I bought the skorp g ages ago, never missed. Now, I'm lucky to hit a barn regardless of how much I aim. The su, for me, is so much more accurate, hits harder and better camo. It also has the magical area between turret that alot of shells go thru.
I play my Skorp G now and again, I think conspiracies around reduced accuracy is a load of BS, hits about the same as it always has, still a very good tank. That said I have always preferred the SU.
@TandemSix For me it is my first German TD. I got it from the Collector's store after I researched the Tier VIII GW Tiger P. It convinced me to start German TDs and I'mcurrentlyat the Tier IX waffentrager. I must say, the games with the stock and second game sucks, but after getting the 12.8cm oh boy. I got 5 kills in my first game with that gun.
@mosayyeed the German TD's are really good. But, as far as I am concerned, JP II is the best tier-for-tier turetless TD. It's reasonably fast, nuclear missile cannon, nearly bulletproof super-structure, good rammer, high DPM, accurate, hits hard, reloads fast. I took that in tournaments with my mates. I was their TD guy
Skorpion got its reputation as an OP tank because it made the Rhm Borsig nearly obsolete when it came out all those years ago. Of course more powerful premiums have come out since, just like the Defender is crap now too.
Gg to both tankers. Amazing game 1. I have 2 moe on skorp and one on su. SU is better but I play better in Skorp for some reason. Nice hair. You ho swimming before recording this video? 😁
I like both td's the su-130pm has a lower profile so it can be the best sniper in t8 but for me i prefer the scorpion G but both are good in my opinion
I got this in a loot box or in a season pass and took your advice. Took it out with just the regular ammo and as cheap as possible. I consistently made good credits. That's what mattered. I hated playing the top tiers, but it's about padding the credit account. Oh the one I got is the Forest Spirit version.
According to tomato, the Skorpion G has a better hit% overall (>10 million battles) on all 3 servers. I prefer the Skorpion because it has a fully traversable turret which allows for quicker getaways after getting spotted for a shot.
I got a SU-130PM because of one of your past videos. It's become my favorite. Not outstanding at anything, but very good at everything. Even though the gun dispersion is crappy, I thread the needle with a lot of my shots. My camo rating is 61%. It has IKEA armor, but hits like a battleship.
I just started playing the skorp g a couple months ago. Aced it 2x in the first 20 games because I sat at the back and sniped. It is hard to do, because the tank is fun to push with.
The gun on the SU is often trolling me, despite a full sniper setup. Most of my shots do below 500 DMG as well, the skorp seems to get higher rolls. Yet, somehow I pick the SU every damn time...
Omg! I have one and get smashed every time! I don't even push up, I wait for lights and mediums to spot. The other teams spot me out before I get 3 shots off. I have camo and crew camo
Hey Claus - I have both the Skorp and SU, and while I favor the Skorp, it's based on something other than a rational choice - because I believe you're correct, and based on performance, the SU is better. No, I favor the Skorp because I hate to give in to the bias enjoyed by the Russian vehicles. So, I guess you could say mine is the more masochistic choice. But then, the same could be said for all of us choosing to play this game at all.
People complain about the match maker but it is moron play by 'individuals' who refuse to communicate, or even use basic cooperation, that loses games. All the 1 v 5 or 1 v 7 (or whatever) games that are lost because the 'many' refuse to work together. They feed themselves one at a time to the "One'" and die stupidly At lower tiers it can be understood (say Tiers I - III) but any game from tier IV upwards that is lost in the above many is just bad play. 😝 And they never seem to learn. 😵💫
I got both my 130 and scorp on sale. They both came with the cheaper gun, so I cant hit shit with either. Thats my opinion and im sticking to it, awesome gun handling my arse.
Tried both, failed in both, i have to accept i cant play anything but heavies, but i would say i preferred the Skorpion when it first came out, but just get killed in it now.
SU 130 Pm is way better IMO. Better concealment, higher alpha, easier to hide due to lower profile and Russian RNG. It's slower, but you snipe in these tanks anyway so that really doesn't make a big difference.
What's the best TD...? SU-130 PM or Skorpion...? Well you start by buying the Wargame programmer a drink and start negotiating from there... Bring a lot of Vodka and $$$ bills....
I won't change my mind that su gun handling is horrible and it makes the tank unenjoyable. Haven't touched it in a while cause of that, those notorious su moments when you miss fully aimed shots 3, 4 times in a row are excruciating. Skorp gun on the other side behaves very nicely for me and you have a fully reversible turret albeit less cammo
Negativ.....ShPTK-TVP is better. So much better cammo, and three very good grenade types. And good credit maker too..... This first battle was full with paid actors 😉😂
☕😀👍 Fyi if you want to have fun get a tier 2 tank and lets have a real smack down, all my accounts are getting a from the vault tier2! Why omg " rock em, sock em tankbots" I challenge all rivals, all teamates, all players. Tier 2 smack down! ☕👍
I won my SU130PM snow Leopard many years ago. And i must say at the beginning it was not as good as what we saw here today. Plus the scorpion G was fiering faster. What i always hated about the SU130pm was that you have no gun depression when shooting over your sides. You can also see this in this video. He had to fully turn to finally aim and hit the panther while he was driving bye. But when i played the SU130pm it also was a tank that you could win in the game. A reward tank. While you always had to pay to get a skorpion G. So in a one on one shootout with a Skorpion G I only raely won. Besides that, the scorpion was also faster and its turret turned faster too. So its on you what you may prefer. You cannot play an SH 130PM like a medium tank. You have to play it like a supporting sniper. But i think it was under the top 10 of my most played tanks. Simply because i loved the Snow Leopard skin and i was really proud that i finished the missions to win that thing.
Ordinary promotion from WOT tips !! (Haha 3-6-8000 Damage) you don't get 1/4th of what you see here in real game!!! These bastards have a modified mod for promotions to see they are still in the top ranks, what he shoots is a hit!! if a tank hits him.. then a rebound... I guarantee that you won't have it that way!! and it will be the opposite on mil. % and besides... don't buy premium or premium tanks!!! it's useless anyway, the server determines the damage,,..determines victory and defeat .. If you upload min Damage to the opponent, the server will automatically flip and give Victory/ if High damage to the opponent - it is automatically Defeat.. You have a tank of 8 levels and you are approximately at the bottom of the team or on the bottom team composition, stacked from level 10 = It's automatically a win because you have no chance to shoot down Level 10 that is: min. damage = victory.!!! If you are on the highest rungs in the lineup, e.g. team level 8 to level 6 , Automatically = high damage to the opponent and you automatically = Defeat!! Server. BLOCKS....visibility, enemy detections, opponent damage, you can just do whatever you want :D !! it's wasted money!! You actually have more losses than wins in the game!! Ask yourself another question.. how many times have you recorded what you see here? (it's easy to play if you're an admin with a good game mode!), and this thieving company gives replays like this every day ... they're just lying to you and fooling you it's a great game, waiting for you to adjust the game mode to the minimum so that you can put real money into it!! Also note that they offer only premium or 10 level tanks, where you have huge losses in the game even during premium, especially if you use gold-i (premium cartridges)!!! , for 1 battle minus up to 8-20,000 cash... if not more... wt.
hello i choose to buy scorpion g for that "extra pen" what i get in return +1 or +2 matchmake and a few months now shots go all over the place tha scorpion g video is the todays matches that su-130pm is nowhere near reality probably old player in new account with the noob matchmake
I bought the skorp g ages ago, never missed. Now, I'm lucky to hit a barn regardless of how much I aim.
The su, for me, is so much more accurate, hits harder and better camo.
It also has the magical area between turret that alot of shells go thru.
I play my Skorp G now and again, I think conspiracies around reduced accuracy is a load of BS, hits about the same as it always has, still a very good tank. That said I have always preferred the SU.
Well, the SU will be more accurate until WG decides to tweak the Russian Number Generator.
Clause, I prefer these types of vids where you comment on the game. You are pretty darn knowledgeable so it's helpful to here your take on the play.
WG can take their premium tanks and try giving themselves a colo-rectal massage.
Well said
I'll have you know that I have exactly the same win rate with the Skorpion as with the Su-130, Claus. I don't have either.
Nice one !!
Looking good Claus. Who’s your stylist… lol
The 130pm trolls you a bit more than the Skorpion. It's a matter of taste if you want the extra alpha and miss a bit more or not.
su have better ammo and camo too :)
I have the Forest Spirit version of the Su-130PM. I love it!
Could you please feature a JP II game? I haven't seen one in ages. It's on my bucket list along with Panther II and I
Damn, now I have to go bring out my JP II for a spin. Thanks for the reminder.
@@mosayyeed it was my favourite tier 8 TD back in the day when I was playing WoTB
@TandemSix For me it is my first German TD. I got it from the Collector's store after I researched the Tier VIII GW Tiger P. It convinced me to start German TDs and I'mcurrentlyat the Tier IX waffentrager. I must say, the games with the stock and second game sucks, but after getting the 12.8cm oh boy. I got 5 kills in my first game with that gun.
@mosayyeed the German TD's are really good. But, as far as I am concerned, JP II is the best tier-for-tier turetless TD. It's reasonably fast, nuclear missile cannon, nearly bulletproof super-structure, good rammer, high DPM, accurate, hits hard, reloads fast. I took that in tournaments with my mates. I was their TD guy
Never lucky with the Skorpion and I dont have the SU!
Same here, may get the SU, may not. My gripe about the Skorp G is the turret is so damn slow turning.
The T95 needs to go to Battle Hits to see why he bounced the Scorpion lol
The upper plate on the SU-130 PM gets some crazy bounces.
Skorpion got its reputation as an OP tank because it made the Rhm Borsig nearly obsolete when it came out all those years ago. Of course more powerful premiums have come out since, just like the Defender is crap now too.
Great video as always Claus❤ Don't forget the Sound My walls are trembling when I fire this one.
Gg to both tankers. Amazing game 1. I have 2 moe on skorp and one on su. SU is better but I play better in Skorp for some reason. Nice hair. You ho swimming before recording this video? 😁
I like both td's the su-130pm has a lower profile so it can be the best sniper in t8 but for me i prefer the scorpion G but both are good in my opinion
Claus can we have a Canada day video with the RAM2, Churchill and Centurion?.
I got this in a loot box or in a season pass and took your advice. Took it out with just the regular ammo and as cheap as possible. I consistently made good credits. That's what mattered. I hated playing the top tiers, but it's about padding the credit account. Oh the one I got is the Forest Spirit version.
According to tomato, the Skorpion G has a better hit% overall (>10 million battles) on all 3 servers. I prefer the Skorpion because it has a fully traversable turret which allows for quicker getaways after getting spotted for a shot.
have a nice day all of u
I got a SU-130PM because of one of your past videos. It's become my favorite. Not outstanding at anything, but very good at everything. Even though the gun dispersion is crappy, I thread the needle with a lot of my shots. My camo rating is 61%. It has IKEA armor, but hits like a battleship.
IKEA armor :)))))))))))))))
@@MskWind I'd have said cardboard, but the box IKEA comes in gives better protection.
@@kimberlainodriscoll4781 Not the boxes my IKEA stuff gets delivered in!
I just started playing the skorp g a couple months ago. Aced it 2x in the first 20 games because I sat at the back and sniped. It is hard to do, because the tank is fun to push with.
I am envious of the SU-140PM player. I would also like to be surrounded by Teedees. 😂😉
He gave us a “master class” in the Stb-1
I find the gun handling of this lives up to the bad stats.
The gun on the SU is often trolling me, despite a full sniper setup. Most of my shots do below 500 DMG as well, the skorp seems to get higher rolls.
Yet, somehow I pick the SU every damn time...
Notice when the team goes ahead, having more hit points, the Target Outline Suddenly Starts Working Again.
Omg! I have one and get smashed every time! I don't even push up, I wait for lights and mediums to spot. The other teams spot me out before I get 3 shots off. I have camo and crew camo
SU-130PM all day long! I have a Skorp but can't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside.
(In a whiny voice) " have a higher win rate in my Skorpion G..." BOOM! Skorp is quiet now, you can continue Claus.
Hey Claus - I have both the Skorp and SU, and while I favor the Skorp, it's based on something other than a rational choice - because I believe you're correct, and based on performance, the SU is better. No, I favor the Skorp because I hate to give in to the bias enjoyed by the Russian vehicles. So, I guess you could say mine is the more masochistic choice. But then, the same could be said for all of us choosing to play this game at all.
I got a crate with a 130 pm no idea.. 😊 I keep getting (M)s.. The 130 gun meets the meta..
Which one ? the last premium tank usually.
People complain about the match maker but it is moron play by 'individuals' who refuse to communicate, or even use basic cooperation, that loses games. All the 1 v 5 or 1 v 7 (or whatever) games that are lost because the 'many' refuse to work together. They feed themselves one at a time to the "One'" and die stupidly
At lower tiers it can be understood (say Tiers I - III) but any game from tier IV upwards that is lost in the above many is just bad play. 😝 And they never seem to learn. 😵💫
I got both my 130 and scorp on sale. They both came with the cheaper gun, so I cant hit shit with either. Thats my opinion and im sticking to it, awesome gun handling my arse.
9:13 first successful edit in like 10 "ill edit this out later" moments
It’s the t55 for me
"Wir sitzen fest" - English "We are stuck" 😉😁
I would like to play the su130...
Hey, that first game didn't end with the featured player dying. Oops, spoke too soon. Thanks Claus.
Played the Skorpion G , got 3 city maps . Never played with it again.
Skorpion, it just goes bloop into the ground
No doubt, I prefer the SU-130. I consistently play better with it than with the Skorpion.
Tried both, failed in both, i have to accept i cant play anything but heavies, but i would say i preferred the Skorpion when it first came out, but just get killed in it now.
I love both but don’t buy premium anymore to make money I just use the era 3 that I get off of the ps5 season pass
11:03
That was a (blind) shot close to his rear left.
Who's shot was that?
Enemy closing from behind?!
I have both and I’m bored, what should I play next? TD with a high damage per shot.
Arty party when?
SU is better in any way than Skorpion G. Both are my most played tanks, because I enjoy bushing 😉 Push, push, in ze bush 😱
Please play these paper tds , i love it my cobra.😂😂😂
SU 130 Pm is way better IMO. Better concealment, higher alpha, easier to hide due to lower profile and Russian RNG. It's slower, but you snipe in these tanks anyway so that really doesn't make a big difference.
My SU bounces 50% of the shots
SU-130PM makes credits all the time. Best tank ever.
I don't have either tank. Prefer to fight the Scorpion over the SU.
Claus is right. The accuracy of the Skorp G is awful. Once i shot an enemy but the bullet kills Nook in my daughters animal crossing game.
Aton of credit but he would have stayed alive if he could have heard you tell him about that high place at the end of the valley.
Claus I agree with😂
AY UP CLAUS
I think the Scorpion G is better than the 130. I think the Scorpion is better all around.
maybe 5 years ago
What's the best TD...? SU-130 PM or Skorpion...?
Well you start by buying the Wargame programmer a drink and start negotiating from there... Bring a lot of Vodka and $$$ bills....
Happy algorithm comment they're totally right being wrong
The time machine..130 pm.
I can't hit squat with Skorp G
DEFINITELY SU 130 P.M. !!!
The "Russian Bias" posterboy.
i find the accuracy troll
AH Claus, you still enjoy the game .....
130PM
I have a 200% win rate in both. Easy!
I won't change my mind that su gun handling is horrible and it makes the tank unenjoyable. Haven't touched it in a while cause of that, those notorious su moments when you miss fully aimed shots 3, 4 times in a row are excruciating. Skorp gun on the other side behaves very nicely for me and you have a fully reversible turret albeit less cammo
time for a hair cut.
SU 130PM is the king ;-)
The best premiumi the game,,,
So when is the Russian turreted line coming out with 2 guns and impenetrable armor doing 900+ dmg per shot 300+ pen lol
Hate Scorpion, SU is better for me. But did not play for months now, so..... 😊
who's back did the su player have to rub to get that RNG.. my Su shoots, 5 m in front of the tank dirt shot...
The 130PM is such crap - Skorp is miles better!
...and the Churchill Gamecarrier is better than both...
Woohoo, WoT rocks still
yeap...su is way better than g....actualy,i would rate g third,after the spthk
Box of Chocolates
both lol
Negativ.....ShPTK-TVP is better.
So much better cammo, and three very good grenade types.
And good credit maker too.....
This first battle was full with paid actors 😉😂
☕😀👍
Fyi if you want to have fun get a tier 2 tank and lets have a real smack down, all my accounts are getting a from the vault tier2!
Why omg " rock em, sock em tankbots"
I challenge all rivals, all teamates, all players.
Tier 2 smack down!
☕👍
Claus FUN is never wrong sir
I need a scorpion g...
😂
🙃
I won my SU130PM snow Leopard many years ago. And i must say at the beginning it was not as good as what we saw here today. Plus the scorpion G was fiering faster. What i always hated about the SU130pm was that you have no gun depression when shooting over your sides. You can also see this in this video. He had to fully turn to finally aim and hit the panther while he was driving bye. But when i played the SU130pm it also was a tank that you could win in the game. A reward tank. While you always had to pay to get a skorpion G. So in a one on one shootout with a Skorpion G I only raely won. Besides that, the scorpion was also faster and its turret turned faster too.
So its on you what you may prefer. You cannot play an SH 130PM like a medium tank. You have to play it like a supporting sniper. But i think it was under the top 10 of my most played tanks. Simply because i loved the Snow Leopard skin and i was really proud that i finished the missions to win that thing.
Firsties!
I guess not.
8:40 437 low roll, no need more proof of WG shameless way of doing things...
EVERYBODY KNOWS FRENCH IS BEST. WHERE IS FRENCH TD????
No one notice at 12min in first game 800 hp whent missing from enemy team????? Claus???
Ordinary promotion from WOT tips !! (Haha 3-6-8000 Damage) you don't get 1/4th of what you see here in real game!!! These bastards have a modified mod for promotions to see they are still in the top ranks, what he shoots is a hit!! if a tank hits him.. then a rebound... I guarantee that you won't have it that way!! and it will be the opposite on mil. % and besides... don't buy premium or premium tanks!!! it's useless anyway, the server determines the damage,,..determines victory and defeat .. If you upload min Damage to the opponent, the server will automatically flip and give Victory/ if High damage to the opponent - it is automatically Defeat.. You have a tank of 8 levels and you are approximately at the bottom of the team or on the bottom team composition, stacked from level 10 = It's automatically a win because you have no chance to shoot down Level 10 that is: min. damage = victory.!!! If you are on the highest rungs in the lineup, e.g. team level 8 to level 6 , Automatically = high damage to the opponent and you automatically = Defeat!! Server. BLOCKS....visibility, enemy detections, opponent damage, you can just do whatever you want :D !! it's wasted money!! You actually have more losses than wins in the game!! Ask yourself another question.. how many times have you recorded what you see here? (it's easy to play if you're an admin with a good game mode!), and this thieving company gives replays like this every day ... they're just lying to you and fooling you it's a great game, waiting for you to adjust the game mode to the minimum so that you can put real money into it!! Also note that they offer only premium or 10 level tanks, where you have huge losses in the game even during premium, especially if you use gold-i (premium cartridges)!!! , for 1 battle minus up to 8-20,000 cash... if not more... wt.
Well done Claus, using a gamer using a tank with 3 marks of excellence to prove it is the best. How about someone using the same tank with no marks ?
ofc russian tank is better😂
hello i choose to buy scorpion g for that "extra pen" what i get in return +1 or +2 matchmake and a few months now shots go all over the place tha scorpion g video is the todays matches that su-130pm is nowhere near reality probably old player in new account with the noob matchmake
Well done, both games....gg's