What Does Red Hat Want From Linux!!

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  • čas přidán 29. 08. 2023
  • Recently there was a Red Hat talk at Flock 2023 and it's quite enlightening in regards to the recent Red Hat Enterprise Linux source code drama
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Komentáře • 263

  • @arieloq
    @arieloq  +151

    Just remembering an generous enterprise that once used to follow the "Not be evil" premise... and all we know what happened next...

  • @BAD_CONSUMER

    i hate it when corpos say something like "confuses customers" , as if they know what their customers think

  • @ToumalRakesh

    RedHat does not get to simply decide they don't like some terms of the GPL v2 or v3 license anymore. They accepted this going in on day one. This is not a matter of agency or direction or whatnot.

  • @max-mr5xf

    I see quite some companies replacing RHEL and Ubuntu with Debian. Properly done that isn’t the slightest problem.

  • @iotku
    @iotku  +141

    The whole "Copying" part of the talk just seemed incoherent as a Hollywood-style piracy argument. It's OPEN-source software we're dealing with, much of which under the GPL, which explicitly is designed to be copied for the greater good of humanity so a large corporation like IBM can't just hoard all of its changes to itself for a market advantage while disadvantaging everyone else.

  • @Ruzgfpegk

    I've received a few emails from Red Hat recently, about "X reasons why you should move from CentOS to Red Hat Enterprise Linux".

  • @TiagoJoaoSilva

    Rocky sponsoring side-by-side with RedHat must've been embarrassing for all sides

  • @chriswillis4960

    Red Hat seems to have missed the mark on what REHL, itself is. Maybe this is due to IBM, but REHL is supposed to be a stable Linux Distribution in which you are paying not for the Distribution but rather to be supported if anything goes wrong, part of the Linux license the GPL is that the source code must be provided. It does also mean that yes, another group or individual can take that code and redistribute it without the support contract. This has never been a bad thing and I'm not entirely sure why not they are trying to make it one, many Distros based off Red Hat have existed over the years, and this wasnt a problem until recently. Most companies and corporations deploying RHEL are doing so with the intent to be able to get the support needed when something goes wrong, in most cases so they dont have to employ people just to fix issues and instead can pay a fee to ensure they have someone on call to solve their issues, in this case, the company that develops it themselves so they know they are going to get good full fledged support.

  • @voidmain7902

    From the answer to the "IBM closed source" question: It sounds like RedHat is going towards the Valve direction. Essentially: packaging the components in their own (maybe one day even closed source) flavor, but be sure to pay back to the upstream who provided the components. He did acknowledge that things are changing to account for market changes to make RedHat stay afloat.

  • @Kris-od3sj

    The Q&A question about IBM and closed source reminds me a lot of a guy that asked a Microsoft employee shilling WSL on an Ubuntu conference if they're also going to support Wine

  • @delphibit

    Ehi brodie you should perform at the end of the video, sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root / in a Rhel/Fedora/Centos distro instead of using Ubuntu.

  • @a7i3n93

    Thanks!

  • @abegosum

    Thank you for summarizing this.

  • @Beryesa.

    Need a short clip for how do you stock the thumbnails

  • @hvymtl70
    @hvymtl70  +36

    At the end of the day, IBM overpaid for Red Hat that, as far as I know, was doing fine on its own (just look at a graph of Red Hat stock before the purchase), and now IBM is trying to generate the revenues to justify the price they paid. Red Hat is as much a victim as CentOs, Alma, Rocky and the community.

  • @Little-bird-told-me

    Fedora users are the

  • @YouShisha1393

    Can you not recod a screen with a video player UI in it? Is it hard to download the original video and add yourself in it?

  • @szaszm_

    They started monetizing more aggressively because the market is down, and their customers are probably terminating their support contracts to move to CentOS, that was also maintained by them. It's understandable that they had to make changes to protect their interests, even at the cost of donating less to the community. Even with that, they are doing more than any other company to keep the Linux space alive and healthy. Without RedHat, the Linux desktop would be even more of a buggy mess than it was 10 years ago.

  • @AshnSilvercorp

    I had someone from RHEL reach our L1 support today regarding renewing support subscriptions...

  • @bloodstainedchasm

    i always kinda had a strange feeling about redhat... maybe someone should make a 420greenhat fork or maybe just a greenhat or greencap cause redhat was cappin :D