Scotts John Deere 1642H Riding Mower Kevlar Transmission Belt Replacement
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Pulled the deck off to replace the belt and sharpen the blades so it was a good time to make a vid of the trans belt that had already been replaced last week with an OEM style Kevlar wrapped belt. The dog leash makes a great tension spring installation/removal tool. The fact that the mower is tipped back is for clear illustration purposes only. Please don't attempt it yourself, it's very heavy. Always make sure to have the wheels blocked, secure it to prevent it from moving forward, and wear eye protection. The trans belt was less than $18 on ebay. The deck belt was about $37. Check out my video on replacing the input shaft and drive pulley if yours needs more than just a belt replacement.
Great idea with the leash. I just finished installing the new belt. This video was the first one I seen and made the job easy! I seen other videos with people forcing the belt over or getting a pry driver and muscling the spring loose. By far the best and easiest method! Great job, thank you!
Ahh finally someone with the same setup. I couldn't find a video on how to do this till now! The dog leash idea is genius. Thank you!
that dog leash thing was freakin brilliant. that spring has got blood from me before, never again.
Seems like the trickiest part. My drive belt decided to go right after I got 1/3 of yard done. Glad it happened as I went up a incline instead of on the edge of the road. My street is usually high traffic. People speed (60+)& change lane all the time right where I live.
Yes as an alternative to a dog leash. The John Deere service manual recommends putting a nylon cord loop on the end of the spring and wrapping the other end on a small piece of wood to fashion a handle. I let the cord go over the engine shaft and slide so I could pull it just like the video. I was able to pull the front end of spring off its mount and release it slowly in a controlled manner. ***Use safety glasses!***
The dog leash trick saved my right hand from being dismembered any further once I saw this video. Many thanks, as the owners manual doesn't have instuctions to replace the drive belt. Your video on replacing the input shaft was very helpful as well. Now my tractor handles like new again. Thank you, thank you!
+Mike Crigger glad it helped fix your problems. When I changed my belt and input shaft I couldn't find any videos on the procedure, so I figured why not make one and maybe help people save time and a few bucks.
+scatpack68 Any way I cld get the replacement number to the belt you used?
Great trick - belt replaced and finally found a use for that Dog Leash I found by the road when cleaning up trash!
Thanks! Before I changed the belt on mine I couldn't find a specific video for the 1642's so I thought it would be a good opportunity to finally get a vid out there to hopefully help out.
Many thanks for showing this video. I could not remove the spring without the dog leash instructions. Saved me $300
Kaivan Foroughi glad it helped save you some money. thanks for the comment
I plan to replace the drive belt today, Its only 17 years old and cracked. Thanks for posting the video.
Your video saved me a 200. repair shop bill thank you thank you thank you
your comment is exactly why i thought it would be a good idea to make this vid. glad it helped, thanks
Wish I had a dog and a leash but worked up an alternative with 2 zip ties around the spring and a piece of rope with a knot in the end. Tighten the zip ties once the rope is threaded through and tug away. If you're doing this on your back and need more leverage, run the other end of the rope through the steering arm. Oh one other tip, keep an eye on the brake lever, it goes into the forward hole on the left side, doesn't quite work if you you use the rear hole. Thanks for the video though, big time saver!
g66 good tips, thanks for looking
I just spent several hours changing this belt for the first (and hopefully last) time and your video was very very helpful. Mower is like new now.
The dog leash trick saved my knuckles..... Thanks for Posting
I just replaced the traction drive belt on my Scott's John Deere S1642 with ease thanks to your very helpful video. My tractor is running great. I would like to note that the John Deere parts catalog shows the belt number as GX10851. I noticed a different belt number used in other comments. Don't know if these belts are the same, or if a S1642 is the same as a 1642H. My tractor sure looks exactly like yours. Just a heads up for anyone wanting to order the belt. Thanks for posting this video!
Want to say thanks again for a well done vid. It all seemed foreign until I propped my mower up like you did.
Then it all made sense. Spent $80 for both belts at John Deere. but hopefully those are the last belts I have to buy for it.That is one tough spring wow!!!
+John Doe Glad it helped, $80 is probably a lot cheaper than paying someone else to fix it for you.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but I changed out my drive belt (JD belt) 5 yrs ago using this video and it just broke on me the other day but I went back to this video and put on a new one today so hopefully I'm good for another 5 yrs.....
Well, the Scotts mower I inherited ( 50" Kohler 20Hp) runs like a champ but is now struggling up hill. I'm thinking the belt is stretched and I'm freaking out on how to change. This is a great video but no idea how to get the deck off and this all seems so overwhelming. I am pretty good at small engine repair but this is freaking me out. I hope to get this job started soon. I have the manual but nothing on how to service or replace this hydro drive belt. I cannot imagine the price I would pay to have a service place do this job.... Good Video in any case!
The deck removes with clips you pull out by hand. Put a couple of wood blocks on under deck and push down on deck height adjustment to take weight of deck off its hanging hardware. Note how the back wings fit into the slides at the back of machine so when you go back to put it on you know where it should go. There are 5 clips you need to pull off. One is on the lever that tensions the belt. As you pull all these clips off be sure to catch the washers so they can be reused. There are 4 pins that hold the deck remove those and the deck can be slide sideways under mower.🙂
thank you such a big help I put a new motor in my Scotts and did not know why there was still tension on the Belt when I put in clutch so now I know how to get the belt back on!!!!!
glad it helped
just scored one for 40m bucks. real nice shape. they thought the motor was toast. bar around front pulley was rubbing. fired up great. needs mower belt
Thank you for making this video it is an awesome job and very helpful. I have to replace my belt tomorrow when I get a replacement and this video makes it so much easier.
Bob A glad it helped you
Great video. The best tip was seeing your tractor propped up on the back wheels. I had started to change my belt by going underneath.
Didn't have a dog leash. Fashioned loops using the nylon twine you get from Home Depot. Worked well. Great idea on how to remove the spring.
Thank you for posting.
Glad it worked out for you. Sometimes being resourceful and using whatever you have can work just as well. Thanks for looking.
Great video and nice idea with the dog leash. I am getting a relatively new Scotts 17-42 for $200-it needs a starter and drive belt. Very helpful and thanks again.
Nice score on the mower. Check back when you get it going again. Thanks for looking!
I just use a big screw driver and pry the belt off the tension pulley. To re install I run the belt up to the engine drive pulley and with a screw driver I get the belt back onto that pulley. I don't mess with that spring at all.
I just replaced the traction drive belt on my Scott's John Deere S1642 with ease thanks to your tip about the dog leash awesome help. Great Video and a must for everyone who is going to tackle the project. Wildy2U
Great video. Decided to change this belt at the same as the deck thanks to your video.
the doggie strap is absolutely brilliant. thanks!
Ken Alden thanks, glad it helped!
Excellent instructional video! Just completed the exact project.
This is a great to the point video! Really helpful!!
excellant tip with the dog leash !
Glad to be able to help out with your maintenance. The only thing that's in the service manual that I found was how to R&R the deck and belt, not the trans drive belt. I guess they want you to take it to a dealer for that. I prefer to use the shorter leash for easy storage in the toolbox, but a regular length leash would work well also, just depends which one works best for you. Thanks for looking.
Not so, its shown on page 6-26 of the John Deere Sabre Technical Manual
@@mrjunkp7090 on youtube you actually see it being done, and no need to order and wait for a manual.
Great video! Thanks so much. Saved me so much time. Only issue I had was trying to change the cooling fan while I had it apart. I found it couldn’t be done, even after removing the plate under the rear battery compartment. Wasn’t enough room between the rear fan pulley and the body. I guess I have to completely remove the transaxle to get to the fan ? Kind of a bad design for such a wearable part. Thanks again for a great video !
Yes i had to remove the transaxle in order to have full access to replacing the fan. I guess they figured it would be a long time before that would need replacing.
Thank you so much for posting this video. This made it so easy for me to change my belt.
Great video. I didn't take off the guard. Drain the oil and gas, tip over on right side, use a small dog leash hasp and in 30 seconds your good to go!
How do you check change or add fluid to the hydrostatic transmission.
I have to replace hydrostatic fan on my Scotts 1642 tractor. Any idea how to get access to it?
Just a suggestion.....when replacing the belt, or for any reason you may have to remove the deck, check the 4 bolts that secure the engine to the underside of the body. I recently made an adjustment to the deck pulleys and noticed that one was missing and the other 3 were loose.
After I changed my belt, how do I reinstall my lockout?
the opposite of disassembly. insert it from the bottom then install the nut.
My belt broke on my Scotts mower,I wasted a couple hrs trying to figure out out to put on the new one,finally gave up and went to youtube and found your video.Many thanks for posting this,it really helped help point me in the right direction and get the new belt on.I lost a cotter key that held the steering rod on so I left it upright overnight till I got to the store,how long do you reckon it takes for all the oil to run back down in the motor & transmission?
+Tony Jordan glad to hear you were able to fix your mower. It shouldn't take long at all for oil to drain back down since it's not that thick.
Your video helped soo much..I just installed the drive belt yesterday and that dog leash trick was perfect..Without that there is no doubt I would have gotten hurt (spring is under a lot of tension) . I also noticed that the Fan pulley was wobbling which may be why the belt got chewed up.
How hard is it to remove the fan pulley?
Thanks for the help
Tommy glad it worked out ok for you
Once you get the transmission out of machine the pulley comes off with a snap ring. So you need a set of snap ring pliers.
Hi scatpack68, when you removed your transaxle to replace the input shaft, did you take off the wheels first before unbolting the transaxle from the mower, or did you leave the wheels on and remove them after getting it out from under the mower? I have to do this shaft replacement too I believe, having same symptoms as you describe in your shaft replacement video. Thanks for your reply.
Yes i used a small floor jack to raise the rear near the hitch mount to be able to first remove the tires then the gearbox
Good Job on the Video, how do you like that John Deere, I just picked mine yesterday. My pulley and shaft splines were stripped, watch your Video. the bearing and seal was tight, so I put the pulley on my drill press and tapered the hole, I then took a wet rag and wrapped around the lower shaft and seal, and Tig welded the pulley in Place, working perfect !! Love your video's.
Thanks, John
John Lake same just happened to mine. Replaced pulley for $24
John Lake shaft and seal were fine though.
Thanks! Glad it worked out for you.
Nice trick! I WILL be using THAT one.
Thanks, glad it was an easy fix for you.
Great video man. Cleared some things up for me and added a new tool to my repertoire!
Hey a 4' small dog leash with your foot in the handle from the left side of the mower laying on your back and you can get it done. as the OP said does work.
Wish I would have seen this before I did mine.
Mine was just the opposite. It was slipping a lot due to a shiny, dry rotted belt. Worked like new after belt replacement. Did you use an OEM Kevlar type belt? Is it the correct length? Is the button in the back fully pushed in to engage the trans? Does the belt have no slack whatsoever? Was the brake lock lever reinstalled? Just a few thoughts...
Question, I changed the belt this morning. Double checked everything and the transmission seems like it is slipping. It will not go more than 10 ft at normal speed at a time. It worked perfect before the belt change. I have the deck off again, trying to figure it out. NO leaks, did you have to break your belt in at all?
Very nice. Thanks
Thanks for the help!
+tempusfugit13579 anytime!
Dog leash puts you into the same class as Tesla. Unfortunately it appears I have a problem with the pulley splines.
Good video, My blade engagement lever won't stay engaged or it won't go all the way down in the nutral position, it stays in the middle and I have to put a bungie strap on it when I'm cutting the Grass ?? any suggestions, I took off the deck cleaned and lubed everything. Some thing must be missing ! Thanks for the Video !!
Check the lever adjustment just above the deck with the long spring. With the lever engaged there should be about 1" forward travel of the bracket. It may be way out of adjustment or parts missing.
I'm about to change mine again. Do I need to drain the oil before standing it up like that. Great idea. Thanks for sharing.
John Bara it probably would be a good idea to drain it first, especially if it's scheduled to be changed anyway.
scatpack68 thanks for the quick reply. yeah I may as well get some oil and filter at the same time.
What is torque setting used to re-tighten the pulley nut? Or, is the tightness critical on that pulley? Thanks much for the video.
There's no specific torque specs given in the service manual since it doesn't illustrate the replacement of the belt, but I would suggest approximately +/- 20 ft. lb. You may also use your best judgement when it comes to being "securely" tightened. Thanks.
Thanks for posting
I have the 2048 versions, very similar. How do you get the belt around the fan pulley? Does the crank case drop away if you release the two springs on each side?
I found the answer! There is a plate with 2 bolts behind the top pulley.
I cannot find the correct type of drive belt, I've tried two different sizes. Anyone know the part number?
Part numbers are on John Deere website
I've had a hard time finding the right belt. The manual says Ground drive belt GX10065. Google searched and couldn't find one. I found one that Says it will work. It is 1/2 inch by 96 inch long. Is this the right length?
Dan Hall there's a few on ebay that are the OEM Kevlar type. The 1/2x96 should be correct. Use "GX10065 belt" as the search words.
Why arent people going the the Deere website for part numbers????
I've noticed that the the mower is not staying in gear and having issues with going up hill now that I've replaced the belt and idler(the one just to the left of the spring). Can the idler be adjusted to tighten the belt?
No, the amount of spring tension is pre-determined and can't be adjusted. It automatically adjusts for belt wear/stretch. If it makes noise during forward engagement, it may need a new shaft/pulley assembly. I also have a video about replacing those parts.
@@scatpack68 Thats incorrect. The tension can be adjusted on page 6-22 of the technical manual it states the tension spring is to be removed and the idler pulley that is mounted on slots is moved. The manual states that tension is checked by measuring the tension spring (not including hooks)= 12.25in +-.25in
@@mrjunkp7090 i was referring to the idler pulley connected to the spring.
my husband bought a 1642 scotts cheap changed belt,battery but now it wont pull it will engage but it jerks. can you help
does it make any noise when the trans is engaged? If so check my other video about changing the shaft/pulley assembly. Other than that, check the level of oil in the trans case.
+scatpack68 This is the second time this issue comes up -- instead of just saying "check my other video" why don't you actually give the CZcams link dead or live so folks can get there without having to hunt for it forever.
the video can be found simply and quickly by clicking on my user name and finding that there is only one other video pertaining to a Scotts/Deere product. The transmission video. Keep in mind I'm not getting a dime for making the videos, just trying to help out.
I'm a bit late but my belt just shit the bed (got 22 years out of it). What is the part # or link for correct belt, anyone know? Thanks!
To answer my own question, my tractor is actually a 2001 (date of manufacture anyway) Scotts by John Deere 1642h model. I found a Kevlar V-drive belt that was 96 inches long & 1/2 inch wide at a local tractor supply store. The original belt specs are 95.8 inches X 1/2 inch, so I used it. Worked perfect! The dog leash worked like a charm also. Thanks for posting this video like 9 years ago - it's STILL very helpful!
Why arent people going the the Deere website for part numbers????
How did you get it around the pully at the bottom over the white fan blade?
The black pulley closest to the fan will need to be removed in order for the belt to clear the frame rail. Once that's back in the belt can be routed around the pulley above the fan.
@@scatpack68 Thank you for the fast response. I tried lifting the mower up and boy is that thing heavy. I guess it's time to jack it up some to get under it.
How do you remove the steering arm? What wrench or tool is needed?
Mine was connected to the steering rack with a cotter pin. A pair of needle nosed pliers should be all you need to remove it. After that it just turns in a keyway slot to remove it from the arm near the tension spring.
Ok I dont remember seeing one but I will double check
Anyone know what the part numbers are the the belts ?
Why arent people going the the Deere website for part numbers????
thanks!
what is the belt size for the deck belt?
the deck belt is 1/2" X 115 3/4" and the factory part number is M124895
Why arent people going the the Deere website for part numbers????
Anyone know the drive belt size or number?
JD # is GX10851 if you still need it???
Why arent people going the the Deere website for part numbers????
lot easyer to just push in on the clutch then put your belt on
This is Hydrostatic not Gear shift...