The Best Pokemon Games That KILLED The Series
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver ruined Pokemon forever. But I'm saying that for good reason. Leading up to the release, we had games like Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emerald, and Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. It felt like we were on a consistent uprise in terms of the quality of the games, and Heart Gold / Soul Silver were no exception.
My problem lies mainly with the stuff that followed...The games set the bar so high that all future titles fell short in my opinion. So this video covers my thoughts on the games, and the current state of the series as well as some personal stories about what the games mean to me. I hope you enjoy, and as always: Thanks for watching.
Also, my opinion is definitely correct because I am heavily biased to favor these games.
Let me know if you think this is a stupid take, or if you agree, or what your favorite game in the pokemon franchise is down in the comments.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:25 Background
1:43 The (Heart)Gold Standard
4:57 OVERWORLD SPRITES LETS GO
6:17 Peak Game Design
7:27 Aesthetic / Art Direction
8:47 The best location in the franchise
9:57 Goated music
11:20 The reason for my immense bias
13:59 SO MUCH CONTENT!!!
16:45 Leveling & Quality of Life Improvements
#pokemonheartgold #pokemonsoulsilver #pokemonhgss #casualgaming #gamingvideos #pokemon #nintendo #nintendods #pokemoncommunity - Hry
Thank you for watching! I'd really love to hear what you think about this & hear about your favorite era of Pokemon
This was my favorite game by far. Lent my original cartridge out to a friend and never got it back and I've been sad about it to this day.
That is so painful especially seeing how expensive the games have gotten :/ same situation happened with my emerald copy back in the day
@@mistercbody I could definitely play an emulator, but everyone knows it's not the same.
@@russellbuehl4371 big time. It gets the job done but there’s something so great about playing on a handheld like the old days
so you're saying today's games don't suck because HGSS is so good? shut up, recent games really suck and it's a factual thing🙄
I use to hate Pokémon black and white but years later i realized it’s not that black and white were bad games it just that pokemon hg and ss set the bar too high
The price of greatness😪
I literally can't hold tears each time I hear the olivine/ violet city theme. I played the OG GS releases back in the day when I was just 8 years old, and this remake made my life just better when it came out. I still have the original saves of my original playthrough of them backed up and play it here and there on emulators, just because.
Thanks for this video.
So glad you enjoyed! The violet / olivine song has to be my favorite track in the entire game (right up there w the National park theme because that one is just incredible). I love that you have the OG save files too, I’m an original save file hoarder😭 still got my sapphire & BW2 saves untouched for decade(s) on the carts
Gloop Guy, Antman & Gater. The holy trinity of any Pokemon team
For real though the amount of care put into the overworld sprites gave this game so much personality at every step. I remember going out of my way to get a Wailord just so I could see how big it would be on my DS screen lol.
Gloop Guy is cracked - and yeah completely agreed. The sprites added another whole layer and reason for people to continue playing the game for that exact reason
My favorite Pokemon memory is when I realized I could push the boulders down the holes in the ice path in gold. I’d spent weeks trying to figure out the ice path. Eventually giving up and just kinda wondering around doing random stuff. Periodically returning to try to solve the puzzle. Then eventually I pushed a boulder through by accident and it clicked, I got to blackthorn, I beat Claire, I caught some cool pokemon, got the master ball and used it on raikou, and used it to destroy the league. I played it several years after it came out, but I was a little kid in the mid 2000’s so I didn’t really know Google was a thing I could use for resources
This is great. There’s nothing like that initial discovery as a kid, like the lightbulb lighting moment. I’ve had sooo many throughout my years of playing and still continue to across all the games I play now and it’s my absolute favorite feeling when playing something
Insert “Pokémon had a rough transition to 3D” statement here. Fans of the blue hedgehog will understand.
Older gen’s are often carried by nostalgia since the fond memories will always linger in someone’s mind and I’m guilty of this myself.
100%. it makes me really wonder whether everything I think back on as the greatest games ever (HGSS, emerald, FRLG) really were that great or if the reason I feel so strongly is because of how much they shaped my childhood
@@mistercbody They can be both. Memories are formed by emotion. Nostalgic things are nostalgic because you loved them, and you loved them because they were great. Nostalgia just amplifies your memory of their greatness, it doesn't fabricate greatness where there is none.
The first time I played Pokemon was Pokemon Blue emulated on what probably was the shadiest 100 games in a CD pack ever. But I absolutely loved how me and my sister came up with so many explanations for things like, "Oh you gotta knock out Pokemon or they'll keep following you and triggering encounters," or "Pikachu is the only electric type that can shock ground type Pokemon".
That said Gold/Silver was the moment it clicked and led me down a rabbit hole that I'll cherish forever. Between the music, the variety of Pokemon. Roxanne being a brick wall, I loved every moment of Gold and even grinded grades to convince my parents to get a GBA for Crystal.
there truly is nothing like the wonder of that first playthrough. It really gives us these amazing unforgettable memories
Who's Roxanne in Gold/Silver?
@@JosephCox-yx4ds eh yo that's Whitney isn't it? Miltank with Rollout
I’ll never forget when I moved out of my parents house in 2022 and legends Arceus came out the end of that month. I preordered at my local GameStop in the mall and called them 3 times that Friday because I was working all day and couldn’t go pick the game up til the end of the day and their was a huge snowstorm incoming and I wasn’t gonna be the only one snowed in without that new game. From the second I got into the game I had those old nostalgia vibes. Life was good.
Wow I actually remember this too because there was a huge snowstorm that weekend where I lived too. I spent that entire weekend absolutely tearing that game up lol, peak memory for me as well
HG/SS and Black/White were peak pokemon.
I somehow skipped B/W when they released and came back for X/Y. I was so confused why people were so dissatisfied with X/Y until I went back and saw B/W.
To me it seems like Pokemon games were passion projects about up until the past decade, and now it’s all about the bottom line.
black and white, then black and white 2 were the last games I played at release until sword and shield, and when i played SWSH i thought they were really cool to see the jump from 2D - 3D (i skipped sun/moon & x/y) but other than that i found the game to feel a little empty tbh, so I completely get what you mean. Profits > Passion sadly
A lot of people skipped black and white unfortunately. I loved the storyline and black and white 2s post game and the seasons (which weve never seen again). The designs just don't vibe with me.
People try to dismiss it as nostalgia for old pokemon but that isn't it. I love most scarlet/violet designs. It's not just the inspirations they chose (like ice cream). I think it has something to do with the lines. The pokemon just don't look quite as much like pokemon to me. Some of them like zebstrika do, but many of them just look a little off or more like fakemon.
The other problem is the moving sprites. I think gamefreak implemented them before they were ready to do something like that. I get motion sickness. It sucks because I can't go back to them. Even back in the day it was a struggle to play for decent periods of time. Too pixelated and too blurry.
@@pixality7902 Agreed - my biggest pain point with them is the pokemon designs mainly. Otherwise, I'd personally consider them top of the line. The moving sprites actually never bothered me much
100% agree anytime I go back to to a pokemon games its either HG/SS or my original copy of gold (got it for my 3rd bday and still have the box too 😎). I'm still upset they never continued with the pokewalker too.
That’s so awesome that you still have the original copy! I think it’s a massive flex to say you still have some of your childhood copies lol & If they brought something like the poke walker back I think it would be a massive hit. Like we have Pokemon go which is I guess like a poke walker on steroids, but there was something really great about that simple little thing imo
Playing Heart Gold and Platinum in a blue Nintendo DS Lite using a R4 was my childhood
We walked a similar path my friend
@@mistercbody the fact that people treat piracy as a crime is bizarre. If it weren't for piracy, I probably wouldn't know about Nintendo. In fact, today I bought a pink Animal Crossing edition Switch Lite.
It’s always interesting to hear when people gush over hg/ss for me because they’re imo some of the the most overrated games in the franchise. I still enjoy them nevertheless but it’s one of those games where I’m constantly thinking about the issues I have with it whilst I’m playing. From the awful level curves, limited Pokémon availability, boring and uneventful story, bland region design. One of the biggest selling points: Kanto, was also something I took issue with as it meant johto felt lacklustre, short and empty. Some people may say Kanto makes up for it, but to me, it was just 2 boring regions slapped together instead of a full complete experience.
I hear ya, I know a ton of people have those same pain points as you. I wouldn’t say Kanto necessarily compensates for how you feel because to be honest, Kanto for the most part is pretty empty aside from being able to tour around it and beat the next 8 gym leaders. No matter what though, I think they’ll always be S tier to me just because of the personal connection I have with them from the time in my life when I first experienced them - what would you consider either the most underrated or best game in your eyes?
This man really cooking tacobell rank food right here.😂
@@haroldnecmann7040 idk if I’m dumb but I’m not understanding this😭
Great video that came up in my recommendations. HG/SS really was a love letter to the fans. They went above and beyond with those titles. We’ve yet to see anything closely resembling what went into these remakes.
glad you enjoyed! and they really did go above and beyond, down to the smallest details. I've probably played through the game 5+ times since my first playthrough and I am literally never bored
The storyline of each game started becoming more and more shit after 3rd gen. Once they moved from the 3DS to the switch the quality of the games themselves fell off a cliff because gamefreak decided to do what every studio does now: release a half-finished game that "we can just patch later"
yeah exactly. i know i'm not alone in saying that i reallllly wish that wasn't the norm. that's kinda how i feel about DLC generally. don't get me wrong DLC could be great if it's used to add onto a game, but sometimes it feels like the DLC is something that should've been available from the get go, especially if you pay $60+ for the base game
"We can patch it never"😂
Nah I'd pacth
More like the story got a boost for Gen 4-5 then goes downhill like Gen 6 & beyond.
Crazy how you were 11 and embarrassed. When I had heartgold I remember being a senior in high school. And I remember playing at the beach before going to prom and the after parties. From that day playing heartgold was always the highlight. The beauty of that masterpiece had me hooked like crazy. I always love looking back at the juxtaposition of doing something reluctantly just because its what everyone else is doing (going to prom) VS doing something that my soul is excited for and makes me feel a sense of joyful wonder (playing heartgold). Even back then I knew which was the better option. I really didn't fear looking like a loser. I was like, yeah what else is new? lmao. These games were so powerful they took me away from the problems I would create in my head. Obviously none of the newer titles have had this sort of impact in my life. You just set that bar too dang high HGSS!
Hahaha yeah I was embarrassed because a lot of my friends at the time didn’t share that interest with me, so I thought I must have been too old for it or something. I clearly have grown out of that school of thought being that I just posted an almost 20 minute video talking about how much I love the games😭
@@mistercbodyyeah I get it. I was like that in other aspects of my life. But good thing we can enjoy the heck out of Pokemon now.
I play pokemon heart gold back in 2011. They set a high bar in making that game and it ends up sense a unique. Only because of the poke walker, pokemon follow you, a mini games in sport and other stuff. If they have pokemon follow you in future games, that will be unique.
Crazy. I thought I was the only that thought about the ability to play these games with just your left hand on the D-pad and your right hand with the stylus and touch screen! I’m glad someone realised the same quirk about these games!
Haha, I absolutely loved that mechanic
I hear your points. There was a huge leap in technology and the amount of content packed in HeartGold & SoulSilver is tough to beat. The jump to 3D technology, and Nintendo getting more greedy makes matters worse.
For sure. I understand you wanna turn a profit, but there’s a way to do that without sacrificing quality imo
I started with gens 3-5, with platinum, white, heart gold, and ruby, and since then I’ve played almost the entire series. By far frlg to bw2 (maybe not including original dp but I still enjoy it) was the peak of the series, but I’d say that bw2 and maybe even platinum are better than hgss due to the Pokémon distribution ans level curve. I’ve played through soul silver 4 times now for dex completion and the many grind sessions and having to fight the e4 and red 10-20 levels under really started to have its toll.
Wow yeah I could understand feeling that - especially if you’re going through the game for other reasons than the typical “become the champ”
Crazy how people are still saying gen 2 “were meant to be the final games” even after the did you know gaming video….wild
fully agree on your black and white opinion. the people who grew up with those games are now saying they are were great games all along. when they came out the games were received just as well as sword and shield with its cut national dex.
i consider BW and HGSS part of the same generation and I think that's when pokemon peaked. All downhill from there. (except maybe the framerate, that peaked on gen 3, which was the last time we had 60fps games).
Pokemon shouldn't be 60fps. It's not an action game, and its sprites aren't animated at even 30fps. You only need 60FPS for 3D games, and pokemon shouldn't be 3D either.
@@yurisei6732 Disagree. Making a game smoother is always good. Even shovel knight runs at 60 fps. The GBA games are much better than most other pokemon games just because they are smoother. It makes a world of difference. Saying a game should run at a lower framerate because it belongs to a certain genre is nonsensical. Every genre benefits from higher framerates.
@@vitgerivaz Except then you have games that deliberately crank the frame rate down again to achieve an aesthetic. And games where framerate is tied to game clock and higher framerate means everything runs faster than it should.
@@yurisei6732 that's on the programmers. Games running faster with higher frame rates is a coding issue that ideally wouldn't happen. "Aesthetic" games might be an exception but still not all of them fall under it
Emerald, platinum and soul silver…….nothing gets better than that…
Scratch emerald with black 2
Why not both🤷♂️
Theyve been my favs since they came out. I was so hyped when i heard they were making them. Crystal was such an amazing game and i was excited to go back. Crystal was the first game i could play as a girl.
They came out a year earlier in japan. I was seriously thinking about ordering a japanese ds and game so i could play sooner. If it had been a few years later i might have. They came out in the US just after i graduated high school.
Soulsilver is the only game ive picked up pokerus in game instead of receiving via traded pokemon.
I used to remember being so jealous that the games got to Japan way before the US & wow i actually completely forgot about pokerus until reading your comment. Thank you for just unlocking a memory for me lol
I'm still adamant that B/W has the best story in the franchise by far, but I may be biased because the last time I played through it I was super high, but Crystal will always be my favorite for admitably nostalgia reasons.
Lmao to your BW play through😭 - the nostalgia pill is insanely powerful tho
I honestly disagree with everything you said about Gen 5. While it's true that they don't have the same amount of content as HGSS, I feel like you tried too much to focus on what BW (or any later games) aren't instead of focusing on what they are. Then, this criticism isn't really just directed at you, but every time people say that the new Pokemon aren't good or that they don't "feel like Pokemon", I always roll my eyes because it feels like some fans just want either cute Pokemon or badass Pokemon but nothing more, and imo the series would be uninteresting if it didn't have more out there and bizarre designs. As someone who grew up with Gen 3, I wouldn't say that Gen 1-4 designs are all winners either, and designs like the Machamp line or Jynx are uncomfortable and actually more "un-Pokemon" than a lot of modern designs, and maybe this is a hot take, but Gen 6 and 7 combined have more solid Pokemon than most of Gen 4. It's okay to dislike the Pokemon of later Generations, but act like the earlier ones are all much better it's kinda unfair. The modern ones are different, sure, but they aren't less Pokemon than the previous ones (this critisim isn't directed to you).
As for HGSS or the Johto games in general I won't say too much on it with only saying, that although it is cool to see Kansai inspirations in there, I think it also suffer the same problem the 2d games, mainly Gen 1-4 have, being the regions tend to be almost identical to each other. It's definitely a hardware limitation issue but credit where's credit do, despite having problems with modern Pokémon, the regions from Unova onwards (excluding Paldea) do a better job on making the region more diverse and unique compare to HGSS Johto.
Despite my critisims, I still think the video is interesting and well made.
Thank you! Really thoughtful & fair feedback - I actually do agree with you when you said Gen 1-4 designs aren't all winners because that is VERY true lol
@@mistercbodyI actually never expected you to respond lmao. Keep in mind that, despite my disagreements, I still enjoyed the video. You did a great job 👍
@@cerealguy9979 thanks, very much appreciated🤝
@@mistercbodyalmost forgot but I would say that while BW uses more 3d, I don't don't think there's that much different graphically from HGSS.
Black and white 2 where the true peak of the series in my opinion and I say this as someone whos favourite gen is gen 4
Gen 6 was meh outside of oras which was great especially online
Gen 7 was good if a bit annoying with it's constant dialogue
Gen's 8 and 9 i haven't played
BW2 was such a fun game. I don’t know why but for some reason I bought both at release and still have them. Those are games I really need to get back and replay because it’s been too long
I've been playing consistently since Pokémon Red. HGSS are phenomenal games, but a large portion of it is most definitely nostalgia. Unfortunately, you will never be able to reach that high regardless of what GameFreak does...
They are definitely up there among the top Pokémon Games, though.
[I'm absolutely in the Black & White are best camp. How dare you pre-empt me like that 😂]
Hahahaha I’m glad you got a kick out of that comment😂 but yeah agreed, no matter what we’ll never really be able to recapture that feeling / the memories of an original play through
HGSS are amazing, but literally right after this, we got BW, and BW are the best games in the franchise bro. I actually had the same initial response to them as you did - the pokemon available just weren't as compelling as those available in HGSS, and so I didn't really like BW that much to begin with. However, BW2 added back in native access to some of the highlights from previous generations, and in doing so removed the problem that was preventing people from fully appreciating how good BW really were. And with the benefit of hindsight - 1-4 weren't all that great either. Taken as a whole, Gen 1 feels pretty generic, with the smallest proportion of designs I like; gen 2 feels forgettable, with it being hard to remember what originated in it; gen 4 leans heavily towards nostalgia baiting with new evolutions of existing pokemon (although has great legendaries and mythicals); only gen 3 I think has genuinely solid design through and through. What made HGSS feel like it had a good selection was the ability for the player to focus on what they liked most from a 400+ strong list of options. Meanwhile, gen 5 was taking the bold move of having an entire new full set of pokemon, without using anything from previous generations. It worked about as well as gen 1 did, and as a result did detract from the first playthrough experience a bit, but what you're getting everywhere else - the great visuals, the for-once decent storyline, the refined battle mechanics and the novel gameplay ideas - more than make up for it.
Ultimately, the title "best pokemon game" has to go to the one that is most replayed, and for me that's BW2.
pokemon is rated E for everyone your never to old.
I have enjoyed every pokemon game i have played & i have played from Leaf green and fire Red i dunno pokemon has a Charm in my opinion at least, my top 2 are X&Y and D&P so its why i had bias for the BDSP on the Switch i wont say its perfect but i enjoyed them i know bias but i had fun and thats what matters.
Exactly! Just cause something may not be necessarily the popular choice doesn’t mean it’s the wrong choice - everyone’s got different preferences & has a right to enjoy whatever they want
I think these games are great, cuz of course they are. But to be honest, I feel like they are overhyped and I have some personal problems as to why they're not my favorite.
1) I pretty much feel the opposite about the music as you. I think that all the extra stuff they added to the songs really ruined it for me. The Gen 2 soundfont is incredible so I'm also really biased.
2) I think this game is really slow. I get that Diamond/Pearl are slow, but these feel slow in a different way. Like how if your lead slot is using a field move, they do an animation...it's charming at first, but if you're anything like me and are still playing these games well into adulthood, it gets old and you don't appreciate it as much and also while the UI is almost all touch, I feel like it is much slower to navigate and using items feels like it takes longer than the other gen 4 games.
Anyway, those are just some reasons why I think these are stellar games, but not the best.
Completely valid opinions tbh - like I said in the video I do wish that GB sounds item was available right when you got the pokewalker (or at least relatively early in the game) because then you could choose the vibe of your entire playthrough rather than having to essentially complete everything before you get to hear the original soundtrack lol. And I feel you on the field move thing. I think it looks really nice, but if you’re over it and just trying to get through an area then it could be annoying for sure
I got HG when it came out my senior year didn't play it much went back to in when I was in college and was blown away ORAS came out shortly after. I think HGSS was amazing but gen 6 quality of life features for local and online multi-player battles and breeding were peak. I never had as much fun battling my friends as I did in gen 6. I just wish they stuck with spirtes and pixel art. 3d is alright but if gen 4 had gen 6's quality of life it would be perfect. HGSS set the bar for pokemon games it didnt kill the franchise it's just everything else hasn't reached that bar. It's crazy hearing you were 11 and might have been embarrassed of people finding out you liked Pokémon. I graduated in 2010 and I remember having a grad party and half the dudes had a pokewalker there and we were all just huddled around talking about our pokemon while everyone was getting hammered 😂
Completely agreed about wishing the pixel art style stayed. I think the 3D stuff is pretty cool but overall prefer the 2D art. And lol that’s great, I think I was so concerned when I was younger because I didn’t have many friends with similar interests as me so at that age I just assumed that meant everyone had outgrown the games / hobby even though I hadn’t. Then a couple years later I realized I just needed to find some people who share interests with me, and luckily I did!
the DS pokemon games where great playing platinum and heart gold back in the day where great tho i when i want to play a johto game i tend to play crystal rather then the remakes but still got a lot of nostalgia for heart gold
I don’t blame you, Crystal was a ton of fun & I love the way it looks and sounds overall
I feel the same way about platinum
Great game. I actually played it for the first time a few years ago and loved it. I never got it as a kid since I played the hell out of diamond
@@mistercbody same except I didn't get heartgold or soulsilver until I was an adult, so even though they are also some of my favorites, I don't have as big of a connection
How
Dude this video's going to blow up. But I feel the same exact way. Pokémon really peaked in the 4th generation, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia.
I'm not the biggest fan of gen 5 myself, probably my least favorite gen. And it's not just from the bad Pokémon designs. 4th gen just offers so many more options to enjoy the franchise.
Not only did gen 4 offer 5 main series titles, and introduce the physical special split. You could interact with so many spin-off games. Like PBR, Pokémon Ranger for the Manaphy Egg, and Pokémon Ranch etc. And you could transfer Pokémon from gen 3 with just one system.
It's crazy how the Pokémon World Championships from 2008-2010 looks better than the Championships from 2011-2013. Because the earlier ones were being rendered on the Wii using Pokémon Battle Revolution.
I could go on about this subject forever, but dude you're not wrong. Gen 4 is almost inarguably the best generation of Pokémon, and it not close. Loved this video 🔥
Thanks so much, I’m glad you like the video and hope you’re right about it blowing up😅 - really thoughtful feedback also. Pokémon ranger was an absolutely incredible game man, I played it on and off a bit recently on the same modded 3DS I showed in the vid lol. And agreed, gen 4 will always hold a special place in my heart
@@mistercbodyThe video's actually blowing up rn, it has double the views from when I 1st watched it.
Not only that, you did an outstanding job on the thumbnail and editing. And did a great job of explaining why you think gen 4 is the best. Without discrediting others gens, all while avoiding a potential gen war in the comments.
Your video's definitely being pushed through the algorithm. Because I was randomly recommended it, and I'm glad I was.
@@sogieazul thanks so much! I tried to do my best to not make it sound like I was trying to diss anyone else’s favorites because we all have our own opinions. None of them are wrong
I disagree, Pokémon Black2 and White2 are the best Pokémon game but not Black and White they are not as good as people say they are, Pokémon Black2 and White2 are better in every way from Black and White minus the story.
Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver suffer the same problems as Pokémon Gold and Silver: The Story, Map design, Pokémon quality and quantity in the main game for player and NPC's to use these all problems should have been fixed in Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver and I am very disappointed in that part.
Yeah I understand where you’re coming from - there are some things that definitely could’ve been worked out differently, but I was overall stoked on the game honestly
These games are kinda overrated and carried by nostalgia. If you want to talk about post game content , black /white 2 have these games beat in every way.
Nostalgia is a massive factor behind my sentiment towards them for sure. Besides that though, all the other reasons I mentioned just put them in my top favorites in the franchise
Gen5 is overrated
@@KnightSoulsG how is it overrated if gen 5 was hated for the first years they were out? People talk about gen 2 like it can do no wrong.
@@erickluviano981 Because nowadays everyone is overpraising it annoying
@@KnightSoulsGfacts
From what I understand, these games were major projects with the goal of getting the vast majority of people to get into them so they could experience what gen 2 had to offer whether they played the old games or not. All the effort was intentional. Sounds crazy to say it like this, but there was never supposed to be a pokemon game as good as this one. The whole peaking thing was intentional. They promised so much in HGSS and they delivered on nearly everything they promised. Newer games get one or 2 big things right and then the rest is meh. Case in point: X & Y is flashy cool crap with mega evolutions and stuff, but I HATED the lack of difficulty these games had. That alone made me a hater of X&Y. B&W, fine story and graphics but the amount of unnecessary mediocre new pokemon designs...like why? *TLDR: HGSS did a lot of big things right. No cutting corners. Because it was their last big passion project.* Though you could argue black and white were the last big passion project I suppose.
Wow, yeah great point. I knew they were meant to be the ultimate Pokemon experience back in the day, but didn’t really think about how that implication could rub off onto the other titles besides them just not living up to HGSS in one way or another. I don’t know if it was necessarily intended for the following games to fall short (many people would argue with me and say that newer titles didn’t fall short)
@@mistercbody Yeah poor choice of words when I said "peaking was intentional." More like "it was naturally bound to happen." And yes if a game does a few things right people will latch on to that and say that new game is good too. Like "OMG ORAS has megas and all this cool stuff! Can't top that!" type of arguments.
Tbh, the amount of unnecessary Pokemon is a thing from every Gen, not just Gen 5. Half of Gen 2 Pokemon imo are exactly like that.
I don’t get why people like black and white so much, yeah it might look good but almost everything is pretty forgettable
i think the story's pretty great, and it just felt really new and fresh with a brand new region to explore, new pokemon, etc. so although i wouldn't say it's my absolute favorite game, i did really like it
i've never been so inclined to call someone enjoying a gen 4 game a genwunner
lol watch the full video and lmk if you still feel that way my friend! i definitely don't hate all the games that followed
So you are a condescending purist. Got it.
If that is what you want to consider it friend👍
I mean I disagree with him too but I'm at least thinking about explaining why. The only thing you accomplish by being snide and passive aggressive is making the detractors of his opinion look like idiots, which you are.