This is my neighbor and good friend Eric. He is a very talented and hard working guy, and he is the best neighbor we have ever had. That's saying a lot, as we have had some good neighbors. He comes up with a lot of solutions for challenging issues concerning how to do more with less. I congratulate him on finally making his CZcams debut. Looking forward to many more informative videos, as I feel certain he has much more to share. Franklin
Thanks for posting this. Answered a couple of my questions that were rolling around in my mind when I was trying to design a foot valve/pump for homemade windmill setup. 200 ft. well I'm gonna be putting it in, no idea yet what the static water level is or the drawdown level, which with a slow pumper is probably going to be really close to the static level. (It's got a 1hp electric in it now and according to the guy we bought the place from, it's never sucked air.) My question is, taking all the friction of the seals and the column of water, what kind of force are you finding you need to get that water up 185 ft? Rather design for that and be pleasantly surprised than design for less and have to start over.
Hey Bill sounds like a interesting project don't know the friction of the seals it would be easy to fill a foot of 1" pipe and then measure it 8 lb to the gallon then the weight of the rods. If I get a chance to go where the 185' well is I will remove the handle and use a pull scale and let you know what the wieght is. Keep me posted with your project if you need any sources for parts let me know...Eric
There are 231 cubic inches in one gallon and 9.42 cubic inches in 1 foot of 1 inch pipe. So, 231/9.42=24.52 feet of pipe equals one gallon. 1 gallon of fresh water weighs 8.34 pounds. I would use a round the number to 8.34 pounds for every ~25 feet you are lifting the water. Your 185' example would be ~62 pounds (btw, the same weight as one cubic foot of water).
Were you ever able to find cheaper "U" bands or O ring type thing for the pump? You mentioned in the end of your video that it was $20.00 for shipping and that was kind of high considering the costs of the parts. Thanks for your quick response to my previous question.
Kevin Bigelow No Kevin I either find them cheap and high shipping or high price and low shipping They are used in hydraulic cylinders If you have a place that can rebuild hydraulic cylinders they can supply you That number tells the rod and bore size to them
Johnny The deepest we have gone to date is 185’. You need to find the static water level out. Measure with a string or drop a rock down the well. The rock will fall 20 feet per second just time the fall. Let me know Thank you for your interest Eric
The well seal as it is called It is two plates of steel or plastic with a 3/4” rubber piece in between The four bolts are tighten and this seals the well and holds the well pump and your hand pump You can buy them at hardware store some big box store They have two holes in them one is 1” and the other is 1-1/4” I buy them on EBAY or amazon
Did you ever do a build list for this? This is my next project after I check my well depth....it might be too deep as my neighbor across the street is at 450.
A hand pump is a option It is probably the least expensive Or you can add a solar powered inverter that will run your grid powered well pump Look at some of my videos on taking your grid powered well pump off grid And as always subscribe like and share Thanks Eric
Hi Eric Thanks for very good informative video Eric can you provide me some more details about material list and what will be approx price for the list material. I have bore well 200 feet dept. Thanks
There are 5 videos on the build of the pump Cost to build the pump is $200.00 that covers the top of the pump and the bottom and then it will cost about $1.00 per foot going down the well To date the deepest pump I have installed is 185’ about 170’ to the top of the water If you have any more questions please don’t hesitate to ask Look at my home page and look at all videos Starting on my channel now I am doing a series of homesteading and prepping for the other 99% Like and subscribe Thank you Eric
Base Camp WNC, I’d be interested in buying from you instead- is it a possibility? Will it work for a deep well (~330’ static)? If not, what do you suggest? Looking at complete black out- scenarios. Thanks.
At 330’ my pump will not work and there is no other that will work Probably best to take your deep well pump and be able to supply it with off grid solar power I have videos showing this If you are interested please contact me at my email address Carolinahomesteadplanner@gmail.com And as always subscribe like and share Thanks ERIC
Is there a list on your website (www.carolinahomesteadplanner.com : I think) of all these parts for making the well pump? I couldn't navigate on website and find it for some reason.
Horta Chan Sorry it has taken this long to get back to you have been working on a off grid site with no cell or Web. As of this date the deepest we have done is 185 feet to the static water level. The limitations are being able to lift the water if this helps let me know you can also contact me at Carolinahomesteadplanner @gmail If you want to discuss your personal need and your site Eric
There is never a easy answer What is the recharge rate of your well As long as you are getting 2-3 gallons per minute that’s fine Pumping 2-3 gallons per minute
Nelson. Your answer is yes. We have one that the water level in the well is 225’ deep that’s about 73 meters and works fine. Any questions or help finding material sent me comment thanks Eric
Hi Nelson As of this date we are pumping water from 225' about 75 meters. The 225' is the static water level, this is the depth from the top of the well to the water level. If you need more information or help with materials do not hesitate to contact me. Eric
When I did that video it was $150.00 to build the top part with the handle and the bottom part with the pump and valve and then 1.50 per foot for the drop pipe and sucker rod So if you build the pump and went down 100’ it would be $300.00 Hope this answers your questions As always subscribe like and share ERIC
On part one at time 9:08 the video shows the U- cup seal info urethane u-cup seal #12501125-187 Allegheny York Co. 3995 N. George St. Extended Manchester Pa. 17345 P 717-266-6617
Yes I have they will work but for only shallow water You will get better seal with the u cup seal. And that will give you more water lift I know that buying them is a pain but that is what works I have found that most hydraulic cylinder rebuilding shops will carry them Thank you for your comments
@@basecampwnc1745 I live in Ohio, we have a very high water table. Most wells are only 75 feet total and from casing to where water starts is only 25 feet. I'm going to try both. But on the one with o rings do 4 of them. O rings are just readily available more than u cup seals. I really appreciate the response and video.
www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=371_172_347_641&products_id=11352 link to the seals 5.23 each w/ 7.99 shipping hope this helps and thanks for the video
This is my neighbor and good friend Eric. He is a very talented and hard working guy, and he is the best neighbor we have ever had. That's saying a lot, as we have had some good neighbors. He comes up with a lot of solutions for challenging issues concerning how to do more with less. I congratulate him on finally making his CZcams debut. Looking forward to many more informative videos, as I feel certain he has much more to share. Franklin
Man this channel is AMAZING!!! So much valuable information!
Awesome. Appreciate the video, these places selling the kits are trying to buy yachts or something.
Thanks for posting this. Answered a couple of my questions that were rolling around in my mind when I was trying to design a foot valve/pump for homemade windmill setup. 200 ft. well I'm gonna be putting it in, no idea yet what the static water level is or the drawdown level, which with a slow pumper is probably going to be really close to the static level. (It's got a 1hp electric in it now and according to the guy we bought the place from, it's never sucked air.)
My question is, taking all the friction of the seals and the column of water, what kind of force are you finding you need to get that water up 185 ft? Rather design for that and be pleasantly surprised than design for less and have to start over.
Hey Bill sounds like a interesting project don't know the friction of the seals it would be easy to fill a foot of 1" pipe and then measure it 8 lb to the gallon then the weight of the rods. If I get a chance to go where the 185' well is I will remove the handle and use a pull scale and let you know what the wieght is. Keep me posted with your project if you need any sources for parts let me know...Eric
There are 231 cubic inches in one gallon and 9.42 cubic inches in 1 foot of 1 inch pipe. So, 231/9.42=24.52 feet of pipe equals one gallon. 1 gallon of fresh water weighs 8.34 pounds. I would use a round the number to 8.34 pounds for every ~25 feet you are lifting the water. Your 185' example would be ~62 pounds (btw, the same weight as one cubic foot of water).
Will this pump work on a six inch bored well with a electric pump already in there. I would like both.
Yes it will in the video I have a 4” well with a electric pump and the hand pump also
Thank you for your comment please like and subscribe
Were you ever able to find cheaper "U" bands or O ring type thing for the pump? You mentioned in the end of your video that it was $20.00 for shipping and that was kind of high considering the costs of the parts.
Thanks for your quick response to my previous question.
Kevin Bigelow
No Kevin I either find them cheap and high shipping or high price and low shipping
They are used in hydraulic cylinders
If you have a place that can rebuild hydraulic cylinders they can supply you
That number tells the rod and bore size to them
Can this setup work with a well 480' deep? Haven't had a chance to see how far down the water is yet.
Johnny
The deepest we have gone to date is 185’. You need to find the static water level out. Measure with a string or drop a rock down the well. The rock will fall 20 feet per second just time the fall.
Let me know
Thank you for your interest
Eric
Is a place to get parts number certain parts from? the check valve and gasket
If you watch part one of the pump build there is the part #’s and the name and address of there to buy the u cup seals
Where did you buy the well cap or did you use the existing one and drill a hole in it? Did it have a rubber gasket on it too?
The well seal as it is called
It is two plates of steel or plastic with a 3/4” rubber piece in between
The four bolts are tighten and this seals the well and holds the well pump and your hand pump
You can buy them at hardware store some big box store
They have two holes in them one is 1” and the other is 1-1/4”
I buy them on EBAY or amazon
Did you ever do a build list for this? This is my next project after I check my well depth....it might be too deep as my neighbor across the street is at 450.
See my previous comment above. The water alone of your 450' using 1" would yield ~150 pounds.
I have another question how many litter per minutes this water pump can suck ? Thanks in advance
With the hand pump its about a 1- 1/2 cup per stroke then its comes down to the lift of the water and how long you can pump
Would this be what I would need to add to my well to be able to have water, if we loose electricity?
A hand pump is a option
It is probably the least expensive
Or you can add a solar powered inverter that will run your grid powered well pump
Look at some of my videos on taking your grid powered well pump off grid
And as always subscribe like and share
Thanks
Eric
What is the website for the plans please
Hi Eric Thanks for very good informative video Eric can you provide me some more details about material list and what will be approx price for the list material. I have bore well 200 feet dept. Thanks
There are 5 videos on the build of the pump
Cost to build the pump is $200.00 that covers the top of the pump and the bottom and then it will cost about $1.00 per foot going down the well
To date the deepest pump I have installed is 185’ about 170’ to the top of the water
If you have any more questions please don’t hesitate to ask
Look at my home page and look at all videos
Starting on my channel now I am doing a series of homesteading and prepping for the other 99%
Like and subscribe
Thank you Eric
BASE CAMP WNC I don’t see the parts list anywhere on the website or your videos. Where can it be found?
Base Camp WNC, I’d be interested in buying from you instead- is it a possibility? Will it work for a deep well (~330’ static)? If not, what do you suggest? Looking at complete black out- scenarios. Thanks.
At 330’ my pump will not work and there is no other that will work
Probably best to take your deep well pump and be able to supply it with off grid solar power
I have videos showing this
If you are interested please contact me at my email address
Carolinahomesteadplanner@gmail.com
And as always subscribe like and share
Thanks
ERIC
@@basecampwnc1745, I sent you a pm regarding the subject, pls check inbox. Thank you.
Any help would be greatly appreciated I've got a 707 ft well the pump is bad I want to if a hand pump can take its place
Sorry not at that depth
Is there a list on your website (www.carolinahomesteadplanner.com : I think) of all these parts for making the well pump? I couldn't navigate on website and find it for some reason.
Kevin Bigelow
It never made it to the website
You need to pause the video and write them down
how deep can u go with this ? good video
Horta Chan
Sorry it has taken this long to get back to you have been working on a off grid site with no cell or Web. As of this date the deepest we have done is 185 feet to the static water level. The limitations are being able to lift the water if this helps let me know you can also contact me at
Carolinahomesteadplanner @gmail
If you want to discuss your personal need and your site
Eric
My static water level is 45 feet, so how deep do I need to go with the pump?
There is never a easy answer
What is the recharge rate of your well
As long as you are getting 2-3 gallons per minute that’s fine
Pumping 2-3 gallons per minute
I would go 65-70 deep
This will give you some room with the summer water drop
You are still lifting the water from 45’ to the top
I’m in HAYESVILLE, NC. I really enjoy your instructional videos! Where are you located in Western NC?
Up the mountain from Bevard
Looking for part list
What is your website. I don’t see it listed.
It’s
Carolinahomesteadplanner@gmail.com
It’s on the bottom at the start and finish of all my videos
And as always subscribe like and share
Eric
will it fit right by the electric pump
Yes
Hi I have deep well 45 meters can I use?
Nelson. Your answer is yes. We have one that the water level in the well is 225’ deep that’s about 73 meters and works fine. Any questions or help finding material sent me comment thanks Eric
Hi Nelson
As of this date we are pumping water from 225' about 75 meters. The 225' is the static water level, this is the depth from the top of the well to the water level. If you need more information or help with materials do not hesitate to contact me. Eric
do you sell the pump put together
No
What is the total price of all the parts ?
I'm hopeful to build one soon
When I did that video it was $150.00 to build the top part with the handle and the bottom part with the pump and valve and then 1.50 per foot for the drop pipe and sucker rod
So if you build the pump and went down 100’ it would be $300.00
Hope this answers your questions
As always subscribe like and share
ERIC
On part one at time 9:08 the video shows the U- cup seal info
urethane u-cup seal
#12501125-187
Allegheny York Co.
3995 N. George St. Extended
Manchester Pa. 17345
P 717-266-6617
Have you tried o rings vs u cups?
Yes I have they will work but for only shallow water
You will get better seal with the u cup seal. And that will give you more water lift
I know that buying them is a pain but that is what works
I have found that most hydraulic cylinder rebuilding shops will carry them
Thank you for your comments
@@basecampwnc1745 I live in Ohio, we have a very high water table. Most wells are only 75 feet total and from casing to where water starts is only 25 feet. I'm going to try both. But on the one with o rings do 4 of them. O rings are just readily available more than u cup seals. I really appreciate the response and video.
can u build me one
www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=371_172_347_641&products_id=11352
link to the seals 5.23 each w/ 7.99 shipping
hope this helps and thanks for the video