Dr. Subhash Kak: Vedanta, Computer Science, AI, Yoga, Consciousness | Abhijit Chavda Podcast 9
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Dr. Subhash Kak is an Indian-American computer scientist, theoretical physicist, historian, Indologist, Vedic scholar, linguist, philosopher, and poet. He is Regents Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Oklahoma State University in Stillwater.
Dr. Kak's scientific research has spanned the fields of information theory, cryptography, neural networks, quantum information, and theoretical physics.
He is one of the pioneers of quantum learning. He coined the term "quantum neural computing" which is a theory of consciousness that is partly classical and partly quantum.
He has authored and co-authored at least 20 books on a variety of topics.
In 2019, Dr. Kak was awarded the Padma Shri, India's 4th highest civilian award, for his immense contributions in multiple areas of expertise.
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00:00 Intro to Dr. Kak
02:15 Why did you (Dr.Kak) choose computer science? What was the journey to becoming a computer scientist?
08:15 What is computer science and what do computer scientists do?
17:18 Today’s computer architecture is based on two valued logic. How do we make the shift to three valued logic?
22:21 Do we have a definition of consciousness from the view of pure science?
30:40 Could you elaborate on the architecture of mind(the koshas)?
39:20 Why do Buddhists deny the Mahaparinirvana Sutra (Buddha’s dying message, tying Sanatana Dharma philosophy to Buddhism)?
43:52 What is Panpsychism? Is it in sync with the Vendantic view?
54:57 We communicate mostly in English, which is a superficial crude language compared to Sanskrit. Is it one of the reasons we are deracinated, lost touch with our civilizational language?
1:07:20 What is Atma? What is the relationship of individual atma and universal consciousness?
1:13:59 Do animals have consciousness according to Vendanta?
1:23:07 Today’s society is Rakshasic in various parts of the world. Isn’t it?
1:30:19 India’s sciences are being appropriated, like Yoga is being transmuted by the West into various forms. Shouldnt India create institutions to protect its heritage?
1:38:18 Yoga is lived Sanatana Dharma. There are various forms like Raja Yoga, Karma Yoga, Bhakthi Yoga, which one is the best?
1:41:59 The Western world holds its thoughts and philosophies as superior, do you believe that is the case?
1:47:30 There is so much we don’t know, 96% of the Universe is dark matter, 95% of the DNA is not understood, how can Indian philosophy unravel this mystery?
1:58:55 What kind of person is a good interlocutor of Indian culture?
02:08:44 Why do you think the population will go down?
02:14:40 Are you hopeful for the future of humanity?
02:17:55 Where does the law of Karma come into all of this?
02:20:05 How do you see yourself as Shiva?
02:21:50 How does one find the right path and Guru?
02:27:09 Who has influenced you the most, as a Guru?
02:29:53 Which thinkers and writers have influenced you the most?
02:34:07 Which interpretation of Quantum Mechanics makes most sense to you?
Interesting nuggets:
09:34 Panini’s Sanskrit is like a computer program
11:54 Three valued logic (like from India’s various ancient sciences) is superior to binary.
16:09 Kanaaga Rishi’s Vaisheshika sutra describing Quantum Mechanics
28:09 One Consciousness is Shiva
29:19 Freud’s interpretation of dreams
29:47 Upanishad’s sophisticated understanding of Consciousness
34:55 Akaalik dhamma of Buddhism is same as Sanatana Dharma (the eternal dharma)
35:28 Neelakanta Dharini Mantra and meaning. Avalokiteshwara praying to Neelakanta(Shiva)
37:54 Schroedinger’s Vedanta connection
39:00 Classical expression of reality, marxism.
40:00 India’s intellectual life is smashed
42:32 The Dhvani Theory
48:40 Organized Hinduism is in shambles
59:15 What is the deeper meaning of Vedic Rituals?
1:08:35 Why is Sanatana Dharma revolutionary?
1:18:00 How does Indian Pauranic sociology understand the mind vis a vis Devas, Asuras, Rakshasas
1:25:25 What is the meaning of Shiva’s five faces?
1:30:01 How is India saved by mothers and grandmothers?
1:32:06 What is Yoga?
1:41:21 Why is the ethical foundation fundamental?
1:41:31 Racism in European thought, where have so many European scholars gone wrong?
1:49:36 Dr. George Sudarshan’s paper on drishti shrishti vaad (how the observer can influence an outcome)
1:50:36 Why is the Yoga Vashista the greatest book ever written?
02:05:02 Jatis were fluid
02:07:31 In future degrees won’t matter, skill will matter.
02:08:30 World population projected to go down
02:17:46 What is Jivatma and how does it relate to Paramatma?
Thank you very much, greatly appreciated!
Thank you Ma'am.
this was what i need thanks for giving us ur time mam and writing down the timestamps
Was waiting for this
A bow to you!
I found Hinduism to be the most perfectly satisfying religion in the world. #SwamiVivekananda
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 Religion in India means Realization #Swami Vivekananda.
@@darwinhubc7481 way of life hai religion nahi
Subhash Kak is a gem of Bharat, shining in the West. More like him can be found in from where he originates.
Without vedantic background, even Quantum Mechanics is unconscious machine.
I love his Advaita Vedanta talks. So so so very happy.
There are many institutions. U have to find them. Many spiritual institutions teaching Gyana, Bhakti, Hatha, and Karma Yoga and also all of them together. You have to seek and you shall find.
Yoga spiritualises the body, purifies the entire constitution of the being to receive that spiritual truth. Yoga means Union. All form of Yog means Union of oneself with oneself.
Even Harvard has Vedanta classes, Buddhism classes, etc.
Indian youth needs to be interested in it rather than partying, doing other nonsense and wasting life.
But every life is an opportunity, every lifetime is an opportunity to near or come close to become one to our own self. Every life missed is a missed opportunity. So uplift the consciousness by becoming aware.
Katha Upanishad, please read it. Amazing, mind-blowing it is. U shall see how that little boy Nachiketa, at that very little age, completely blew the mind of Yama, even Yama had to bow down to him and praise him and gave him the ultimate Truth and he self realised and he also blessed him with a complete sets of very highest level of Yagya which can only be done if those sets of conditions are met. Nachiketa chose ultimate truth even when Yama offered him world's all kinds of glory any individual can ever ask or desire for. But Nachiketa strongly rejected all his great offers, watching his persistence, Yama gave him that divine wisdom.
Acharya Prashant is one of the finest teacher of Advaita (Non Duality) we have in India.
@@anmolmadaan562 True.
@chakraborty. For that need to have Shraddha. How many Hindus have that today?
Absolutely the more we explore sanatana dharma more we will understand how scientific and spiritual our culture is🙏🙏
@@roguegamer2020 the deeper we shall go, the wonders of Sanatan shall unfold and mesmerize us being our mind can ever fathom. But the choice needs to be made, that we ll study our Sanatan, slowly and gradually, taking out time, giving ourselves a target of so many months or years and so on.
For the first time in my life I watched a 2:40:00 hr long video . The knowledge I gained from the podcast is tremendous and Dr Kak is like an ocean full of wisdom , I recommend you all to watch the full podcast. Trust me this podcast is worth your time 🙏🏾
The beauty of the stream is as a sanatani I am in agreement with each topic you are elaborating.
Universe is implanting information in our collective consciousness.
Absolutely enlightening. From inner Shiva to AI to quantum-veda connections. To shishya seeking guru and the other way around. Mind blown and opened up to so many possibilities. Big fan Abhijit Chavda sir and Dr Subhash Kak sir.
These words of wisdom must be spread !
This is gonna be epic..let's go!!
Sir that was too much knowledge in an hour, it's like every time I hear Subhash ji another dimension is unlocked for me 🥲🙏❤️
Subhash Kak sir has so much of knowledge that a normal person has to wait two life to achieve that much knowledge 🤩🤩🙏🙏
Absolutely amazing 🥰🤩
We Certainly need more scientists on your show!!
Indeed abhijit sir doing great.. Job. Mainstream lacks everything. This podcast has become bcoz mainstream doesn't cater to our questions..
This is gonna be amazing..two personalities with such a level of intelligence on one platform 🙏🏻
Absolutely epic. 🤩 Waiting eagerly for this.
Edit: Didn't want this to end.
The beginning had me feeling like another session full of bouncers. But then, something clicked and I got so immersed in listening that I didn't even realise that 2 hours are up! So much to be proud of as an Indian! Thank you Abhijit Sir and Subhash Sir! It was enlightening!
Shivoham!
Thankyou Abhi sirji for inviting KaK sir, he is the most learned person of our scriptures as far as I know 🤩🙏
Two legends together🔥🔥🔥
Amazing podcast!
Thankyou so much sir for asking every possible question, connecting the dots between vedic/yogic science & material science, today's world needs humans like Dr. Subhash Kak to demystify all myths about ancient science being unscientific, & also to eradicate us indians from feeling of self loathing about us being inferior to west, just hope he keeps propagating the knowledge, keeps inspiring the coming youth, bowing down to both of you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 possibly one of greatest talks i've heard in my life, Thankyou so much, & very special thanks to Abhijit sir for inviting such great personalities on channel🙏🙏🙏
One of the most wonderful podcast I have ever heard. Abhijit sir u are a gem to new generation 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
What an Amazing Podcast !!
You are doing such a amazing work of spreading knowledge specially on Indian culture. I hopes that your work will reach to more people specially to Youth of India.
Sometimes it hurts to see the degradation of our ancient heritage and culture. But don't worry, one day we will bring it back✊✊✌️
Dr. Kak is 76 years old at that age his enthusiasm is wonderful love to listen to him. Amazing
every hindu sanatani must understand vedanta and preserve this knowledge. m also learning nd trust me it will blow ur mind with deep wisdom. vedanta is all about living ur life not promising u to take heaven. i will definitely listen this podcasy
This discussion is my favourite till date on this channel! Thanks for enlightening us!
Wow so deep conversation
It will take atleast 2-3 watch to grasp it
Amazing podcast, Abhi sir. Watched it completely. regarding Indian Billionaires spending at Harvard and not in India...Mr. Anand Mahindra would be the first person to contact to. I believe (hope) it is possible for you, sir. You are a great son of Maa Bhaarti
Can't wait for this one
अभिजीत गुरु जी इस विडियो के लिए ढेर सारा धन्यवाद 🙏🙏❤️❤️
It means to a lot to me 🙏
"It is e, not three" - Dr. Subhash Kak, his gift to the world.. A new dimensional perspective to reality
Watch this guys...its totally worth your time!!! Woww woww wowww...im out of words!!! Put it to 1.25x and watch it!! This is one of the best conversations I've ever seen!! Abhijit sir you are doing a great job sir!! Please keep doing this...can't thank you enough sir!!! This is fantastic!!! Trust me people..watch this its too good!!!
How many of you guys noticed that in Abhijit sir's videos "likes" are always more than the "views"...so cool 😎
Yes
I think because if press live chat then your presence counts in watching live .. ?
If you watching on CZcams and press the like button then it represents video likes ?
Could be wrong
No
I'd love that to be but unfortunately, that's not the case... but let us spread the awareness of importance of 'liking' on CZcams
We are happy to attend Dr. Subhash Kak's presence at the upcoming event at IIT Mandi. He is definitely someone to listen to. Thanks Abhijit Chavda sir for this amazing podcast
Awesome😊 thank you ,🙏 better than any university 🙏
Listening to Subhash sir is like listening to an ancient philosopher and an MIT professor combined, loved this talk, thanks Abhijit sir.
what a great podcast
Brilliant start with the introduction of Dr Subhash Kak !
I feel like I am listening " Lex fridman Poadcast" 👍.. just loving your podcasts.. All the very Best ✌️🤘
Love the depth of knowledge and the intuitive explanations of such complex topics. Perfect science and spirituality mix 😊
Bless you for doing this with Kak Saheb introducing his knowledge and soulful generosity to be illuminated with. Am grateful in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.
Wow! Looking forward to this interview.
Dr. Kak has expertise in as many number of field whose sum total are the number of individual in my family.
It would be great to see a discussion between Prof. Subhash Kak Jee and Premanand Jee Maharaj on Indian spirituality topics.
One of my favourite guest Shri.kak ji.It is going to be an amazing podcast.😍
Whhhhhat an amaaaazing podcast, glued to headphones for 2 hours.
Gita is beautiful and this conversation is also as amazing as gita , thanku sir
This is something incredible.. I would ❤ listen to it again and again..
Can’t wait …This is gonna be so cool!
What a pleasure listening to you gayani purus, worth the time, lot of learning and positive thoughts
Thankyou Sir for making us part of such incredible conversations
I wish this is watched by many.
One of the best podcasts till date, across YT.
I am super excited by this interview, long time follower of Dr. Kak and Abhijitji, as always, is terrific about getting a full 360 on any subject he tackles be it Indian History, World History, Geopolitics or the Western biases about Sanatana Dharma and India's society.
2 favorite personalities together ❤
That's the energy of sanatani subhash ji he do regular podcast on many channel
With smile thats the thing he have achieved..... The eternal shanti
Looking forward to this week's podcasts ☺️
Please Please sir
Now Next Bring Dr CK Raju.
So fascinating session sir!
Thank you very much 🙏
Sir please invite Rajiv mishra sir for your next podcast 🙏
Incredible episode...
Thank you, so much for doing this...🙏🙏🙏
Pranams to both of you. Thank you so much for such a great podcast.
Today I learned alot about my religion Buddhism. Thanks Abhijit sir for calling Dr. Kak on your poadcast. 😍😍
Sandeep Maheshwari also talks about Vedant. It would be a great conversation if Abhijit sir and Sandeep sir can have a chat on the topic Vedant.
Eagerly waiting for this!!!
Excited!!!!!
I will check out this podcast only to listen what he has to say about consciousness
Bhaiya ji, please release in part1,2 and 3. You are making it "easy" for us, but also make it "interesting" too. I love listening to you as you challenge our minds and thinking patterns. But it's a long long journey please distribute that in small steps (1 hour video).
This kind of conversation would inspire a whole lot of next generation knowledge seekers to explore various dimensions or facets of consciousness by studying our own ancient research works/scriptures. Thank you 🙏
Yaay the most awaited one
I was in India (Gurugram/Delhi) recently, Did not have the good fortune to watch this video, otherwise I could have tried to meet these guys.
Just discovered this channel,very cool Abhijit! ❤️🇨🇦
Sooooooo wonderful abhijit sir mujhe nhi pta tha ki india me aise log bhi hain thanks a lot
Very enlightening, so fortunate to have followed Abhijit Sir, request you to bring such luminaries to the podcast, more often for enlightening us. 🙏 ❤❤🚩🚩🚩❤
Note my words Guys This is going to be big and all the boies and girls taking interest are going to proud of this
plz make small clips from these kind of podcast it will be very helpful and as always amazing and knowledgeable podcast .
00:00:00 About Dr. Subhash Kak.
00:00:57 Welcoming Dr. Kak.
00:02:22 (1) Why did Dr. Kak decide to become a Computer Scientist?
00:08:00 (2) What is Computer Science (CS) and what do computer scientists do?
_(Also - Pāṇini. 3-valued logic superior to Binary logic. Trayee-Vidya = Veda. Genetic code is e-dimensional. Maharshi Kanada / Vaiśeṣika Sūtra. Sāmānya/Viśeṣa/Samavāya.)_
00:17:17 (3) What is the state of the 3-valued logic as of today?
_(Also - Quantum mechanical reality, Mundaka Upanishad - 'Para' & 'Apara' vidya, Antahkarana)_
00:22:18 (4) Do we have a definition of consciousness?
_(Also - DARPA/SRI asks 'Will computers become conscious?'. Vigyanvadi vs Vedanta. Utpal Dev & Abhinavagupta in 8th to 10th century. Freud's interpretation of dream)_
00:30:37 (5) Elaborate on Dr. Kak's paper on the components of the self?
_(Annamaya Kosha > Pranamaya Kosha > Manomaya Kosha > Vigyaanamaya Kosha > Anandamaya kosha >> Atman, Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra)_
_(Also - Hinduism and Buddhism being identical. Akālika dharma ~ Sanatana dharma. Sanskrit chant in Buddhist temples called 'The Nīlakaṇṭha Dhāraṇī'. Avalokiteśvara worshipping Shiva. Erwin Schrodinger being a vedantic.)_
00:39:18 (6) Why do even east-asian Buddhist scholars tend to disregard the last discourse of the Buddha (i.e. Mahāparinirvāṇa Sūtra)?
_(Academia is all about of control.)_
_(Also - Dhvani theory by Ānandavardhana and Abhinavagupta.)_
00:43:52 (7) How does the concept of 'Panpsychism' compare with the Vedantic view?
_(Lack of interlocutors. No agency for vedantic scholars left today. Organised Hinduism is in shambles.)_
_(Also - No more greats like Bose, Ramanujan. Another answer to the previous question. Iranian languages can be viewed as a *Prakrit*, admitting this would collapse the Indo-European language family hypothesis.)_
00:54:57 (8) Today the English language is the foundation - 'for learning', 'for communicating ideas' - do you see that as a problem?
_(The Shatapatha Brahmana. A system of layered understanding. The 'vedi' of rituals were a representation of the cosmos. Indian universities do not teach Hinduism.)_
01:00:45 (9) What is the connection between my consciousness and the consciousness of the another person and is it same as that of the consciousness of the universe?
_(Book 'The Gods Within'. Mundaka Upanishad also says the Vedas are Apara. "If he knows not, that he knows not, then he is a fool; shun him.")_
01:07:18 (10) What is the relationship between of the Atma (of each person) and the universal consciousness?
_(The word 'soul' is a western concept. Shivoham and Swo-Hum ~ "I am He.")_
_(Also - Matsya Nyaya: 'Big fish devouring the smaller fish.')_
01:13:46 (11) Do animals also have consciousness according to Vedanta? Are there different levels of consciousness?
_(Also - Daivik, Asurik, Rakshasik societies. Brihad-Aranyaka Upanishad and the story of 'Da..Da..Da'.)_
01:23:05 (12) Is today's society more and more rakshasik?
_(Also - Tapas. Agni. 5 faces of Shiva - Sadyojata, Vamadevaya, Bhairava/Rudra, Tatpurusha, Isana.)_
01:27:07 (13) Does Shivoham mean that we have all 5 faces of Shiva?
_(Also - Kathopanishad/Katha-Upanishad story of Nachiketa. Yama and Maha-Kaal as the greatest teachers. *If India has been saved, it has been saved by our Mothers and Grandmothers.*)_
01:30:15 (14) Is it time for India to build institutions to prevent knowledge from dying out or being appropriated? (About Yoga, Kung-Fu.)
_(*Government shouldn't do it, people will come forward.*)_
_(Also - Yoga Sutra. Bhagavad-Gita is only about Yoga and the essence of all Upanishads. Yoga is lived Sanatana Dharma. Atma vidya is Veda.)_
01:38:18 (15) Of the different types of yoga (e.g. Raja Yoga, Karma Yoga, Bhakti Yoga.), which one is the best?
_(Yama, Niyama is fundamental. Nobody should believe that he/she is superior to another.)_
01:41:57 (16) Does the Western society think their ways are superior and does that colour their actions?
_(Aristotle and materialism. Canadian truckers. Crisis in western medicine, psychology, physics etc. Last such crisis in the 1800s.)_
01:47:24 (17) How can Indian philosophical traditions and wisdom help unravel the modern mysteries (e.g. DNA, Dark Matter etc.)?
_(Drishti-Srishti-Vada. Quantum Zeno Effect by Dr. E.C. George Sudarshan. Yoga Vasistha - the deepest discussion of Vedanta through stories. _*_"Indian Shiksha, discourages talking down to a student, and encourages teaching indirectly, through dhvani, 64 kalas etc."_*_ - This is why women were instrumental in preserving Indian wisdom.)_
01:54:00 (18) Why do wealthy Indians donate money to western institutions when they could be advancing Indian (educational) institutions?
01:58:43 (19) What does Dr. Kak mean by interlocutors?
_(Mahāvākya अहम् ब्रह्मास्मि - was meant to empower humans (atma viswas) and not promote arrogance. Give atma viswas to every child around the world.)_
02:03:06 (20) Fight false narratives about Hinduism using the truth!
_(Raja Bhoj Parmar - history's greatest scholar king. Brahmins of the Champa empire called the Balamon. *Jati was always fluid.*)_
02:06:58 (21) World is waking up to Marxist brain washing in the educational institutions! Thoughts?
02:08:43 (22) Why does Dr. Kak think the population will go down?
02:10:43 (23) Is AI a bad thing (in the long run) for humanity?
_(Also - Kali Yuga to Satya Yuga. When people are asleep as India has been for a long time now, that is _*_Kali Yuga*, when people wake up that is *Dvapara Yuga*, when they stand it is *Treta Yuga_*_ and when they walk it is *Satya Yuga*. Aitareya Brahmana - 'Charaiveti, charaiveti!')_
02:14:40 (24) Are you hopeful for the future of humanity?
_(Also - Kaivalya state from Yoga Sutra by Patanjali. Jeevatma and Paramatma.)_
02:17:54 (25) Where does the Law of Karma fit?
_(Pashu attains moksha to become Pashupati/Shiva. Until moksha everything is a sequence of Karma. Law of Karma exists for that aspect of us which is Pashu. Moksha is _*_not_*_ when you die, but happens in this life itself.)_
02:20:04 (26) How do you truly see yourself as Shiva? (One can always pretend to see.)
_(Sadhana. Siddhi.)_
02:21:50 (27) How does one find the right guru? How does one determine the right path of Yoga that is meant for them?
_(Rig Veda says the greatest guru is within you. Dwa-Suparna. Yatra. _*_Humility._*_ Kena Upanishad. Word 'Sikh' comes from 'Shishya'.)_
02:27:01 (28) Who are the Gurus of Dr. Kak?
02:29:49 (29) Who are the writers/thinkers who have influenced you?
_(Also - Art is synthesis.)_
02:33:57 Final question - What interpretation of quantum mechanics makes most sense to you?
02:40:22 Thanks and end of conversation.
बहुत सुन्दर ज्ञान वर्रधक वीडियो है। हमरी, पुरातन संस्कृति व परंपरा महान है। इसका कोई सानी नहीं है। 🎉। बहुत बहुत शुभकामनाएं। ❤
We need more people like Dr. Kak.
Beautiful episode, so much knowledge thank you for sharing
Where is ramalakshmi ??? I thought I can watch specific topic directly
Excellent podcast 😁🖤
Truly amazing experience.
The legend is back 🔥🙏
Amazing conversation Abhijit...thanks for doing this podcast...
बहुत ही सुंदर ज्ञान चर्चा है। 🎉❤ हमारी परंपरा महान है, संस्कृति, अद्भुत है। बहुत बहुत शुभकामनाएं। ❤🎉
Very knowledgeable.
very Overwhelming Podcast
WOW
Wo..wo..one of my favourite topic. 🙏
I had watched Sadguru talked about this consciousness .. now I'm recalling that in this discussion
Please invite (Dr.Ck Raju)
Intelligent question from my guru and wonderful answers from a human AI
Wow, this is going to be a good one!
Awesome session
I was waiting for these topics 🤩😍😍😍
This was the best Podcast I ever heard
Many topics that explained here are really unimaginable. I never heard about them.
So it was really informative video .
Yup let’s go!!!
Waiting for long time. Let's go 🥳
Much awaited
Brilliant conversation; two great minds.
Tragically, they seem to be unaware of dvaita philosophy which makes more sense than advaita.
I beseech Abhijitji to read Satyarth Prakash by Dayanand Sarasvati to obtain an alternative viewpoint to the question of ‘inner soul’
Have been wating it for weeks sir , thanks a lot sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏