A Brief History of the Italian Carcano Rifle & Collection Overview (1891-1945)
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2022
- We'll take a look at all the major Italian Carcano rifles designs from 1891 to 1945.
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Excellent video man! The collection is looking impressive.
Thanks man! I still need to add a Model 38 with the early barrel band at some point...
The fuddlore on Carcanos and Arisakas certainly benefited some of us who knew better by keeping the prices down for a while. Ammo scarcity didn't hurt either. Mosins seemed to escape this stigma until the flood came in.
Yeah, I’m surprised how quickly the prices on Arisakas and Mosins rose. I started collecting in 2014 and they were much cheaper then. Carcanos will likely have the same trajectory.
Your collection always reminds me that I need to up my game haha
Haha you’ve got a few yourself that I’d like
...MAGNIFICO!!!!!!!
Many thanks! I found the illustration using the search terms you suggested! 👍🏻
Amazing collection man. That's my dream collection right there. My favorite Carcano is the cavalry carbine, I absolutely love that rifle.
Listening to your detailed responses to various comments and questions, I wonder that you are not a military historian. Your knowledge of the subject matter is truly expansive and very well explained.
Great content from a broad range of perspectives.
Clicked and subscribed. 😊
Haha well thanks! Their is certainly a lot I have to learn but it’s a hobby that I love.
Awesome and informative video. You’re the guy I go to for my Carcano history.
Thanks man!
Very good video! with a lot of good information. And some very nice carcano’s. keep up the good work
I appreciate the comment!
Awesome
Nice collection, thanks for the video, been looking for info on mine I bought back in 76,, I guess the 1930 is the date, has MBT and MB2214 stamped.
MBT is quite a rare one!
Very good and accurate information. Thanks for what you do. The only price of infor I found incorrect was the type I bolt being the same. It is not. The ejection slot in the bottom of the bolt body is not in the same spot.
The Carcani have become my new favorite rifle. A recent find of mine was from RTI. I'm almost obsessed with the Ethiopian stash. I purchased an M91 long rifle that was converted to 7.62x39 by the Ethiopians with a sleeve in the chamber. The barrel itself was honed out a bit but not quite 30 cal so it will not be a shooter. Awesome history though.
This is very true and good correction! The Type I bolt body is unique to that rifle. Check out my Type I video if you have a chance. I briefly go over the bolt differences.
I still haven’t touched the RTI Ethiopian carcanos. I’ve seen a ton of them in awful condition and, like you said, some have rather interesting adaptations. Some interesting history for sure but out of principle, I don’t buy from them. I think their business practices are pretty disingenuous. I’m at the point where I’m now trying to collect different manufacturers.
@@GarandGuy2553 I will check out the video. I never had a mind for focused collecting. I get distracted far too easily. I really wanted to get some Ethiopian captured guns in particular for the history. I know some of the things done in the past by RTI have not been on the level but at this point they are the only game in town for Ethiopian specific firearms. Even if you buy one from someone else it still came from RTI. Also the company has seen some pretty drastic changes when it comes to management and customer service recently. I will say that the RTI from 5 years ago is not the same as today. It is very rare today for an importer to get stuff from such an old and undeveloped country in the wide range and quantity we are seeing coming out of Africa. Surplus bolt actions are indeed drying up and I personally cannot pass them up anymore as long as they give me what I pay for. The history is far too important to let rust away.
Yea i started a 6 rifle WWII collection and so far i have a No4Mk1 Long Brnach build in 1943 and my Grandfather took a Maruser off what he thought was a consctipt solder and it was a VZ24. No Nazi markings and it was restocked either just before or after the war started. But all matching on the metal. ,and great bore! Same with my and then my Carcano 91/24 so now all i need is an M1 Garand ,an Arisaka and a Nagant! The 1st and last of those three are the most $$$! Gotta play the lotto! LOL
Nice! The M1 Garand will probably cost about 1,000+ but the Arisaka and Mosin-Nagant aren’t that expensive. You can still snag them for below 500 each.
At 18:42secs the picture is of Greeks during the Greco Italian war with Greek mannlicher 1903’s
My mistake.
Very nice my friend I’m glad I found your channel you should do more posts on each individual rifle
I have a whole series on the Carcanos and I try to do individual rifle reviews. Unfortunately it’s been a busy year at work and I haven’t been able to put much content out.
I have a Modified one i believe? Or its the 91/24? lol how would i be able ot tell? Woul it be by the date or production or .....? All i know about it is i purchased it threw RTI and it was stored in Europe not in Ethitopia. Of course since i thought it was going to be my nonly Carcano i paid the hand select(craxy high price) and got a good one! :>) The problem being now i was a long rifle? lol Which one of the Italian long rifles would you suggest? I would prefer it be, one of the Carcano models but if there is a better shooting rifl among the longer rifles the Italian's had please? Thanks was a great video!!!
When you purchased it, the model number should’ve been in the title. What does your receipt from RTI say?
Nice video! Could you please tell me where the illustration at 4:17 is from? Is it from an Osprey book? Thank you!
Ahh sorry for the late response! Look up drawing of Italian wwii infantry on google and you should find it.
It's an illustration of the Battle of Adwa, 1896. It's on the Italian Wikipedia page of the battle: it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battaglia_di_Adua
"The Battle of Adowa, The Last Rally of General Dabormida. Illustration for The Graphic, 11 April 1896."
It.: " La battaglia di Adua: L'ultimo recupero del generale Dabormida, The Graphic."
Fr.: "Français : Bataille d'Adoua, 1896. Gravure d'époque."
@@elisabettamacghille4623 Great info but not the illustration I was talking about. Thanks!
i have the 1891 long rifle, its a fun gun. heavy though lol
Lift a swede 95 some time- it'll make the carcano seem light... at least in comparison!
@@grant9939 we have a swedish mauser
It’s not that bad! But the walnut stocks are significantly lighter. If you get one with beechwood, you can feel the difference.
@@GarandGuy2553 interesting,
The 7.35 ×51 is expensive ammo
Oh definitely!
What do the 1891 long rifles go for. I've had one of 20+ years and never knew the price.
About 600-700 for a regular one today but that obviously depends on condition, year, manufacturer, ect.
Where do they sell this riffle at?
What is a “riffle”?
@@GarandGuy2553 modello 38 in 7.35x51mm
@@BAB00215 You can name a specific model but you can’t spell “rifle” correctly?
At 11:35 that rifle is what I’m talking about
@@BAB00215 I just got these at various LGS, Gunboards, Gunbrokers, ect. You just gotta look around. They come up all the time.
An enviable collection!
Thanks! Get ‘em while you can.
@@GarandGuy2553 That was my mistake. We apparently got some Carcanos up here in Soviet Canada last summer or so and I didn't bite when I could have. I still see them at some places so I may still have a shot.
the 91/41 here in italy is called also "Fucile per Truppe Alpine" (Rifle for Alpine Troops) was designed for the Alpini for the invasion of russia wich 8 rifle for experimental purpose were build around the HMG round 8x59mmRB Breda and also digging around internet in very small number rechambered in 8 mauser 18:44 also 08:51 is the first time i hearing of 91 TS Modificato are you sure you are not refering to the 91/28 rifle? also designed for TS and with a special side mounted grenade launcher (Trombocino)
Thanks for the comments! The name 91/28 is technically an incorrect designation when referring to this TS according to Alberto Simonelli and Giovanna Chegia’s book. While it was adopted in 1928, it was never designated as such. They just considered it to be a modified moschetto TS. The only rifle that was designated 91/28 was the rifle with the grenade launcher modification which was also called the “moschetto per Truppe Speciali con Tromboncino”. They only made 5,000 or so of these TS’s that could fit grenade launchers so I figured it wasn’t worth mentioning. I try to stick to only using ministry of war designated names if possible.
@@GarandGuy2553 because in always here in italy through the infos ive read and the actual rifle for sale i always see the 91/28 name
@@JDaVaporPhonkGuy03 Everyone refers to them as 91/28’s in the US as well. I think it’s a combination of being easier to market in English and misinformation being passed down from other generations. The name just stuck even if it’s technically not right.
@@GarandGuy2553 hmm makes sense surely the Carcano-Arisaka Type I (I stand for italian) you can just call it Type I cause is the actual name used by japanese
@@JDaVaporPhonkGuy03 Definitely!