Microsoft: Removes modding viability. Minecraft players: Only play on the version that this update didn't apply to and mod every new update into that older version themselves so they never have to officially pay for mods.
Mojang: stop making free content in our game! Modders: no! "Adds a dragon" Mojang: if you wanna make mods you gotta pay us! Modders: no! "Adds another Dragon and doesn't update Minecraft" Mojang: but... Modders: ...."adds another another Dragon"
@@worldspam5682I wouldn’t call it “C++ remake”. There were always many differences. If you don’t call it Bedrock then Pocket Edition is the best name since it was designed for phones
@worldspam5682 so it carried the entire game. Without mods on Java and the continued popularity of the original version, all other versions would never have been made. Minecraft without mods being an option just isn't minecraft anymore.
"It's for security reasons" has clearly become Mojang/Microshaft's go to excuse for implementing features intended to take more and more control over how people play the game and what they're allowed to say and do. It's positively Orwellian and I assure you with almost 90% certainty it has nothing to do with "security". The entire reason Minecraft became so beloved in the first place was due to the creative freedom to play how you want and do what you want, when you wanted to, with little to no restrictions beyond your own in-game progression and acquired resources. Mojang/Microshaft are now stifling that freedom, and lying to our faces about their reasons.
@@timothyvanhoeck233 bro I know, I agree this mid stuff is dumb... But I literally died IRL when I read "Orwellian". Lil bro, don't you think you're over exaggerating a little?
@@unbearablysmug2437 No, I'm not. When certain words are banned or censored because, though they aren't offensive themselves, they contain all or part of a derogatory word within them (i.e. the names certain countries, like Japan or Nigeria are censored), or are allowed to censor normal speech because some thin-skinned moron may be offended by it, especially when you basically encourage ratting out your neighbor/fellow player for wrongthink, there is no other word to describe that other than orwellian. I oppose all forms of censorship. Censorship is the tool of tyrants and cowards. When you cut out a man's tongue, you aren't proving them wrong; you're proving that you fear that which they have to say. At the end of the day, nothing good can ever come from censorship and speech suppression. Even if done with good intentions, need I remind people that some of the worst things imaginable have been done with "good intentions"
@@unbearablysmug2437 He's actually right for using the term since George Orwell coined that term to show that tyranny doesn't always need to with violence, the most effective lot of the time is through the changing or banning of words and their meanings.
and they also support mods in minecraft? bruh thats what happens when you dont do enough research, mods still work perfectly, it affected only bedrock, and who cares about the lesser minecraft edition, java is meant for mods, bedrock isnt.
NO, i'm a mod dev,but not really mod,"ADDONS" (The content in the marketplace),and no the content in the mp is not mods,mods is stuff like server plugins or things more complex that actually modify the game,addons are just stuff added
@@lordraiyon3589 TOmato, TAmato. Mods and addons both add stuff to the game. Plug-ins are exactly what they say on the tin, you can't change my mind about it.
The moment they realized console players would pay tens of dollars for a single mod, it was so over Im grateful for what we've got but there's a lot to hate in this timeline
A control inspired move. Having a thriving modding and social community for a game means that the game gets a lot of attention and thus a lot of customers. It also means that they have less control over the things they do, & words people speak on it. The marketplace is just an added benefit, but with it, the reality of making real java-quality mods is impossible
if mods really go away, especially world edit, then im genuinely never playing minecraft again. theres no way i can continue to build the massive things i make without tools like that.
play old versions. idk if that makes me the linux user of minecraft to tell other people to do this, it has been completely worth it for me. you can make choices. mutlimc or betacraft, mods, old versions, resource packs, it's worth it.
@@maxthibodeau3627 not a viable option on consoles. Also this only affects a few niche details like client-modifications and a few specific BDS (bedrock dedicated server) modifications. In other words, this isnt a "dunk on bedrock players for not playing java" moment.
mojang has always been a bit shit honestly, they promised modding api YEARS ago and never properly delivered. even when it was just notch he'd add dumb shit and ignore bugs that modders fixed easily and quickly. modders have always, ALWAYS been the reason minecraft is popular.
@@CaedesGladio nah you're misremembering bud. he's awesome for making minecraft in the first place but 90% of the content in the game is post 1.0, which is when he left the team. it was the little details he didnt fix that made things kinda suck, not the broad strokes.
Mojang doesn't understand that modding is literally Minecraft's life support. Take that away and the game will plummet; in fact, mods are one of the main reasons the game got so famous.
Lithium, sodium, distant horizons Performance mods literally make the game playable😂 Without it it's such an expensive game to run, if they disable mods, holyshit Minecraft is fucked
... The fact that Microsoft and Mojang need to have it explained to them as to why this move was a HORRENDOUS idea is just sad. There's shooting your product in the foot - and then there's blowing its effing legs off.
I wouldn't say that killing mod support is blowing Minecraft's legs off.... It's head. It's like blowing the HEAD of the game with a shotgun. Majority of people can keep playing the game thanks to mods, because vanilla Minecraft is a one trick horse that gets old fast and stays old for long. Without mods, no one even will just *be able* to play Minecraft more than like a week per year. Open it up for nostalgia's sake, play a bit, get bored, and leave for another year... That's the optimistic outlook even, because most people probably won't even return for that little
It’s profit, Get rid of the ability to mod Couple months later claim Java is actually performance inept and security compared to bedrock. Then we’re all stuck with Microsoft bedrock. As mojang Minecraft will die
Lets just acknowledge the elephant in the room mojang removed modding to everywhere except the marketplace to force players to buy things they are greedy
@@Felipe-rn1gf well there is a flie inside of bedrock that can be changed to where this will be affected . can download it , ok . but using will not load into the world
If they added this crap to Java, Java players would tear Microsoft to shreds Edit: Thanks for 280 likes! This is the most popular comment I have ever made!
@@kuniokun9117 Maybe so, but we are talking about Microsoft here and if they are actually going through with this. That is bad news for Java, because if they find they can’t protect their code from being modded, that probably means the end of Java as we know it. Of course this is just speculation of what could come. It is however entirely possible.
Don't worry, the way Java works makes it literally impossible to prevent modding on Java Edition. Microsoft may be able to slow down Java modding, but they can never truly take it away from us.
Well depending on how deeply the recognition runs that the game runs mods it might be possible to make it impossible to play the game through it. Obviously players will find a way to fix it themselves. As you said, it's java, so literally an open book. But there are ways I can think of how I woukd make the game unplayable with 'mods from unofficial websites'
@@nobodyuwu3970 literally impossible. Custom launchers would quickly patch that out. FTB, Technic, etc would all patch that out in their launchers or just never use new versions(also a perfectly find choice since new updates are shit compared to mods)
@@CommanderRedEXE As said, Java is literally an open book, but there are way to make to make tge game unplayable without possibly extensive work, kike putting flags in checking the modfiles, if they are connected to their store, otherwise putting flags rabdinly into the code to make first close itself, if they found not officially supported mod and some other bits of code to make it crash if the first thing was circumvented. Also if they truly decided to be malicous snd greedy enough they could still go the legal way with the laucher developers. If they do tgat minecraft obviously would die, plus pote tial megal ramifications... but it us Microsoft were talking about.
Well. Minecraft source code is pulled from an "open" repository, including older versions. You need this source code to make mods and play older versions of the game. This can be shut down anytime mojang wants. You'd better keep those old copies pirated or not
Cuz stakeholders and investors are not recovering enough from the cashcow they invested in. And they are now asking questions. No 1 rich bothers what happens at the bottom.
This is the exact opposite direction Mojang and Microwank need to go in if they want Minecraft to thrive... When Hytale comes out there is a huge community of people who will be leaving Minecraft for good because they'll be able to go to Hytale and go recreate any version of Minecraft in Hytale, make any changes they want to those worlds and every player can then play those worlds and make any changes they want. Mojang and Microwank should be allowing people the freedom to do the exact same thing in Minecraft if they want to compete with Hytale when it comes out.
About hytale I’m honestly unsure if it will do well (Seriously it’s been years since the first trailer and most people probably don’t even remember it. I’m really excited for it I’m just concerned there won’t be support to keep it going ya know?
@@scarecrow9501 I believe when it gets closer to launch you'll see it explode in popularity again. When people realize the things they'll be able to do in game creating anything they want within the game using the same tools that were used to make Hytale it'll blow up. I suspect you'll see people who are into souls like games come over to create their own souls like games, people who were creating mod for Minecraft will move to Hytale, many CZcamsrs who mostly cover Minecraft will begin the shift to being Hytale CZcamsrs. It'll blow up in popularity mark my words. Personally I and a few of my friends are all planning to create a game that is similar to Remnant From the Ashes and Remnant 2 but inside Hytale.
@@scarecrow9501 Once hytale starts actually releasing stuff (like a beta), people will start getting hyped again. Issue rn though is that it took so long minecraft java is now capable of a lot of things hytale promised it could do, so it has a bunch less stuff going for it. Hopefully the extra wait for the new engine will be worth it.
Minecraft boycot. I'll still play Minecraft, but I'll no longer be participating in anything they'll do. I'm a bedrock player who wants to play with mods. I want to play with a natural disaster or weather mod. I've been trying to get good ones but I can't find them or it doesn't work. My main concern is mod CZcamsrs like Doni Bobes and Fundy for example.
I don't play Bedrock, but I've voted, hopefully to make a difference. Luckily on Java we can stay on old versions, and mod those. I'm currently running 1.19.2 as a good number of mods I like haven't updated yet.
Only issue with that is unless there's a way to fully seperate the java version from the launcher itself, all Microsoft has to do is just remove any ability to access the older versions of the game. And sadly, that is what they're leading up to. It's the slow-boil approach.
@@HappyHarbl I don't use the official launcher, but Prism Launcher. You can grab the jar file directly too if I remember correctly. Again not done that in a while, except when building a server.
im genuinely sick of this, as a person who has been playing minecraft bedrock for 4 and a half years, this is infuriating. these new changes are the exact reason why im saving up for a new laptop that can run java well so i can switch over to it.
Dont know whare you are. But you can get good used pcs for 150-300 usd that can run Large mod packs with maxed shaders . Anything close or better then a gtx 1070 and your good for a long time.( only if you know whats good. Dont rush buying a used Pc , ask friends or family that know about Computers )
@@EXERGAMERZ no i use SCP add-ons which aren't in the marketplace ( I think they're talking about the type of add-on I use) Edit: the SCP add-ons adds new monsters and guns and stuff btw
@@EXERGAMERZ I know. I'm an addon developer. I was pointing out the type of mod that the original commenter was probably referring to wont be affected by this change.
As a Bedrock Developer, there is technically a major difference between mods and addons. People can still make free addons and provide them over sites like modbay, mcpedl, and planetminecraft. The PDB files let players make modified bedrock minecraft server softwear, as well as the closest thing to legitimate clients for bedrock.
The moment I booted up that Minecraft Bedrock update for the first time and saw that it had a login screen and a built-in store with emotes and all that crap, I knew that we were doomed. If they ever decide to force that into java, Minecraft as a whole dies.
I really hate it when people attribute these things primarily to Mojang, and slightly to Microsoft. It's the other way around where most of the controversial stuff are from Microsoft more than they are from Mojang. I'm not saying Mojang is perfect, not by far (their dumb views on vertical slabs is a huge example among many). But think about it. Minecraft, a game made off the premise of being able to do whatever you wanted, mod in whatever you wanted, made by a studio who for the most part does right by their community, starts making anti-consumer/player changes after being bought by a company known for doing anti-consumer things? The push for parity? Microsoft. The push for Bedrock over Java? Microsoft as Bedrock fully came to be after their acquisition of Mojang. The whole thing with chat reporting and crack down on "mods that hurts the brand image"? Microsoft. Mojang had no issues with mods that adds gun imagery as far as I could tell, until one day it suddenly an issue. This push to remove community made mods to be replaced by the marketplace that Microsoft can more directly benefit from is 1000%, without a doubt, a Microsoft move. Mojang wouldn't benefit from this anywhere near where Microsoft would. Hell, Java doesn't suffer from this because there isn't an official monetized storefront like Bedrock. So no, this isn't people getting mad at Mojang with Microsoft catching strays, this is people getting made at Microsoft's insatiable greed with Mojang being the fall guy.
How the hell is microsoft catching strays when i can't even properly contain 1 without suffering from 3000 arrows to the face and 30 agonising seconds of slowness???? (All jokes aside tho, this is a serious issue as bedrock modding is going to heavily suffer, if not straight up die because of the lack of pdb files)
@@lazarpetrovic1671 Modding Minecraft is beyond me, let alone modding Bedrock lmso. I knew it was possible, but it wasn't until I watched TheMisterEpic's video last week that I started to understand how it was done. As an avid plsyer of both versions, this honestly pisses me off, even more so as an aspiring game dev and coder. This play is a real bad one and will bite Microsoft and Minecraft as a whole in the ass hard.
@EmperorPenguin1217 1: Yes Mojang have their issues, plenty in fact. 2: Microsoft has everything to do with development as they, the higher-ups, calls the shots and tell the developers what to do. 3: Most of Mojang developers works on Java, not Bedrock which is primarily Microsoft developers as it's the Microsoft owned and ran version. 4: How the hell would it make sense to blame Mojang for Microsoft making a change that would directly benefit Microsoft?
@@river559 No they don’t. They have absolutely nothing to do with developing the game and there’s no evidence otherwise. Both former and current devs have said that Micro doesn’t do anything. Even with things like chat reporting Mojang themselves approved on it. The team is evenly split, and they’ve worked on Bedrock for years prior to it being named that. Because Microsoft doesn’t make the changes to begin with. Minecraft’s mere existence benefits Microsoft, regardless of what they do.
What baffles me is the fact that this choice is basically giving an upper hand to their competition. Hypixel Studios is still working on Hytale, and they announced early in the project that they will PROVIDE modders with tools. It's as if Mojang was preparing for a competitor WHO'S NOT OUT YET to crush them into oblivion
To give up freedom for security leads to lack of either, this is a very corporate greed driven strategy that will destroy the largest gaming community in history.
Account migration is stupid, like bro they should extend it to like 5 years since really, what if I was in a coma for 6 years and couldn't play minecraft at all.
I mean,... if the worst case happens, old version modding is going to take over. Period. It will outright replace newer minecraft versions if push comes to shove.
This is the point of no return. If the ability to mod Minecraft goes, then a LOT of players will jump ship. It’s that simple. If you really think Microsoft is gonna listen, then think again.
This is why I'm never moving to bedrock. I enjoy how java is a game you buy for 30 dollars (Already cheap), and you can mod it and shape it into anything you want. Edit: It's cheap for a game. Alot of popular games cost around 65 dollars. NOT TO MENTION, with java you aren't just spending $30 on the game, but also you unlock a world of THOUSANDS of mods that let you make the game.
$30 is cheap? I wouldn't call that cheap. Here in Czechia, most people can't really afford it (which is why so many people play pirated version frankly - and this is also a sole reason why there are so many cracked servers in Czechia - they wouldn't have players otherwise), and just to show you what I mean, $30 (which is about €30 as well) is about 700 CZK. That's a fairly expensive game on our end. Most players wait for sales to purchase a copy, hoping the price drops down a fair amount (like 30% and more), because it actually eats into our salary quite a bit. I was lucky to purchase my copy for about $15 somewhen around 2018-ish, when there was a sale event, and I even managed to get myself a free copy of Minecraft Windows Edition (which is basically Bedrock), which was given out as a redeem code if you purchased the Java Edition. Back then, the value of USD to CZK was a bit different, so it's hard to give you an accurate conversion, but it was still fairly expensive. I was taking a risk purchasing my copy. But I was determined to start a CZcams channel, and for that I actually wanted a legal copy of the game, and I didn't want to play cracked version online. Purchasing the game opened me to servers like Hypixel, Hive and many US-based servers. It was a gamble in essence, that paid off. I was uncertain if I did a right thing. Just because $30 looks cheap to you doesn't mean it's cheap for everybody else. Internet is *NOT* just USA, there's a whole another world out there. Remember that.
@@JumpyKaput You REALLY don't have a heart didn't you. here in indonesia it may be is cheaper than in like czech or something, but it's still about 400.000 IDR. still pretty expensive, and you SHOULDN'T call someone else's country economics a skill issue. If you were living on a 3rd world country you'll know how it feels
@@crossoverworlds2678Minetest and Vintage Story *exist* beside Minecraft. They don't, or really can't compete with it. Are they better alternatives for modding? I can't guarantee that, but the mods that I have seen on both fascinate me.
1. performance issues 2. can't play on mobile, console (pojav has issues too) 3. you can't really switch that easy if you've been playing bedrock for a long time 4. chat report system 5. can't transfer worlds from bedrock to java (don't get me wrong, java is good in it's own way, those are just the reasons why many players can't switch to java, and i'm not like a stupid mobile player I have a pc and a legally bought java & bedrock, I experienced all those issues because bedrock edition is the version I started playing on)
@@aceinetcodesgoodreasons 1. And 4. Also exist on bedrock. In fact I’d argue bedrock has worse preformance as there are lots of bugs that result in the player’s death. and permanent bans exist on bedrock as they originated on bedrock to begin with And yeah I get why many can’t switch to Java. It’s more expensive
This is Microsofts doing theyve been messing with modding on others games to the point that some of the game studios have threatened to discontinuing working with them. Microsoft is just being greedy again
They would not be able to remove mods from Java just because of how Java code is compiled, it would just take a little more time to map the modloaders without the obfuscation mappings
You cant make this community up. They literally want Java Edition ruined juat because bedrock got ruined. Like someone saying "if i cant have you, no one should have you"
@@tobyzillaconcidering how mojang have been listening to the community quite a lot this update, im positive that this will get resolved sooner or later
Besthesda's parent company ZeniMax has been owned by Microsoft since 2021 so I am just throwing that out there.....Everything pertaining to Skyrim has been hoovered over to the special edition/anniversary addition and they seem have disabled the OG Skyrim.
@@SamiPhoebeLuna Oh dang you got me there, I completely forgot about that!! That being said I am speaking from my experience as a fan who plays and mods a lot on Fo4 and Skyrim- although many missteps have been made forsure, at the end of the day i am always playing with the free mods and am happy they haven't been crushed (so far)
Now, I don’t make Minecraft mods, but I’m very familiar with reverse engineering games. I want to share my take on this as someone with years of experience on the field. The PDB file is basically the second best thing you can get besides the source code itself. It’s a map of name-address for classes and functions, having it means that you just have to search things by name in softwares like Ghidra to update mods. Like, assuming that the plug-in loader runs when the game executes a specific boot function (I know nothing about Minecraft plug-in loading again, this is hypothetical), the problem is that to make it run at that specific spot, you need to know where the code for it is located in the game exe, having the PDB means you can just search by name and get the address. If they don’t have it, they have to find this address manually, and that can take time. However, there are ways around it, and they are not too time consuming (unless they obfuscate the games’s exe), I’m talking about stuff like AOB scanning for those familiar with the job. Even if they remove it, I think people will eventually come around it and find a way to maintain their code. I’m active in the Souls community, my main work has been on Dark Souls 2, and we’ve never had PDBs for these games, it’s definitely possible, just harder and more time consuming. If someone knows about Minecraft inner workings and what I said here is wrong, please let me know. I just wanted to share an educated guess on this, but again I have never touched Minecraft for modding purposes in my life, so there are stuff I could definitely have missed
@@dhans9662 When it comes to games there are always more kids than adults. Adults are the loud minority; the kids are ignorent and docile to any change. That's why they can push it. 90% are people that can't stand up for themselves and 10% are not even using the version to complain. If 90% of the players were on Java I promise you that the Market place would've been on Java.
Only recently started experiencing Java for the first time. Only got Pixelmon Reforged with no extra mods (due to not knowing it was possible and is a first). Didn't know Bedrock could be modded. But going to be against the change to remove modding from Bedrock. Even if I do plan to move to Java.
Pixelmon Reforged is one of my favorite mods of all time. Depending on your preferences though I recommend also trying out Cobblemon. It’s another Pokémon mod that does mostly the same things, but the two are still different enough to the the point where I think you should try both to see which style of Minecraft + Pokémon you like more. Know beforehand that Cobblemon is still in development, so many of the moves don’t have particle animations and not all of the Pokémon are in the game yet. Personally, I’m waiting for the Pokédex to be completed and then I’m fully switching to Cobblemon.
Still sitting with my 200+ modded 1.12.2 Java edition. I don't plan on moving from it pretty much ever at this point with how screwed the updates have gotten.
Mods in bedrock is like server stuff and things that actually modify the game,"Addons" that are how they call mods in bedrock but they call them mods anyway,Will not be affected
@@lordraiyon3589AKA Useless, boring and blatant reskins that do piss all to actually effect the game in any noticeable or meaningful way. There's mods, and then there's these bootlegs that are these "addons." Very, VERY limiting and basically shouldn't have/have no reason to even exist.
You’d think they would split the two versions by now, huh? Unless, perhaps, they _want_ their consumers to want the older versions so bad, that they…? Either way, game gets more popular that way. Outstanding move.
i mean one bright side is it means all mods will eventually coalesce onto the last version that has the file no more updating mods due to game updates i guess lol
Knowing that they will force you pay for month to keep windows 10 instead 11 at 2025 I am not suprised they will gonna remove mods in minecraft java and what was the point creating an app for minecraft players to create mods easier without using a blender 💀
People keep saying, addons arent mods, they are, a mod is any form of modification made to a game, doesnt need to use the script to be a mod. Addon in this case is just referring to a specific type of mod
Please don’t bring up Java not getting bedrocks changes, we don’t wanna lose Java Edition to Micro transactions, console support, and lose the ability to mod
This kinda has similar echos to the back and forth the D&D community has had for decades with regards to the way copyright has been enforced over the years.
Add-ons are Minecraft bedrocks version of mods you can get add-ons for free people create them all over the internet you don't have to buy them from the marketplace
@@Jan12700 I don't know if you have played with marketplace add-ons. Or normal add, ons, but I don't see A. Reason for mods anymore. They do the same things
@@nobodys_here07 I’m a Java player and I played only with mods, no mods so then I don’t see the point in ever playing it again. Most of my friends too.
@lazarpetrovic1671 we tried that so many times. They just keep fucking us over, they did 1.17 in 3 parts, they did not add the birch forest overhaul, chat report. It is over we need to go nuclear
Sadly true. While it's true I have plenty of criticisms regarding Mojang and Microshaft's handling of recent updates (or certain updates in general, like the aptly nicknamed Update 1.9.84 that allows the company to literally spy on you and deprive you of access to the game remotely for the "crime" of saying something that someone may be "offended" by, even on your own private server); but even I find the online hate-mob tactics and death threats utterly reprehensible and vile. Not to mention it gives a bad name to those of us who actually have legitimate criticisms and the ability to keep a level head while voicing them.
Well, if Micro-jang decides to stop allowing modding, theres another game called Vintage Story that fully supports modding and its similar to Minecraft. In fact it was based off of a Minecraft mod!
Microsoft: Removes modding viability.
Minecraft players: Only play on the version that this update didn't apply to and mod every new update into that older version themselves so they never have to officially pay for mods.
Hey, people still play on 1.7.10 because a single mod is so good. Dragon Block C.
Plus I think we won't lose any sleep on these lazy poll updates.
Low key I kinda want this to happen just so I can be lazy and not have to keep making new folders lol
@@DeftestAphid2 ah, 1.7.10... good times. Thaumcraft 3 and many other awesome mods at their prime.
@@KoriKitsune don’t forget hbms nuclear tech!
Mojang: stop making free content in our game!
Modders: no! "Adds a dragon"
Mojang: if you wanna make mods you gotta pay us!
Modders: no! "Adds another Dragon and doesn't update Minecraft"
Mojang: but...
Modders: ...."adds another another Dragon"
“Hey you know that thing that’s been carrying our game for a decade?”
“Yea we don’t like that”
Nah, it carried java, not c++ remake. So it doesn't look that bad.
@@worldspam5682I wouldn’t call it “C++ remake”. There were always many differences. If you don’t call it Bedrock then Pocket Edition is the best name since it was designed for phones
@@worldspam5682that file pretty sure is only for bedrock
@@worldspam5682 they will try this on Java tho, don't be fooled
@worldspam5682 so it carried the entire game. Without mods on Java and the continued popularity of the original version, all other versions would never have been made. Minecraft without mods being an option just isn't minecraft anymore.
"It's for security reasons" has clearly become Mojang/Microshaft's go to excuse for implementing features intended to take more and more control over how people play the game and what they're allowed to say and do. It's positively Orwellian and I assure you with almost 90% certainty it has nothing to do with "security".
The entire reason Minecraft became so beloved in the first place was due to the creative freedom to play how you want and do what you want, when you wanted to, with little to no restrictions beyond your own in-game progression and acquired resources. Mojang/Microshaft are now stifling that freedom, and lying to our faces about their reasons.
What is lil Bro yapping about 💀
@@unbearablysmug2437 Try reading my comment in full before hurling insults.
@@timothyvanhoeck233 bro I know, I agree this mid stuff is dumb... But I literally died IRL when I read "Orwellian". Lil bro, don't you think you're over exaggerating a little?
@@unbearablysmug2437 No, I'm not. When certain words are banned or censored because, though they aren't offensive themselves, they contain all or part of a derogatory word within them (i.e. the names certain countries, like Japan or Nigeria are censored), or are allowed to censor normal speech because some thin-skinned moron may be offended by it, especially when you basically encourage ratting out your neighbor/fellow player for wrongthink, there is no other word to describe that other than orwellian.
I oppose all forms of censorship. Censorship is the tool of tyrants and cowards. When you cut out a man's tongue, you aren't proving them wrong; you're proving that you fear that which they have to say. At the end of the day, nothing good can ever come from censorship and speech suppression. Even if done with good intentions, need I remind people that some of the worst things imaginable have been done with "good intentions"
@@unbearablysmug2437 He's actually right for using the term since George Orwell coined that term to show that tyranny doesn't always need to with violence, the most effective lot of the time is through the changing or banning of words and their meanings.
Meanwhile, Terraria officially endorsed and supported it's modding client years ago, and they continue to do it.
i been enjoiying tmod lately, got cool new blocks and furnature to build with
and they also support mods in minecraft? bruh thats what happens when you dont do enough research, mods still work perfectly, it affected only bedrock, and who cares about the lesser minecraft edition, java is meant for mods, bedrock isnt.
@@lucasferrary3941bruh bedrock isn’t lesser than Java, both are good
@@lucasferrary3941 Bedrock is better in some ways.
Like, it can run, on almost anything that Java CAN'T.
@@raspiankiado thats where mods come in
Guess they got tired of Mods outperforming their “big updates”.
Mhm.
Big update:
-Bug Fixes
*Done.*
they probably removed it because they want to capitalize on the market place while screwing there whole modding community
NO, i'm a mod dev,but not really mod,"ADDONS" (The content in the marketplace),and no the content in the mp is not mods,mods is stuff like server plugins or things more complex that actually modify the game,addons are just stuff added
Yes they are.
@@lordraiyon3589 TOmato, TAmato. Mods and addons both add stuff to the game. Plug-ins are exactly what they say on the tin, you can't change my mind about it.
Next they're gonna disable the ability to make home servers so people are forced to use mc realms
whole minecraft will die cause of this
It's a greed-inspired move.
agreed greed whoring at its finest!
Good thing I pirated instead
Your not safe because it's an update @@gandalflotr2898
The moment they realized console players would pay tens of dollars for a single mod, it was so over
Im grateful for what we've got but there's a lot to hate in this timeline
A control inspired move. Having a thriving modding and social community for a game means that the game gets a lot of attention and thus a lot of customers. It also means that they have less control over the things they do, & words people speak on it. The marketplace is just an added benefit, but with it, the reality of making real java-quality mods is impossible
if mods really go away, especially world edit, then im genuinely never playing minecraft again. theres no way i can continue to build the massive things i make without tools like that.
Dont worry. Thats not really likely to happen. The article here missed a lot of important info.
play old versions. idk if that makes me the linux user of minecraft to tell other people to do this, it has been completely worth it for me. you can make choices. mutlimc or betacraft, mods, old versions, resource packs, it's worth it.
play Java edition.
@@maxthibodeau3627 not a viable option on consoles. Also this only affects a few niche details like client-modifications and a few specific BDS (bedrock dedicated server) modifications.
In other words, this isnt a "dunk on bedrock players for not playing java" moment.
@@maxthibodeau3627 world edit is only on Java edition so by process of elimination I thought y’all would know I already do*
Don't call it Mojang anymore. It's just Microsoft, calling it Mojang is an insult to the original.
AGREED 🤝
Real shit
mojang has always been a bit shit honestly, they promised modding api YEARS ago and never properly delivered. even when it was just notch he'd add dumb shit and ignore bugs that modders fixed easily and quickly. modders have always, ALWAYS been the reason minecraft is popular.
@@Ith4quanotch is a G bro
@@CaedesGladio nah you're misremembering bud. he's awesome for making minecraft in the first place but 90% of the content in the game is post 1.0, which is when he left the team. it was the little details he didnt fix that made things kinda suck, not the broad strokes.
Mojang doesn't understand that modding is literally Minecraft's life support.
Take that away and the game will plummet; in fact, mods are one of the main reasons the game got so famous.
Lithium, sodium, distant horizons
Performance mods literally make the game playable😂
Without it it's such an expensive game to run, if they disable mods, holyshit Minecraft is fucked
... The fact that Microsoft and Mojang need to have it explained to them as to why this move was a HORRENDOUS idea is just sad. There's shooting your product in the foot - and then there's blowing its effing legs off.
I wouldn't say that killing mod support is blowing Minecraft's legs off.... It's head. It's like blowing the HEAD of the game with a shotgun. Majority of people can keep playing the game thanks to mods, because vanilla Minecraft is a one trick horse that gets old fast and stays old for long. Without mods, no one even will just *be able* to play Minecraft more than like a week per year. Open it up for nostalgia's sake, play a bit, get bored, and leave for another year... That's the optimistic outlook even, because most people probably won't even return for that little
It’s profit, Get rid of the ability to mod Couple months later claim Java is actually performance inept and security compared to bedrock. Then we’re all stuck with Microsoft bedrock. As mojang Minecraft will die
@@notveryartificial4486 More like with an orbital laser that is also propelling an self contained antimatter relativistic railgun slug!
Lets just acknowledge the elephant in the room mojang removed modding to everywhere except the marketplace to force players to buy things they are greedy
Don't blame Mojang, they only follow orders. Blame Microsoft for that.
Very True
PDB files don't affect addons, also marketplace contents don't even use PDB files.
thats why bedrock sucks LoL
Addons aren't mods,i do addons btw
They clearly did this so people are forced to buy mods from the marketplace
There is free content outside the marketplace and you will not be affected by it
Microsoft just wants to recoup on their investment at the expense of the community at large
@@Felipe-rn1gf well there is a flie inside of bedrock that can be changed to where this will be affected . can download it , ok . but using will not load into the world
ADDONS ARE NOT MODS,mods are stuff like plugins for servers,addons(the stuff in the mp and pages) Will not be affected
& the sky is blue & water is wet. 🤯
If they added this crap to Java, Java players would tear Microsoft to shreds
Edit: Thanks for 280 likes! This is the most popular comment I have ever made!
If they are removing mods, they are making a grave mistake, the only reason Minecraft has lasted this long is because of the modding community. 😤
@@ImHimHeIsMe Agreed, for example, the Distant Horizons popularity with shaders, just to name one.
@@Coroshard exactly 👍🏻 that’s a major issue especially with naming a big mod like Distant Horizons yeah.
the good news is that they are physically unable to due to the nature of java and how easy it is to crack open
@@kuniokun9117 Maybe so, but we are talking about Microsoft here and if they are actually going through with this. That is bad news for Java, because if they find they can’t protect their code from being modded, that probably means the end of Java as we know it. Of course this is just speculation of what could come. It is however entirely possible.
Don't worry, the way Java works makes it literally impossible to prevent modding on Java Edition. Microsoft may be able to slow down Java modding, but they can never truly take it away from us.
Well depending on how deeply the recognition runs that the game runs mods it might be possible to make it impossible to play the game through it. Obviously players will find a way to fix it themselves. As you said, it's java, so literally an open book. But there are ways I can think of how I woukd make the game unplayable with 'mods from unofficial websites'
@@nobodyuwu3970 literally impossible. Custom launchers would quickly patch that out. FTB, Technic, etc would all patch that out in their launchers or just never use new versions(also a perfectly find choice since new updates are shit compared to mods)
@@CommanderRedEXE As said, Java is literally an open book, but there are way to make to make tge game unplayable without possibly extensive work, kike putting flags in checking the modfiles, if they are connected to their store, otherwise putting flags rabdinly into the code to make first close itself, if they found not officially supported mod and some other bits of code to make it crash if the first thing was circumvented.
Also if they truly decided to be malicous snd greedy enough they could still go the legal way with the laucher developers.
If they do tgat minecraft obviously would die, plus pote tial megal ramifications... but it us Microsoft were talking about.
Well. Minecraft source code is pulled from an "open" repository, including older versions. You need this source code to make mods and play older versions of the game.
This can be shut down anytime mojang wants. You'd better keep those old copies pirated or not
They can always just sue
Why do I get the feeling that Microsoft is doing this to force players to either buy mods off of their market or play on their servers?
Because that's exactly what they're doing
Cuz stakeholders and investors are not recovering enough from the cashcow they invested in. And they are now asking questions. No 1 rich bothers what happens at the bottom.
oh they are. Microshaft is a nasty greedy corporation who corrupts everything they get their grubby hands on
This is the exact opposite direction Mojang and Microwank need to go in if they want Minecraft to thrive... When Hytale comes out there is a huge community of people who will be leaving Minecraft for good because they'll be able to go to Hytale and go recreate any version of Minecraft in Hytale, make any changes they want to those worlds and every player can then play those worlds and make any changes they want. Mojang and Microwank should be allowing people the freedom to do the exact same thing in Minecraft if they want to compete with Hytale when it comes out.
About hytale I’m honestly unsure if it will do well (Seriously it’s been years since the first trailer and most people probably don’t even remember it. I’m really excited for it I’m just concerned there won’t be support to keep it going ya know?
@@scarecrow9501 didnt even know it was still alive
@@scarecrow9501 I believe when it gets closer to launch you'll see it explode in popularity again. When people realize the things they'll be able to do in game creating anything they want within the game using the same tools that were used to make Hytale it'll blow up. I suspect you'll see people who are into souls like games come over to create their own souls like games, people who were creating mod for Minecraft will move to Hytale, many CZcamsrs who mostly cover Minecraft will begin the shift to being Hytale CZcamsrs. It'll blow up in popularity mark my words. Personally I and a few of my friends are all planning to create a game that is similar to Remnant From the Ashes and Remnant 2 but inside Hytale.
@@scarecrow9501 Once hytale starts actually releasing stuff (like a beta), people will start getting hyped again.
Issue rn though is that it took so long minecraft java is now capable of a lot of things hytale promised it could do, so it has a bunch less stuff going for it. Hopefully the extra wait for the new engine will be worth it.
Screw them, they been falling off every single year is always disappointing.
Mojang deletes modding!
Everyone: so you have chosen financial death?
Time for a Minecraft boycott?
yep!!
Let’s play terraria instead
Minecraft boycot. I'll still play Minecraft, but I'll no longer be participating in anything they'll do. I'm a bedrock player who wants to play with mods. I want to play with a natural disaster or weather mod. I've been trying to get good ones but I can't find them or it doesn't work. My main concern is mod CZcamsrs like Doni Bobes and Fundy for example.
No it’s time to boycott Microsoft
we already bought the game
If modding support gets fully removed, I’d expect a lot more players to pirate the game
I don't play Bedrock, but I've voted, hopefully to make a difference.
Luckily on Java we can stay on old versions, and mod those. I'm currently running 1.19.2 as a good number of mods I like haven't updated yet.
Only issue with that is unless there's a way to fully seperate the java version from the launcher itself, all Microsoft has to do is just remove any ability to access the older versions of the game. And sadly, that is what they're leading up to. It's the slow-boil approach.
@@HappyHarbl I don't use the official launcher, but Prism Launcher. You can grab the jar file directly too if I remember correctly. Again not done that in a while, except when building a server.
@@HappyHarbl just use a different launcher.
1.19.2 is the standard version for mods rn so you should be fine
Bruh Mojang think they are Nintendo when they are not
Microsoft is killer of Minecraft
Mojang is also part of the problem as well
@@yoboi9504 Well said
mojang is also just a terrible dev team
Microsoft is the Killer of many things
I didn’t even know we could mod bedrock until now
they're called 'addons' which are just slightly more powerful versions of data packs, you find real mods for bedrock in a modloader like 'amethyst'
Just like PE Minecraft Addon
@@hothdogaddons and mods are different from what I heard, multiple devs said in comments that they are different
@@GuestyBoi_ what did I say?
@@hothdog you said addons and mods are the same thing but for more advanced ones you have to go to a mod loader
im genuinely sick of this, as a person who has been playing minecraft bedrock for 4 and a half years, this is infuriating. these new changes are the exact reason why im saving up for a new laptop that can run java well so i can switch over to it.
Dont know whare you are.
But you can get good used pcs for 150-300 usd that can run Large mod packs with maxed shaders .
Anything close or better then a gtx 1070 and your good for a long time.( only if you know whats good. Dont rush buying a used Pc , ask friends or family that know about Computers )
Good luck, that's harder to do with laptops. Not impossible, but harder.
The Bedrock Mods Are So Good Mojang Needs To Leave Them Alone
Addons will not be affected.
@@XAssassin1065they are literally in the marketplace
@@EXERGAMERZ no i use SCP add-ons which aren't in the marketplace ( I think they're talking about the type of add-on I use)
Edit: the SCP add-ons adds new monsters and guns and stuff btw
@@EXERGAMERZ I know. I'm an addon developer. I was pointing out the type of mod that the original commenter was probably referring to wont be affected by this change.
@@bobbybboley that addon may break in an update, but it wont be due to this change.
Literally the most blatant attempt to force people to their market place add-ons ive ever seen
As a Bedrock Developer, there is technically a major difference between mods and addons.
People can still make free addons and provide them over sites like modbay, mcpedl, and planetminecraft.
The PDB files let players make modified bedrock minecraft server softwear, as well as the closest thing to legitimate clients for bedrock.
yeah lmao. People can't tell the difference sometimes, but its good that addons are safe.
@@guardiandoesminecraft the video doesnt really do much to accurately cover the situation lol
True
@@guardiandoesminecraft it still crippled server software...
I still hate that realistic shaders are not applicable anymore...
if java removes mods it will be the one thing that actually kills minecraft.
luckily i got pirated versions
@@Obnax pirates life is good life
@@samuelramirez4985 yaaargh, aye matey
The moment I booted up that Minecraft Bedrock update for the first time and saw that it had a login screen and a built-in store with emotes and all that crap, I knew that we were doomed. If they ever decide to force that into java, Minecraft as a whole dies.
I really hate it when people attribute these things primarily to Mojang, and slightly to Microsoft. It's the other way around where most of the controversial stuff are from Microsoft more than they are from Mojang. I'm not saying Mojang is perfect, not by far (their dumb views on vertical slabs is a huge example among many). But think about it. Minecraft, a game made off the premise of being able to do whatever you wanted, mod in whatever you wanted, made by a studio who for the most part does right by their community, starts making anti-consumer/player changes after being bought by a company known for doing anti-consumer things? The push for parity? Microsoft. The push for Bedrock over Java? Microsoft as Bedrock fully came to be after their acquisition of Mojang. The whole thing with chat reporting and crack down on "mods that hurts the brand image"? Microsoft. Mojang had no issues with mods that adds gun imagery as far as I could tell, until one day it suddenly an issue. This push to remove community made mods to be replaced by the marketplace that Microsoft can more directly benefit from is 1000%, without a doubt, a Microsoft move. Mojang wouldn't benefit from this anywhere near where Microsoft would. Hell, Java doesn't suffer from this because there isn't an official monetized storefront like Bedrock. So no, this isn't people getting mad at Mojang with Microsoft catching strays, this is people getting made at Microsoft's insatiable greed with Mojang being the fall guy.
How the hell is microsoft catching strays when i can't even properly contain 1 without suffering from 3000 arrows to the face and 30 agonising seconds of slowness???? (All jokes aside tho, this is a serious issue as bedrock modding is going to heavily suffer, if not straight up die because of the lack of pdb files)
@@lazarpetrovic1671 Modding Minecraft is beyond me, let alone modding Bedrock lmso. I knew it was possible, but it wasn't until I watched TheMisterEpic's video last week that I started to understand how it was done. As an avid plsyer of both versions, this honestly pisses me off, even more so as an aspiring game dev and coder. This play is a real bad one and will bite Microsoft and Minecraft as a whole in the ass hard.
Microsoft is awful but they have nothing to do with development, Mojang have proven to be the problem tons of times
@EmperorPenguin1217 1: Yes Mojang have their issues, plenty in fact.
2: Microsoft has everything to do with development as they, the higher-ups, calls the shots and tell the developers what to do.
3: Most of Mojang developers works on Java, not Bedrock which is primarily Microsoft developers as it's the Microsoft owned and ran version.
4: How the hell would it make sense to blame Mojang for Microsoft making a change that would directly benefit Microsoft?
@@river559 No they don’t. They have absolutely nothing to do with developing the game and there’s no evidence otherwise. Both former and current devs have said that Micro doesn’t do anything. Even with things like chat reporting Mojang themselves approved on it.
The team is evenly split, and they’ve worked on Bedrock for years prior to it being named that.
Because Microsoft doesn’t make the changes to begin with. Minecraft’s mere existence benefits Microsoft, regardless of what they do.
The Anti - consumerism in modern gaming is going too far
What baffles me is the fact that this choice is basically giving an upper hand to their competition.
Hypixel Studios is still working on Hytale, and they announced early in the project that they will PROVIDE modders with tools.
It's as if Mojang was preparing for a competitor WHO'S NOT OUT YET to crush them into oblivion
I thought Hytale was dead.
@@jarodcoffin Nah, it's still in production and some closed betas have occurred
They are running this game into the ground for monetary gain. I hate corporations so much.
To give up freedom for security leads to lack of either, this is a very corporate greed driven strategy that will destroy the largest gaming community in history.
Account migration is stupid, like bro they should extend it to like 5 years since really, what if I was in a coma for 6 years and couldn't play minecraft at all.
I mean,... if the worst case happens, old version modding is going to take over. Period. It will outright replace newer minecraft versions if push comes to shove.
Reject 1.21 -ity, Return To 1.7.10
Preach it, brother in spirit
This is the point of no return.
If the ability to mod Minecraft goes, then a LOT of players will jump ship.
It’s that simple.
If you really think Microsoft is gonna listen, then think again.
This is why I'm never moving to bedrock. I enjoy how java is a game you buy for 30 dollars (Already cheap), and you can mod it and shape it into anything you want.
Edit:
It's cheap for a game. Alot of popular games cost around 65 dollars. NOT TO MENTION, with java you aren't just spending $30 on the game, but also you unlock a world of THOUSANDS of mods that let you make the game.
$30 is cheap? I wouldn't call that cheap. Here in Czechia, most people can't really afford it (which is why so many people play pirated version frankly - and this is also a sole reason why there are so many cracked servers in Czechia - they wouldn't have players otherwise), and just to show you what I mean, $30 (which is about €30 as well) is about 700 CZK. That's a fairly expensive game on our end. Most players wait for sales to purchase a copy, hoping the price drops down a fair amount (like 30% and more), because it actually eats into our salary quite a bit. I was lucky to purchase my copy for about $15 somewhen around 2018-ish, when there was a sale event, and I even managed to get myself a free copy of Minecraft Windows Edition (which is basically Bedrock), which was given out as a redeem code if you purchased the Java Edition. Back then, the value of USD to CZK was a bit different, so it's hard to give you an accurate conversion, but it was still fairly expensive. I was taking a risk purchasing my copy. But I was determined to start a CZcams channel, and for that I actually wanted a legal copy of the game, and I didn't want to play cracked version online. Purchasing the game opened me to servers like Hypixel, Hive and many US-based servers. It was a gamble in essence, that paid off. I was uncertain if I did a right thing.
Just because $30 looks cheap to you doesn't mean it's cheap for everybody else. Internet is *NOT* just USA, there's a whole another world out there. Remember that.
@@CZghostskill issue
@@JumpyKaput Did you just call a country's economics a "skill issue"?
@@JumpyKaput You REALLY don't have a heart didn't you. here in indonesia it may be is cheaper than in like czech or something, but it's still about 400.000 IDR.
still pretty expensive, and you SHOULDN'T call someone else's country economics a skill issue. If you were living on a 3rd world country you'll know how it feels
@@CZghost i feel you bro
The acquisition of Mojang has been a disaster for the Minecraft race
franchise*
like putting a halt to peoples creativity , all about control and greed . WE need a competator and fast
There is Minetest
Hytale:
@@thepurityofchaos lol lmao
@@crossoverworlds2678Minetest and Vintage Story *exist* beside Minecraft. They don't, or really can't compete with it.
Are they better alternatives for modding? I can't guarantee that, but the mods that I have seen on both fascinate me.
There's Terraria.
Meanwhile terraria and subnautica are still welcoming mod devs with open arms.
Modding has done so much for mojang. This move is self immolation business wise
WAKE UP Y'ALL! This is another reason why you should switch to Java.
1. performance issues
2. can't play on mobile, console (pojav has issues too)
3. you can't really switch that easy if you've been playing bedrock for a long time
4. chat report system
5. can't transfer worlds from bedrock to java
(don't get me wrong, java is good in it's own way, those are just the reasons why many players can't switch to java, and i'm not like a stupid mobile player I have a pc and a legally bought java & bedrock, I experienced all those issues because bedrock edition is the version I started playing on)
Reason 2 is why I dont play java
@@aceinetcodesgoodreasons 1. And 4. Also exist on bedrock. In fact I’d argue bedrock has worse preformance as there are lots of bugs that result in the player’s death. and permanent bans exist on bedrock as they originated on bedrock to begin with
And yeah I get why many can’t switch to Java. It’s more expensive
@@aceinetcodesgood Performance issue can be alleviated by optimisation like fabric sodium + iris
Only problem... Java is only on PC. The rest is Bedrock.
Big game corporations are greedy, this isnt a security powered change. it's a greed powered change.
Why are they removing the mods? Are they stupid?
Yes
Is there a lore reason they removed the mods? Are they stupid?
Guess there is no reason for me to even touch the game now, basic minecraft is so outdated.
This is Microsofts doing theyve been messing with modding on others games to the point that some of the game studios have threatened to discontinuing working with them. Microsoft is just being greedy again
Vintage Story would welcome Minecraft modders with open arms!
i dont play bedrock, i dont enjoy randomly blowing up for no reason.
They would not be able to remove mods from Java just because of how Java code is compiled, it would just take a little more time to map the modloaders without the obfuscation mappings
Java: "Skill issue"
Honestly java has no place to talk when they have the jenny mod
yall are next if yall just continue to just do nothing about because its not you
Mojang: youre next java
@@Agent-AstroxD
@@darknesswave100 Java: Ha
Why is Mojang still considered one or the good companies? They've been doing everything people hate about the industry and even worse at times.
Because people love the Block game a little too much and are blind to how bad things are really going for it.
I think you're talking about Microsoft
It’s Microsoft making these descicions
You cant make this community up. They literally want Java Edition ruined juat because bedrock got ruined. Like someone saying "if i cant have you, no one should have you"
Let’s be honest mods for games are what keep them alive. Without mods a game becomes stale and eventually forgotten
hope they get this resolved...
I doubt it
@@tobyzillaconcidering how mojang have been listening to the community quite a lot this update, im positive that this will get resolved sooner or later
@@lazarpetrovic1671 I still have my doubts about that because of Microsoft owning Mojang
Jesus not even Bethesda ever went this far
Besthesda's parent company ZeniMax has been owned by Microsoft since 2021 so I am just throwing that out there.....Everything pertaining to Skyrim has been hoovered over to the special edition/anniversary addition and they seem have disabled the OG Skyrim.
@@SamiPhoebeLuna Oh dang you got me there, I completely forgot about that!! That being said I am speaking from my experience as a fan who plays and mods a lot on Fo4 and Skyrim- although many missteps have been made forsure, at the end of the day i am always playing with the free mods and am happy they haven't been crushed (so far)
Oh so they pulling a ubisoft now
Now, I don’t make Minecraft mods, but I’m very familiar with reverse engineering games. I want to share my take on this as someone with years of experience on the field. The PDB file is basically the second best thing you can get besides the source code itself. It’s a map of name-address for classes and functions, having it means that you just have to search things by name in softwares like Ghidra to update mods.
Like, assuming that the plug-in loader runs when the game executes a specific boot function (I know nothing about Minecraft plug-in loading again, this is hypothetical), the problem is that to make it run at that specific spot, you need to know where the code for it is located in the game exe, having the PDB means you can just search by name and get the address. If they don’t have it, they have to find this address manually, and that can take time. However, there are ways around it, and they are not too time consuming (unless they obfuscate the games’s exe), I’m talking about stuff like AOB scanning for those familiar with the job. Even if they remove it, I think people will eventually come around it and find a way to maintain their code. I’m active in the Souls community, my main work has been on Dark Souls 2, and we’ve never had PDBs for these games, it’s definitely possible, just harder and more time consuming.
If someone knows about Minecraft inner workings and what I said here is wrong, please let me know. I just wanted to share an educated guess on this, but again I have never touched Minecraft for modding purposes in my life, so there are stuff I could definitely have missed
The only thing than keep minecraft alive is their modding community take that off and you will see how the game just sink under water like a rock
>Bedrock edition
And nothing of value was lost
Yeah it only makes up 11 of the 14 supported platforms
@@dhans9662yeah it also makes about 270Million players (30M for Java) about 90% of the player base.
@@qy9MC Goddamn I didn't even think it was that big of a ratio
@@dhans9662 When it comes to games there are always more kids than adults. Adults are the loud minority; the kids are ignorent and docile to any change. That's why they can push it. 90% are people that can't stand up for themselves and 10% are not even using the version to complain. If 90% of the players were on Java I promise you that the Market place would've been on Java.
@@qy9MC I certainly can't argue with that
If Hytale were far enough along this could have killed Bedrock.
Ah yes the Marketplace. The thing that half the time doesn't work for me.. just not letting me look at it at all
I think we should get the pitchforks again
Nah, the best move here is to be as loud as possible while remaining civil
Update: My pitchfork broke😅
agreed
My dude, we don't bring pitchforks. We bring Tridents.
Only recently started experiencing Java for the first time. Only got Pixelmon Reforged with no extra mods (due to not knowing it was possible and is a first). Didn't know Bedrock could be modded. But going to be against the change to remove modding from Bedrock. Even if I do plan to move to Java.
Pixelmon Reforged is one of my favorite mods of all time. Depending on your preferences though I recommend also trying out Cobblemon. It’s another Pokémon mod that does mostly the same things, but the two are still different enough to the the point where I think you should try both to see which style of Minecraft + Pokémon you like more. Know beforehand that Cobblemon is still in development, so many of the moves don’t have particle animations and not all of the Pokémon are in the game yet. Personally, I’m waiting for the Pokédex to be completed and then I’m fully switching to Cobblemon.
Still sitting with my 200+ modded 1.12.2 Java edition. I don't plan on moving from it pretty much ever at this point with how screwed the updates have gotten.
Mods in bedrock is like server stuff and things that actually modify the game,"Addons" that are how they call mods in bedrock but they call them mods anyway,Will not be affected
@@lordraiyon3589like data packs?
@@LunerEclipseHD yes
@@lordraiyon3589AKA Useless, boring and blatant reskins that do piss all to actually effect the game in any noticeable or meaningful way.
There's mods, and then there's these bootlegs that are these "addons." Very, VERY limiting and basically shouldn't have/have no reason to even exist.
@@KFC_legs k dummy
You’d think they would split the two versions by now, huh?
Unless, perhaps, they _want_ their consumers to want the older versions so bad, that they…?
Either way, game gets more popular that way. Outstanding move.
At this point, modern minecraft is gonna get so bad, that there will be mods that backport only the good parts of future modern minecraft.
i mean one bright side is it means all mods will eventually coalesce onto the last version that has the file no more updating mods due to game updates i guess lol
Knowing that they will force you pay for month to keep windows 10 instead 11 at 2025 I am not suprised they will gonna remove mods in minecraft java and what was the point creating an app for minecraft players to create mods easier without using a blender 💀
Litteraly do not worry about java modding because they would just mod it the old way because you can just modify the jar file
2:54 "He who trades freedom, for security deserves neither, and will lose both."
I miss notch
Same
Same, the guy knew what was best for the game because he literally made what was good about it to begin with.
People keep saying, addons arent mods, they are, a mod is any form of modification made to a game, doesnt need to use the script to be a mod. Addon in this case is just referring to a specific type of mod
Just don't update minecraft guys
cant do that on bedrock lol
@@billboeineven if you could, this will only affect the server, NOT the client (the thing you are playing)
@@aceinetcodesgood you play on both at the same time even in singleplayer.
@@billboein you still will be able to download addons (which is probably what you used before)
Anyone who plays console would be fucked lol. (Online 24/7)
Please don’t bring up Java not getting bedrocks changes, we don’t wanna lose Java Edition to Micro transactions, console support, and lose the ability to mod
Worried about security as Microsoft literally adds spyware to their os
makes perfect sense
Windows is Spyware for years now
This kinda has similar echos to the back and forth the D&D community has had for decades with regards to the way copyright has been enforced over the years.
Add-ons are Minecraft bedrocks version of mods you can get add-ons for free people create them all over the internet you don't have to buy them from the marketplace
But the add-ons are very limited compered to mods.
@@Jan12700 I don't know if you have played with marketplace add-ons. Or normal add, ons, but I don't see A. Reason for mods anymore. They do the same things
@@tyler69 On a Frontend Level yes with many tricks, but in the Backend you can do much more.
@@Jan12700 +-, bedrock is multiplataform, mods are complicated
This is a literal disaster… I wonder if the Cracked Minecraft community will grow either strong or become crippled…
You wasted 1min about a game that’s not even the real Minecraft
Minecraft still stands without an official non-third party mod page, skin customizer & comprehensible server set up
make more noise about it
If this happens to Java I'll never ever touch the game again, and neither will my future kids
IM STUCK ON BEDROCK
Just get Java?
@@manganistDIMITRI not everyone has a computer
get mcpedl or pojav
@@manganistDIMITRI I don’t have a computer
We can’t just buy one when we need one
Whelp, it's gunna suck trying to find old mods and plugins 10 years from now
so just like that Minecraft is 100% dying..
Not really, since most people who play modded are on Java
@@nobodys_here07 I’m a Java player and I played only with mods, no mods so then I don’t see the point in ever playing it again. Most of my friends too.
@@Kleadsy Okay? But this change only affects Bedrock. I don't see the problems with Java
@@Kleadsymojang can't remove modding from Java they can only do that by removing minecraft from Java edition itself
In case if anyone is confused, its Mod support for Bugrock Edition that Minecraft is screwing over
Minecraft news, the only good channel with it
Rockstar, Mojang, and Activision smh.
at this point there are no bad targets only weak tactics
conclusion:
HARASS EVERYONE ON MOJANG
Harrasement is a no go, the best way to go about this is to be as loud as possible while still remaining civil
@lazarpetrovic1671 we tried that so many times. They just keep fucking us over, they did 1.17 in 3 parts, they did not add the birch forest overhaul, chat report. It is over we need to go nuclear
Absolutely not. Do they deserve harsh criticism for their many blunders over the years? Yes. Harassment? No.
@EmperorPenguin1217 the only criticism they deserve is constructive criticism, however I'm glad that both of us agree that harrasement is too mutch
Go after Microsoft not Mojang.
if they try this with java edition minecraft is basically over it will be essentially just killing the entire game itself.
The Minecraft community are always mad lol
Its justified
I wouldn't say it always is. Making propoganda over the mob vote is a bit much (the mob vote does have flaws though).
if only mojang was anything like a good dev team, meanwhile other games usually don’t have this much controversy
Sadly true. While it's true I have plenty of criticisms regarding Mojang and Microshaft's handling of recent updates (or certain updates in general, like the aptly nicknamed Update 1.9.84 that allows the company to literally spy on you and deprive you of access to the game remotely for the "crime" of saying something that someone may be "offended" by, even on your own private server); but even I find the online hate-mob tactics and death threats utterly reprehensible and vile.
Not to mention it gives a bad name to those of us who actually have legitimate criticisms and the ability to keep a level head while voicing them.
@@timothyvanhoeck233 Yeah Death threats are way too far.
Well, if Micro-jang decides to stop allowing modding, theres another game called Vintage Story that fully supports modding and its similar to Minecraft. In fact it was based off of a Minecraft mod!
Bedrock mods always trash
Shut Up Bedrock Mods Are Good
Wrong, they improved a lot, before it was just a retexture of another mob. and look what it’s like today!
@@dimdamveler7886agreed, some add-ons like worldedit which bedrock hasn't seen for years are masterpieces
Clown probably doesn't even play bedrock
Did he know about Actions & Stuff?
Mojang is stooping to a new low and I thought that making you pay for mods was the lowest they could go but they surprised us all.
Linux Users
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If they remove mods, the game will suffer like it never had in the past.
Microsoft just cannot STAND the idea of community working FOR FREE to created BETTER content and games then they would ever be able to. 😑
If they remove mods from java I'd guess at least 75% of players would stop playing minecraft