We Need to Talk About GOP’s ‘Black Friends’ - Elie Mystal
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- Elie Mystal talks how this election will be the most crucial one we have ever experienced. If Trump gets back in, he's not leaving!
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Not voting is not an option. The fact that folks still need to be convinced to vote is wild.
They genuinely think that Biden and Trump are the same. Their apathy will be their undoing.
@@muadhnate You mean *our* undoing? Unfortunately, it just won't impact them.
And therein lies a very serious problem: the voting for "MY best interest" trope.
We've all been corraled into this voting "mindset." There are 342 million of us in this country, of which approximately 328 million are of voting age. If you strictly vote "what's in it for me?"... that's ALOT of directions the votes go in, and yes, somebody's going to get disappointed.
You simply cannot please everyone. Period.
Sometimes, depending on the parties' agendas... you have got to vote with your hand UP 🫸🏽 instead of your hand OUT🫴🏽.
Instead of voting for what you can GET out of the deal? You may need to vote instead for what you don't want FORCED UPON YOU.
There are alot of cultures that make up this already great nation and no one can have it all!
But likewise, you should consider political agendas that are more all-encompassing that equally help our nation as a WHOLE, excluding no one.
Sometimes, that means not getting EVERYTHING you want, but alot of what you NEED, and OTHERS will get what they need as well.
Don't fall for the vile political agendas that seek to divide the electorate and make everyone retreat to their defensive corners.
We need to vote based on what's best for our country as a whole.
Inside the "whole" will/should be "some" fixes for all of the country's cultures.
Vote in the right people that will enforce the laws and support the constitution for ALL OF US.
Say that to the crowd in 2020 that little over 1/3 that didn't vote that could have.
@@l-doggwilly6246 beware of the GOP Project 2025
I am an older white woman who is very concerned about what may be coming for black people and Hispanic people, if Trump is elected. He is also is a threat to all of us. Please vote. Your vote is important.
same
To @marciadempsay6104 Thank you for comment. You are 100 💯 percent correct. Your vote is your voice. Vote 🗳 BLUE UP AND DOWN THE TICKET
It's not about the lesser of two evils,I'm an independent but I'm voting for the Democrats no matter whose the candidates bc of the Heritage agenda to dismantle the constitution of the US... Trump is a dumb pawn that's being played like a puppet...and he doesn't even know it. So vote blue and bite the bullet for four years versus putting a fascist dictator in the most powerful office in the world
Google project 2025
To all of us who don't comply with their beliefs
Definitely your vote is your voice!!
😮Wow, this is powerful! Stay woke, everyone. Vote for Democrats in every election 💙🇺🇸👍
Being tired and still voting sounds a hell of a lot better than sitting democracy out and letting any hard-fought rights unravel on overdrive.
that part. Yes.
@@-BUFFALOMan seems as if people here don't understand a whole lot...
Well put.Theres no excuse to not vote. Voting by mail works so well where I live, it's easy peasy.
@@KarenHunterShowwhat "people here" are you talking about. Every comment I've seen appear to agree that voting is a must!
Thank you for your voices. We need to keep defining the problems so we can find solutions.
We need more Elie Mystal on TV and CZcams.
He is the Black version of the KKK
Democrats forget that the Supreme Court is on the Ballot.
No one has still answered for me what exactly is the problem with President Biden and no one has one. I don't want to hear anything about age, especially when Iowa reelected Grassley who at 88 in 2022. There are multiple senators with longer terms than the president who is older than him.
Look around. Biden's policy benefits Israel, Ukraine, illegal immigrants, and the 'letter community'. Trump won't benefit us either. So who's for us? No one!
It's mainly single issue voters. Those against the genocide in Gaza. Those who want student debt relief (although this group seems to be woefully uneducated about the steps that Biden has already done despite the Republicans and SCOTUS. Then there are the ones who just want to watch the world burn.
Exactly....there is no problem eith Biden. maga tried to dirty him up for years and nothing stuck, nothing. Besides, the policies he's enacted have moved this country in a positive direction.
He has done nothing for the people who got him the job, it wasn't Asian people is sure as hell wasn't any of these illegals he is letting in, and under the Democrats watch black people have lost parts of the voting rights act, loss parts of the 14 amendments and equal rights and privacy rights, no John Lewis act, no police reform not a peep about that our number one concern since the early 1920's, No economic plan for black men.
He was 89 year old racist
No we don't need to talk to black conservatives--either they are grifters or truly lost.
No need to waste your energy either way.
This is the dumbest comment to date.
Congrats and enjoy that ignorant life of victimhood and bigotry.
Voting for democrats isn’t helping us either.
Slavery, Jim Crow, KKK, redlining and all forms of black oppression was done by the Democrat Party, and today Democrats oppress blacks by blocking school choice which keeps black kids in failing schools.
Also, studies show at least 1 million blacks are unemployed due to illegal immigration but yet most blacks will still vote for Jim Crow Joe Biden and Democrats, the same people responsible for dumping illegal migrants in black communities. So if black conservatives are the lost ones then what do you call blacks who Democrat like fools for nothing but destruction in return?
I say this constantly; ATP...they are lost causes.
These are the people who are PROUD to stand behind Trump at a rally. WTF?
Stay focused local and state government 💙🗳💪🏻💪🏽
Women's Rights 💪🏻💪🏽💙🗳
Yea men in women's sports, lockerooms, bathrooms, and gender identity for little girls, etc. Vote 💙💙💙 for women's right.
imagine voting entirely on the premise of identity politics and the fear of 1% of the population. meanwhile, white supremacists and religious zealots are pushing for a theocracy, trying to overthrow democratic elections, and defending a conman who was best buds with Epstein and found liable of r*pe in a court of law. maybe democracy WAS a mistake, considering all the morons that end up voting.
Thank you, Prof. Hunter and Ellie Mystal, for having this conversation.
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
Our people (those who're undecided) appear to have a daunting task when it comes to who they should vote for.
My message to these uncommitted voters is to wake up and SMELL the smoke coming from the burning kitchen, which, if it goes unchecked, will burn the whole house down!!
I dont understand how some of us are not waking up to the truth about the stark differences between the two candidates.
Our people, more than others, know we are the ones who will be disproportionately affected. For many of us, this is home. There's nowhere else for us to go.
There's too much at stake for us to sit this election out. To do so is to give up our hard fought rights and our destiny.
Let's all get off our butts and go vote 💙💙💙💙 (if not for ourselves, at least for our children/grandchildren)!!
🙏🏾🖤💯
Well. We will STILL SIT IT OUT.
@stopiwantoff7965
What can I say, 'you're one in a million'.
"We need to fight for it [democracy] with both hands."
AMEN!!! Please vote and get involved in our local and state elections, too.
Thank you! Karen Hunter for giving Ellie Mystal this opportunity to explicitly state the serious differences of what is at stake. Starting around 8:20 with birth control to 14:24 allowing perpetuators of domestic violence to get guns.
He always has an open seat at our table.
@@Brandon-lw1wx is this a fat joke? I hope not...I pray you're not so base and immature as that.
My grandfather used to say, "Experience is a dear teacher but a fool will learn no other way". I'm at a point where I vacillate between totally giving up on people and believing there's hope. At this stage of the game, I'm preparing for when SHTF. I pray that I'm wrong but there are too many people who will only learn the hard way (be it from apathy, distraction, stupidity, whatever).
Exactly. The folks who sit out this election and if Trump gets back in they will be the ones crying the loudest.
Of course the next election they will vote Republicans out in mass but go back to sleep again. Basically setting up the same scenario.
Hang on to the Hope,never let that go!
Either candidate is worth moving from one's sofa.
@@ericmckinney4607 Sitting out is insane. The GOP on the local and state levels are making strides right now all over the US. Couch sitters need to get a clue.
I struggle with that but for our grandchildren it's essential to keep faith in humanity and be a part of that.
Love your show and love Mr Elie Mystal!
Aaaaah sorry but he does not LOVE you WHITE LADY..
Alot of young people genuinely have no idea how government works. They really don't understand. So it will be a good to have a few episodes to explain how the US government works.
I'm little talking about "school house rock, I'm just a bill" basics.
Sister, I love this conversation and will post this on my page. Keep up the great work.
This is what I keep telling people. If you don't want to vote for Biden, fine. Just vote for progressives and Dems in your state and local elections. State legislatures and governors are just as important, if not more.
Exactly.... that's how these Republicans banned books ,banned abortion or restricted abortion aid cut off Medicaid for children etc allowing state Republicans and state senate to win and the governor to pass these state laws
I'm staying home not one Democrat deserves my vote.
@@colberthunter12 Why?
@@colberthunter12 Unless your state has expanded Medicaid and free lunch programs, up-to-date infrastructure and public transportation, and the best schools, you should be voting. Feeling hopeless is a tactic that keeps us from demanding better. Don't fall for it.
@@yasutalodin4266bcuz she hates herself and her own people, she doesn't believe we're worth fighting for
I think about my ancestors and all they did for me when I feel tired. No effn way I am going to let their lives be in vain. No matter how weary, I am getting out to vote for Biden.
Thank you💙
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Very well expressed; iam there with you!💯
That's so inspiring. And beautifully put. It's a positive way to honor them. We owe it to our children and grandchildren to keep paving the road to justice. As they did for us.
Hear, hear!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Thank you, Ellie Mystal, for your intellectual honesty and your heartfelt commitment to bettering this nation, and thank you for the specific points you made about Joe Biden's commitment to diversity and democracy and justice. You are very much appreciated, sir.
You heard that saying... with friends like these, who needs enemies!! ✊🏾
Every Election is about Turnout!
Karen nailed it (particularly at the 14:45 min. mark). maga is all about returning to times when women and minorities didn't have any rights. when white men were able and empowered to do whatever they wanted without any accountability and consequences for any wrongdoing - the need to maintain absolute power and control.
Thank you,Karen and Elie.⭐🌹⭐🌹
It's our American duty to vote
For America first.
@@LibertarianLatina Trump is for Trump first not America or anyone one else.
What changes for black people??? 🙄
What is America's duty to its people seems like everything we do is our duty to the America but not so much the other way around
But vote for what is the question? To “exercise” the right to vote just for the sake of doing it is stupid. Go to the gym for that. Voting is quid pro quo. They get in and therefore do right by us or else. Too many black folks are hustling backwards when it comes to politics.
Karen, thank you for using your bullhorn to alert us to what's coming. You are a warrior!
Excellent guy
Elie is 100% right on how to stay on DEFENSE---this is a basic strategy that you learn in the military. Our national and local service and community organizations need to strategically implement this defensive strategy-WE CAN ADVANCE OUR OWN INTERESTS BY TURNING OUT IN LARGER NUMBERS and actively getting involved in commuity POLITICS!
THAT AFRO PICK IS A REAL STATEMENT....IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE COVER OF YOUR BOOK..
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Love, love it.
That itself is a statement.
Why is it that I’m just finding out about this man??? I must have been living in a cave. 5 minutes into this discussion and I’m a fan. He’s kicking pure FACTS, speaking truth to power. He’s the real deal. That Afro pick tells me all I need to know 👍🏾👊🏾
I hear the press saying Black people love Trump. Yet I haven't met any. Now the press says the Bronx loves Trump. 😂😂😂
Propaganda 101 mate! Don't believe the hype as Public Enemy once said
Especially the sneakers and the mug shot gimmick. They spewed some crazy rhetoric
They always say that based on opinion polls but he hasn't budged to their expectations.
It's an amazingly arrogant & disrespectful ploy of these white supremacist misogynists'!! They truly hate us & don't even know why any longer.... it's a sick, sad psychopathy!!!
They LIE to the most gullible black people who will blindly follow without question.
Karen, would you please help your followers to truly understand what Autocracy is and what is truly at stake with this dangerous person whose goal is to be the first Autocrat of these United States? 🙏🏽💙
Urban View (SiriusXM, Ch. 126) does a masterful job of this through Lurie Daniel Favors (10-noon ET), through Clay Cane (noon-3 p.m. ET). I post these clips in hopes that people actually WANT substance and will tune in to the actual show and then be introduced to the others (Reecie Colbert on Saturdays, etc.). But it seems that far too many just want mental junk food.
@@KarenHunterShow*Thank you for the line-up!*
Excellent discussion. I love talking about the extra topics that are on ballot besides the president.
many Americans don't know how the government works. That's the problem. Then on top of that you have the fox propaganda network, newsmax, etc.. lying to their viewers day after day. Let's not get started on social media. People better wake up.
I demand that they explain their claims. Each time I engage one of them, they make a statement, then I give an adequate breakdown, and they jump to something else without engaging what I said. I continue to bring it back until they respond to my counter. Or else, it won't be a conversation, just them spewing ignorance , and you wasting yours and their time.
a lot of these people are beyond help. you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
Imagine how exhausting and soul crushing slavery would be?! That's what I believe is their ultimate plan for us black folks.
We officially entered the "twilight zone" when Trump went down that escalator. We are traumatized and shell shocked but need to press on for our children and thier kids.
The stakes have never been higher and we need all hands on deck. America has taken too much for granted and needs to unite like WW2 against fascism. Its just domestic terrorists we are fighting now.
This woman and her guest have earned a new follower... The best commentary, anywhere on dominance and power.
This woman is a professor. A black Job.😊
I am exhausted but not too exhausted to go and vote! You can be tired but not lazy!
This discussion was 100% ON POINT!!! THANK YOU!!!
I love the Afro pick in Elie’s hair. Reminds me of the 1970s. 😊
Agree, for some of us Boomers the pick evokes fond memories and the wonderfully epic fros back in the day.
What a wasted and Stupid Opinion. Hopefully someday, your intelligence may manage to come to the fore, the next time you give an opinion.
@@DFHarr💯💯💯
This was so informative and smart! Elie never misses in explaining these things to the people. Thank you. Good job Karen!
But here's the thing 😢 those kinks are already working out in Red states. My fear is that it's no longer a Trump problem. It is trumpism, meaning even if he is elected or not, this fascism is here to stay.
Vote it out!
Now you get the point
Luvvvvvvv Elie! Please have him on more.
Project 2025. That’s one thing that’s different this time. Very scary future if they pull it off. 😢😢😢😢. Ellie Mystal is a national treasure.
It's already happening
All the distress of the hate and division created by the trump maga agenda is sooo dangerous. People are being unmotivated to be involved. As a defense against the great depression and anxiety of all this mess. I agree that i don't care to talk to those that won't listen. Pushing others to go vote is the work we need to be focused on. ❤
MAGA didnt divide. Your media and worthless government did and when America spoke up you fell for the propaganda they fed you about the truth of their objectives.
Now your children, neighbors and country will suffer.
Good job.
I had to come back to listen again. My FB has over 4,000 friends and is very diverse in ethnicity. I am going to share this video clip with them and hope they share with their friends. "Push your allies...don't worry about the knuckleheads". I LOVE this! So now I will put it into action.
I love the hammer and anvil of truth Elie always brings to the conversation!
I work with a young black man who absolutely will not be convinced to vote. He's educated and professional, carries himself with the utmost dignity and respect. He's acutely aware of the nation's problems. He just doesn't believe that voting will make a difference. He's already given up on the ability to right this ship through active democracy. Every time we discuss it, I come away feeling more discouraged. But it's important to keep trying. We all owe it to future generations to have the conversation.
He's not educated
This man can’t be educated beyond “book sense”. There is another element of educated “common sense”/wisdom that this man doesn’t have. The choice between Biden and Trump is binary. A child could see this. An uneducated person could see this. This guy has another problem!!!
Well said!!! We will destroy our own Interest in letting Trump back into office. It’s not going to get better for Us, we have to be Smartter. But we only have ourselves to blame, stop being lazy voters. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💙🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Trump did nothing more than pushback on the established order. That you bootlick for the very people that have destroyed your economic future says a lot.
Someone should come along and tell them what to be interested in so they know their own best interest
So what is trump going to do that is going to be harmful, what policy?
About a month ago trump said that he will give police complete immunity, meaning they can murder black people with no consequences @@colberthunter12
@@colberthunter12everything. What is he going to do that good for black people? He's not smart, trustworthy, he's a criminal, racist, want me to go on?
Good show thank you Karen 💙💙💙💙💙💙
If you stay home thats a vote for trump
amen,folk get out and vote.
Elie Mystal is FANTASTIC!!! Have him on more! That was some excellent commentary about young men and rejection. Many men go through that, and need to hear that.
Thank you very much. This video hit home so many ways. Between the struggle to protect/prepare our children, with leaders blaming others for the problems of the country, and working with Dems because they can be reasoned with. All of that and more resonated with me and got me thinking. Keep up the good work.
My Black Folks, If The Nazi Wins, And While You're Trying To March And Protest. Please Don't Sing, We Shall Overcome. Just Don't Do That, While I'm Watching You From Somewhere In South America.
Am watching from Canada and shaking my head for blacks who will vote for Trump and blacks who can simply sit at home and not vote
Thank you for having Elie Mystal. Great communicator. He has his finger on the pulse of America.
I got into politics when the price of candy went up. This was during the Cuban crisis. I couldn't even vote, but I wanted to know why. I had a real candy addiction at the time. October 1962, penny candy went from a handful for a penny to one piece for a penny. You must have a voice in every aspect of your life, I will never sit around and let someone control my life without my voice being heard. Even if it's just my small voice! When you sit at home you let someone else control the narrative you let them control, I love to be in control. Let your voice be heard. Oh yea I was 11 in 1962. VOTE EVER TIME YOU CAN!!!
❤😊..I will get out and Vote, no matter What.
Elie Mystal is always bringin' the knowledge and facts 👍🏼
We are in a very scary time.😢
The problem laid manly with people like ice cube, kanye west, s a smith, ctg, tyt,..etc, telling low information voters not to vote for democrats (Biden). Lots of hosts claim this is what they are hearing, but I don't know any black people personality who is even thinking about voting for tRUMP. I believe the 8 year trend will continue with Biden and the democrats winning big. VOTE BLUE 🗳
I love you, Karen! You're sooo Dope 🌷🌻
thank you, David!
Real talk.
An empowered woman can make a choice!!! Exactly, Dr. Hunter!!
There needs to be outreach to church members across the country.
I'd love to see KH, Thom Hartman, Richard Wolff and Marc Lamont Hill zigzag across the south explaining the facts. Many people live in an echo chamber online.
Elie has a great legal mind! Hope that you have him back on as the election gets closer.
I try to tell other black folks, no things aren't perfect now, but things can get worse.
Informative
We know that BOTH candidates are at a certain age. There is also a possibility that Biden may get ill and they don't want out VP to tack charge. So people tell three people of three different age groups to get out and vote for Biden. We need someone in charge that is not bitter and vindictive. Thank you both for this show.
Thank you for the information
I am 58. I'm a veteran and a progressive.
I am the father of very driven and successful kids:, men and women, from all margins of social, economic, and racial origins.
This time, under Biden, is the greatest of times to be in the margins...
People vote please. Go out and vote. Republicans are up to something on the voting process. Vote for blue.
Love 😊Y'all for Keeping It REAL..💜💜💜
Love everything said here👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Biden should use you in his campaign your awesome. I like it when you are on msnbc. Everything you are saying is at point good show
Hello Professor Karen Hunter I have a request next Saturday can you and Dr Carr Walk us through Project 2025 and do a deep dive because I really feel it's needed 7 months B4 this election 🤔
Ms. Karen, I get those same pop up games and I say to myself who in the world would want to download this sadness and ridiculousness. What has our nation come to?
sad people who want to oppress others virtually.
These young people need to speak with their parents concerning what a president should be able TO do READ YOUR HISTORY BOOK TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A president should do.
More Elie Mystal 👍❤️
Wait yall ! we’re literally talking about a convicted rapist ! facing life in prison, whoever think it’s a honor or privilege to be a criminal ,please don’t teach that to children for their sake .
IDK... I'm hearing from historically Democratic Blacks who aren't voting or voting independent NOT because of Republican talking points... but because they're tired of the Democratic Party largely ignoring them. Maybe it's just my circle of influence, but I'm hearing this argument more & more online. 🤷🏿♂️
Ignoring them , wait till they have no freedom.
@@DavidFredrick-lm6pq Dope, but ya'll been saying that since I was in high school. Reagan, Bush Sr, Dubya, Trump werw all supposed to be the Antichrist. Somehow we survived.
Here's a fun fact, any "freedoms" that Black Americans have lost have been with the Democratic Party looking on and doing nothing while enjoying our 96% vote. Make it make sense!
Y'all need to ask yourselves WHY ARE WE IGNORANT AS HELL ❓👈
As a white democrat who recently found your show, i agree were easier to talk to, my wife and i are the only dems in a family of 18 GQP that we moved to within a mile of to be closer to family in 2015, bad idea. My son showed up with a flag on his truck with my new grandson 3 yrs old, when they were eating the wind blew his blue flag a long ways away, i suspect near the dump.
Watching this on July 26th. OMG, I’m finally feeling a bit less panicked. Kamala is giving me hope that we can save our country. Vote 💙
😊. Thanks Karen and Elie.Very good and important.
We can all do our part though! DRAG SOMEONE WITH YOU TO VOTE!
Dude is so correct.,..
Frangela calls Tim Scott BISCUIT . The house slave that would betray those attempting to escape the plantation, and be rewarded with biscuits .
We have to work to get people vote in their own interest. All your listeners need to read this book The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee
Preach✊✊✊✊
Your show sheds light on so many things. I'm wondering if you or if you can have someone on your podcast who can explain the process of getting REPARATIONS. It's sad when I hear a lot of black people say, they're not voting unless they give black people REPARATIONS. Because I don't think they truly understand. It's unsettling to me to hear them say this. Because it's so obvious that if you don't vote, that REPARATIONS are not going to happen
"Addiction to power is foundational to America" - Pure, 100% truth right there
Exactly why BOTH of these people support Biden even with his genocide record.
Power absolutely is the only mission of the people that already have it!!!
Keep the momentum going and vote blue for the new future president of the United States of America,Vp Harris 🎉🎉😊😊
Make it so plain!!!
Need to ask the real question of whether they republican or MAGA. Yes, I believe that there is a difference.
If I were applying for a positon and i had the resume and history of Trump, they wouldn't trust me on the job to behave correctly or to be fiscally responsible but for some reason these same people want him to run the country. The psychology of this is the American problem.
Best quote to sum up where we are, “What he have today because everyone’s lazy, lazy bitter people who don’t want to read, they don’t want to work on themselves, and they want to blame everybody for why whey aren’t where they think / feel where they need to be and they have a tribe now and they have a tribe leader.”
Great points addressed here. America's addiction to control with no accountability has saturated the fabric from its inception and it has now come home to roost.
Trump has lost the popular vote twice and even the recent convictions for rape and other felonies (34 so far) don't invalidate his candidacy for president? Either I'm missing something or I'm not.
Deeply appreciate your insights here.
Elie Mystal is amazing 👍
he really is.
2 SCOTUS nominations will be on Trump’s desk if he gets reelected. That’s on the ballot this year!!! Vote blue.
yup.
On 🎯💯!
There were slaves so hypnotized that they loved the master more than themselves.
That would be Clarence Thomas
Concentrate on the male vote let men know the cost of child maintenance should all birth control be outlawed