Bobby Fischer | Mental Health & Personality
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- This video answers the questions: Can I discuss the mental health and personality factors that may be at work in the life and death of Bobby Fischer?
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Bobby’s complaint about his opponents pre-arranging draws probably wasn’t paranoia. That was and still is very common in high-level chess. It saves mental stamina for more important matches.
Very likely true.
A draw during a candidates tournament is only damaging for both players.
After all: Only the victor of the tournament is going to play for the championship.
Therefore only victories are helping you, draws are already not good enough.
It would make no sense at all to pre-arrange draws during such a tournament as it would only damage both players.
This make no sense at all.
But if you like to believe in the paraniod thinking of a well known madman then what can one do about it?
It was, and still is, but you are equivocating. Bobby's complaint was that his opponents were arranging draws with each other before the games specifically to ruin his chances of winning tournaments. The intentional drawing that goes on in chess today is very different. Though it makes the sport less interesting, top chess players make draws against each other to mitigate the risk of losing one's OWN game and in doing so running the risk of ruining a tournament. The reason for the draws is to ensure ones own chances to win tournaments rather than to collude against an opponent. This type of drawing has no direct premeditation between the parties, where Fischer's opponents would have verbal agreements before the game that they would draw. It is very, very different.
That wasn't the accusation, the accusation was they did it to make sure he lost. I think this was just an example of an insecure 20 year old making excuses for his poor performance. Nobody feared Fischer outside of the US in 1962, especially no one in Russia.
@@Dalibansoldier I think Fischer probably was a narcissist or just extremely insecure. Fischer in 1962 was not feared by the Russians.
Fischer was actually right about the Soviet players arranging draws with each other when he was playing in a tournament against them.
Some of his claims were probably true (Petrosian, Geller and Keres arranging draws). But he also made a ton of ridiculous accusations (Korchnoi throwing games, Karpov-Kasparov matches being entirely prearranged).
Yes, I made a comment about that.
Yes, he was. His later claims about Korchnoi and Karpov-Kasparov are a different thing. I think he was also actually right about other things too, although some of those things are very politically-incorrect. He didn't seem to be afraid of public critique when expressing his concerns. He was certainly very assertive, which is rare.
@@xavieryates9782 poor guy was just scared from the real world. he was innocent, ik it.
@random 3591 he felt like everyone was against him which was why he was always so defensive and skeptic of the world.
Just as an aside, Fischer learned Russian so that he could study their chess journals. He was more than thorough. He wasn't entirely off-base in thinking that the Russians would gang up on him. Chess is like bicycle racing in that national teams help out their premier players.
That's going the extra mile. The "Informant" is all you need to survey all the top candidates' matches. It's presented in figurine algebraic notation, which is a universal language for all chess players.
I think that when you are labeled as a genius at something, this has the potential to become obsessed with the details and to be a true genius you are by nature become hard to deal with because of the success you obtain a high level in your introverted ego, that is why it's unfair to compare your self with a pro athlete because, there is most certainly a gift from a higher power ie ,God's gift because of the gift the ego inflates and the person becomes by default harder to deal with, and because the man is imperfect because the massive ego makes the individual think that he is more or better than everyone one else, but thier are two factors the jealous of others that want to be like him and the fact that because of the gift you have at least a 50 percent chance of self destruction, by the way I think that even the most stable person at one time or another at least once in a while feels that he's not sane
I love hearing people's personal experiences with Bobby Fischer he was a person you had to meet be able to talk about him
@@harrymills2770 Chess Informants were not published until 1967. Fischer had been reading Russian publications since the mid-50's.
@@harrymills2770 Informant only began in 1966, with 2 issues per year. Fischer had already been a pro for almost a decade. If an important opening innovation occurs today, the Russian chess press will report it tomorrow, but the next edition of Informant could be months away.
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not really spying on you.
For a Dr he never heard the saying, "even paranoid have enemies''. Also dealing with Russians would make anyone paranoid
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Very clever insight
@@Michael-bt6ht You got it.
I mean,, Fischer was just a genius. What would he know about being spied on?
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He "had good analytical skills." Just good? Understatement of the century.
Lol seriously bothered me too
he says near the end that he had a powerful ability to analyze if you want to nitpick semantics
being good at Chess does not mean his skills reaches over all other areas of life and analyzing.
Indeed, he must have been way above average in term of analytical skills to be one of the greatest in chess.
@@phoenix21studios Except it does. You sound like you know nothing about chess and mathematics. Only a fool opens his mouth when he knows nothing.
Some of his chess demands were totally legitimate such as better lighting conditions when playing these long 5 hour matches. The situation with the pre-arranged draws had to do with when he played many Russian players in a tournament, his contention was that they would draw against each other in order to save energy and worked together to make sure that Fischer would lose in the tournament or at least have a more difficult time. Some of these things weren't necessarily examples of paranoia. He didn't trust many people because he felt that people took advantage of him because of his celebrity and talent and most likely his troubled childhood factored in to his distrust of people. His paranoia seems to have become more acute later in his life. Also, remember, Bobby did everything himself regarding his chess and studying for these matches. His genius and work ethic led to his championship level chess but also made for a really lonely life.
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The East Bloc cheat? That's totally paranoid.
@@anonymike8280 Lolz.
Years later it was virtually proven that some of the Soviet GMs did collude to conserve energy and make it more difficult for Fischer to win tourneys.
Couple points of clarification: It was later proven through official memos that the Soviet grandmasters actually were colluding in several instances, achieving easy draws in order to conserve their strength. Also, it's a common narrative to say that the level of Fischer's play had declined in his return match with Spassky in 1992, however he did manage to produce several fantastic brilliancies--in particular games 1 and 11.
Chess knowledge also had evolved between 1972 and 1992. Gary Kasparov in an interview says that it is irrelevant to compare world champion chess strength across generation, basically because next generation learns from the previous. It is even more true now that many computers software are above human world champion strength.
@@jeanjasinczuk7543 Absolutely, that's an excellent point.
easy draws, still happening - a lot.
Still being able to play at a good strength 20 years older and after 20 years out of competition says a lot in itself.
As a Finn, we have a common understanding here that any soviet or Russian organization is expected to be corrupt. In travel guides for Russia, they give the advice to bribe the police if you get in to trouble.
The Soviets did collude against Fischer by pre-arranging draws.
Ikr, this video was disappointing.
His mom a communist, spied by FBI as a child. Continuously plays top level chess games with both nations pride at stake. And on top of that his own government wants to arrest him for playing a chess game!!
Any normal human being will have crazy fears after that since he was literally a target for the two biggest countries in the world.
This video takes zero consideration for the circumstances, and talks as if all the fears about poisoning etc were being had by an average truck driver today and not a big public figure of the cold War.
Mikhail Tal destroyed the young BF 4-0 in the candidates tournament of 1959.Then annihilated the world champion Botvinnik in1960. 😀😀😀
@@lokeshn8850 I think you need to watch the video again. He had mental health problems long before he was a public figure... His mother being spied on is also mentioned as a factor that contributed to his mental health...
@@chrisdonegan428 Bobby was only 16 years old in 1959 and had not yet reached his most dangerous heights against the Russians. The Russians did in fact collude to draw against each other to save their energy for Fischer. This was proven by KGB documents. Petrosian, who admitted agreeing to draws in advance, meekly tried to defend it:" We are not gladiators". Bobby rightly complained that the players were analyzing their games out loud afterwards at the table, which was very distracting, but Golumbek, the arbiter, did nothing.
That's the last time Tal ever did that to Bobby and in fact, Bobby beat Tal in their Curacao Candidates matches in 1962. Botvinnik had never played Tal before, but one year later, in 1961, Botvinnik demolished Tal to regain the championship. Tal never again reached his peak, largely because of health issues and the fact that many of his strange and complicated sacrifices were later proven to lead to losing positions with correct analysis.
In the Curaçao Candidates' tournament in 1962, in a Sports Illustrated manifesto (“The Russians Have Fixed World Chess”), by Bobby, claiming a rudimentary grasp of Russian allowed him to sniff out their cheating: “They would openly analyze my game while I was still playing it. It is strictly against the rules for a player to discuss a game in progress, or even to speak with another player during a game - or, for that matter, with anyone.” Fischer also posed that the format of the tournament was problematic as it allowed the numerous Soviet players to collude in a series of draws and fixes, saving their energy for the finals. His suspicions were validated by several witnesses, including a Soviet grand master. I repeat: " His suspicions were VALIDATED by several witnesses, including a SOVIET GRANDMASTER. "
As a member of both the Marshall Chess Club and the former Manhattan Chess Club (Bobby's longtime chess club), I know several top players who knew Bobby , including Masters and Grandmasters, some who were former Russians. It was common knowledge that that the Russians cheated and colluded against Bobby Fischer. The fact that he was able to completely demolish the Russians to win the Interzonal and then the Candidates Tournament to take on Spassky in 1972, despite their cheating, says all you need to know about his true greatness. But that in no way minimizes the Russians penchant for cheating.
What other things he might have been right about?
"He kicked the principal in elementary school" me: wait what did my love for Bobby fisher just grow
I'm impressed. I mean, a few of us elite can drop out of high school and GED out, but kicking the principal? In elementary school? I have to admit that's kind of cool.
@@ryanflanagan9624 "Jeebus said, Ye shall kick the Principal in the ass, yea indeed, thou shalt apply the Sole of your Sandal to the Principal's Buttocks, and ye shall kick mightily... " hilarious.
@@ryanflanagan9624 HAIL SATAN
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As someone who has read some of Bobby Fischer's work and studied his games. The guy was truly a 180 IQ genuis who never really had a childhood.. training chess 6-10 hours a day as a teenager. The amount of pressure he eventually put on himself to become world champion + lack of being around family played a big role in how he developed as a person. Loved the analysis, thanks Dr. Grande!
Sounds a little like Michael Jackson, but Dr. Grande's already done a video on him.
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Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess [a]that Jesus [b]Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love [a]Him because He first loved us.
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, [b]how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 john 4
I've never known someone who was world class at ANYthing who didn't have big gaps in their personalities/understanding of the world.
I’m not going on this phone
Fischer is a good example of the phrase: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you".
After winning the world chess championship Fischer became convinced that Mossad agents were across the street, keeping him under surveillance. Yet he always outwitted their evil schemes. This and other amazing feats can be found in Frank Brady's biography of Fischer, "Endgame".
I have played chess most of my life, in several clubs and tournaments. Bobby Fischer is without question the greatest player of all time. He was simply brilliant.
Brilliant no doubt but Magnus is better though. We have way more tools these days.
@@MtnMichael88 Lol. No chess player who ever lived is better than BF.
I definitely believe he had the highest raw IQ of any chess player I mean he beat the Soviet chess machine on his own magnus to me seems more like an over achiever
@@MtnMichael88 And you are one of them.
Magnus Carlson is right up there with him.
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27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is [c]justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not!
On the contrary, we establish the law.
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Your closing thoughts were poignant. Your idea that chess saved Bobby Fisher and that it reduced his presentation of symptoms is genius. I watch ALL of your videos and learn from all of them.
Agreed. Dr. Grande's analysis sounds most plausible to me as well. As Dr. Grande indicated, although chess seemed to have caused him some stress, at least the competitive part, it also likely to a large extent spared him a likely worse life than what he had. It seems like despite his psychological problems, it was actually because of his chess abilities and fame that people around the world would yet give him some support. Whereas, had he not been good at chess, he might have ended up homeless or low income as maybe unlikely to hold down a job well, and not much support.
Well stated.🧐😄
I just thought it was aspergers. As soon as I saw him in his first interviews his presentation reminded me of people I knew with what was previously called aspergers. What people understood to be narcissism is actually just truthful. It is culturally understood to be an egoist when someone says "yes I am the best". I think he was just being honest. He believed at the time he was the best.
His demands are also very typical of high functioning ASD, plus hyper sensitive hearing, plus obsessive narrow interests, plus his black white thinking and deterioration with age and failures. Also, it's genetic and his mum ws similar
Yes I agree, lot of autistic people are like this. I noticed it too during his interviews
In my opinion Fischer also had Asperger's Syndrome.
That’s what I was thinking. My niece is just like this. And she also has OCD.
What’s interesting about that is in later interviews I’ve heard of him he was way more humble not claiming to be the best for sure(although I will admit his humbleness is still braggadocios compared to others haha) . Gave praise to morphy and a lot of the older talents.
I remember Bobby Fischer growing up when I was little. I remember him winning all of these championships and hir being lauded for his ability to win at chess at every turn. As I got older I wondered what happened to him now. I remember looking him up to see where he went, and why he was no longer playing chess. And I was surprised
If his mother was spied on by the FBI, then it doesn’t seem like she was behaving in a paranoid way. If Bobby was also spied on as a child, it would explain why he would not want to be watched or filmed. His sensory sensitivity and wanting to control conditions while playing chess do lean towards asd. Throw in ocd and obsessing over one special interest with such amazing focus. Well, it’s hard to say now even in hindsight isn’t it? When you have quirky behaviour or poor social skills people really do say a lot of mean things about you, to your face as well as behind your back. I dare say he was correct about people talking about him if he was arguing with them the whole time. Well it’s all academic now I guess 🙂🐝
Yes, it’s hard to call it paranoid when it’s true, which Dr. Grande did acknowledge. The FBI tracked every move adult Bobby made. In addition to what he experienced through his mother, that would be unsettling to say the least.
True. Also the Soviets were certainly agreeing to draws, having teams study his games, and who knows what else in order to beat him.
The FBI did spy on his mother plus he was right about Soviets tying on purpose to save energy. And although microphones were never found, the Soviets did have goons following him around.
It's probably horrible to be observed and spied on all the time since he was a kid.
When Fischer was a teenager he visited Russia and played against the grandmasters there. You think the KGB wasnt observing him? You think the KGB didnt tap his phone while in Moscow? Lol
Fischer was probably schizoid.
I agree with everyone it's likely he or his family had some legit reasons to have concerns. At same time if he had some natural tendencies toward paranoia, ocd, etc., or was schizophrenic, then what the Russians or other people were doing to him would have made his mental conditions worse.
"Putting a slight damper on the therapeutic alliance". These videos are therapeutic. Laughter is so good when isolating alone from a virus.
Dr. Grande is the most understated, tongue-in-cheek psychologist I have ever encountered.
You could almost say he had flat effect.
Yes. Just some one speaking in a calm. Balanced way, is therapy
Peggy, sometimes its just laughable in a sick way, to know there are others as sick as me
as The Bible God's Word is true even this is fulfilled, Jesus loves you!
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. matthew 24:9-14
Fascinating analysis of the amazing and complex puzzle that was Bobby Fischer. As a physician and a chess player who followed Fischer's extraordinary career and often bizarre behavior, I think your insights are quite on the mark. Great exposition of the human riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.
He probably knew more than he should have. Think about having this knowledge and being punished for something like a chess match. Youd think they were out to get you.
Excellent presentation! From my very limited observations as a modest chess player myself, I saw that Bobby Fischer spent a good deal of time with Mr. Brady, his wealthy benefactor, as a young man, for many years and also with Larry Evans and Fr. William Lombardi (strong GMs) for large time segments during his preparation and Championship match and seemed to be fully functional. His long history of play in many social settings seemed fairly normal and his obsession with playing conditions and monetary compensation were actually necessary and certainly raised the standards for all professional players-all very admirable traits. His "delusions" about Russian collusion was factual, not fantasy. The Russians dominated the chess world and fanaticlly tried to stop Fischer from winning becaused it threatened the Socialist model of superiority. They actually did conspire to draw with each other to conserve mental energy, while working hard to defeat other rivals. I think, over time, the high level of chess strain has damaged many other players minds such as former world champion William Steinitz.
"Fiacher's father walked around with soap in his pocket"...me thinking how I have isopropyl alcohol hand gel in my car, every handbag I use and in a pocket of every jacket I wear...
Yeah, l don't really know why people keep making an issue out of this. I often carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer around with me. Most people are slobs l guess.
been doing this all your life ...or just since the covid hoax?
@@donnlayne486 pre-covid. I don't imagine hand sanitizer would work on covid anyway
Bobby: "I don't believe in psychology. I believe in good moves.
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Dr. Grande: Yah? Let me upload this video then!
I believe in good memes
@@ryanflanagan9624 Bro stfu lmao
@@ryanflanagan9624 That's a very boring meme though
@@ryanflanagan9624 stop
@@palmerthompson9571 Jesus has said to go and make disciples of all nations baptizing in The Name of The Father The Son The Holy Spirit teaching everyone to obey God to His praise and glory for He is The Name above every other name in Jesus Name we pray amen see matthew 28 and philippians 2 and ask The Holy Spirit to guide your heart and mind as you read God's perfect Word in The Bible as Jesus is The Living Word amen
Jesus Who was in very nature God to die on the cross and be raised again to save us all
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified [a]freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a [b]propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is [c]justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.
romans 3:23-31 of God's perfect Word in The Bible ask The Holy Spirit to guide heart and mind to God's perfect Word in The Bible in Jesus Name we pray amen
Jesus is coming are you ready? do you believe in Jesus, declare with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead and you are saved see romans 10-11 of God's perfect Word in The Bible asking God's guidance of The Holy Spirit as you read as Jesus is The Living Word. Jesus loves us and died on the cross and rose again to save us all. do you believe in Jesus? come into fellowship with Jesus, grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ form a relationship with The One Who laid His life down for you to save us all for He loves us so much and He alone saves all in Jesus Name we pray amen for we all need Jesus, all sin and fall short of The glory of God and the wages of sin is death. the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord, for Jesus died on the cross and rose again and by His blood our sins are forgiven. there is no other way than Jesus for He is The Way The Truth The Life and no one comes to The Father except through Him. for it is by declaring with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you are saved see romans 10:9-13, i encourage you to read your Bible and invite The Holy Spirit to guide your mind as you read, john romans psalms luke and mark are good places to start. God bless God Jesus The Holy Spirit love you and be with you forevermore in Jesus Name we pray amen :) only One God our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ i am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. galatians 2:20 in Jesus Name we pray amen, pray for the peace of israel pray for those who are persucated for righteousness sake for their is the kingdom of heaven see matthew 5:10 pray for the brethren pray for me in all things praying for you in Jesus Name we pray amen may you believe in Jesus and be saved in Jesus Name we pray amen i encourage you to repent of your sins turn from them and come to believe in Jesus for it is by declaring with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you are saved and all who truly put their trust in Him will never be put to shame in Jesus Name we pray amen in Jesus Name we pray amen (see romans 10-11) for the kingdom of heaven is at hand, no one is promised tomorrow and Jesus alone saves all in Jesus Name we pray amen God bless God Jesus The Holy Spirit love you and be with you forevermore praying for you pray for me in all things through trials and temptations and sin and to be more Christ like everyday for Jesus is perfect and the same always in Jesus Name we pray amen Jesus loves us all and died and rose again to save us all for by His blood our sins are forgiven, it is God's gift to us to be saved for we do not deserve it and we can not earn it but when we believe in Jesus we are saved and have passed over from death to life with God and Jesus forevermore in Jesus Name hey only God Jesus The Holy Spirit are perfect and only One God our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and we can be made righteous when we come to Jesus for while we have sinned and fall short of The glory of God Jesus The Holy Spirit but when we believe in Jesus and come to Him our sins are forgiven and we can turn from sin and wickedness and live a life worthy to Jesus in Jesus Name we pray amen Wherewith shall I come before the Lord, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old? 7 Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? 8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? micah 6:6-8 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. john 14:6-7 do not use The Lord's Name in vain instead honor God love God with all heart soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself, believe in The One God has sent Jesus Christ for this is The Work of God in Jesus Name we pray amen That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For The scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. romans 10:9-13 only God Jesus The Holy Spirit are perfect and when we come to Jesus we can be saved for by His blood our sins are forgiven and when we believe we are saved, i encourage you to read your Bible for it alone is God's Word for us and invite The Holy Spirit into your life for it is God's Word and Spirit that give light and life to all for Jesus is The Living Word and all who believe in Jesus are saved and have passed over from death to life. they re no longer separated from God for eternity but have life and peace with God and Jesus forevermore, instead of being condemned to the lake of fire we have life in the new heaven the new earth and the new jerusalem where there is no more death or mourning or sorrow or crying or pain or sin for Jesus bore them all on the cross taking them away forevermore and when we truly believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior we are saved in Jesus Name we pray amen come into The Kingdom of Light accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior today amen amen For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the Name of God’s one and only Son john 3:16-18 come to know Jesus today He died on the cross for our sins and rose again, so we can live with Him forever because He loves us, by His blood He has victory over sin, death and hell amen. God Jesus The Holy Spirit love you and be with you forevermore amen God bless amen :) :)
I have watched you since inception. Your analysis always rings unbiased and sound. I will also note the emergence of your own personality into the analysis’ you present. Your interjections of subtle sarcasm serves up a wonderful balance to offset the serious nature of the subjects you take on. Thank you! I wear one of your T Shirts with much pride and enthusiasm.
I was a chess champion as I kid…I found this to be a touching tribute to Bobby Fisher…I can identify with getting lost in the game in search of a singular and meaningful identity. Eventually, I stopped and gave up playing when, I realized to be a true devotee of the game that I wouldn’t be good at anything else…Bobby Fisher truly was the greatest who ever played the game by sacrificing himself and everything to it…
I love Dr. Grande's proud shoulder dance after he recites O.C.E.A.N.
Good catch Katy! He's so cute!
For ages I thought he was saying "eroticism" til I realised it doesn't start with N and he's actually been saying "neuroticism".
@@em84c hahaha me too!! :)
@@em84c You heard what you wanted to hear. ;)
@@vivthefree nah Ive got no sex drive 😇 but I remember he did a video about a serial killer and I was surprised they had low eroticism 😆
When I'm socializing, I often bring up odd subjects (nerves, I guess): history of weaving, the Berlin Wall, the Hittites, etc. People are not interested -- so my mantra on heading out is "Don't talk about Bobby Fischer! Don't talk about Bobby Fischer,...."!
I would be interested. The history of weaving is fascinating. "Women's Work: The first 20,000 Years" by Elizabeth Wayland Barber is really good. That's the only one of read so far but it really piqued my interest.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
Same. I'm interested in things that most people aren't and it can be difficult to connect with others on anything more than a superficial level. It's just easier to keep one's weird to themselves, right?
@@meumnomen living waters youtube, i think you would enjoy. time is passing by quickly today is the day of salvation read and see how much God loves you and wants you to be saved
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
@@meumnomen 🤔 ya, it's just not easy to find someone to talk to about the same interest.
There was a joke that during one of the big chess tournaments, the local papers decided as an angle to send up a high-class prostitute to his room. The day they asked about the woman and how his night went. Bobby Fisher said it was ok, but the woman knew nothing about playing chess.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
@@ryanflanagan9624 Mathew 10 :14
@@pepelemoko01 yes and amen for God will judge in righteousness and justice
Has thou put your faith in Jesus? Has thou been born again as Jesus said one must be to enter the Kingdom of God? See john 3 Jesus loves you! He died on the cross and rose again by His blood our sins are forgiven and we have life with God and Jesus forever amen! by God's grace through faith in Jesus we are saved amen!
Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” john 3:3
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I listened to this and felt so bad for him, Thank you Iceland.
Fascinating! I was hanging on your every word, more so than usual. Your conclusion about Bobby Fisher and the role chess played in his life struck me as very beautiful and moving.
A perfect way of describing it; "beautiful and moving". Thank you for saying that.
Jesus is love
And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
17 Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love [a]Him because He first loved us.
20 If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, [b]how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 john 4:16-21
Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. romans 8:37-39
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
Jesus told us first! Jesus' Words are coming true today amen
as The Bible God's Word is true even this is fulfilled, Jesus loves you!
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. matthew 24:4-14
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
john 14:6-7 amen
1 john 4, God is love ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in Jesus Name we pray amen God bless Jesus loves you may The Holy Spirit guide you now and forevermore in Jesus Name we pray amen
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Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess [a]that Jesus [b]Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love [a]Him because He first loved us.
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, [b]how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 john 4
Growing up, our family played a lot of games (we lived off the grid and didn't have television, nearest neighbor was 13 miles away) and chess was a big one. As we got older and Dad put a pelton wheel on the creek to generate electricity, we did get television (of sorts) and Bobby Fisher was our hero. We knew he was a little cracked but we loved him nonetheless. Thank you for the analysis.
Those good old days.
FIsher, in many ways, reminds me of my mother, in terms of personality. When I was a boy she attended a self help program called "Recovery." It was based on research by neuropsychiatrist Abraham Low. If I remember correctly, one principal to Low's work was that highly intelligent people often suffer from disorders. Thanks for reading.
Well crafted and comprehensive analysis. I always feel like I have learned something and have a better perspective after listening to Dr. Grande.
Bobby Fischer is the man. Watch the 'Bobbly Fischer Against The World' documentary which is on CZcams. It is amazing.
I saw that a couple of years ago...Great insight into Fischer.
Thank you for the recommendation. I will check it out. The documentary will no doubt allow me to enjoy this video on a deeper level. (And vice versa.)
@@laceyunderall22 Well yh. It's def one of the best documentaries I've seen. Thankfully Dr Grande didn't mention this one bit that happens in it which was totally nuts, so this can be saved for when you watch it.
@@laceyunderall22 The movie is based on the life of prodigy chess player Joshua Waitzkin, thought it was good. but it's about him, but there's a lot in there. Let me know if you watch if and like it.
@@juliealbright5191 I think you're confusing 'In Search of Bobby Fischer' with the documentary named above ('Bobby Fischer Against the World').
I really don't understand why people think madness begets genius. It also disturbs me that people would rather observe someone self-destruct to preserve their output rather than encourage their healing. You cannot control others but your positions on others are your responsibility. I don't advocate for destructive genius because I think stable genius may be more enjoyable to the possessor.
Great video again.
Have you known many true geniuses? Stability is often difficult to maintain because it can be inversely proportional -- and instability directly connected.
Exactly! Let the "genius" become a "boring" gardener or something, if it makes them happy! Society isn't entitled to their so-called potential.
@@elainelouve That's very true! I agree a hundred percent about the pressure on "gifted" students to overacheive... Or that anything that isn't perfect to begin with is failure. I was raised in a very similar culture, and yup, struggle to this day. You're very right... I do still think that careers that aren't glorified or considered... I don't know, worthy of the highest respect? I think personal fulfillment and happiness means sometimes enjoying your own intellect, and having the CHOICE to be a gardener or a schoolteacher if you want. I'm not diminishing the importance of those particular professions... I think they're essential. As recent events have showed us, we don't always appreciate essential services... Pushing your intellect to it's fullest capacity should be a choice, too, is what I mean. I hope I made sense!
@@EH012 Yes - I, too, shared elements of this experience, and know others who have, as well.
KoreaMojo they tend to go together. Nobody knows why
People today have no idea how big a star Bobby Fischer was. In the height of the cold war he was crushing the best russian players on earth. He was an odd duck but people loved him. He was brash as hell and told everybody he was going to win. He was on Carson more than once as well as the Dick Cavett show. I think Cavett played chess with him. Chess blew up all over the United states and chess clubs became all the rage. Dude was an icon and he was just this gangly kid with laser focus and insane confidence. RIP. Great analysis again Dr.G!
Tragic story. I visited his grave in Iceland on my most recent trip. One of the best to ever do it.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
Jesus told us first! Jesus' Words are coming true today amen
as The Bible God's Word is true even this is fulfilled, Jesus loves you!
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. matthew 24:4-14
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
john 14:6-7 amen
“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they are not out to get you.”
Great analysis! Very compassionate. 💚
I keep hoping for your analysis of the Black Dahlia case. Who could/would do that to another person??? Hope springs eternal! 😉
1 john 4, God is love ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in Jesus Name we pray amen God bless Jesus loves you may The Holy Spirit guide you now and forevermore in Jesus Name we pray amen
✝️❤️😊 pray pray for staceys mom and for aunt alexa and for baby wesley to be healed and to breathe on his own in Jesus Name we pray amen!
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess [a]that Jesus [b]Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love [a]Him because He first loved us.
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, [b]how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 john 4
living waters youtube, i think you would enjoy. time is passing by quickly today is the day of salvation read and see how much God loves you and wants you to be saved
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
Jesus told us first! Jesus' Words are coming true today amen
as The Bible God's Word is true even this is fulfilled, Jesus loves you!
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. matthew 24:4-14
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
john 14:6-7 amen
1 john 4, God is love ask The Holy Spirit to guide you in Jesus Name we pray amen God bless Jesus loves you may The Holy Spirit guide you now and forevermore in Jesus Name we pray amen
✝️❤️😊 pray pray for staceys mom and for aunt alexa and for baby wesley to be healed and to breathe on his own in Jesus Name we pray amen!
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess [a]that Jesus [b]Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.
4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. 6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9 In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him. 10 In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us. 13 By this we know that we abide in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love. 19 We love [a]Him because He first loved us.
If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, [b]how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21 And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
1 john 4
Jesus is our Hope
Thus God, determining to show more abundantly to the heirs of promise the [a]immutability of His counsel, [b]confirmed it by an oath, 18 that by two [c]immutable things, in which it is impossible for God to lie, we [d]might have strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold of the hope set before us.
19 This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and which enters the Presence behind the veil, 20 where the forerunner has entered for us, even Jesus, having become High Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek.
hebrews 6:17-20
Jesus is The High Priest forever, none after Him for He alone reigns supreme amen
I feel for Bobby Fischer. When I was 15 I fell hard for the music group Chicago. Their music opened doors in my mind that I didn't know existed. Music filled in where high school was failing and providing me an escape from a horrible home environment. I guess you could say I was obsessed. My parents went one step further than shoving me into therapy to cure me; they threatened to put me in either a mental institution or home for wayward girls if I didn't stop obsessing. I didn't, and it was only after my cousin intervened with "she doesn't smoke or drink, and she is out at all hours of the night with boys doing whatever. She could be worse off than liking a rock group." I think my parents made me a little schizoid, but I can tell you I never treated my children the same way.
Sorry about your horrible experience with that. Pretty upsetting, glad you seem to have made it out of their fine
I hope your cousin said you were NOT out at all hours with boys doing whatever....
Terry Kath was a genius. Such a terrible loss when he passed.
Although I never played chess and never met him personally, Bobby Fisher has always been a fascinating personality for me. Extremely intelligent, fragile and vulnerable at the same time. Thank you for this analysis.
Maybe the most needed one you have ever done, bravo!
I think a similar story that probably deserves a video is that of John Nash and the movie “A Beautiful Mind”.
living waters youtube, i think you would enjoy. time is passing by quickly today is the day of salvation read and see how much God loves you and wants you to be saved
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
Jesus told us first! Jesus' Words are coming true today amen
as The Bible God's Word is true even this is fulfilled, Jesus loves you!
And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. matthew 24:4-14
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
“If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
john 14:6-7 amen
living waters youtube, i think you would enjoy. time is passing by quickly today is the day of salvation read and see how much God loves you and wants you to be saved
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
I like how you analyse individual traits rather than get hyper-reliant on diagnoses, especially in this case - many people are quick to equate intelligence to ASD and let any observed 'symptoms' fit that preconception. Great video!
Thank you...very interesting, and presented in a clear and convincing way. Very helpful for those of us who profoundly admire Fischer in some respects but also find some of his views and statements deeply troubling.
The hard work you put in to obtaining your educational level is very evident in this video
Wow I didn’t know his story, amazing , but I confess it made me immensely sad, “ chess was his only friend “ I wanted to hug him... thanks Dr Grande 😊
A very engaging comment.
Me too. Only the way Dr. Grande said it.
He hated women and treated them as subhumans.
Knowing ppl I don't blame him.
I think Richard Nixon would be an interesting subject of study.
I always found him to be a sad character. He was likely an intellectual, like his character in the movie about the interview said, and not an outgoing person. In the same manner Donald Trump just want to be liked. There's much evidence for this. And look at him now
Yes!
@@some______guy Have to be outgoing to be as politically successful as he was.
"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[a] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” john 14:6-7 of God's perfect Word in The Bible in Jesus Name we pray amen may The Holy Spirit guide you now and forevermore in Jesus Name we pray amen
do you believe in Jesus? are you saved? is He your Lord Savior and King for salvation is found in Jesus alone. ask God's guidance in The Holy Spirit as you read God's perfect Word in The Bible as Jesus is The Living Word john psalm romans hebrews galatians 1,2 thessalonians 1,2,3 john 1,2 peter james jude colossians and revelation are good places to start in Jesus Name we pray amen
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring [a]us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20 who formerly were disobedient, [b]when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21 There is also an antitype which now saves us-baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers having been made subject to Him. 1 peter 3:18-22 of God’s perfect Word in The Bible ask The Holy Spirit to guard and guide heart and mind in God’s perfect Word in The Bible and The Bible alone as Jesus is The Living Word in Jesus Name we pray amen In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [a]comprehend it. john 1:1-5
Jesus is coming are you ready? do you believe in Jesus, declare with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead and you are saved see romans 10-11 of God's perfect Word in The Bible asking God's guidance of The Holy Spirit as you read as Jesus is The Living Word. Jesus loves us and died on the cross and rose again to save us all. do you believe in Jesus? He loves you and He Jesus alone saves all, faith in Jesus by God's grace. declare with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you are saved in Jesus Name we pray amen come into fellowship with Jesus, grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ form a relationship with The One Who laid His life down for you to save us all for He loves us so much and He alone saves all in Jesus Name we pray amen Jesus loves you, He died on the cross and rose again and by His blood our sins are forgiven. sin entered the world through man and the wages of sin is death, all sin and fall short of The glory of God but all are justified freely by Jesus Christ. the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior forevermore, declare with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead you are saved amen. i encourage you to repent of your sins turn from them and come to Jesus and be saved and follow Him for the kingdom of heaven is at hand, no one is promised tomorrow and Jesus alone saves all from sin death and hell and gives life forevermore in the new heaven the new earth the new jerusalem with no more death or mourning or sorrow or pain or sin for Jesus has bore it on the cross taking it away forevermore amen praying for you in Jesus Name we pray amen. i encourage you to read your Bible and invite The Holy Spirit to guide your mind, for The Bible is God's perfect Word and Jesus is The Living Word, john romans psalms luke and revelation are good places to start God bless in Jesus Name we pray amen praying for you pray for me in Jesus Name we pray amen For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son john 3:16-18 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. 26 And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”27 john 11:25-27 She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”come to know Jesus today He died on the cross for our sins and rose again, so we can live with Him forever because He loves us, by His blood He has victory over sin, death and hell amen. God Jesus The Holy Spirit love you and be with you forevermore amen God bless amen :) :)
Jesus forgives us our sins, if we confess our sins Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness see 1 john 1 asking God's guidance in The Holy Spirit, declare with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believing in your heart that God raised Him from the dead and you are saved in Jesus Name we pray amen see romans 10-11 asking God's guidance in The Holy Spirit as you read God's perfect Word in The Bible as Jesus is The Living Word in Jesus Name we pray amen God bless God Jesus The Holy Spirit love you and be with you now and forevermore in Jesus Name we pray amen
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified [a]freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a [b]propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is [c]justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law.
romans 3:23-31 of God's perfect Word in The Bible ask The Holy Spirit to guide heart and mind to God's perfect Word in The Bible in Jesus Name we pray amen
Tricky Dick was an obsessive mnemonic. Quite fascinating actually. Intellectually slightly above average, but obsessively observant regarding behavior and speech of others. Especially those he regarded as opponents.
I am a fanatic chess player. A lot about Bobby Fisher can be said, but let's never forget nor underestimate his incredible insight in chess. He was not only absolutely brilliant but also his style was unique, original, breaking traditionial thinking. It was art. He certainly was very special.
Great job including all the possibilities and theories yet giving a grounded opinion as always!
This was a video i didn't expect, but a great analysis of such a complex person. i like that you put that "Chess Saved Bobby Fischer." Which is something that I hadn't thought of. Also, since you like Movies...if you ever get the chance, or feel like it, A movie I really liked was "Searching for Bobby Fischer." It's not that well known, but holds 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Laurence Fishburne got robbed of an oscar nomination for that role.
Julie Albright the movie had nothing to do with Bobby
@@seka1986 It does talk about Bobby Fisher alot, but the movie is truly about GM Josh Watskins as a child and how he was a chess prodigy at a young age like Bobby.
That is the movie that used his name in the title yet gave him no royalties. How you would like a movie that made millions of dollars with the title "Looking to be like Julie Albright", then never gave you a cent? He sued, and lost - of course. His name is his own and they profited off of his name, used his image, and never compensated him. But, Fischer was paranoid and disagreeable?
@@seka1986 Thanks for letting me know since I watched it a couple of times and didn't realize that.
@@JimJWalker Wow...I had no idea suggesting a movie for someone to watch would be so triggering You are free not to watch the movie I suggested.
One wonders whether there’s a syndrome mental health professionals didn’t try and diagnose him with.
VERY gracious ending. I commend you for it. It's a side of you that doesn't show up a lot in your videos -- but it acts as proof of your generosity and warmth. Nice!
I very much appreciate your compassion towards people Dr. Grande.
ASD raised in a paranoid environment. I really think it's that simple. I think the way he was reared really shaped his actions.
Dr. G has such a dry, unemotional sense of humor delivery, it makes me laugh!! Your topics are always so interesting & informative! Ty!
It’s kind of annoying. Yet he’s very intelligent and articulate therefore I overlook that.
6:36 Dude, it's totally true that Russian Chessplayers were playing pre-arranged draws, to conserve energy, whenever one of them had a scheduled match with Fischer in the following round. He wasn't imagining it. They had been doing that to top American players (Samuel Reshevsky, Reuben Fine) since the 1930's .
Pre-arranging draws is problematic because it allows players to save energy. If I've played 0 games and you've played 6 the last 3 days, that will give me a strong edge.
Thank you for covering these topics. All the information you share sparks my curiosity and takes my mind off the worries I bring home with me from work.
Please consider doing an analysis of Glenn Gould. I see parallels between Fischer and Gould (precocious genius, social isolation, etc.).
Glenn loved the phone. He worked productively with many. Hardly like Fisher.
@@sidecar7714 Glenn wasn't as antisocial as Fischer but he was still somewhat of an isolationist. I believe he became increasingly more so as he aged. His hypochondriasis might've been a contributing factor.
Glenn Gould would be great...
living waters youtube, i think you would enjoy. time is passing by quickly today is the day of salvation read and see how much God loves you and wants you to be saved
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
For me, this has been the most intricate and complex analysis you’ve presented. Amazingly I feel I was able to follow and found it exceedingly interesting.
Thank you for much to ponder.
Thank you for an honest, comprehensive and insightful analysis once again. You have an amazing ability to read between the lines as you push past social opinions, prior speculation & bias, as you treat each case with sucha modicum of sensitivity; as if they were your own family member. 😄
He would have been a model citizen during Covid - soap in his pocket, washing his hands and cleaning door handles etc
Happily staying inside alone for days, just playing chess quietly
horseshit. Nobody could tell Bobby what to do. This is nonsense that you are posting.
@@charlieapples9373 Other than chess, Bobby's favorite pastimes were swimming and walking.
John Smith Those are just modes of transport
Howard Hughes would have as well for those same reasons.
Who else loves Dr. Grande's smile 😊😊😊
Absolutely but too much of it would ruin the dead pan humor.
That would be a nice compliment to the woman 😊
+Ametrine Witch You're a dude
@@themonstersmummy 🤜🏻 *socially distanced fist bump* ☺️
@@jstarr7506 I am indeed!
As a little kid I remember hearing he was difficult, he was super famous at that time. It is so great to see this and to learn more about it now w an adult POV
Dr. Grande videos show a variety of persons. I do enjoy the watching the variety.
I’m hooked on to these Dr. Grande’s videos , I’ve been streaming them non stop for the last 7 hours. Love his thoughtful , researched , non biased , in depth analysis . The Sarcastic humour is an added plus. Please don’t change Dr Grande .
Yes, I really like his dry sharp edged humor...I sometimes have to check to see that I'm not bleeding somewhere...!!
This analysis was heartfelt, Dr. Grande. Thank you as always for seeing the person with such clarity.♥️
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Hi Dr. Grande! I've been a fan of yours since you barely had 2K subscribers! Glad to see you've grown so much!
Bobby Fischer is a legend, but many people use his antics to say, as you mentioned, that chess "ruined" him. I really like your take at 18:05 and was very happy to see your genius insight at work - for a topic I assume you don't follow much, you got everything 100% correct!
I find all of your analyses interesting, beneficial and logical. You are a terrific gentleman and I wish you nothing but the best of health, prosperity and happiness. Well done again Dr. Grande.
Thank you Dr.Grande, you summed up Fischer and chess beautifully. Check out the film Searching for Bobby Fischer. Its not about Fischer but another prodigy Josh Waitzkin. It touches on the demands of genius and chess thoughtfully. Cheers!
I checked out the movie based on your recommendation and was not disappointed. Lawrence Fishbourne and Ben Kingsley never disappoint, it was a great film
Oh, wow! This was good! When you spoke of the high cost, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was just talking about the high cost, psychologically, of something else today, that of looking at a narrative forced upon you and the high cost of dismissing that narrative in light of contradictory information. Sometimes the cost of realizing that which you believed was all lies and letting go of the original belief is simply too high of a cost. It blows my mind that your video was just the sort of thing I was thinking today!! 🤯
I trained with a therapist early in my work who took an approach (one of his many) that considered how new information might invite insight and produce changes in one's model of the world. We definitely are heavily invested in maintaining the models we have -- more as we get older (like, school-aged!). He also noted that we change (even our models of the world) once we are in enough pain. 😑
@U & A Amen ! 🙋🏼♀️👏
U & A Not everybody can afford having been wrong. It’s even costlier among mental health patients.
In the business world, this idea is known as "sunk cost(s)." The idea is that it is an investment that will never pay off in any way, whether or not the original idea was financially sound, seemingly cost effective and, ultimately, either "right" or "wrong"--the reason being that those last two words cannot figure into the calculation.
Heavily investing in an ideology that is subsequently proven wrong or misguided would be an excellent analogy to that same idea, and just as psychologically costful as the same idea would be financially costful in a similar, analagous situation.
@@JLHunter61 Yes! I like that business analogy, too!
He was right about one conspiracy theory in that the Russians were colluding against him in chess tournaments
It’s always the Russians.
I didn't know Dr. Grande did one one on Bobby Fischer and I just had commented that I wish he did. This is the one I wanted to see. I bet he had got alot of requests to do this video. Thank you!
Great content & exceptional commentary towards the end. I especially appreciated the exploration of mental health aspects. As you mentioned Paranoid Personality Disorder, a thought came to mind. Can someone who is constantly gaslighted develop paranoia?
In hindsight, your analysis really shows the significance of understanding mental health issues.
Why did I read this first as "Bobby Flay"? I was like... dang... I mean sure he leans on chilies a lot in his cooking but I don't think he deserves a Dr.Grande vid 😂
🤣🤣🤣 Now I need a spicy snack.
LMAO!!!
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Yes but he does claim everyone’s out to beat him so that may be paranoid ideation 👀
living waters youtube, i think you would enjoy. time is passing by quickly today is the day of salvation read and see how much God loves you and wants you to be saved
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
john 3:16-18
Dr. Grande, I really love your channel but especially this one. This is soooo good! I hope you can also make an analysis of the Polgar Sister and their father Lazlo. And someday, I hope Kasparov?
This is so odd: I listened to a podcast yesterday about Bobby Fischer, then rewatched Pawn Sacrifice (his biopic), watched clips of his interviews on late night shows, and was reading about him on the internet. Dr. Grande is a mind reader now.
I watched some old footage of Fischer on a talk show in the early 70s. He seemed quite shy and polite. But when he was asked to demonstrate moves and end games on the board, he moved the pieces with such confidence and deliberateness, discarding pieces as he went. You could just tell he was a genius.
YAY! Thank you so much! Fisher is my hero because of his excellence in chess in spite of his mental health challenges. I think that many of his "crazy" pre-game demands are actually strategic moves to intimidate his opponents somehow. Thanks again, cheers!
Honestly and directly, this is my favorite video from you. Really good job. Exceptional analysis 🧐.
Very few people have dominated the game of chess like Bobby did, I think he's up there with the likes of Carlsen and Kasparov though
yes he's among the top few. compared to the others, fischers period of dominance is brief but his game-quality is arguably 1st place all-time
No one has dominated like Fischer did, he's the greatest to have ever played the game.
Kasparov spoke eloquently about this to Lex Fridman. In terms of rating comparison with his peers Bobby is the greatest ever. But in terms of longevity it's Kasparov. In terms of pure rating it's Carlsen. My personal fascination with and preference for Bobby is that he achieved it all against the odds, you could almost say single handed, especially compared with the others.
I was a small child been I started following him
It would be more accurate to say that Kasparov and Carlson are up there with Fischer !
Dr. Grande,
Bravo! Bobby Fischer has been a person of interest in my own life for longer than I can recall. I have always felt a level of compassion for him to be such a tremendous talent and genius within the world of chess during the Cold War and how he and his mental health may have been manipulated by the United States. Your analysis struck me as a remarkable way of seeing into the psyche of such a complex individual without the often necessary (and hilarious) candor of the “celebrity” of this day. As a viewer, for quite some time, I value this interpretation of the psyche very much and the work that you put into this was phenomenal and commendable. Thank you for your work, Dr. Grande.
Nice job Dr TG
A lovely and thoughtful wrap-up
As always his analysis pretty good, but a few important things are missed. First, International Master Lawrence Day a contemporary of Fischer said he was beaten by the Los Angeles police and this experience affected and deepened Fischer’s emotional problems. Second, despite Fischer’s frequent unreasonable demands, his demands are directly responsible for improving playing conditions and especially improving prize money. Third, the Russian did cheat including fixing results to help compatriots in tournaments. Also, Fischer was one of the first (likely the very first) full time chess player to make a living solely from chess without government help. Finally, by all accounts, Fischer could be very friendly as many would attest and was not anti-social.
You should definitely do an analysis for Joe from the Netflix series “You”
Yes!!!
Liked the first season quite a bit, second season was okay to me, I don't have Netflix anymore so not sure if the third season is out, out when it will be out...
Then do D’elia
I couldn't even deal with that show! Haha. It was awful. Not content wise per se but the stuff he was doing. Jerking off in the bushes. Omg 😬
jilelena 13 I do believe that I read that a 3rd season is coming out.
Thanks for the video Doc. Bobby Fischer has always fascinated me.
Just started watching your videos. I’d like to see your thoughts on cognitive decline in bipolar disorder. Is it caused by the medication used to manage it- or is it from the condition itself? Dealing with this issue myself and finding conflicting information on the internet. Thanks for the videos, particularly enjoy the true crime series
This was fascinating and presented with such finesse and balance. Thank you.
Can you do a presentation on groupies, especially women who are obsessed with dangerous prisoners and even marry them even though the new husband will. Never be released.
That would make an interesting video. Another one would be men who seek mail order brides. Those kind of fellows seem to turn up on the true crime shows, not kidding.
Excellent suggestion! That always fascinates as well as mystifies me.
This is such an interesting and informative look at the enigmatic Bobby Fischer. I love your point about chess saving him- a great observation.
Fascinating and your logic on Bobby Fischer really makes sense to me. With the description of his parents, I have a hunch there is a large genetic component to the issues he had.
If his father was carrying soap around in his pocket or obsessive hand washing it could be a genetic component. Hard to know for sure but I agree it might be possible.
Of your many videos I have seen, this is probably my favorite. Very interesting analysis of a fascinating person.
Hey, Dr. Grande! I just wanted to say that I had been watching you for such a loooong time and I am very proud to see you get some well deserved recognition. I love that you stayed professional and humble all along. Thank you for uploading your content every day - listening to your videoes became my every day routine before bedtime. Also I wanted to thank you for bringing awareness on mental health. I wish you all the best. Greetings from Poland
Ahhh my two favourite things, chess and psychology. I played chess all through high school, and this guy reminded me of Fischer he played in the big tournament against me a couple times. He took the game so serious because he won every tournament. The time he lost against one kid who was very intelligent and played at the high school level in 5th grade, it caused him to be so mad he started banging his head against the wall. I got upset at times, but I never got to the point of harming myself, but that stuck with me. Though I don't agree with all of his actions, Fischer is definitely one of the best if not the best. He was one of the first figureheads I learned about.
Great comment. Kasparov is my favorite player but Bobby is certainly the most famous player of all time. What is your Elo grade?
4:50, a good example of, to quote Nirvana, "just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you"
Territorial Pissings! Great song.
Beautiful insight on the complexity of human relationships Dr. Grande!
Thank you for the great analysis, Dr. Grande. I was a young teen when Fischer became famous. I agree with your thought that chess “saved” him. I wonder if one could say that chess saved Bobby Fischer in the way that crime-solving saved Sherlock Holmes (admittedly a fictional character).
Great topic!
Deeply touching… I wish I had words to express how I feel listening to your beautiful and profound thoughts… Thank you.
Excellent presentation. Thank you Dr. Grande!
Interesting, Dr. Grande. I kept hearing One Night In Bangkok from the musical Chess in the background of the video😳.
Yes, or "Anthem."
Evelyn Waugh now that’s stuck on my head! It’s ok though because it ousted “Misunderstanding” by Genesis. Good song but three days was enough!
`That brought back memories! It's hearkening back to my teen years in the 80s, and now it's stuck in my mind!
I didn't know, that your name is the name of a British writer. I really thought, that this was your real name, sorry. 🙁
@@mrs.reluctant4095 You are too cute😊. He's a very good author. I particularly enjoy his early, funny, works: Decline and Fall, The Ordeal of Mr. Pinfold, Scoop, Put Out More Flags, Black Mischief, etc. But then, I don't know very many German authors, just Thomas Mann, Gunther Grass, and Hermann Hesse, so our culture only exposes us to certain influences. Have missed your comments. Hope you were doing something fun, like a vacation.