a contact sport, so don’t cry when contact happens.
Tony Dungy and Bill Pollian were tired of Patriots defense shutting them down in the play off so they had rules changed.
@@patrickmoylan5983 Don't worry though, the Brady haters are all here making sure you think it was all that darn Tom Brady's fault. The rule changes were all to help them win, er, I mean cheat! (dripping sarcasm if you missed that)
What an awful take. There’s a difference between arguing that existing rules weren’t properly enforced versus the creation of modern day safety rules that defy logic and the concept of a contact sport that have completely changed the game. You are conflating the issues.
Rich is right - if I was a depth-chart player in the NFL, I would absolutely spend my spring in the XFL. In addition to staying in game-shape, the ability to take the opportunity for more coaching and additional eyes/feedback on your game. Might find a magical golden nugget that completely transforms your game and turns you into a high-demand starter in the NFL.
They can't if they're under NFL contract.
I have to disagree with Rich Eisen 100% and call BS. Look average size QB isn't even close to the 80's, 90's or 2000's. So you want to talk about QB's going down because of physical size. Also I never ever seen a backup QB outside of Steve Young or Aaron Rodgers that could take over for the starting QB and give you a chance to win. Backup QB was lucky to get 6 wins in a season if the starter went down. This offseason workout another BS call. Most players worked 2 a days or 3 a days before heat exhaustion became a problem.
@@Henderson1011won't be an issue for depth guys cause they hardly get any snaps and they're all usually getting cut at the end of the season. Totally worth it to just go play some Spring football.
I've been an nfl fan for over 50 years and i can't watch anymore, I can't even watch a highlight video. It's disgusting.
But you watch NFL Network? You are full of it.
Tom Brady also benefited from these rules as well -
i say it all the time, the NFL needs a minor league like the NHL has. no reason to have guys not play and get better when they could be playing.
NFL players take their opportunities for granted. You get paid MILLIONS of dollars to play a sport. Take it seriously, like someone who gets paid millions of dollars. I make less than $50,000 a year..
We'll see where it goes from here--it's possible that this is just a period of transition. We lost Brady, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers, and Ryan all pretty much at once, much like 1983. That was the year that Howard Cosell had declared the NFL a "malignant bore" and quit Monday Night Football, and a lot of the stars of the '70s had either retired or were washing up. The Cowboys, Steelers, and Vikings were in decline. The rise of the Bears hadn't happened yet. Joe Montana and the Niners won a Super Bowl, but then finished 1982 with a losing record and just barely scraped into the '83 playoffs, so they weren't seen as legends yet. And of course there were the bad vibes of the '82 strike itself. The NFL was perceived as in trouble in '83 and a few years later that was all forgotten and the League had a new crop of superstars in Marino, Elway, Rice, LT, and others. Is that going to be true here? We can only wait and see.
I think you might be into something. I mean despite the mediocrity around the league, I have been very happy with how the Lions have been playing. They are winning games in all kinds of fashion. Plus the storyline of Goff being rejected by every and taking the team that no wanted to play for to the SB would be an insane one.
Time really is a flat circle. 40yrs later it feels like we're going through a similar kind of transition period
Idk, there has been so many rule changes to penalize the defense it really has turned into a bore.
Glad to hear Rich say this publicly. Staffs need year-round contact w/the roster. OTAs need to be mandatory and they have to play in at least one preseason game. Most of all, more padded practices during the week. Expanding the rosters would help a lot. Go to 60, dress 60 on Sunday. 3 QBs, 3 LTs, an extra corner, etc.
I know I'll probably take crap for this, but I also think having quarterbacks rely more on their athletic ability has also been good for highlight reels but overall a net negative.
Mahomes would be an anomaly to that, but i also agree nonetheless
@@Enzo575 Yes, but that's because he's a thrower, first and foremost. There are a lot of guys in the league who are the opposite, and it does hurt passing games.
@@scratchpenny in the Giants case, the O-Line is that bad Danny running in his sleep
Yeah in everything there's going to be outliers like Patrick mahomes is awesome and I will not ever say otherwise. I also actually think Lamar is developing nicely as well, but that's probably because of all the reps he's taken.
Nah you are dead on! In college they don't gain the experience to stand up in the pocket and deliver a dart. They rely on speed and escapability, and broken down plays now instead. Not many guys with the playstyle of Jared Goff these days. Brady had the most insane pocket awareness of all time and could change the entire pocket with 1 small, subtle sidestep or step forward. Most guys today just don't learn that skill
Glad Brady said it .....the product is pretty abysmal for many games. It is clear the first 4 or 5 games are actually the pre-season and then injuries hit....but many teams want to bet on a rookie QB maybe being almost decent so they can field a team and not overpay for QB....so rookie QBs get rushed into starting where many could use a couple years to understand the game
You have to pay so much for your "franchise qb" who might be in reality just above average, and if you don't win a sb in the first few years you'll be screwed further down the line...
@@ericbeal4688and sometimes that highly paid "franchise qb" is actually lower than average.
Yes! Yes! Thank you Rich! Agree completely!!
K Jack getting suspended for legal and non-malicious hits proves Brady’s point.
Dude he launches his head at people on every play. He's basically the new Sendejo.
@@173jaSon371 Why wasn’t he flagged then? It was a turnover so you know they reviewed it. They could have thrown it at any time if they felt it should have been thrown. Dobbs was a running back and therefore not protected as a QB on that play. K Jack has been playing like this since he entered the league in 2010 and only now does the NFL have a problem with it. They want revenge for bounty gate since it tarnished their image and they are taking it out on K Jack and Sean Payton when the hit wasn’t malicious.
Owners dont care cause there is no penalty for sucking other than bad press. Whether they finish first and everyone is healthy or last with 2 or 3 career altering/ending injuries they make money.
Yup. It’s so corporatized it’s nauseating. Same with the NBA
Bad teams definitely make less money
@@SunShine-xc6dh well yeah but theyre all outrageously wealthy regardless. And most of the owners have investments in so many other businesses, etc, these teams are just a part of their portfolio. As long as their ROI is decent, they’re happy
Man I love Tom and Bill, can't wait till Bill does his post-retirement Football Life type thing and has his own quotes like this. That man is the most persecuted guy who is good at his job and he has been a saint in patience never blowing up about it like other coaches.
I love Bill belichick and all he has done with out Tom
..... When can nI stop waiting
The nfl insists on creating rules that not only make little to no sense, they have made the games nearly unrecognizable from just 10 yrs ago.
Plus its boring.
Solid take for sure! 👌
NFL product has been mediocre for some time, at least for the past decade. plenty of blame to go around
Very good points and very well said. The NFL should have no say what teams can do regarding THEIR off season to get BETTER. They start every year, learning on the fly, and preseason is a joke to starters because they just don't want to get hurt. Thanks for this video.
Actually the NFL should because there's a lot of profit sharing in the NFL. It's a lot like communism and the billionaire owners love it.
This was your BEST episode so far..........FIX THE NFL
Talk about Rich!! Word
Couldn't agree more with you and Tom. I also think teams are going into the season not fully prepared because of the new schedule and fewer preseason games. And, with all the new technology, it disturbs that there are so many season ending injuries across the league. If the NFL really cared about player well being and safety they would eliminate artificial surfaces and go to natural grass. Also soccer games are on grass and they do not have anywhere near the ACL injuries.
Agreed but also soccer players aren't 6'4" 250 running a 4.4 40 and asked to bend and move the way NFL players are on every single snap. Not a jab at you but huge difference in futbol and football. The biggest soccer players are what, MAX 170-180? If that? I'm 6'1" 180lbs, I can tell when I gain some weight how much it impacts my joints. I run every other day, been military and sports my whole life. Big difference on your joints when you're bigger and asked to do intentional physical push pull contact. Soccer it's mostly running around in the open and nowhere near the level of contact of American football. Again, not a knock on soccer but just not an accurate comparison.
@@Bamaboy813 Your point is well taken. I still think natural turf will still help with injuries.
So do you have any ideas how to keep the injuries down. I don't mean injuries caused by contact but ham string and ACL. More conditioning during the off season? So many young players out this year. It seems to get worse each season.
@@elaineres1 it depends who you ask. I've heard some trainers and physical therapists say it's just too much size on the joints. Someone 5'10" isn't naturally supposed to weigh 220 and run and cut like an NFL player does. I'm 38 and the physique of these guys over the years has changed radically but the short answer is muscle isn't very flexible and lack of flexibility can result in muscles not being stretched out and put more strain on tendons and ligaments to pickup the slack and eventually boom injury.
CTE is very real though. One of my high school buddies who never played past community college sits there and acts like he’s trying to bite his own ears randomly. It can be worrying but other than that, he’s a normal family man working a 9-5.
Fake news
$250 million salaries are also real. Cry me a river.
@@utmosdemos3645and back talk comes with consequences.
Great points!!!
There have always been a lot of bad teams in the NFL, they started changing the defensive rules back in the 70's because as Gil Brandt (GM of the Cowboys) said: 'the NFL got tired of games ending 10-3'....nobody wants to go back to a time where the Atlanta Falcons could give up 9 points a game and finish 7-7 like in 1977
Miss TB12! The GOAT 🐐 speaking facts 🔥💯👊🏾
Tom is 100 % right not only is the NFL soft our whole society turned soft and it pathetic
Facts.
Please explain how our society has turned soft and pathetic.
speak for yourself. when did tom say society is pathetic?
Rich nails it as usual.
If anyone doubts Brady on this - the man dominated the NFL in his 40s? Was it really because he was so so much better than everyone or because the opposition was not as strong to compete with a man that played against all-timers
Overall I think he's right. I was watching Zack Wilson against the Bills. Even Josh Allen as good as he is, is so sporadic. Russell Wilson vs. Josh Dobbs. And Dobbs is a great story, but just not very exciting play overall. Seems the defenses are better with all the focus on protecting players.
I’ll never get the Dobbs push it was a money grab to keep the Vikings relevant. Worst sale on defense I’ve ever seen. Rigged as all getout. Low quality way to sabotage Heinicke.
@@maskcollector6949Dobbs is the best QB on that team period!
@@biggteez12 Lol no he just has rushing upside but his passing game is meh.
Absolutely right!! The way the NFL was in the 90s was so much better. Today's NFL is a hot mess seriously.
The other side of what Brady said is college players aren't nearly developed to the level that Brady's generation was. So to Rich's point, the backup QBs aren't developed enough out of college, and they aren't developed in the pros either. Brady had a year with the Patriots and learning the playbook before Bledsoe's injury provided his opportunity. He didn't have a great arm, but he knew the playbook and had the game sense to protect his receivers.
I'm probably missing something here. If the problem is with voluntary practices being mandatory, why not just make them mandatory?
If you wanna make a change like that the NFLPA would have to agree. Since you add work for the player they would ask for something in return, maybe more days off during the season or higher share of the revenues and the owners would probably say no.
After the season you need a month to decompress and recover minimum that right there puts you at mid March, most of the guys in the NFL train and condition on they're time like Rice, Owens, Payton etc. it ultimately comes down to how bad do you want it?
All these injured QBs...
.... Tua is still standing
He’s surprised me forsure. Going into the season I was thinking man dolphins got a really good team but there’s just no way tua stays healthy. Before it seemed like anytime he got hit he would smack his head on the ground super hard, it was odd it was like he didn’t know how to fall and anytime he did he took maximum damage. Hell that 1 doctor that first discovered and gave a name to CTE had an interview where he recommended retirement for tua so I thought a couple hits and he’ll be out by like week 3 or 4 but he proved me wrong so far
The jiu-jitsu training in the off-season must have helped him learn to fall
Shut up....The Universe will hear you. GO Fins!!!!
Excellent video. Tom Brady is correct. The NFL is flat-out atrocious. Too many games are unwatchable. Teams' offenses are horrible. Where are all the good quarterbacks now? Boy, do I miss watching the Magnificent One, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Big Ben, Drew Brees, and others! The NFL golden age is over!
Fantasy, Gambling, Analytics, Rule changes, Cuddling players, The Offense Show, 400+ yards games, 4th down plays, 2 point conversions, not kicking field goals, no extra points, limiting the defense capabilities with penalties, protecting some players over others, social media, DEI, ESG, etc, etc! Pick one or a bunch of them! They're Destroying The Game! They're turning it into a Show!
It’s a WWE show
In truth, all quality is down across the board in many sectors. Everyone who works in major corporations can feel it.
I bet Tom Brady is referring to the NFL starting Desmond Midder over the qb who outplayed him twice when they matched up. Arthur Smith and Arthur Blank need out of the NFL.
As a Falcons fan I was so happy when Blank bought the team. Now , I don’t even watch the Falcons anymore . He is pathetic.
@@litedawg Combine that with the obvious tankjob the Falcons team did to get Ridder back on the field and I think the Tom Brady criticism is warranted. You can't tell me ATL didn't sell the Vikings game to Dobbs, signed, painted, and sealed. He was undeserving of the push and so were the Vikings, but because they're a blue chip franchise the NFL wanted to keep selling tickets and jerseys they opted to keep pushing Vikings so they could lose in or narrowly miss the playoffs. Miss me with your shite script writing NFL. Just let the teams play or have the FBI shut down the whole gambling circus. There's no integrity in the sport it's no different from the WWE with football. ATL has both Arthur's as McMahon now that Snyder is gone. It's not good tv it's how you lose a franchise and have to sell it.
That’s rich coming from a guy who feasted on mediocrity in his division for over two decades!
Talking about bad divisions what about Peyton Manning in the AFC South or Aaron Rodgers in the NFC North. The bills Jets and dolphins all made the playoffs when Brady was with the Patriots. When was the last time that the Lions made the playoffs? How many times was the Titans jaguars and Texans in the playoffs when Manning was with the Colts. Don't say it's just AFC East that was mediocre.
@@Dennis-nm1jm that’s fine…but they aren’t the ones playing the “back in my day” game.
Imagine making millions of $$$ for playing a couple of weeks a year and demanding more free time...
You mean playing September, October, November, December, potentially into January and February. Sooooo 6 months of the year with games not to mention training camp in August.
Preach it brother.... can't recall a season where I feel I am at a game back on Friday night high school before the dance. Poor quality.
Rich is spot on...👍
The NFL was a beautiful game when I started watching in the late 70s and 80s. There was good balance between offense and defense. Free agency and the salary cap, I hate to say, has robbed the league of true dynasties where the team lineups stay together for years. Now, all you need is a great QB and a few all-star players and the rest is interchangable. Younger, less talented players make rosters now in place of solid veterans just because of the salary cap. Less practice time in training camp and the regular season has hurt player development. Too many rules against defense has robbed us of truly "great" defenses. I'm fine with outlawing head shots but there's too many calls against simple hard hits. I won't say the league is "soft" but it's much softer than before and it's just not a beautiful game anymore. Oh, and the new uniforms are hideous (Rams, Titans, Falcons, Dolphins, etc)!
But you are gonna watch on Sunday am I right?
Under the salary cap and the idea of parity, every team should have a record between 10-7 to 7-10. Expansion has diluted the product. I think the lack of true practices is hurting the league. The excessive dropped passes is just inexcusable.
No new teams have been added since the 2000s golden age
@@SunShine-xc6dh True, but overall decline can have a lag effect. Why the poor product? Kids leaving college early, coaches are having to go soft on the players, NFLPA has too ouch power?
@bradg.5253 the rules have been drastically altered with more changes each year. Games are decided by refs as much as players. Can throw no problem a flag will bail you out
I remember years ago when McCarthy would run his QB School with Packers QBs long before anyone else reported. And whenever Matt Flynn stepped in for Rodgers, he looked like an all-pro.
What they call "mediocrity," I see more as parity. The divide between 1 and 32 is far tighter than it was in the past.
So there is a team that 1-9 and another that's 9-1. We didn't just see an ancient scoring record that could have been broken if the coach Said kick a field goal instead of take a knee
Brady was one of the QBs that bitched and moaned the most when he got hit. It all started to preserve him and the Mannings.
No, it was going that way because of the league and the further corporatization of the product. Brady complained on the field, sure, but the reason it is the way it is today is way above his paygrade.
@@scratchpennylet’s be honest it wasn’t just Brady that complained on the field so let’s not make it seem like Brady was the only one doing it. U don’t and never see Brady tapping his helmet looking for a flag when a defender hits it
Considering the tantrums and bitching BRADY did about being hit is why we have a new roughing the passer criteria 😂😂😂
Um... not so much. he played for 22 years and the first 12 years were a bloodbath
He lost an entire season from what would likely never happen today
Now, I totally get it, Beadyw was a complainer and was always in the Refs ear... But he took a beating for a long time before the NFL got softer
Rogers hit started it all not Brady.
@@Alaskancruiser Nope it was when BRADY broke his leg and everyone was like we have to protect our stars for TV
@@Andrew_M_WardThat’s because the NFL made a new roughing the passer rule after that happened.
@@AlaskancruiserActually no, the illegal low hit on QBs was because of Brady’s injury.
Rich,
Glad you are addressing this problem in the NFL!
I’m gonna bring up the W-Elephant in the room!
Have you noticed a decline in the Quality of Play in the entire league since Tom Brady left last season?
I have!
Eisen, No body could barely touch Brady without a flag. Tuck rule that should have went in Raiders favor changed Brady and Patriots history.
Cool story. That has nothing to do with the topic.
That's not even what Brady's talking about.
The Tuck rule was called 12 to 15 times a season until it got eliminated. The Raiders had a chance to win that football game but they didn't do it. Don't blame the Raiders failures just on one call
@@Dennis-nm1jm Ok, who brings out a snow plow so any team can kick a winning field goal. Yes, that was a fumble and yes clearing the snow made a difference in the Patriots winning as well. Yes , Yes Yes that was a fumble. One play does make a difference in a game. Brady would not have lasted in the Montana era
The next round of old vs new generation. Both wrong and both right
I don't even like Tom like that, but he is 100% right
I love how people get max contract deals.. and contract deals keep getting better and none of these max deals win super bowls lol
Tom is right
Tom benefited form the rule changes he now derides.
Tom Brady also played against the likes of the 2000 ravens defense. People forget when he first started, defense was still defense. Of course he's going to use whatever rule changes come up to his advantage, that's just being smart.
The Drew Bledsoe hit that gave Tom Brady a career would get you banned for life in 2023. Brady benefited from the rules in the latter half of his career, but he still came up in an era where the NFL actually valued hard-hitting defense.
Rich is completely correct! I just have one question (in context of his points made). How do we explain Brock Purdy?
You don't he's big 🐔 brock
I do notice that a lot of players have off season workouts these days.
It’s the ownership greed during the bargaining with the players, where they give the players all this time off to make sure they still maintain financial security.
I made a comment at the outset of the video and appreciate that you mentioned it as well .
Why does the table exclude 1987?
Finally! Thank you Rich and (something I'm almost loathe to say) thank you Tom Brady. It's a combination of factors: Too many games, too little practice, poor officiating, rules that devalue defense, and (dare I say it) too many teams. I've all but stopped watching the pro game because of it
Rich thank you for the in-depth take instead of the low-hanging fruit of "Bah Tom this, Tom that." Thank you for explaining it so well and in-depth. Had no idea this could be a factor of why new players look so unprepared now.
This is the first yr in over 20yrs i haven't watched the nfl officials has ruined the game flags every play giving teams wins that should lose sick of it not watching anymore until officials are held accountable for bs calls
Listen to Rich acting like 'winning' is the bottom line for most NFL owners.
this is the result of pushing out coaches like gruden that are in favor of football not maximizing profits one way or another..this is what happens when nfl office invests more off the field rather than on the field
Yeah the players don’t want to practice don’t want meetings don’t want press conferences. It’s the players.
What drives me nuts is that teams will hold onto and recycle the same mediocre at best QBs. Any other position where they don't perform they get replaced by a kid out of college, cut, and they're out of the league. But NFL teams will stick with a QB for years and years knowing they're mediocre at best. There are plenty of QB's to pick from in the NCAA each year, go out and get someone who can perform.
Case and point: Zach Wilson. Three years now, zero development, no signs of improvement.
Every NFL squad has incredible talent. Difference between winning and losing is razor thin. This is why i refuse to gamble on it.