Quadmula Siren F5 Split vs ImpulseRC Apex: Why This Frames Is So F#%king Good // MurdersFPV
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- I get a lot of the same questions regarding the Siren F5 Split so I wanted to put this information out there for others to see exactly what I love about this frame and what better way to do it than to compare it to the ImpulseRC Apex.
Give away is over. Congratulations to LordFPV and GloriousQuads.
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Thank you to my sponsors for helping me do what I love!
- T-Motor
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My Setup:
Betaflight 4.3.1
Quadmula Siren F5 Split Freestyle Frame
T-Motor F7 HD Flight Controller
T-Motor 55A Pro II 32Bit 4in1 ESC
T-Motor Pacer V3 P2207 2080KV motors
T-Motor P49436 Sbang Props
TBS Tracer Nano RX
Radiomaster TX16S Max AG01 Gimbals
Caddx Vista Air Unit
DJI FPV V2 Goggles (Axis HD II patch w/ TrueRC Singularities)
R-Line Tattu V5.0 1400mah 150c 6s Lipos
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I like the SF5 split and SF5. The way they give you 2 caps and the way the stack hardware mounts is DOPE. The camera plate is slick af. They did well
I couldn't fit the 2 caps in the split deck frame sadly
Good job my friend on getting them as a sponsor. I avidly have been looking at that frame and also run the apex. My deciding factor was ease of access.
My favorite feature has got to be those washers for the tpu. And the sleeve over the 2mm stack screw. If I had to pick my next frame to build it would Def be this one. Keep up the great work my friend.
As someone that's starting their FPV journey I really appreciate videos and content creators like this and you that take the time to explain everything out in detail. Even for myself not having all the FPV knowledge I was able to follow along and understand the comparisons between these frames and what makes the Siren F5 better. I am certainly a fan of Quadmula now, I really appreciate when a company takes the time to develop a great product, and it really show in this video just how much better they are in comparison to the ImpulseRC Apex.
Thank you and I appreciate the comment. To be fair to the Apex, it's a design that really did revolutionize the standard for freestyle frames and it deserves that respect. I'm excited to see if ImpulseRC has something more updated and modern in the works.
The quadmula frame is not better it's more based on what you prioritise. It will be better for some people and worse for others
The Siren F5 Split looks awsome for exactly everything you pointed out: the carbon, the locking mechanism, the spacers, the polyvalence, the weight, ...
This man is the most helpful guy ever, always reliable and has good knowledge, for sure recommend to follow his videos to learn about fpv and tuning !
I don’t have this frame but would be interesting to try it out one day ! I know it has not much to do with performance but the looks of these frames are amazing, personnaly would love to try the Siren R5 for racing :D
I'm actually wanting to try racing myself. I've been waiting for HDzero's new goggles.
The SIREN F5 split looks sweet! Thanks for the review. I think I would honestly most appreciate the fact that the screw holes don't strip. That has been a massive issue for me and would be awesome to not have to worry about.
Great info on the frame, I really like the locking aspect of the arms (similar to another one of my frames). Really increases rigidity. Flush hardware is also a plus!
Great comprehensive video! The quadmula looks tough as nails. If I tried one next it would be that for sure.
Been curious about this frame. Been eyeing it for a bit now
Yo bro! Awesome awesome review on these frames. Informative n no BS. Been looking at this awhile now coz the weight matches my frame of choice, the sabotagerc Dingo. But after some bashing the arms tend to loosen up badly. This tho, looks rigid AF and the arms are secured nicely. Love the weight and the sleek design. COG is low just how i like it too. Keep at it brother! Looking forward to more reviews and rips from you. And congrats again on the sponsorship my man! 🤜🏾🤛🏾
Been waiting for something new, bout’ time, lol! Durability is always a plus and the weight. Want to try the Ummagami quad! Looks pretty interesting.
Nice video. The Siren F5 Split looks great 💯😎
We have our winners! Congratulations to Lord FPV and GloriousQauds!
Can't wait to try that quadmula frame and nice video. 🙂
Just ordered the Siren F5 Split. I have a new Mr. Steele Apex DC 5" build that I haven't flown yet due to the weather. Can't wait to get both in the air. I appreciate the info.
Siren F5 for sure. All the thought that went into arm mounting and hardware is a huge win👌🏼
I like the design overall. My favorite feature is the better style carbon weave. Good luck everyone!
I like the fact that you can use up to 5.5" props and I'm lovin the wide stance great video!
Siren F5 Split, love the cam mounting plate and them SP3 Spacers
Great video, very fair comparison👍
Definitely would like to try the siren quadmula thanks for the opportunity boss 🙏💯
I really like the F5 Split for the dual bottom plate. I’ve been running only Source One V4s for the cost and simplicity but the F5 split seems like it’s totally worth the upgrade. Nice video!
Great review and comparison! best feature is cam mount and thise slick screw mounts. Siren split frame looks 🔥!
Siren F5 Split. The design is the feature that stands out the most and what I'm excited about.
I like the design of the arms and the quality of the carbon fiber used. Thxs
the standout feature of the Siren F5 Split is honestly the sleek design and the tremendous amount of thought that has gone into every design decision
Siren F5 split looks very cool, I really like the C lock design on the arms
Definitely going to look into the Siren F5 Split. It’s a durable light weight! The switchable cam plate’s pretty nifty too.
I love the idea of 1 bolt arm design as well as the fpv camera mount. I use both the nebula pro and dji cam so it’s very versatile. I would love to try out the siren!
The Siren F5 Split really looks interesting. I might have an extra air unit laying somewhere. 😎 And those profile spacers are on my wishlist now 👍
the SF5 split is the go, love the look of the skids and stack mount
Very interested in the mini split. I dig the way the arms attach.
Siren f5 looks good been lookn for new frame I got 2 kenfpv frames and was disappointed in tha quality thanks for pointing everything out
Great locking style with tha arms 💪
I'm all about that quality and it's crazy how much of a difference it makes. The precision is insanely clean on Quadmula frames. You can feel it in your finger tips.
Siren F5 split is amazing,like the mount for gopro and alot of cpace.Thanks for comparison and good luck everyone
You won, bro. HMU on instagram @murdersfpv that way I can get your details.
@@MurdersFPVWhat??really?woow,I'll send you a message on insta.. woow,thanks a lot :)
Love the fact they have better quality carbon and chamfered edges on the Siren F5 Split.
looks like I might try this next bro gresat video
I'm very new to fpv but the quadmula frame is catching my eye. Thanks for doing the giveaway.
No problem, bro! The whole reason I do what I do with this channel is to share FPV with the world in hopes of growing the hobby and community. There are so many good people who are extremely generous and excited to get new people into it and to me that's what it's all about.
If you want a chance to win make sure you drop your favorite Quadmula feature and which frame you're interested in. 😉
I'm excited to try the F5 Split. The screw solution should definitely help.
Whoa.. i really like the SF5 Split and the two cap setup. Been struggling to get two caps in my Apex.
I managed to do it once behind the camera by flipping the ESC. It was extremely tight and the camera was never able to move from where it was. 😜
I particularly like the facer that the design is focused on durability and weight.
The siren f5 is probably the one I would want most
The easy arm changes,the epic 3d prints and the attention to detail 👌
I am definitely going to be looking at getting a couple of these frames 😍
Love your videos
Keep the amazing content coming 😎
Thank you so much! I genuinely enjoy putting out as much useful info as I can to help all the homies have as much fun as possible. 😁
I’ve got a F5 split on the way right now from Quadmula and will be installing an 03 air unit, speedybee f7 stack and Rcinpower wasp 2020kv motors. I have too many quads already but was intrigued enough by this frame to build another one!
Awesome to hear that, bro. You won't be disappointed.
@@MurdersFPV I just completed mine, but with T-Motor F60 Pro V-LV 2020kv motors instead of the wasps. With no GoPro mount, it clocks in at 403 grams without a battery. I’ll fly it tomorrow, it’s getting dark here. 😀
Loved the low resonance graphs and coming from the Apex, I would love to try QUADMULA's Siren which is as quiet as the Apex. Thanks Mate keep well. Hopefully some stores in Australia manage to get their hands on this amazing frame.
you have them anywhere in aus?
@@notyet_fpv not that I know of
@@ClareFPV if you find them let know bro, need Them😂
I’m going to basically follow your build. I didn’t mean to but got all almost the same electronics (diatone not t motor but still) excited to get this built! Going to put the fpv cycle imperials on it 😊
That's going to be a very smooth quad. 🔥
I like the type of carbon that is used in that frame and its design of it. SIREN F5 SPLIT is my favorite frame from Quadmula selection
Good quality carbon makes a huge difference. 😁
Oh yeah, I guess I should mention what my favourite feature of the Siren is - I only fly the Apex and I love it, but for the price I wish it had that nicely finished carbon like the Quadmula, for that finishing touch 😉👍
Nice review and frame.
I would transfer everything over from a GEPRC crocodile 5, as it has some flaws especially where the fc is concerned with only the single option for mounting.
Cheers.
Great video, I like how you compared it to the Apex I want to try and fit a full sized air unit in one good info
Every Quadmula frame has space for any VTX on the market which is really awesome and versatile. Definitely something that is going to be extremely important in the very near future. 😉
good luck yall 🤟👽
Yoo the SIREN F5 split looks awesome, the smaller frame hight looks really nice! Would love to finally change out my martian.
The Siren F5 looks really good. 👌 I would choose this one. ❤
questo telaio è un prodotto favoloso siamo vicini alla perfezione
I must admit both the apex and siren look like great frames and with the history of the apex must be great but would love to try the siren f5 split
Thanks For the review , im Sold. Im also pretty new and since I want to build my own drone I will use this frame along the extra stack I got from a geprc mark5. And use the vista from my babyhawk. Since I’m using the geprc stack should I also use their tube for the mark5 on this frame ? And buy the same motors that I use on my mark5?
Good stuff man, quality content, super helpful as always 👍
I completely understand you on the OCD front 😆, it gets so bad that I fear for crashing my quads because they need to look perfect and clean, which is not a good thing when you are flying freestyle FPV, and something that I constantly need to remind myself of. Quads aren't formula 1 cars, they're more like rally cars, and I'm getting better, slowly letting go and just trying to go out and fly. If I crash then I crash, it's the only way that I'll get better.
SIREN F5 split , i like the locking mechanism and of course lighter weight
I must say the quadmula frames, look way much neater and clean built. I have been hearing AA lot about the durability. Definitely look at these frames in the near future. I am in RSA not sure if we have these here. Great review thank you
Might pick one up.
If you do, I really want to know what you think. 💪
Easy replacing the arms is always good, think it's fair to play it's what we will break the most. Not in for the giveaway, live far away and the postage will be to much but appreciate your work😉
Appreciate the support, bro!
SIREN F5 split nice design🙃💯👌👍
Stack mounting hardware with sleeving seems like an impressive concept!
It does a lot for reducing vibration and making this quad easier to tune.
Great
Hey bro awesome vid! I only didnt get the carbon layout point you mentioned. i do unerstan how the carbon is layed out usually 90 deg offset between each layer like in apex. how is it layed out in the siren, you just mentioned the word lattice but i didnt get what that meant in terms of the carbon layout pattern, is it 45 deg offset?
That’s a deep question, but the truth is all Siren series structures are design base on race drone, that’s why the Siren is strong and light enough. am I telling the truth? Just give it a shot! you won’t regret it!
Yoo you're starting a Giveaway today too?! I just started mine for the DJI FPV! All thanks to your DJI Avata upgrade video ;)
I still love my DJI FPV drone. Planning on taking it out this weekend. 😁
the SF5 looks nice with the "edged" carbon and the screw holes don't strip. i want one.. just snapped my source one v4 arm
Awesome review! Is there anywhere I can buy that session mount?
The homie Mark does amazing prints and he has access to the STLs.
facebook.com/mark.mccollum.549?mibextid=ZbWKwL
My favorite feature is that it can mount any vtx, that’s awesome
It's crazy how convenient that is, especially these days.
Favorite aspect is the build quality and ease of build (or easy for some haha)
i just had to repair my apex, and was looking hard at the siren f5 split. after seeing your review, i really wanted to try it, the main thing for me is the price. Due to import fees the price for the frame goes up to 135 $usd, which is just a little too much.
maybe when the frame comes to EU ill try it out.
or if I am lucky enough to win one :D
The frame looks great, and the ability to go to a little bigger props, would be amazing.
as i use a heavier gopro (hero9) it would be awesome to go to the gemfan 5236 again. but unfortunately they dont fit the apex frame.
Btw, you have really been killing it with your videos!.
Damn import tax 😬
The Gemfan 5236 are great props for a solid cinematic rig. I was actually planning on gutting my current "cinematic" FPV drone (ApexHD) and building another Siren F5 Split for that purpose. Now that you pointed out using the Gemfan props I'm even more excited for that. 💪
Thank you, bro and I've always appreciated your support.
I'm interested in the quadmula siren F5 to see how it will hold up to the Nevada desert weather. I'm looking for durability for my first build.
Had to do another comment because I forgot to specify the frame and features lol.
Would definitely love to learn and build my first quad!
Here's a build video I put together for this exact quad.
czcams.com/video/UWkiS1GjhBI/video.html
Currently the most important thing for me is to ability to install HDZero Freestyle VTX on 5" frame beacue not every frame is capable of 👍
are the STL files available for those session mounts?
Hit me up on Instagram @murdersfpv
Awesome video id love to try out the Siren F5 split! Love the arm swap simplicity and the flush top mounting bolts on the top plate! Ive lost two batteries to top plate screws 😅 you’d think button head screws wouldnt do any damage to a battery but they definitely can lol
You know what's funny, I never really thought about that in the past but I flew my OG iFlight Cidora a couple weeks ago and I ended up killing a cell on one of my "newish" Tattu R-Line V5.0 1200mah packs. Trying to see if I can get a warranty replacement from GensAce.
@@MurdersFPV All bad 🤦🏻♂️ lol but I guess its the name of the game in this hobby
In your opinion what makes the siren F5 mini a viable option over the regular F5? Why would you choose one over the other. I'm about to pull the trigger on the siren f5 split. And I'm wondering if I should go with the mini. I run Tmotor exclusively myself. No sponsor tho
So the thing I enjoy most about the Mini vs the Standard is the fact that it is slightly smaller and lighter. I use mine for more proximity/flow style as opposed to my normal SF5 Split for bigger open field/Sbang flying. Both can do extremely well in both areas but ultimately if you are the Mr Steele style of pilot I'd recommend the Mini. It's extremely nimble. Just be advised that the Mini only works with 20x20 stacks and the normal SF5 Split is for 30x30 stacks.
@@MurdersFPV I run the tmotor mini F7 on multiple quads. So I love that stack. I fly in Alabama. Abandoned structures and landscape surfing is my style. Nothing epic like Colorado or Montana. Creeks and bluffs and the occasional abandoned factory. Not big into Sbang or flippy flops. I love the flowing landscape surfing type of freestyle. Im also all about 4s. Think i might go with the mini.
Looks like an awesome Lil frame as soon as the fpv shops hear in oz have them I'll definitely do a build. How did the frame perform when doing snapper sbang moves I noticed the quadmula isn't true x like the apex
The Apex isn't a true X design. It's squashed just like the Quadmula frames.
I used this exact quad for this Sbang video so I'd say it flies pretty great for Juicy Sbang Sbang. 😁
czcams.com/video/2DepzalFOBA/video.html
@@MurdersFPV I saw that rippies entry that was an awesome rip cool thanks for the info I didn't know that about the apex.
What filter and pid tuning guide do you recommend? I never tuned my quad but I would love to get the best out of my quadmula frames
So I was going to make a tuning guide for Betaflight 4.4 but Chris Rosser dropped his tuning video and it's the exact same method I use to tune my quads. I learned from watching hours of Chris Rosser, Mark Spatz (UAV Tech), and the PID Toolbox CZcams channel and Chris honestly nailed it in this one below.
czcams.com/video/sNAV4gx_gBY/video.html
@@MurdersFPV thank you! I check it out…do you have any idea how Alex vanover or other freestyle pilots mount their antenna? It seems like they use a single UfL antenna deeply stuck in a 3D print) that if you crash your antennas they don’t bend they don’t break….do you have any idea if I can get a 3D print for the quadmula frame? I also don’t really know what kind of antenna they actually use for the o3…I don’t like the long antennas anymore they always break….
@@FreshPanda97 O3 antenna.
drive.google.com/file/d/1NIcjzNWsJ9rP3fX21vIilOORXsFc6qRt/view?usp=drivesdk
Vista antenna
drive.google.com/file/d/1mMsqU8BrW8l3t-PsI5J2JfD3kj2lXx_v/view?usp=drivesdk
You clip the plastic tube portion of the antenna away to the desired length. Be careful not to cut the antenna wire inside.
@@MurdersFPV thank you so much! But be honest I know you get sponsored by quadmula, but I am not sure because the mini has 20x20 stack that is something I don’t really like…if this would not be the thing I would go with the quadmula but I think I probably stick to the apex again…. Seems more reliable in hard bando crashes
There is a reason why that Apex is so good, split bottom plate, any improvement in design should start from there.
Right, just like the Siren F5 Split.
3:00 I haven’t broken anything. Do you break motors?
Where can I find a session mount like these or better?
Siren F5 Session mount:
drive.google.com/file/d/1CLYBIwPO-FPSVIzZrR0JZd0mri80r6qO/view?usp=drivesdk
Siren F5 Mini Session mount
drive.google.com/file/d/1lwSGZRYBKjwK7i4SLoLGNmFHiX3prdg2/view?usp=drivesdk
My community Google drive:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1z3__ksROZxzBgrc758uu9GftnuuaIUop
So will the f5 split fit 30x30 , because I'm seeing f5. F5 split. And mini. I want to just make sure I get the smallest wheelbase for 5" for 30x30. For an Ultra.
The SF5 Normal and Split will both do 30x30 stacks. Any "Mini" version will only do 20x20 stacks. They make a Normal and Split version of the Mini as well.
@@MurdersFPV thanks bro
While the Siren F5 Split is sexier and has lower COG with some 30x30 stacks (*cough*speedybee*cough*) 20 mm standoff height will be a tough fit. I'd go with Siren F5. Thanks for the giveaway
You won, bro. HMU on instagram @murdersfpv that way I can get your details.
@@MurdersFPV oh my god maan thank you so much!🤘 I can't believe that I ve won ☺️
Will the SF5 Split take an O3 Unit and camera?
Yes. Make sure to choose the O3 as your VTX option when ordering.
I like the caps so you don't squash the TPU parts. I like the full sized split frame.
For the f5 split
I read somewhere it can run 5.5” have u tried that out? (Edit)
…never mind u just said it lol
How about comparing with the vega frame?
Intrested in siren f5 split
My favorite aspect of the Vega frame was the momentum generated by it and honestly the Quadmula feels extremely fast and the momentum is wild.
1. Less expensive
2. Better resonance
3. Easier repairs
4. Better quality hardware
Those are the positives in my book.
@@MurdersFPV bought one on your recommendations.. might buy a siren if i dont hit jackpot.
Yea vega is quite expensive
@@tomblanckaert6055 I love Fred and his contribution to the hobby so I'm always going to be a huge supporter of Vega.
Apex ftw
Siren F5 Split just seems superior in many ways, but the C-lock is a stand-out feature for an arm-breaking noobie like me. Although, hopefully it may not be the most used feature if the frame is as durable as you say ;)
The quality carbon mixed with the lighter average weight, which translates into less inertial force on impact, really makes a difference when it comes to breaks. Nothing is bullet proof of course but I've had an excellent experience considering how hard I've sent this quad. I remember the specific moment where I knew I was going to ask them about being a team pilot was when I did a Matty flip at a school and smacked hard af into the pavement ass end first and I just knew something was going to be broken. I was shocked to find the quad was fine and it just kept flying.
I would love to build my first quad with the siren
I recommend your videos to a lot of people the tune you gave out on the DJI fpv is freaking amazing I always recommend it to people
Man, u can start building and selling quads👌🏾 luap fpv
Where could I get that session mount?
Siren F5 STLs
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sYE2FQRNXlOZ14PeYM_QVSNLWed18sly
Siren F5 Mini STLs
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Hz400G3KfedFK-7bemUinM4qdOv44JZt
@@MurdersFPV Thanks man, flipping over to digital, just decided on the Siren stoked to get it in the air
@@reboot110 you're very welcome, bro. Have fun.
To me the curved edges on the carbon fiber is a really big deal. The double-sided camera plates is genius. It should be the standard On all frames. If you’re in a pinch and need to swap out cameras, from another quad all the more easier to do so. I’m really that.👍
I actually had this exact situation happen to me a couple weeks ago. I broke the OG DJI camera on a previous quad and all I had was a Nebula Pro. I had to awkwardly "make" longer screws to hold it by cutting some non camera plate screws with my dykes. It was dumb and the camera kept slipping on any impact, even landing. 😒
That container it comes in looks like a chamois tube lol. Maybe it’s because it’s so clean lol.
Hah! I see it. 😜
Can we get that session Mount🤞💪😃
Quadmula is working on some really sick Session one piece designs. I'm super excited for the rumored GoPro Session 6. I forced Quadmula to design a one piece mount. I currently have one for the Siren F5 Split Mini now. 😁
Apex is more heavy but 0,5 more carbon fiber...i would like have one of thats frames 😎
aahh I liked how there is a 3 inch but no 3 inch :( If I win I want the 3 inch lol
Definitely stay tuned. 😉
So disappointed quadmula is not shipping here in Asia where in fact it's a Taiwan company. This is really weird.
Hi would like to make me fpv freedom
the outside layer of carbon fiber does not determine the strength.. im not sure where you heard that but its not true. when carbon fiber sheets are resined , they alternate the sheets for strength. most carbon they use for quads are a double weave alternating so the top layer direction does not matter at all. Also the carbon fiber sheets that impulse RC gets are single weave, which is stronger then the double weave which is what the Quadmula is using. just saying bro. you said in the beginning of the video that you like to prove things so im just keeping it honest.
That's cool that you think that. Having broken several Apex arms the exact same way I showed in this video and having Quadmula's arms stand up to more severe crashes despite being only 5mm your statement is complete bullshit. Feel free to ask anyone who has tried Quadmula frames if you don't believe me. Not sure where you even got the idea that I said "the outside layer determines the strength" but don't put words in my mouth.
Apex have a shitty armguard. And worst packaging..