The Sad Current State of Cartoon Network
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- the sad current state of cartoon network
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0:00 Intro
1:09 HBO Max's Launch
5:07 Tom Ascheim
7:38 Discovery Buys Out Warner Bros
10:29 Micheal Ouwleen
11:44 Cartoon Network Studio's Shutdown
13:05 Cartoon Networks 30th Anniversary
14:15 [adult swim]'s gains
17:28 Checkered Past
19:52 Upcoming Programming
25:01 The Future
27:31 Outro
the 5 and 6 p.m. weekday hours will initially air a nostalgia-oriented sub-block titled "checkered past". the block will air reruns of cartoon network original series, with a focus on Cartoon Cartoons such as ed, edd n eddy, courage the cowardly dog and the grim adventures of billy & mandy.
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Intro: All I Am by Dyalla
HBO Max's Launch: Fast and Run by Nico Staf
Tom Ascheim: Urban Groove by Hanu Dixit
Discovery Buys Out Warner Bros: Sharp Edges by half.cool
David Zaslav Rampage: Sharp by Jeremy Korpas
Micheal Ouwleen: Ringside by Dyalla
Cartoon Network Studio's Shutdown: Back Home by Coyote Hearing
[adult swim]'s gains: Coast by Anno Domini Beats
Checkered Past: Introspective Taal by Aakash Gandhi
Upcoming Programming/The Future: Lawrence by TrackTribe
Outro: All I Am by Dyalla
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Adult Swim is carrying Cartoon Network
Cartoon Network is already dead when it was carried by Adult swim
Unfortunately, yeah.
@@JoyofCrimeArt Cartoon Network was actually #1 in 2012
And the sad thing is they pay them less then the cartoon network people. And whatever funds they have left over from adult swim goes to toonami.
It was carrying Cartoon Network. Now it's eating Cartoon Network alive.
Cartoon Network pretty much killed themselves through a series of mistakes and it's probably too late for them to turn back at this point. As sad as a world without CN may seem, at this point, I think the world would be better off without it as modern CN remains an empty shell of what it once was in the 90s and 2000s.
It’s okay, Israel sorta still has its equivalent to CN & people can make indie websites to replace it.
yeah
Early 2010s weren't that bad for cartoon network
And 2010s
TV cable as a whole is dead, the rise of streaming, CZcams, alternative bigger sources there’s no point in having cable tv if you can pay the same amount of money to stream better.
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Adult Swim completely took over Cartoon Network at some point within my lifetime. Kids don't really watch TV unless they're using it to watch shows and movies on streaming services after all! 🤷
its slowly getting there you know, adult swim has slowly moved in and taken an hour at a time from it.
@@neromauritzen6170because it already has an established audience that adult swim can take advantage of.
They are all here on CZcams.
@@neromauritzen6170The channel would just become Adult Swim.
@@neromauritzen6170 The channel is already there. It would just be Adult Swim all day. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, this is what I understand the original comment is saying.
Adult Swim is doing more to restore the magic and charm of Cartoon Network than Cartoon Network themselves.
Edit: 259 likes? I never thought that I'd get that much.
Thats whats killing cartoon network, its becoming more and more adult swim. It seems to be punting for a short term gain while hurting their long term health. Adult swim is great but its presentation is pretty strictly adults only, adult swim literally means no kids in the pool. It won't move forward and just get stuck chasing the same generation instead of growing and evolving into new eras
@@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidlyI wish the Adult Swim Staff would take over Cartoon Network
Y'know, I actually kinda like the decision to put unicorn warriors and my adventures with superman on adult swim. It helps set the standard that adults should be able to enjoy animation without it needing gratuitous cussing, blood, or sex in it, and I like that! Right now "adult" animation is just about the most immature thing on tv, and only really appeals to edgy tweens imo
This!
Nuh uh
@@TygerHillis so true
@@TygerHillisfax
It's really scary to think we might soon live in a world without CN, it's a huge part of my childhood and my biggest inspiration.
I hope they can come back from the brink just once more.
Agreed.
It's really kind of sad to hear about the possibility of a future without Cartoon Network, but all great things have an end.
God, a world without CN sounds like a dystopia to me.
We already have been
Same bruh.
You are spot on. I wish more people spoke about how badly CN has fallen from glory.
Thanks! I'm glad you liked the video.
@@JoyofCrimeArtDavid Zaslav is king of Warner Bros. Discovery, Teen Titans GO! Is still ruling the channel with an iron fist even after 10 years, the white Cartoon Network Studios Building is gonna be torn down, & SAG-AFTRA & WGA are on strike!
@@teaganjeras156tbf cn has been airing gumball way more than ttg lately
Time to bring back CN Real. And this time, let’s be more open minded and supportive.
@@onlyone23km pcp is one helluva drug.
I've been DREADING this since 2014 when the channel became almost fully reliant on Teen Titans GO!, a show that largely feels like Peppa Pig for older children! As a long time Cartoon Network fan, I find it DEPRESSING that this channel has regressed as much as it has! Even in their worst years, in bringing us shit like Squirrel Boy and My Gym Partner's A Monkey, they were still making an effort to give us new content on a regular basis! Cartoon Network gave us classics like Cow & Chicken, Johnny Bravo, The Powerpuff Girls, Courage The Cowardly Dog, Codename Kids Next Door and many more! Also, I don't care how difficult it would be to do so today, I feel we need more reruns of classics kids shows, after all, reruns of classic cartoons is why Cartoon Network was launched in the first place! Before it's too late, Cartoon Network NEED to be rebooted! It is WAY past time they came to their senses, start pumping out new original shows and give us more reruns of not just in-house shows but also the classic HB and WB stuff they aired until the mid-2000s!
This is an example why monopolies cannot exist. We need diverse companies for everything, including entertainment. You can't just simply buy your competition
Monopolies disrupt the balance.
Who else can afford to make billion dollar movies?
@@nuance9000 Partially true, but at the same time, those people who buy everything up usually end up altering or "neutering" the content they bought out until they drive it into the ground anyway. While I believe that if a show is successful, the creators should try to keep it away from the hands of those people tossing $$$ around, the world is run by that $$$...so the pride of creating something successful and keeping it "pure" to its style is often ignored so they can make more, even if it means the death of the content.
Theres no monopolies in entertainment lol. Infinite more entertainment today than 30 years ago
@@alexkrasnic3850 in a sense, sure. though i think anyone would love to bring up examples like Marvel or Lucasfilms not being their own thing anymore, so if you want a good quality Hero or Space Wizard movie…only one place you can technically get them from…but people would also argue that they aren’t quite the same quality as when they were their own thing. no true monopoly exists, but that’s just because all the entertainment worth grabbing has been grabbed up and nobody cares about the floundering franchises and whatnot. Til something better comes along and is the new grabbing target, at least.
This is a little depressing to me because I really did grow up watching Cartoon Network. Most of my favorite cartoons came from CN alone. It kind of sucks that they're not really doing good nowadays.
Adult Swim just took over Cartoon Network itself.
@@ThespeedrapProbably they’re lowest point since the Depressing “Synder CN Real” era of 2008.
After Regular Show, Adventure Time, Gumball and Steven Universe ended CN completely fell off bcz those were the only 4 reasons people were still watching. After those shows were finished it was over, GGs for the network.
And no shows after could compete because they went babies, reboots, dumbed down and oversimplified shows
It’s still really bad that only 4 shows were keeping it relevant at the time…. IMO, at least
Let’s be honest, Cartoon Network is Cartoon Network in name and name alone. Adult Swim is where the real soul of Cartoon Network is.
Plus, while CN Studios are gone, William Street is still there, the original CN Studios. The studio that birthed CN originals in general with Space Ghost Coast to Coast
Had no idea William Street was the og hahah the countless damn times I've seen it at the end of athf
@@redcherry8137 That building in William Street's logo is from Space Ghost Coast to Coast which was their first show. Hell it wasn't until Adult Swim formed that they called themselves William Street, they called themselves Ghost Planet Industries back in the 90s.
I can actually explain the reasoning behind Checkered Past being on Adult Swim rather than CN, and it's pretty simple.
Technically, CN and AS are separate companies sharing the same channel, owned by the same parent company. AS did it because they knew the adult demographic would enjoy it and it's safer for the kids who tune into CN. AS was overall just more thoughtful and creative with the scheduling where as CN would've probably dumped extra hours of Teen Titans Go
honestly, it's dead, it died when they stopped rerunning old shows and the shows that they pushed them back into popularity again, and stopped with acquired shows.
not to mention that Christina Miller had ruined it since 2014 up till she left.
I was just thinking this. I miss the creativity of the mid and late 2000s with Chowder, Camp Lazlo and Kids Next Door. But all eras of Cartoon Network were awesome. Even the early and mid 2010s with Gravity falls and Adventure Time.
Gravity falls is not from cartoon network it's from disney channel/disney-XD
They did kinda fall off a little bit in the 2010s with CN real
I miss old cartoon network. When total drama was popular, edd ed n eddy, fosters home, and some of those shows you mentioned.
I miss old cartoon network. When total drama was popular, edd ed n eddy, fosters home, and some of those shows you mentioned.
@@Cutiepie0111 That was 2009, the 2010s were when they bounced back with Regular Show, Adventure Time, Steven Universe and Gumball
I feel like a lot of this is cable dying rapidly. I don't really think people hate cable, I think it's just way too expensive for Millenials and Zellenials. I LIKED cable. I liked that the ads were at least different, generic, actual useful household items rather than the freakish same 5 targeted ads over and over. It's just WAY too expensive at over $100 for cable.
Or max is not doing it justice
People just don't watch TV anymore it's all just trying to survival.
@@Thespeedrap so why is max doing so shit domestically and have to relay on international support to keep it afloat?
Cable is also 100$ AND still shows you adverts.
It's a bigger scam than Live Streaming
@imselfaware419 yeah but you get a huge amount of channels, and if you don't want to see ads you can just change the channel. It's not as easy with streaming to do that
I will forever be team Cartoon Network but im afraid the channel wont be around within the next 5 years or so. Most of us that Checkerd Past is catered too is the last of a generation who would come home from school and actually sit and watch tv. There was no streaming platforms, big social media booms, touch screen devices (besides the Nintendo DS) or anything of that nature. Cable TV was king back then.
Kids who was born in the late 90s and grew up in the early 2000s was the last of that "prehistoric" generation. The current generation are born with the technology that consist of smart phones, streaming platforms, and vast social media to scroll through. Cartoonito is geared to pre schoolers and young kids who may have parents (from our generation) who choose to keep things old fashioned. Most of us are in the beginning stages of adult hood.
The shows that we grew up with is either being aired on adult swim, streaming where we fan afford it as adults, or they are being renewed or rebooted in ways that will allow us to relate to. Look at icarly, and fiona and cake, those shows are tv 14 and are meants to be for the ones who grew up watching it. Same thing with the Samurai Jack final season.
I think Cartoon Network realizes that the kids who grew up during their prime years are grown. We were their prime audience. We were their market and they know that the kids and teens of today caters to a vast source of media. Weather thats youtube kids, 60 second tiktoks, anime, or Netflix
I would even say that early-mid 2000s/mid 1990s kids are the last generation to have both TV *and* computers, where late 2000s kids just entirely subsist on computers and streaming now.
As a mid 2000s baby, even those of us born between 2003 - 2006 have memories of sitting down to actually watch TV. Hell, my family still has cable to this day and I still sit down to actually watch TV, especially when I know a show I like is currently on or will be on soon.
@@eatatjoes6751 You are speaking nothing but the truth. I know people who grew up in 90s is so quick to call us "zoomers". I remember growing up, in school we didn't have digital boards, and even computers to type essays. The tvs we watched movies on still had VHS attached to it. The media we were shown was media from the 80s, 90s, and if we are lucky, the early 2000s. We were on the cusps, and by the time we got into our teens, that's when technology started to boom
@@lovelydolltime8006 You are right! Half of me still prefer cable and physical media. Everything is on digital or streaming, and it's not up to us weather the content stay or go. I would definitely say anyone who was born after 2008, the majority of them grew up with the new technology, as they are just about the start of a new generation.
@@lovelydolltime8006 Also most times it depends on our upbringing like you said. My parents aren't tech savvy like the next ones. They still have cable like yours, few streaming apps, smart phones, and that's about it. You know what they say, you can't miss anything that you don't have.
Its really sad that CN turned from a channel that had great shows in the 90s and early 2000s that was special in our childhood to a channel thats a shell of it's golden era
That's actually what's become of a lot of things in our world and culture.Same with Nickelodeon BET and MTV.
Chibification really IS killing CN
Based
Don't forget bland writing.
@@Degeneraristocracy6079
The same shit happened in the mid-late 00s
Great shows from the late 90s -early 00s ended and they had content now the shows from the early-mid 10s have ended and they have no content nobody learned
@jamalwalker What platform hasn't been ruined by blind writing?
I mean, I still can't tell who's supposed to be the good guy in a wrestling match and that was back in '93.
"Edit": Blind (that was unintentionally hilarious.)
Honestly, I wouldn't blame THAT for killing CN, but I do feel like the mid 2010s CalArts style is overrated.
You got to mention how dirty Villainous was done. First aired in 2021 (only in one part of the world) on Max exclusively then not dubbed until 2023. But the real problem is that it is straight up finished, but unable to release the second half till max says so.
Edit: sub didn't even come out till much later so even VPN to watch it didn't really work. I think it was around when the dub was released but I could be off
I know they’re really letting this show to die in the warehouse
@@BlueBlazeKing For real they are trying with books/comics to keep the series afloat but they are held back by MAX who won't release it because...
years ago, i remember being hyped for Villainous and Infinity Train to start airing on CN
i stopped following news for both shows bc of prolonged radio silence* (and being busy with life's bullshittery); so i didn't know they've been trapped on a streaming service all this time... damn
*or maybe i just wasn't paying enough attention these past 7 years, i dunno... but i really don't remember seeing any big marketing for either show
Villainous was supposed to be out long ago and they *knew* how big the fan base was online. And considering the show was originally done English first they could have had it right out of the gate. But no. They had to change it to Spanish first, then dub it, then hold back the dub. 😒
At least I can understand Spanish, I guess. Pirate time. 🏴☠️
Being a CN fan this past year and onward has been nothing but pure depression.
I feel like the moment Unicorn jumped to Adult Swim was the moment all hope was lost. For me, I guess.
yup, pretty much all their shows that were worth looking forward to arent gonna be on CN anymore but adult swim and hbo max
I have not watched Cartoon Network's main channel since late 2017, which was when Sonic Boom ended. By that time, Christina Miller had turned Cartoon Network into a dumping ground for Toddler Titans reruns. She's not with the channel anymore, having stepped down in late 2019, but she still left some nasty scars in her wake.
This is what happens when you think TTG would be your next big thing.
Well, I mean, it was a big hit for a while tbh. Thing is though, CN made the mistake of thinking it was their answer to SpongeBob, when TTG was mostly only popular with younger children and most episodes don't have a lot of lasting rewatch value. They changed the entire channel to just air more TTG constantly, at the expense of other, newer shows that could've had the opportunity to blossom if they were given a chance. And they obviously had no contingency plan for when TTG would start waning in popularity and all their other shows were cancelled.
Even over on the Nickelodeon end, SpongeBob and The Loud House are both getting stale because those are the only two shows that have been airing for years now. Meanwhile promising new shows like Glitch Techs, Making Fiends, Welcome to the Wayne, Harvey Beaks, or Rise of the TMNT get quietly cancelled and hidden away since they're not instant cash cows. Heck, they even treated Miraculous Ladybug poorly when it was on their channel, yet the show seemed to explode in popularity when Disney took it and treated it better. I look forward to whenever SpongeBob and Loud House both tank in ratings enough for Nickelodeon to realize they're not profitable anymore, if that ever happens
I'm not form the US so the situation might be different, but the last time I decided to watch CN (a few months ago) for nostalgia sake, the programming was like 4 hours of Teen Titans Go, then maybe Craig of the Creek/Gumball/We Bare Bears, and at night Steven Universe and Dragon Ball Z/Super. And this wasn't one day and that's it, it was the whole week. I hope things have changed at least a bit since then.
I just love that they’re showing old school Cartoon Network 5-7 after work every weekday
CN in the early 2000s was peak. I'm only sad I didn't have cable at home because we couldn't afford it, but when I went to visit my dad in Miami, both the sweltering temperatures and the allure of the unadulterated creativity in CN, particularly the Toonami and [as] blocks with their iconic bumps, along with the vintage cartoon blocks, were mesmerizing to young me. Sad to see that the generations after me will be just barely getting scraps, if anything, of those halcyon times.
I honestly wouldn't be surprised at this point if they just make Adult Swim 24/7 and push over any remaining Cartoon Network programming over to Boomerang.
I think they legally can’t make Adult Swim 24/7
@@Lunapink93 Why not?
@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Tv Networks are not allowed to show Adult programming during morning/ evening hours. It’s why shows like Family Guy and South Park air at night.
@@Lunapink93 That's not entirely true (at least in the United States). Broadcast channels (like on antenna, such as FOX/CBS/ABC) can only broadcast mature content between primetime/evening up until 6 AM. However, this rule does not apply to cable channels such as Cartoon Network/AS, Comedy Central, FXX, MTV, and TBS. I've seen Futurama air at like 11 AM and South Park on during noontime before. A couple weeks ago, they were airing The Simpsons Movie at 7 AM in the morning. King of the Hill also airs in the early afternoons on FXX. Even if this law were real, they could just air more mild programming in the daytime such as Home Movies or The Oblongs.
However in the UK, kids channels like Cartoon Network are strictly only for kids content, hence why Cartoon Network stations in Europe are 24/7 and Adult Swim is placed on other channels instead. In the UK, it's on E4 and FOX and in Germany it's on TNT.
Have no clue where you're getting your sources. My family still has cable and I practically wake up to Futurama and South Park, on Comedy Central. They can easily make a 24/7 AS if CC can get away with airing something like South Park during prime time hours.
I think the main problem I have with this Checkered Past thing isn't that it exists, it's that it feels arbitrary and kind of redundant unless you aren't a pirate because streaming services have completely screwed over the concept of event TV and, as evidenced by the few holdouts against the WGA strikes, fed into the toxic instant gratification and entitlement to others' hard work mindset by encouraging it to be rushed out on a near daily basis.
yeah because if you watch tv a movie for example every 5 minutes comes advertising this days make no fun to watch tv anymore so pirate pages became a huge thing
You've more or less explained why I wouldn't mind, and would actively prefer, NOT having streaming services exist.
That instant gratification bullshit is a jar Netflix shouldn't have opened and now it'll be a nuisance.
That’s a silly way to look at it, you are saying the whole channel Cartoon Network is redundant. The feeling I’ve gotten from coming home from work and watching my fav old shows without choosing the episode or what shows us the best
I’m guessing you don’t watch Adult Swim much. You don’t watch Adult Swim just for the shows. Their originals and rerun lineups are fantastic on their own, but what makes Adult Swim even more special is its presentation. You don’t watch Adult Swim just for one show, you’re in it for the long haul. Their schedules carefully crafted for variety, the bumpers and ads adding to the experience, to the point you can tell when it’s adult swim from the style of the bumpers.
The best example of this is their annual April Fools broadcasts where the entire night is a giant April Fools gag. From small stuff like subtle edits to the shows like adding fart sounds to animes, to airing the entire Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie while it was still in theaters (but in a small unwatchable window at the bottom of the screen,) to just straight up reviving Toonami.
When you watch Adult Swim, the entire broadcast is one giant show. Checkered Past just being one dish in this giant meal
Agreed
It's crazy how many good shows they have that they can use on their channel to bring in more views but yet they refuse to play them and instead play just a few shows over and over, they even play COCOMELON on their, COCOMELON! that's crazy.
CN's strategy is releasing the shows through various platforms. Example: CN aired Unicorn Warriors Eternal during ACME night (which is CN) after airing on AS, Toonami, and Max. So this makes sense.
I’m surprised that Cartoon Network is still on the air
No lie, I watched CN during the 30th anniversary because of the shows that aired during my childhood. I think those shows stopped airing again shortly afterwards which if true, is rather unfortunate.
I also wish they'd make more shows like Over the Garden Wall also. I genuinely enjoy cartoons like that, cartoons that have mature themes and bits of scary moments sprinkled into the plot. Granted, its nostalgia talking in my case, but I'm pretty sure many people want the older shows to return and continue to air, even if its closer to when Adult Swim starts airing
Over the Garden Wall could’ve started something really kino. CN tried to do another fall week show special, but iirc Long Live The Royals was just sorta trash, and wasn’t received that well, so the idea died there. I’m really curious if that concept would’ve continued if a better, more story oriented show like Infinity train had aired instead. Iirc, Infinty train had already been pitched to CN by then, so it could’ve happened.
Yeah I finally watched over the garden wall w my brother a few weeks ago and it was really good. A shame I never watched it until now, I remember just ignoring it when it aired :(
Most of the shows on checkered past used to be shown on Boomerang, before that channel was changed for the worse.
They even aired all the episodes of Pokemon from the first episode to the last episode of the Diamond and Pearl Saga between July 2011-July 2013.
Then you could catch up to the anime by watching the Black and White saga every Saturday morning on Cartoon Network at like 6am if I remember correctly lol
Carton network prime was between 2010-2017 they legit had everything then in 2018 they just decided to let it slowly die
@@jamalwalker Cartoon Network's prime was 1992 - 2009 in my opinion. Everything went downhill since then.
@@lovelydolltime8006 I have to disagree 05-09 cartoon network was just awful that line up my gym partners Monkey, Johnny Test, and Camp Lazlo nearly killed the network
Adventure time alone is better than anything they had from 04-09
Completely agree with your statement on Johnny Bravo at the end. The joke is that he's SUPPOSED to be creepy and that objectifies women, the show's not endorsing it. I also think it'd be cool if Checkered Past aired some more obscure CN stuff like Time Squad
Yes! Or Robot Jones.
I feel Johnny is more of a dork than a creep.
Infinity Train was such a great show and it's creator had worked hard to build up a world where he wanted to tell so many more stories.
It sucks that his dream was cut short because of shitty company drama.
I think that Cartoon Network should focus on bringing back the kid audience with shows that they would watch instead of ditching them for [adult swim].
FR unicorns and my adventures with Superman could’ve been perfect for that
once again, kids are watching streaming, and CZcams, as Teenagers and Adults now watch cable. kids are watching the internet and streaming as they kinda got sick of the same ol shows
Cartoon network is for kids
Cartoon network is for kids
@@TajmirTheRandomFan It really hurts knowing that kids today are growing up on mind-rotting shit like Cocomelon and Skibidi Toilet.
I’ve been saying this for months - at this point they should give Adult Swim the full 24 hour schedule. I really don’t see why not, especially considering they already have over half the schedule as is. All in all, it’s basically math to make it 24/7
I think the only reason they haven't done that yet is because most people (who watch AS) are at work during the day and usually come home around 5 or slightly before 5.
CN has been on life support since 2007 when they ended it's classics, and has been slowly dying until now. Gumball, Symbiotic Titan, Generator Rex, and we Bare Bears were the exceptions.
Since 2013*
@@kennethnero2011 For me I noticed it going down hill in 2007, especially when they did the 'Yes!' Era, but each to their own. I didn't have cable between 08-10, so I missed most of the 'real' and 'bobblehead?' Eras and seeing AS take Friday's was something that disgusted me.
When I got cable back, I was disturbed by the stupidity of the 'comady' shows and hardly saw and action shows at good time slots.
25:01 you did your best in this video hopefully people can see and understand that classical is our youth and now just wait and see what the future holds
If cartoon network stuck with making good shows instead of injecting identity politics they would be fine.
Blah blah blah
I agreed 💯👍
I miss the Adventure Time era. The big stories, the grand continuities…
That show has got some fucked up writers though. Pendleton Ward should've done better.
@@desuretard8654What the actual hell are you talking about? AT is the best of western animation. (Some others of the same era come close though)
@@Joseph_Drew_III idk luckily I stopped watching before the bee episode came out. Didn't even know about til a year ago. Wish I hadn't. I mean the Fiona and Cake thing was pretty weird too but I guess doing it once wasn't enough.
@@desuretard8654 Well then go back to watching Sprout channel or whatever.
@@desuretard8654 ...How are the writers fucked up though? You're not explaining?
Miss you Jim Samples, Network was never the same after you left.
Blame Ignignokt and Err.
@@ZeepTheWockycontext?
@@GabyGeorge1996 The Boston Mooninite bomb scare.
I actually want Betty Cohen back instead.
@@bringbackpbskidsgo4562Actually, Mike Lazzo helped put it on the map during the mid 90s. Betty Cohen was just the CEO. Lazzo was the Chief Operating Officer.
That's what happens when you rerun Teen Titans Go for two weeks straight.
As I’m in and from UK, Cartoon Network had already died over here. They’ve been airing too much reruns of Teen Titans Go, We Baby Bears, Gumball, Clarence and the reboot of Ben 10. They’ve taken Regular Show off from the schedule and replaced it with god knows what…I myself haven’t been watching Cartoon Network for over 5-6 years, but I’d remember watching the old shows that they used to around up from around 2007- early 2010. Shows that have never been heard of such as Storm Hawks, Chop Socky Chooks (a highly racist show), Skatoony, and of course not forgetting the classics: Ben 10, Fosters, Billy & Mandy, Courage and so on…as we’re in this nowadays and age, they don’t air those shows no more. They’ve all just been faded into obscurity.
And as for Boomerang…there’s just this one thing I really don’t understand. In Thailand, they’ve kept the 2004-2014 rebrand (but they’ve also styled it up a bit), but in the UK, they’ve made it look shit (in my opinion). Boomerang used to air their own original show called My Spy Family, but that’s been taken off the schedule since round 2013 I’m guessing…but yeah, Boomerang has aired shows such as Looney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, etc…but now they air really dumb and crappy shows such as Mush-Mush & The Mushables and all.
Honestly, I just don’t get it…but yeah, that’s just my opinion on CN’s change and also Boomerang’s too. I do hope one day, there will be a change to it and things would go back the way it used to be. 🙏
Cartoon network is aimed at Children aged 6 - 14
There was even CNX, which was a cross between Toonami and Adult Swim, and that only lasted a year until Turner decided that the mainstream entertainment market was too overcrowded and simply rebranded it as Toonami outright, and moved it to the kids sections.
And then the reason why Toonami died off in the UK - Live action shows. Big mistake for a channel that has “Toon” in its name…
@@IMEEntertainment oh right wow, interesting! :P I remember Toonami as well but I never really grew up watching any shows on their channel.
@@Rickyden3 You're probably in Poland, as the Polish FCC considers Cartoon Network as "for kids"
@@MisiaToons i am not in Poland and I am not a Poilsh
Should kids have good shows to watch? Absolutely.
But CN is just not providing them, and with modern TV standards, they can't. I would love if CN could be revived to a quality I experienced as a kid, but they can't have original PPG, Ben 10, Courage, etc. without locking them behind some special adult designation, then just get rid of it all. Kids TV is garbage these days. I know there's zero chance I'd let a kid watch anything other than a curated pirated list of shows.
I say Acme Night is holding CN back. Who in the right mind thinks Flubber, Inspector Gadget, Son of The Mask, Free Birds, The Emoji Movie and Swalloween Fall Spooktular quality films for kids anyway? They completely condescend to kids and make them out as complete idiots so they're not going to enjoy any of these movies. Anyone outside the family demographic won't get anything out of these movies, cause the plots are stupid and the comedy is beyond awful.
Cartoon Network was friggin fantastic in the 90s, pretty awsome in 2000s but 2010s and so on is when it went south and how
thay show tv shows that have no heart anymore the 90`s and 2000 cartoons nothing can beat them even not the new trash that bring out this days
2010s was still good, we had Regular Show, Adventure Time, and The Amazing World of Gumball. Those were last good shows in my opinion.
Nah 00s was lowkey ass past 04 a lot of mid
@@TheyWantMeGone69 don't forget Mystery Inc., Alien Force, Generator Rec, Clone Wars, etc I don't know what this old ass miggas talking about cn was goated from 2010-2017
I kinda wish Boomerang and Checkered Past would just merge. Let's be honest here. Checkered Past is a Boomerang Jr.
If they become one channel, it would benefit both.
Boomerang has been on automatic for years and YEARS!! And no one watches it. It would be way better for both the channels. Checkered Past could air more old CN shows and actually air more than 2 hours, and Boomerang won't be boring anymore. And if they want, they can still air Looney Tunes stuff. Maybe only on Fridays and call it "The Wabbit Hole" or something like that.
As for CN and [as]..
Just separate the two and actually air new shows and not Teen Titans, Craig of the Creek, and Gumball Reruns.
Is it really that hard?
Delete CN, and keep Boomerang and AS
Nickelodeon is in a even worse state. On the main channel and on Nicktoons, almost nothing but SpongeBob and Loud House; On TeenNick, nothing....but...an.. all.. day.. Henry Danger marathon. We can all thank both Pluto TV and Paramount+ for that.
Disney Channel/XD is doing somewhat better, despite the rise of Disney+ and the closure of their international channels.
I also wish that Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network in the US be a little more like their international counterparts, be all 24+ hour networks, meaning no Adult Swim or Nick at Nite.
The era of kids cable has come to an end, it just can’t compete with streaming and CZcams at this point
@@itsceerby It’s scary to think that they’re would be a day without such outlets. It’s also the commercials that also suffered because of that. Toy sales had declined thanks to tablets and junk food (chips, cookies, soda pop, fruit juice, sugary breakfast cereal and fast food) can’t be as open to their advertisement towards children (if at all, in the cases of soda and fast food) thanks to regulations.
That’s why I buy physical media. You’ll never lose it if these streaming services remove it
I haven't watched CN in easily over half a decade, though I'm sure the new youth are filling their airtime same as I did regardless of the content. A lot of new shows are just vapid and barren of any artistic integrity.
Infinity Train was the first cartoon I'd seen come out of CN in the last few years that looked legitimately digestible. There are too many shows taking after the worst parts of Teen Titans GO or Total Dramarama and not enough taking lessons from Adventure Time, Steven Universe, Gumball, Young Justice, or maybe even older shows like; Ed Edd & Eddy, Codename: KND, Johnny Bravo, or even go full circle with Scooby Doo! You named a good few yourself.
TL;DR: CN Needs to remember that they're constantly in the process of 'growing up' with their viewers, which they seem to have forgotten in place of pandering 'babby TV'.
I loved CN until these past few years but now. Now I honestly think Cartoon Network is in need of a mercy kill or a major rework. Cable and Broadcasting TV are dying,ratings are declining and people are moving to streaming. It's adapt or die in this new media landscape
Mao Mao heroes of pure heart/legend of pure heart was silently canceled and I still don’t know why because they promised us a season two that never showed up infinity train got screwed over and Apple and onion didn’t even stand a chance. Summer camp island is literally fighting for its series finale. Craig of the creek is wrapping up. Victor and Valentino wrapped up already teen times go well never die total Dramarama is finally gone. Steven universe wrapped up at story DC superhero girls. I don’t even know when it ended but it ended.
Adult swim has its own channel in Latin America now.
Yeah, I heard about that. They announced it after the video was written/recorded, so I didn't include it in the script. Granted, Latin America is a very different market than the US. But it's defiantly worth noting.
@@JoyofCrimeArtthat’s more of a minus than a plus when you realize it
I'm not gonna lie, I was hoping the "Protect the children from cartoon/video game violence" would end by this generation mostly due to the fact that it seems most kids around 80's and 90's would understand its all in harmless fun, seeing the horror movie/ video game violence boom around those times
it makes me sad seeing the network that made me wanna watch tv for most of my life (longer than most people my age or younger than me) has fallen so far from it's humble beginnings. I grew up with the network from the very beginning when it started as a Hanna Barbera animation network, I was there still watching all the live action stuff when cartoon network live was a thing (apparently a lot of people didn't like it as I would discover years later but I certainly enjoyed it), I was still watching during most of the 2010s even after I gave up on disney channel, and nickelodeon completely due to their lack of variety in what they aired (mainly sitcoms that weren't really funny or family oriented like they were advertised imo and were more like kids shows, but using the sitcom formula instead of idk making a cartoon but what do I know), and I only started to stagnate on watching cartoon network around the time teen titans go aired, not cuz I didn't like the show (unlike most people apparently) but instead was because I didn't have the time being a high school student close to graduating and trying to think about what I wanted to do afterwards, but I liked the network enough to watch it anyway cuz it still had the most variety of any network in terms of the sheer amount of shows I liked. that all changed when CN decided to air NOTHING BUT teen titans go and only that show for 90% of the networks tv schedule. Once that happened I was simply and utterly saddened, cuz again I didn't even hate ttgo, I just hated how that was all they aired when the big appeal to the network b4 to me was the variety, and the lack there of killed all hope of maintaining my attention. however I quickly returned once I saw all the new stuff they started airing on the network, and I felt like they finally had a return to form. then I noticed hbo max started taking up cartoon network shows, then they started removing some of the shows, then I once again noticed the lack of variety again, then I haven't returned since. this video makes me sad because I feel like I kept watching the CN even when everyone I knew and still know that were fans of it had left, new faces that joined me in watching them were also leaving, and felt like I was still the last fan fighting, and that feeling is still apparent after watching this video. Knowing that there are people out there that still love CN just as much as I do, and hope things for them can get better than they are rn. for those who read this super long comment, thanks for listening, and sorry it was so long.
Weird to see Adult Swim taking over the network, considering I still remember when I was 14 and it first started. Two nights a week, with the second night being a repeat of the first night. It's sad, but then again, I'm technically part of the problem, I haven't had dish/cable since 2011.
It's also weird how time works. Even now Adult Swim feels like a "recent" addition to me despite the pack it premiered when Adult Swim had only been around for 9 years, and now Adult Swim itself has been around over 20.
This is David Zaslav's fault! Everything at Warner Bros was fine until Zaslav showed up and ruined everything! Warner Bros should be the one owning Discovery, not the other way around.
There actually doing better in my opinion 😂 at least their running good reruns like Clarence, adventure time etc they use to play the same teen titans go ALL DAY or don’t get me started on their Johnny test era 😅😅😅 I remember when they first stop running any reruns at all like ed edd eddy and stuff. I can actually turn on the Cartoon Network now and actually find something to watch other than teen titans go
Yeah. Cartoon Network's variety has been a lot better since they've lost so much of their air time, as ironic as that is. You can defiantly tell that they're trying there best with what they have.
I remember them airing nothing but Teen Titans Go every day in December back in 2016-2017, it was insane.
It's interesting you chose the clip you did to open the video because that Cartoon Summer with the realistic 3D locations and the 2D characters doing things around the town, all leading to them slowly culminating in a movie theater at the end, where CN would play a movie before switching over to [AS], was one of the most notable seasons of TV for me. I genuinely think a majority of my nostalgia is linked to this particular "event" or whatever.
Truly was just emblematic of a better era when they weren't afraid to throw everything at the wall, both for the channel itself and the shows they played.
I think if CN dropped the stupid Cal-Arts art style they would've done better. like pre 2013 CN had a lot of variety and it wasn't afraid to get experimental.
Cartoon Network not being able to compete with skibidi toilet scares me
19:07 I don't see why that's gonna be an issue for Cartoon Network putting them on the main channel again I mean Ed, Edd n Eddy, Courage, Billy & Mandy & Dexter's Lab are mostly TV Y7 & TV G rated shows and plus they've been playing on Boomerang as well until they were removed. (Which still needs to be fixed by the way.) And plus it didn't stop them from having Star Wars The Clone Wars air on both Cartoon Network and Adult Swim years ago. First premiered on October 3rd 2008 on CN and on Adult Swim on March 14th 2009 from what I looked up. So why is that gonna be a problem to have those types of shows on both Cartoon Network AND Adult Swim when they've been mostly rated TV Y7 & TV G?
18:28 The reason why is because
1. A.k.a. Cartoon's (the company that was behind Ed, Edd, and Eddy) logo literally being a guy being impaled by a pencil
2. Courage The Cowardly Dog (in general) being very traumatizing to kids
What about Billy & Mandy and Dexters Lab?
@@Hamburger8079 hmm this is question for sure
Wow, did not realize there was THAT LITTLE remaining of actual new shows for cartoon network. Man that was sad. Cartoon network is dying and it's going out with a whimper.
Kids cartoons aren't simply as imaginative or entertaining as what they used to be back then in the 2000s and early 2010s imo. Anime was always something I enjoyed next to western animation growing up, but it was hardly accessible in the west unless you had cable to check out Toonami at night, or watch the morning children's programming blocks to see them. With the rise of streaming, however, all that anime is more accessible than ever, and has now become mainstream. Why watch the declining state of kids cartoons suffering from CalArts syndrome when you have all the variety of anime that puts most western animation to shame in the imaginative and entertaining aspects nowadays? Cartoon Network is simply out of touch. Adult Swim is the future.
So basically growing up?
I always thought advertising has huge errors on demographics. I’m the one buying for my kid or relation, we as a mid age now is not mid age in the 80s and 90s. We are more tuned in to what is fun. So, the toy adds should still do well since when I see it I have the money and want to buy this for my kid.
Not to mention advertising killed good shows on the network before, like young justice and the original teen titans series
Sad to see that CN lost its momentum again. I just want them to make more amazing cartoons like they used to be. It’s even sad that their old CN Studios is gone. Don’t know what the future is gonna be, but I hope for the best that they rise back.
Honestly there’s probably not much CN can do, kids are barely watching tv anymore
Not to mention in the 2010s when Nickelodeon was dying at least CN had Regular Show and Adventure Time, Now in 2023 whenever I get a chance to watch cable I watch Adult Swim
Cartoon Network lost its edge. Wtf are all those Wack ass Show they’re making nowadays.
They are catering to kids too much
What's crazy is that I have more stuff on DVD from Cartoon Network and Adult Swim than Nickelodeon
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
Thank you! That really means a lot!
The CEO of Warner Bros Discovery is David Zaslav.
1. HBO Max Removes 36 Titles as in August 2022 and May 2023
2. As on September 25, 2023 Aspect Ratio updated 14:9 and cropping 16:9
3. Losing hours of Cartoon Network 11 Hours and Adult Swim 13 Hours
Fire Zaslav and hire former CEO of WarnerMedia and re-merger of AT&T
Guys if cartoon network die more kids will end up being ipad kids and we cant let that happen
Cartoon Network died the day it decided to air teen titans go (no hate if you like it) but there was just weeks straight where ALL they aired was teen titans go, it was ridiculous
Idk if adult swim can save it, but if they take children shows from the mid 2000s like ed edd n eddy or grim adventures and put them on adult swim and make them adult cartoons it won't really help CN but it definitely will make enough money to carry CN until they get their sh*t together
CN and AS should stream their block on various platforms aswell as broadcasting it on cable. Convenience is key
Cancelling close enough is the last straw. 😢
Say all the hell you want about (Modern) Nickelodeon, But at least Viacom knows what it's doing.
Compared to Warner Brothers who keeps on F*CKING CARTOON NETWORK CLOSER TO IT'S *DEATH!!!*
Adult swims doing everything Cartoon Network can’t
I have the same birthday as Cartoon Network (its 6 hours older than me) but, this video hit the nail on the head. It's just a name now, it used to be a statement.
I just want to say thank you for making this video. I noticed a lot of people aren't talking about the current state of CN compared to 2016-2018 where everyone was talking about them. I honestly think of the current situation happened years ago than people would be going nuts about it like CN Real did. I was gonna go into my own thoughts on why Modern CN and partly TV animation as a whole has been going downhill but so much has happened since this video was made.
ACME Night is now a Adult Swim Block
Adult Swim is getting its own channel in Latin America
Since the beginning of this week all of Turner's channels have been experiencing glitches because of Discovery wanting to update the age rating screenbugs. This has lead to all shows finally airing their full credits but a whole slew of problems have happened. TBS has had their channel screenbug not show up during a American Dad premiere. Boomerang's programming is now cropped and stretched to 16:9. Worst of all is Adult Swim's scheduling being destroyed. Pretty much Checkered Past's schedules have been swapped. Airing episodes that were intended for the next day. Usually for the block on Fridays they would air a marathon of one of the shows. This week the Dexter marathon aired on a THURSDAY and today was just normal programming. I Think Tuesday had Dexter cropped, The Eds in widescreen and no screenbug, Billy & Mandy in 16:9 with a letterboxed intro and Courage cropped with no screenbug. Wednesday had the audio for the Eds sped up and muffled poorly. Finally the Adult Swim Schedule page has been broken ever since these changes. Not even showing the full schedule and only fragments of episodes listed and even skipping days. Even before these changes happened, the block has had some repeat episodes happened. Early on it even suffered from a issue CN has had since last year where they would only rerun certain episodes like the Dexter Cheese episode or the Invaded specials.
If there is one semi good thing to come out of all of this is that the new Tiny Toons show actually did do really well in ratings and is potentially CN's biggest hit in years. Not counting Fionna and Cake since that's only on Max. Despite the mixed reception towards the show itself from fans, the show is doing good numbers and I wonder what this means for the channel? Would this be more proof to the company that nostalgia and older IPs is what makes more views than original content?
I'm sorry for the news dump but I just find this year to be possibly the most insane year in CN history even with the lack of shows.
As on October 18, 2023 4:3 Aspect Ratio is now restored. 14:9 aspect ratio R.I.P. September 25-October 18, 2023
@@edgarblake5755 and on October 2nd 2023 the block made a surprise network premiere of a Grim & Evil episode that never aired in America
This is the exact thoughts I’ve had running through my head. Well said.
I just want David Zalsav fired and Warner Bros discovery demerged so badly right now.
i cant bieleve you didnt talk about the time cartoon network just aired johnny test during the afternoons til adult swim started
So sad to see what came of one of my favorite channels growing up as a kid. So many bangers. Fosters, code name kids next door, teen titans, dexters, Ed edd and eddy, power puff girls, just to name a few. Now to see they don’t even acknowledge any of em anymore.
Oh wow. I thought they were just adding the old shows to CN. I didn't know it meant that AS now started at 5. I typically avoid CN (because honestly, I'm a little over the point where it's normal for me to glace at it and I don't want to see a bunch of commercials for toys meant for kids decades younger than me) but AS really starts that's that early, I'd tune in for for some Ed, Edd, n Eddy. Hell, if they included a rotation of other shows like Camp Lazlo, Generation Rex, and Ben 10/Alien Force, that would be the tits. Perhaps do it through the years they aired.
Edit: How could I forget the 2010s Thundercat?
Cartoon Network doesn’t have the same multi-area of coverage since they primarily focus on television animation.
Nickelodeon, and Disney cover multiple areas that they can make not just for audiences, but also for money, like theatrical motion pictures, video games, preschool content, you name it, and Nickelodeon, and Disney have got it for anyone, it also helps that both brands have a bigger focus on kids and family fun entertainment, than Cartoon Network.
Yeah Cartoon Network always did feel like the one that had more edge than the others. Though Nick had some exceptions with Ren and Stimpy and Invader Zim.
On one hand, its sad to see that we’re gonna lose cartoon network
On the other hand, I call that a slap on the face for milking teen titans go
In Latin America AS launched a TV channel this month, from 6 AM to 10 PM: Anime, DBZ and Naruto (maybe add more) and the Checkered Past block .
10 PM to 6 AM Original AS shows.
The channel is very well received but is still in testing.
I know. I read about it. It sounds frickin' awesome! Defiantly seemed like WBD wants to increase [adult swim's] overseas presence.
the decline in cable services is also hurting CN. they just need to fully sign to only streaming services.
Would have loved a show of those bumpers of cartoon network characters in a real world setting. Don't have a main character just a bunch of side stories that builds up to an event.
adult swim is like cartoon network’s hotter and smarter younger brother 💀
I'm not surprised since indie is getting some more respect nowadays than how it was back in the 2010s.
Only real ones will know Cartoon Network has been dead for a long long time.
Neat vid.
Anyways, your audio is a little low. I constantly had to turn the volume down everytimr an ad came up. Normally it's not a bid deal cuz I'm on mobile but I was watching YT on my TV this time around and was annoyed by the sudden audio spike
Yeah. I've always struggled a bit with audio. I will try to have the audio be a little better in videos going forward. Cause I've gotten other comments from other people who had similar issues.
Glad you enjoyed the video by the way!
My only hope at this point is that the WGA/SAGAFTRA strikes might shake things up enough with streaming to put some faith back into CN from the higher ups
Great video brother u earned a sub and a like
Thanks man! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
CN should hold a pilot competition! It would help garner attention and make people look forward to something new.
They've been making pilots under the "Cartoon Cartoon" programing for a year or two. But none of those have been released to the public yet. Kind of like the Cartoonstitute. I honestly expect a few of those shorts to become shows at some point.
Boomerang may as well become Cartoon Network.