REAL WORLD REVIEWS: Sure-Grip Avenger Magnesium plates! (brief history and why/how it works!)
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- The 45 degree plate market may be one of the most overlooked plate configurations in rollerskating outside of derby use, falling out of favor for most jamskaters and even many speed skaters over the last 20 years. Despite this, Sure-Grip had some outside help in designing a 45 degree plate that promises to reignite the passion for 45 degree plates by making a plate that is simple, durable, and versatile.
The beautiful white powdercoated finish, Double-action 45 degree trucks with adjustable pivot pins, hollow core hardened steel reverse kingpins top them off with cutting edge technology that many 45 degree plates have never seen.
The result? tighter loops, deeper edges, and greater maneuverability with more predictable handling.
These DO have a higher deck height, which means the use of taller wheels (70mm and above) is easily possible.
They are designed as a "compact" plate, which means a shorter baseplate can be used to attain a wheelbase of a larger plate. this means that when mounting them, they should be pushed forward from the back, approximately 15-20mm. it looks shorter than it is, but that's because the rear axles sit nearly flush with the rear of the plate.
I recently switched over from riedell r3's to the white magnesium avengers with a custom DC sneaker setup.
I've wasted 11 years with those stupid R3's. The avenger is so much better.
These things turn like a demon. People seem convinced that these things are going to be twitchy and hard to skate with. But I've found it to be the opposite. These are probably going to be the last plates I'll ever buy, they're really that good.
I'm loving the control I have in these. I can zip and cut through a crowd before they even have a chance to know I was there. For my use, rink skating with the kids, they are flawless.
Did you mount them with a traditional mount? I am just a basic rink skater and would like to know how they feel. I am trying to learn jb and I think the angle will help me with me bending my knees more and speeding up the movement of my feet. I am so stiff with the 10 degree.
@@larryhoward7217 yep. I've got them mounted like normal skates.
My trucks are not tightened too much, and they love to turn. I do a lot of scissors and crossovers easily
"lemons or bubbles or whatever they're calling it this week" !
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Provocative review. Would love to demo these plates. Thank U sir !!
Of course, give them a shot! They're pretty fun! They turn normal skating into "carving" when tuned right!
How do they do at higher speeds? I’m running 10° sunlites and I’m wanting to go with a Falcon Pilot, Roll-Line or Avenger. I’m just afraid I’ll get speed wobbles at higher speeds and when I do back axle splits. I’ve been skating for 40yrs and never tried a higher pitched king pin. I like to dance, jam skate and cruise around. Never racing speeds.
You can kill some of the action by going to a harder cushion, like the sure-grip super cushions in red
Hi, i was recommended your channel and I'm very new to outdoor rollerskating and plan to get into park skating and was wondering what the best durable lighter weight plates would be for a Moxi Panther boot :o I heard the Reactor Pros are lighter than the Avanti Magnesium and the Reactor neo.
Park skating, I'd go with a sunlite all day on that
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 I've heard about those being very flexible :o im a little nervous to try those
@AutumnnLeavesx13 completely understandable, but the jump bar (which is usually replaced with a grind block) increases that rigidity.
I did a video on the sunlites on here, go check it out, it might be the right thing, I see sunlites used by so many park skaters with hardly any bad side effects
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 i do like the color options:) Where can I buy it so it comes with the jump bars? I see people complaining that they didn't get ones with their plates :o
Do I need sure grip cushions or could I use my Powerdyne reactors? Will the suregrip grind block fit on that plate? I prefer to get a grind block over a slide block to start with. I would actually like to put that grind block on the marvel plates that I have, is that possible? I keep seeing conflicting information about whether or not the panther skates are park safe :o
@AutumnnLeavesx13 if it doesn't have a jump bar, the grind block actually replaces the jump bar, so you're in luck there. Reactor cushions won't fit the sunlite plates, use sure-grip
Skated on Snyder Imperials my whole life. Looking for a new set up, and noticed the lack of 45deg plates. Perhaps these are the answer. Now trying to figure out new boots. My old set up were Riedell Gold Stars, also discontinued. Any opinions on the Avenger vs the Imperial?
Very similar skating experience but the avenger is much more "set it and forget it" versus the imperial needing readjusting
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 thank you for your reply. One more question. Avenger vs Arius? Alum vs Mag?
@@tamimatteson1093 always magnesium, FAR lighter.
If you don't do a lot of REALLY tight turns, the avanti is plenty of plate
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 Perfect. Thank you!
I have this plate on a 595 right now with piper legends and swiss bearings. Would this be a good setup for shuffle and some middle work for jam skating?
Jamskating will be a bit tougher because of the high deck height, but shuffle skating is a treat with these
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 What plates are good for jam skating?
@kylestaker9279 good classic staples for this have always been the pro-line, powertracs, and just about anything made by roll-line!
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How do you think a 45 degree plate would work on a high top boot? Not to many videos about it but tempted to give it a try. My style is JB/ Artistic.
It's been done a few times, certainly not impossible!
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 Really interested to see how it turns out hopefully I will like it !
Did you try out the 45s? How did it go?
@@larryhoward7217 Hey Larry! I am skating this setup now. Mounted to a high top suregrip boot at the moment. One of the things I’ve noticed is the ability to edge is incredible making transitions almost seamless. Spinning on your own axis is Preety easy with these plates they are perfect for my setup they handle my jumps as well. Way more agility then my 10 degree Snyder setup!
@Klever Riches cool mine are on the way. I am trying to learn JB, and I think the 10 degree contributes to keeping my feet stiff. Plus, my nerves when I try the basicmoves.lol. pray for me!
Hi I was wondering I have regular sure grip competitor plates. They're very heavy. Are doing basic skating around the rink Roll n bounce skating how is the avnger 45 degree on a reidell heeled boot will i have control? thank you.
You'll definitely have control and a wider range of motion
I just bought a da 45 elite an im super worried about wheel bite during my turns😮 your wheels are too small. I’m running a 44mmX64mm. I’ll figure out soon enough but what about wheel bite? I found 45s sit really low to the boots😢🫣
Shouldn't have any issue, 45s have a tendency to sit pretty high... I've seen no issues with any of them yet
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 I currently skate on an 811 with a rival plate an monzas. 42x62 I think or something like that. An I’ve gotten wheel bite a few times. I got a 45 degree bc of the claims about more agility… I’m extremely aggressive. The boot I got to sit on top of my RD elite is an antik jet carbon. I hope you are right about no wheel bite😩
Would it be a fair comparison that these are as close to in line in quad state Skating that you’re going to get with these plates?
They will out turn an inline definitely
Did the holes line up with the VNLA skates or did you have to drill new holes?
I had to drill new ones
Mmm...odd...I posted a question for you but it is not showing up in comments. I believe CZcams thinks it is spam. I sent it twice. Apologize for that, did not realize CZcams filtered the first message out. Thought I just had an internet glitch. Again sorry about double message. I now see the comment counter reflects the messages that I sent, but they are not currently displayed. I am guessing they are in your box for review.
I can't view it for some reason, I could read the preview about skate debate though, I haven't signed up yet but I probably should
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 I wish CZcams did not remove the private message system. I have a new skate that I believe has the plates incorrectly mounted. The name of the thread is "I think my new skate plates are not mounted correctly, please help."
Anyone know how well these plates hold up for a heavier skater compared to a metal plate, I am 6’0 210lb.
These are more than sturdy enough
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 I am only using these plates only for rink skating. For that is the 45° kingpin plate worth it over the avanti. I am currently on 10° kingpin and while I would like some more maneuverability, I don’t want it to be too much I cant control it. I imagine a 10° kingpin is more stable but do you get used to the instability on a 45?
@@shan4502 you do get used to it, but if you'd like to dial some of the action out, just change cushions to something harder, like the sure-grip super cushions in red.
@@rollerskateuniverse6763 Alright I just ordered them today. Hopefully I like them. Thanks for the advice 👍🏼
if i want skates to cruise around outside for exercise and relaxation, should i get 45 or 10 degree?
specifically the avengers or avantis?
Avengers are great for that! The easy action cuts down on fatigue
I have them and they suck!
They're definitely an "acquired taste"
Brian Brian could you elaborate on your experience?
Why do you think they suck?