Rob Machado "Seaside" Surfboard Fin Vlog by Noel Salas Ep.16
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
- In this Vlog episode we stop by the Rip Curl Surf Center in San Clemente to talk about the fin options and versatility of the new Machado Seaside.
Hanging out with James from Rip Curl was a good time as we frothed out talking about different fin set ups and options for the new Seaside.
This new Seaside is EPIC as a Quad and really fun as a Twin Fin!!
The full review drops on the Machado "Seaside" this Monday 12/03/2018. Stay Tuned..... - Krátké a kreslené filmy
So wild! I just bought this board there from James last month! He was so incredibly helpful and knowledgeable. Their store and management is truly amazing and blessed my socks off. I can’t wait to return and get this twin fin set next time now. Thanks so much another awesome video Noel. I won’t have gotten this awesome board with all your super helpful videos on it. You guys rock!
Kyle Younes James at Rip Curl SC is awesome for sure. Cheers
Ive got the Seaside already 3 months ago, had some sessions with it and from my experience, the board as a ton of drive but I can’t do really easy turns with it. It holds a lot. Funny to see different reports here than mine. I am going to switch from the quad fins from RM to Twins and see if it gets any better. My other quads are much more loose… I’m 5,10-61kg and my RM is a 5’5”.
I had my reservations about the machado quads. They just look foreign to me and I worried that it would be too much fin. I rode my seaside in a few different quad setups but none of them gave me enough drive through turns. I popped in my good old trusty AM large sides with 3.75 flat trailers and that felt really good. Having success with the AM's made me start to think that I could possibly like the machados since it has an even longer base while still having the small trailers for release. I'm so glad that I bought them. I had an amazing session this morning in clean 3ft waves. I was flying down the line and flying through my turns. Snapping off the lip was a breeze, and just had an amazing time out there. The search is over.
benjamin m Excellent post... thanks for sharing with us all.
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NVS fins for life. Hands down the best fins I’ve used
Yeah so stoked on this review! Ive been pumped on this board for a few weeks now. Picked one up yesterday and can't wait to hit the surf with it!
Maurice Cureton So stoked for you!! Let us all know how it goes for you. Did you get a set of the Machado Quads too?
I did get the quad set. HSS still had a couple pairs left when I picked up the board!@@surfnshowreviews7777
Maurice Cureton Good job.. your on it.
cant wait for the review =) this is sick.
Seaside my best all rounder I’ve tried now.
Future fins.
Front quad fins use Machado Pivots.
Rear quads use Hayden shapes HS 4.2" Splayed 80/20.
Goes mental in all wave types.
Choppy small mush half the time and during swell, blown out 5-6ft punchy waves the other 49% at the home break. should i opt for the seaside or go fish? any other board recommendations appreciated, thanks.
Hi Noel, thanks for your insights. I am 5'11 tall with 209lb, intermediate/advanced surfer. Since some weeks ago, i am riding a 5'9 with 38 L, Patterson Devil Fish, with the quad fin settings. I've tried it with the Machado quads, and with the AM Keels on small weak surf. However, i am making a trip to Chicama in Perú, 6 ft faces of solid swell on the forecast.
Which setup do you recommend for me? Please if you can give me some in depth advice on why one or the other. Thanks a lot.
Cheers!
Seaside is a lot of fun. Just surfed it in 2’ plus overhead beach break. Couple times it got drifting dropping in but that was because I didn’t get my rear foot back far enough. After I adjusted sooo good.
Ron Belanger what size are you and what size board did you get? I’m 6 ft 6 and was going to get the 6.1 but worried it might have too much volume
@@CFSHealth I'm 6'5 and ride the 5'5 Seaside. 6'1 is a huge board, you wouldn't be able to sink it unless you're really heavy. What did you go for?
James, what up!!?? Where's that custom go fish? Stoked to try this seaside out!
Trying to make the decision about which keel fin to buy for my seaside, does anyone have experience with the Machado keel? or the ci is the way to go?
*Fun fun fun!*
Noel, stoked you're pumping these reviews out, especially the new Seaside! Have you surfed it in larger surf? Wondering how it'll do in overhead to double overhead? I saw Rob surf it at a tad overhead perfect Chopes but that's self explanatory. Also, just a filming tip, get your guy on a video monopod for those longer takes. The Manfrotto 561BHDV1 is what we use. Cheers
FREEDOMEDIA Stoked thanks for the tip in video gear! I surfed a bit overhead as a Quad and it goes good. I think it will handle up too 6’.
Surf n Show Reviews ok thanks my brotha 🤙🏼
@@surfnshowreviews7777 6 foot head high or 6 foot double overhead?!
samsstreets Up to 6’... double overhead is a bit much for this little board.
Dang got me jonesing, I'll take one of everything and that dude's jacket too.😁 Thanks noel👍
How about just popping out the back fins from the seaside quad set when its small or are they not good to surf as twins?
Valentino Luggen Not sure... give it a try.
Hi Noel, another awesome review, thanks! For a 5'11 155 lbs + 4/3 wetsuit most of the time , upper intermediate surfer who usually rides a 31-32 liter daily drive, what size would you recommend? I try to go up a tad on my smaller wave boards, but want to avoid being too corky or boat like. Thanks!
Matthew Bier keep your liters the same... roughly 31-32 on the Seaside.
you are 155 surfing same litres as me at 195, go down to 27litres
Hey Noel ! I LOVE yours reviews ...... So i ve bought a Seaside Firewire and a Holy Grail HS after your review about it .
A question for you : Split keels could work on the Seaside ? (i ve used it on my Chumlee firewire )
I cant wait my seaside !!! i would receive it in March ...
Papy Slater Yes... I would try your Split Keels in your Seaside. That board is very versatile with fins.
How would you compare the seaside to your chumlee?
Hey Papy Slater / (Ynot Noel too) ! I got to buy a new board. I'm looking at semi all-arounder.. Which one do you like more Holy Grail or Seaside? They got similar wave range as far as I have understood. Thanks!!
Hey Noel, did you ever try medium quad sets on this board. Since the bottom contours are a board eat board style, and you found that medium vs large fins made the moonbean magic, I wondered if that same logic would apply to the seaside.
Mark C No I didn’t try a Medium set. My thoughts to try that with the Moonbeam because the board felt a little sticky with a large set, so I went Medium and it fixed that.
This Seaside never felt sticky unless I was overpowering it in my turns. Just pushing too hard. The Large fins felt great... I am sure a good set of Mediums will go pretty good too.
I'm relieved to see this. Got a fishbeard yesterday and they didn't have the Al Merrick keels in stock, so I went for the Machado keels
I used the AMK's in my seaside for a few sessions and they were good but they made my bottom turns to drawn out for my liking. I picked up the Machado keels and they feel perfect. Like Noel said just as drivey (technically more because they have a larger base), but with more pivot.
How did the Machado keel T Fins go on the fishbeard mate? I'm having the same problem when looking for the AMK in local shops...
Has anyone tried the seaside Machado quad fin setup on the el tomo?
Hey Nole, I live in the Sunset Cliffs Ocean Beach area and I have my mother's original 5'6 Lis fish. I'd like to invite you to come down to Newbreak and go for a surf on it. The only rule is you have to surf it like a twin fin not snap under the lips no reverses, no airs. Just good old speed and rail2rail carving and tubes. If you are interested hit me back on the comment will put it together film it
Jettydog 1502 Sick your Mom surfs? Thanks for the invite... I can’t promise no under the lip snaps or reverses’ though. 😂 I wish we had time for invites like yours. Maybe in the near future when Surf n’ Show is a full time job for my brother Aarron and I. Cheers and thank you again for the invite.
Brother, where are you surfing in these clips? Great style, speed and flow.
L Dupree Cheers
Excellent !
Hi, witch board size Noel Salas ride in the video ? and witch size he recommend compared to gofish volume ? thanks
Lionel Berti I am riding a 5’2” Seaside and I rode a 5’3” Go Fish.
Hey Noel. Did you end up trying out the Seaside with the Machado keels? If so, how did they go?
No sorry
Would you consider a show where you try a lineup of thrusters as twin fins or twin plus stabilizer. I have recently don't this to one of my thrusters and it's a boom.
Hotwire I’ve been running Twin + Trailer set ups a bunch lately. Have you watched our most recent reviews? I did this with the Pyzalien 2, Swordfish, etc....
@@surfnshowreviews7777
I will take a look, cheers.
Noel so I got my SeaSide 5”11 including a Rob machado fins set and then I realized i should get a smaller board instead maybe 5”6 or 5”9. Because the SeaSide 5”11 some how a little difficult for me to turn. Anyway so I put those 2 machado quad fins on my Superbrand Unit 5”9 and LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING I personally feel like there are wheels underneath my surfboard when I surf... is Super floaty almost make me feel like I’m foiled surf. Can you explain to me how it that happened?
Anh Hoang Stoked for you on the fins going good in your Super. Not sure...
how much do you weigh? i am 5'11'' and 205lbs and i picked up a 5'10'' seaside at 39 liters and to be honest i should have went to a 5'8''.. however this board is super snappy and easy as pie to cut back on...you gotta make sure your foot is on the very back of this board ( well for any board to turn ).
@@SlickWillie agreed. And agreed on have to get on the tail to carve and snap. I'm 6'2" 215 and the 5'8" seaside is the shit. Would take it anywhere in nearly any surf
Will Davis im 5’11 175pounds you think a 5’11 will be to much liters for me? Im starting to do turns but mostly just like to cruise
Will Davis I’m 5’6 145 lbs
Have you tried the curved AU fins? I would love to hear your opinion on them.
No sorry
@surfnshowreviews7777 Would you recommend the Machado quads for dominator 2 as well? Otherwise, what other quads would you recommend for it? I am looking into buying something from a local store, your fins unfortunately aren't available where I am
Not really… the Machado Keel set has a lot of drive but somewhat limited in performance surfing in the pocket. Try to get the Pyzel 5 fin set in Medium if your under 185 pounds
Seaside vs RNF Retro? Which one turns better/more performance?
Brandon Lane Seaside!! Retro has a more classic vibe
What do you think about trying them on the Channel Islands Rocket wide with the swallow tail??
Might go good…
I was curious if you ever tried the lost seaworthy or lost split keel. How do they compare to seaside quad? does the split keel pivot as well?
The Split Keel is fast and pivots okay for me…. They are a bit tracky. Meaning…. They like to go straight fast but hard to break off that straight line to do turns.
you look good my friend. succes
How about for guys 200lbs plus, the Machado specific fin set only comes in one size, surely they don’t work in a 5’2 and a 5’11 equally well?
Baldheadedchimp Yes they do... the fins are pretty big and the Honeycomb in Futures or the Fiberglass in FCSII offer solid hold
Surf n Show Reviews cheers mate, picking the board up today, it’s got Rasta quads in it so I’ll grab a set of the Machado ones.
Baldheadedchimp Rock the Rasta’s first
How did the Rasta fins go?
I bought a Seaside 5’5 two weeks ago. Had about 5 surfs on it. I'm 5'9 and 11 stone. I’ve got another 2 weeks to swap it for another board from the shop I bought it from if I want to. It grovels ace but over chest high in steeper waves it starts to feel a little less manageable. Perhaps I just need to get used to it but it slid out doing cut backs a couple of times on steeper waves, which I'm not used to happening to me on my daily driver board, (5'9 29.5 ltrs tri fin). I’m using the Machado quads. I probably could swap it out for a smaller one however, in the interest of grovelling and making the 5'5 more versatile, what fins might make it hold better Rastovich quads??, is it just me, or the board size?
Might they make it less manoeuvrable?
Try the Al Merrick Quads size Large
What shop lets to trade the board in two weeks if you don’t like it? That’s awesome wish my shop had that option.
Noel - have you had a chance to try the seaside with the Machado keels yet?
Sam O No sorry...
No worries - let us know if you do. The people want to know!
Heads up CI are working with FCS to release the Merrick keels in FCS shortly (or at least such was the word pre-COVID)
Do u prefer this over CI twin for SD ?
IzandEva Inmyheart Seaside for sure!!!
So I have a two 5’10 seasides my future quad fins work great for aggressive turns but however I have the same Machado quad fins as the ones on the table in the video and I can not throw any aggressive turns or hacks with them in feels like I’m riding a long board can’t do shit lol
Do these Machado quad fins come in only one size? Thanks
Yes… I believe so
yes. he just came out with a newer set to, def on the stiffer side is you need something for when the waves are good
Oh man, I thought this was the full review. Glad to hear the twin fin works too. Im going to have to get the twin set as well. Ive got the Rob Quad. As soon as this swell dips a bit I'm out there on this thing. Until then its Gamma time! Whens the full review
good buddy
Maurice Cureton It drops on Monday!!! Stay tuned....
Futures PC vs FCS PG, thoughts?
PG is stiffer and offer more consistency through turns. However in smaller surf they can feel a bit stiff in some templates.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 sorry, I meant specifically for these fin templates. You're about the only person I know who's tried both.
Hey Noel
How would the large Machado Quad fins made for the Seaside go in a Cymatic?
If anyone has experience trying this out please feel free to chime in too.
Cheers
Dave
dbthreshold Not sure... give it a go and let us all know. Cheers
Will do.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hi Noel and viewers. Thought I'd get back to you regarding my experiments with the Machado Quad fins in the Cymatic. I have tried them out in head high beach break and chest high point surf. One session choppy, one clean. Normally I ride the cymatic with Hayden rears and control series front fins (Freestone/JJF) - so that's the comparison point. I have to say the Machado quad fins work well. The cymatic is extremely responsive with this set of fins. Heaps of fun and very quick and snappy (and it already is anyway). Probably not suited to more powerful surf though. I'd probably then go back to my usual set.
dbthreshold Epic... thanks for posting for the rest of us.
I know what I'm getting for Christmas :)
C S Smart....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel I am 5'11" and 170lbs. I have a lost PJ 5.5 -- 31.44CL (PU) that I love, and I am looking at the Seaside at 5'4" 29.8 L or 5'5" 31.5L. Because of the EPS, i am thinking the 5.4 as the extra float gets me up more around the feel of a 30ish CL board. I am in good shape and surf often. I surf local around here Pink House, Creek mostly, and sometimes Barbed Wires, Cottons or Uppers. What do you think? Thanks for all of the great info and reviews! Keep it up!
Do the machado fins come with the board?
Miguel Marquina No sir...
HAAAA!!!!
Anyone saying that Rob does not matter and this board shape is even older than Rob?
Why is everyone up on the Nob of Rob?
$ maybe?
@@dirkdiggler6230 nobody is forcing you to pay though. That's the exact beauty of capitalism. People make awesome shit like this for those who want it. I agree they're ridiculous in price though, but you can get creative with cheap knock offs, or go Captain Fin...
what a moneymaker first they sell you a board for 800 to 900 bucks! then they charge you .
a 130$ more for the fins to the board. wow!!!so the idea is that you work 50 hours a week to make enough money to buy these things so you can surf one hour a week LOL
Didymostruespeak Surfing equipment is expensive... but once you have it the beach is free. Unlike Golf, Snowboarding... etc. those sports are expensive + green fees, or lift tickets. Just saying...
Surfing equipment is unnecessarily expensive. Used boards are easy enough to get. in the $400 to $300 range .because just like cars surfboards lose their value soon as you drive them off the lot...but as the surfboards get more expensive and the trips get more expensive .surfing turns into a sport of elitist returning to the sport of Kings. but not. Because there are no Kings and I never did believe in royalty
Didymostruespeak True... but one thing to be said about a Firewire if we’re comparing Surfboards to cars.... they are way more durable then your typical PU or EPS constructions that are in the market today. So the resale value stays high and the quality of life still left in the board for the next surfer is excellent. I am a huge fan of buying used boards... that’s how I got my liters dialed roughly 5 years ago. It would have cost me a small fortune buying new boards to find out what liters and DIMS float me best. I was on Craigslist hunting used boards daily trying to work it out. I am a fan of buying used quality fins too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 . Okay I'll tell you that's what I ride is a FireWire Spitfire bought used it's a good board.
Didymostruespeak Good conversation!! Cheers