How a Kick Cost GWS an AFL Premiership

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  • čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
  • IG: / jaggerskilbeck
    Thanks to Nick McPhate for writing this piece.
    What If's are fascinating footy topics, especially those that involve long-winded ripple effects. When Nick sent me the concept and script for this video I couldn't say no. Dustin Martin creates some impressive butterfly effects.
    Thanks for watching!
    / jworld110
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  • @timwillcoxfunnyguy
    @timwillcoxfunnyguy Před 2 lety +675

    Really enjoy these, not enough AFL content like this out there

  • @sauce2383
    @sauce2383 Před 2 lety +266

    Honestly if the AFL was a global sport your channel would be so huge, all us Australians appreciate you

    • @tsukiyunoda
      @tsukiyunoda Před 2 lety

      Do you reckon it should go global ?

    • @HudHudProductions
      @HudHudProductions Před 2 lety +3

      @@tsukiyunoda they should at least add a NZ team like the NRL

    • @HudHudProductions
      @HudHudProductions Před 2 lety

      @J G yeah I love the part where they score a goal every game

    • @tsukiyunoda
      @tsukiyunoda Před 2 lety

      @J G Wikipedia steals your IP address be careful dude

    • @hamishphistopholoes6540
      @hamishphistopholoes6540 Před 2 lety

      @J G Soccer: beloved by lady boys the world over...

  • @djstorey
    @djstorey Před 2 lety +276

    Wow. Almost scary to think how much of an impact one kick has had on a whole decade, elite work mate

  • @BD-yl5mh
    @BD-yl5mh Před 2 lety +121

    Someone needs to track down McMahon and show him this
    This is one of the things I love about footy. It’s a distillation of the butterfly effect. You normally can’t pin it all down to single moments like this but every single thing that happens at a club becomes part of its story, and whenever that club achieves success, all of that stuff was part of that story.

  • @versaarchi
    @versaarchi Před 2 lety +481

    As a tiger's fan, this is the scariest alternate reality.

    • @versaarchi
      @versaarchi Před 2 lety +1

      @Sasha Taylor Rocky ride indeed

    • @cryptic6917
      @cryptic6917 Před 2 lety +1

      it'd be a scary alternate reality for the whole league really if Jordy McMahon missed

    • @BlackGateofMordor
      @BlackGateofMordor Před 2 lety +11

      I remember watching this moment in the stands, and for whatever reason at the time it felt breathtaking, like something miraculous had occurred. If only I had known at the time just how good it was.

    • @zachmair7299
      @zachmair7299 Před 2 lety +9

      As a giants fan im pissed

    • @versaarchi
      @versaarchi Před 2 lety +1

      @@zachmair7299 Oh I can imagine your pain.

  • @ShezzasVideos
    @ShezzasVideos Před 2 lety +237

    Thank you for coming back mate. We love the content

  • @andrewjameskelly7991
    @andrewjameskelly7991 Před 2 lety +10

    Can’t believe I was at that game as a Melbourne fan. I remember it so vividly, the crowd going nuts as the ball went through was honestly heart crushing as a 8 year old

  • @brendezen
    @brendezen Před 2 lety +11

    Easily the best footy channel out there. Quality over quantity. Appreciate your unique style of storytelling. Your content is timeless and will become classic over time and a legacy you can leave behind.

  • @klokar21
    @klokar21 Před 2 lety +22

    i would love to see a video on Geelong and their unparralled stay at the top end of the ladder, your content is amazing and there is nothing else like this

  • @the_vortexian
    @the_vortexian Před 2 lety +86

    as a Giants fan this hurts a lot, thanks!

    • @darcy399
      @darcy399 Před 2 lety +2

      on behalf of him no worries hopefully you can get one later this decade

    • @the_vortexian
      @the_vortexian Před 2 lety +3

      @@darcy399 should’ve had one in 2016, 2019 maybe if we didn’t shit the bed

    • @TotalDramaOwenandNoah
      @TotalDramaOwenandNoah Před 2 lety +1

      @@the_vortexian yeah you should have easily won that preliminary in 2016 and beat the swans in the gf, 2019, maybe not, Richmond were dominating the finals

    • @oldmate6005
      @oldmate6005 Před 2 lety +1

      @@the_vortexian sneaky chance this year

    • @Adroyo
      @Adroyo Před 2 lety

      We've finished 7th now mate, we got this haha.

  • @Rapsciddy31
    @Rapsciddy31 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you sir for providing content like this for the AFL. As a 2014 CZcams-raised nba fan where I would spend 25 hours a day watching and learning more about the sport of basketball at the highest level. I can commend content like this for the best sport in the world.
    You’ll be reaching people across the globe, heck I’m the only person who know who Giannis is at my Aussie school. And this content can translate that for AFL fans too. Keep grinding my brother, good things are most sure to come.

  • @TheAlphaDingo
    @TheAlphaDingo Před 2 lety +12

    Great video and an amazing 'what if' scenario to ponder. As a long suffering Tigers fan, this truly was a monumental moment that helped transform the trajectory of the club. Funnily enough, I still remember being upset with some Melbourne supporting mates who gloated that tanking and getting picks 1 and 2 was better than a meaningless win. I remember being sad that a number 1 pick in Scully who was a Tigers fan growing up, and who could have been a messiah type figure to rescue the club from mediocrity would be playing for another team. Funny how things work out. Dusty became that figure. Though on a side note, it's a shame to see highly promising careers never materialise due to injuries and other factors. Would have loved to have seen both Scully and Trengrove fulfill their potential - and Vickery and Tambling for that matter too. Both were, are and have been maligned but their contributions here were vital and at the end of the day, they are people just trying to live their lives who don't deserve abuse and ridicule. Had the pleasure of meeting Tambling once during a preseaon visit to my home town growing up and he was polite, friendly and nothing but a good bloke.

  • @JBRAI22
    @JBRAI22 Před 10 měsíci +1

    0:26 as a Collingwood supporter that sent some bad memories to me, good thing we came back and one in 2023, GO PIES

  • @Spratdragon
    @Spratdragon Před 2 lety +10

    I can see the amount of hard work put into this. Just cracked a beer and really enjoyed this. Made my night after Richmonds terrible season. Thank you.

  • @bronteb8762
    @bronteb8762 Před 2 lety +11

    You are bloody good at working this butterfly effect mate!
    - as a Crows fan, I say that Richard Tambling kick may have cost us a premiership as well :D

  • @xmjordy332
    @xmjordy332 Před 2 lety +30

    love this! even as a tigers fan. a unique perspective that no one really has tried for AFL. keep up the great work!

  • @thedarkman4901
    @thedarkman4901 Před 2 lety +2

    I like these scenarios as they play in facets of life & history.
    A guy on FB put forward a theory about a Hawthorn/Melbourne match late in the 1964 season. Melbourne win a tight match in the last minute at Glenferrie, win the minor premiership by half a game from three other teams with Hawthorn 1 game out of the 4.
    Had Hawthorn won, Melbourne don’t win the premiership, Norm Smith is asked to step aside & Barassi becomes captain/coach. Under Barassi, Melbourne win more premierships & avoid being a joke for 57 years.

  • @notploper5630
    @notploper5630 Před 2 lety +5

    You should do a video on Issac smith’s miss after the siren against Geelong in 2016 and how it potentially cost Hawthorn a 4th premiership in a row. Love the videos man

  • @sammaniatis7039
    @sammaniatis7039 Před 2 lety +4

    I was at that Melb v Rich game and I saw Melb leading and switching the players from defence to attack to throw the game.
    The other great tanking game of all time was Rich v StKilda, last game of 2007, Tigers coach Terry Wallace took off Richardson, Brown and Bowden so the Saints could get up to win.
    This enabled the Tigers to get Trent Cotchin in the draft at number 2.

    • @ChannelBlaino
      @ChannelBlaino Před 2 lety

      Don't forget the Kreuzer cup between Carlton and Melbourne in 2007, both sides trying too loose.

    • @sentimentalbloke185
      @sentimentalbloke185 Před 2 lety

      @@ChannelBlaino Kruezer went one, Cotchin two. Richmond finished last & should've had #1 but the league decided to give Carlton #1 as a comp pick.

    • @planetx1595
      @planetx1595 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ChannelBlaino loose = not firmly or tightly fixed in place
      lose = the opposite of win

  • @zachgratton1488
    @zachgratton1488 Před 2 lety +2

    Good job. The Sam Mitchell tackle is another one. Saved Clarkos job in 2010 and eventually lead to the three-peat.

  • @RayNoorAly
    @RayNoorAly Před 2 lety

    Your analysis is always a joy to watch. Thank you for making these.

  • @tynanwarren9211
    @tynanwarren9211 Před 2 lety

    I look forward to these videos they are by far some of my favourite footy content, keep it up man I love it!

  • @litespeed2191
    @litespeed2191 Před 2 lety +1

    Holy shit, dude. Such a well put together video. On my 3rd watch now, can't believe it...makes me wonder how many other game-changing scenarios on a similar level were so close to happening...this is definitely up there with some of the biggest though, for sure
    Very well done, appreciate this

  • @zach336
    @zach336 Před 2 lety

    This is brilliant, love your work! Firstly the concept, and then the research that's gone into this... Can't wait for more

  • @AussieAzure
    @AussieAzure Před 2 lety +3

    Found you on my recommended. This is some of the best AFL content out there

  • @samcrispino821
    @samcrispino821 Před 2 lety +11

    Love your editing and your content in general!

  • @aussiefinley
    @aussiefinley Před 2 lety +1

    this came out on birthday, good YT vids always seems to come out on my birthday!

  • @peterdickerson5653
    @peterdickerson5653 Před 2 lety

    This is a truly wonderful and amazing story. Thank you for your beautiful presentation, editing, and commentary.

  • @kingcrom6799
    @kingcrom6799 Před 2 lety +11

    Great video as always mate. Always after more AFL content on CZcams. Like the way that you didn't bag Melbourne for picking Scully and Trengrove, instead putting us in the position of the recruiters at the time, where there was a clear top 2, even though Dusty has clearly turned out better. Have got a couple of videos over on my channel if you love AFL that you may enjoy, with more videos in the pipeline soon.

    • @samuelleighton2779
      @samuelleighton2779 Před 2 lety

      Crazy that they were comparing kane cornea to scully, scully is alot more explosive Kane only had one speed

  • @mintotv8395
    @mintotv8395 Před 2 lety +1

    Glad to see your content finally getting some recognition great stuff

  • @GenerationExcrement
    @GenerationExcrement Před 2 lety

    I have 100% been talking about this to fellow Richmond fans for YEARS now (add in the fact we gave up pick 21 to get McMahon (Callan Ward - captain of GWS), BUT I could never have put this as eloquently, sequentially and convincingly as you did...WELL DONE!

  • @harryholden795
    @harryholden795 Před 2 lety

    Another great video. The quality of your content is insanely good, especially with your channel size

  • @Josh-xi1qx
    @Josh-xi1qx Před 2 lety

    This is an exceptional video mate, I’m not a huge afl fan and I was unaware of your channel before seeing this video in my feed but I really enjoyed watching, keep it up

  • @mal1760
    @mal1760 Před rokem

    What a great video! I was riveted from start to finish. More please!

  • @raph770
    @raph770 Před 2 lety

    I was behind the goals in that game and was walking out thinking we (Richmond) had lost, when I heard a roar. I realised McMahon was having a shot after the siren and said to my kids "Wait - this doesn't happen often! Let's watch - he'll probably miss..." Of course he didn't, and the rest is history. Fascinating to think what the AFL landscape wouldn't been like if Dusty had not gone to Richmond. Great video!

  • @NicholasTurnbull96
    @NicholasTurnbull96 Před 2 lety +1

    Awesome content. Love love love this sort of work for AFL

  • @aamslfc
    @aamslfc Před 2 lety

    Fucking brilliant video, mate. I love a good 'What if?' scenario, and this was fantastic to watch.
    Incredible to think how one passage of play in a dead rubber between two then-mediocre sides could dictate the next decade of AFL football.
    And who would have thought that Ben Cousins, of all people, would have such an important role in setting it all up. The ageing genius in a sea of bog-standard footballers, a superstar of the late 90s/early 00s, at the end of his career helping to create the dynasty of the 2010s.

  • @HH-je3sh
    @HH-je3sh Před 2 lety +32

    No one:
    Jagger Skillbeck: Dustin Martin doesn’t go to Richmond and this causes WW3

  • @WhyForWhatNow
    @WhyForWhatNow Před 2 lety

    That final play narration gave me goosebumps
    This video is superb!

  • @mitchcricelli4071
    @mitchcricelli4071 Před 2 lety

    Your videos are literally what I need in life. AFL need to hire you

  • @nickbishop4118
    @nickbishop4118 Před 2 lety +1

    he’s back!! i love your content mate and i’m sure the rest of us do as well keep it up mate!

  • @hazjay4108
    @hazjay4108 Před 2 lety

    wow, this is simply incredible, i dont ever comment on videos on youtube but this just deserves alot of credit

  • @camwells9726
    @camwells9726 Před 2 lety

    I was at that game , Melbourne supporters were celebrating Richmond had won poking fun at Richmond supporters after the siren singing the Richmond song. Pretty funny how it turned out .
    It was similar to Richmond picking Tambling ahead of Franklin.

  • @mobbsey
    @mobbsey Před 2 lety +2

    *this bouta be a movie haha.*
    Love your content mate!!

  • @ashleyharry9067
    @ashleyharry9067 Před 2 lety +2

    Again. Absolutely brilliant video mate

  • @patrickjamesabade5775
    @patrickjamesabade5775 Před 2 lety +1

    This was incredible - well done mate!

  • @felixconboy1156
    @felixconboy1156 Před 2 lety

    I love these afl doco things. Thet are so interesting. Really great job.

  • @anguseverist4178
    @anguseverist4178 Před 2 lety

    The idea that Tom Lynch is a pillar of anything except worst misses videos is hilarious.

  • @ryaneyre5093
    @ryaneyre5093 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating. Plenty of what ifs but it's interesting to analyse and think about.

  • @Medaiyah
    @Medaiyah Před 2 lety +1

    This is a scary good analysis. AFL needs more deep dive analysis like this, there are so many stories to be told and picked apart in the game and it's so rare to find someone willing to do it.

    • @chinboy66
      @chinboy66 Před 2 lety

      Or you could just watch the footy.

  • @leonsteed1243
    @leonsteed1243 Před 2 lety

    This. Is. Brilliant. Great sliding doors story. Well done man 👍👌

  • @hue4161
    @hue4161 Před 2 lety

    Your videos are always so entertaining, please do not stop making these videos lol

  • @herbertnosworthy1
    @herbertnosworthy1 Před rokem

    This is gold! Masterpiece.

  • @philthy4242
    @philthy4242 Před 2 lety

    Mate I just found this vid in my feed. Forget your other stuff, this content is awesome. Reminds me of the channel Secret Base but for us Aussies. Keep it up.

  • @bishgroundwork3089
    @bishgroundwork3089 Před 2 lety

    U had me glued... this is like a crime thriller.

  • @lil_freshaussie6965
    @lil_freshaussie6965 Před 2 lety

    honestly one of the best videos i’ve watched

  • @jaskeeretsingh4583
    @jaskeeretsingh4583 Před 2 lety

    No words to describe this content. Bloody awesome mate

  • @fredvalentine9540
    @fredvalentine9540 Před 2 lety +1

    Jagger Skilbeck and Jimmy Highroller are the best you tubers out there

  • @clemboston4723
    @clemboston4723 Před 2 lety +3

    Love your work mate keep it up 👍

  • @louiedagoatie1640
    @louiedagoatie1640 Před 2 lety

    He’s backkkk! Love your content bro, the AFL needs to hire you!

  • @joshblackley7024
    @joshblackley7024 Před 2 lety

    Great vid mate, more AFL ones like this please!

  • @dylanevans8626
    @dylanevans8626 Před 2 lety

    sic content, love this, good work mate.

  • @sampled611
    @sampled611 Před 2 lety

    this is hands down the best afl vid i have ever watched

  • @depressedessendonfan5702

    This needs to be seen by a LOT more people

  • @fhristopher
    @fhristopher Před 2 lety +5

    When Dusty was talking to GWS I felt like my wife was leaving me for someone else.

  • @themaster7552
    @themaster7552 Před 2 lety +3

    A legend has returned

  • @trship6274
    @trship6274 Před 2 lety

    Hindsight’s a beautiful thing. Great vid 😊

  • @dmann7004
    @dmann7004 Před 2 lety +5

    Very impressive research and a great “what if” worthy of some serious discussion. Earned a like and a rare Subscribe from me. Well done 👍

  • @willhamilton6880
    @willhamilton6880 Před 2 lety

    You are unreal mate, I absolutely love these videos!!!

  • @jasonmarcolin3140
    @jasonmarcolin3140 Před 2 lety

    jagger your such a fkn legend welcome back mate

  • @pcorf
    @pcorf Před 2 lety

    Richmond drafted Martin and made the finals in 2013 (their first finals since 2001) and eventually won 3 premierships and Melbourne continued to struggle but these struggles led to good picks esp Petracca, Oliver, and the 2009 draft steal Max Gawn. In 2017 Melbourne missed the finals by a kick but in 2018 Melbourne were on the rise and made the finals but went down hard with injuries and poor play, but then came 2021 when they were able to field a healthy team, regrouped and the rest was history.

  • @Walshy9494
    @Walshy9494 Před 2 lety

    Great video dude. Cold shivers and I go for west coast

  • @simonfazio6597
    @simonfazio6597 Před 2 lety

    I was there the day of ~ the kick ~ and it was by far the most bizarre day at the footy I've ever been to. Melbourne fans were singing the song louder than we were

    • @bullshitumpire
      @bullshitumpire Před 2 lety

      Coach Rawlings to players: "You almost lost to a team that wasn't trying." The next month showed how dire Richmond's stocks were.

  • @exxcaliburs6002
    @exxcaliburs6002 Před 2 lety

    And thus led to Melbourne 2021 season. What a turn up!

  • @Dale_Doback
    @Dale_Doback Před 2 lety +13

    not to mention the Crows might of been 2017 Premiers 😭😭😭

  • @ST-cp6fn
    @ST-cp6fn Před 2 lety

    Love this kinda stuff mate! top notch

  • @jackmcgill7274
    @jackmcgill7274 Před 2 lety

    Best account on CZcams. Love the content man

  • @leeburgers2444
    @leeburgers2444 Před 2 lety +2

    Canadian here just getting into it. Love this stuff because it helps me become more acquainted. Gotta find a team and join one of the the global packages that let me see every game and that!

    • @umey3445
      @umey3445 Před 2 lety

      Hope you’ve been watching, it’s gonna be a ripper of a grand final next week

    • @leeburgers2444
      @leeburgers2444 Před 2 lety

      @@umey3445 I'm gonna have to pay for a membership next year so I don't miss out. It was tough to see some stuff

  • @nickcowling2744
    @nickcowling2744 Před 2 lety

    Amazing video. Just subscribed to the channel. Looking forward to watching more

  • @lukeforman7786
    @lukeforman7786 Před 2 lety

    Excellent video - thank you 🙏

  • @shortysmum4565
    @shortysmum4565 Před 2 lety +1

    This guys brain is on another level

  • @joel1365
    @joel1365 Před 2 lety

    the best video i have ever watched, love the content mate.

  • @jamesthompson7623
    @jamesthompson7623 Před 2 lety

    Love it mate hopefully we can still push for a 4th b4 Dusty retires. What a crazy decade it’s been. Thinking of the challenge by the group who wanted Dimma Peggy etc out. If that happens and a clear out of players occurs we could be looking at no flags and a couple more wooden spoons for good measure. Yet no one would have known what doing that had actually cost the club bloody scary.

  • @TotalDramaOwenandNoah
    @TotalDramaOwenandNoah Před 2 lety +1

    You’re back! Talk about a miracle

  • @samuelandreoli5061
    @samuelandreoli5061 Před 2 lety

    Loving the vids at the moment, keep it up mate!

  • @gusdoes5149
    @gusdoes5149 Před 2 lety

    love this mate, please do more like this!

  • @markharrison6498
    @markharrison6498 Před 2 lety

    This is an impressively well thought out what if

  • @user-ee3mw7cy1d
    @user-ee3mw7cy1d Před 2 lety

    Mate I’m addicted to your doco’s very sharp stuff...poor old Jordy McMahon give us a 6 minute special on him

  • @marcusgrosomanidis3396

    I was at this game when I was like 6 years old. Great video

  • @FootyA2Z
    @FootyA2Z Před 2 lety +1

    Great to see you back mate! good stuff :)

  • @Huss_D
    @Huss_D Před 2 lety

    Really well made video mate!

  • @mattm400
    @mattm400 Před 2 lety

    Fantastic video. I love this type of content.

  • @Jack-fq2kz
    @Jack-fq2kz Před 2 lety

    bro these are fire, crazy to think how it couldve ended up like this

  • @jacksonfitzgerald235
    @jacksonfitzgerald235 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your content mate would love to see something on Carlton and what’s gone wrong all these year

  • @vweze4470
    @vweze4470 Před 2 lety

    always love your videos brother, talented asf x

  • @timbojones7066
    @timbojones7066 Před 2 lety

    What a terrific video. Had me captivated.

  • @Ashley-rx9ew
    @Ashley-rx9ew Před 2 lety +3

    This is brilliant. One of the best AFL documentaries I’ve ever seen. Stunning job well done

  • @darthwind3048
    @darthwind3048 Před 2 lety

    Good to see you back

  • @lachiekerr2808
    @lachiekerr2808 Před 2 lety

    incredible. love these vids mate

  • @bigal4109
    @bigal4109 Před 2 lety

    Best AFL content around gotta do a video of the hawthorn dominance from 2011-2015 4 grand finals in a row and a 5point prelim loss would be good to see the content that would create