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League's MOST HATED Champion. The Truth About Zed.

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  • čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
  • Zed is historically one of the most banend champion in League Of Legends. In this video we are going to be talking about Zed and why does the league community hate him so much.
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    Outro song: it's different - Shadows (feat. Miss Mary) [NCS Release]
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    0:00 Intro
    0:13 RIOT About Zed
    3:31 Tyler1 vs Zed
    4:59 Zed In Pro Leagues
    5:33 Nemesis Plays Zed
    7:28 Baus About Zed
    8:43 Onzed About The State Of Zed
    9:07 Banning Zed?
    9:35 Conclusion
    11:24 Outro

Komentáře • 270

  • @Fiddlezahar
    @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +13

    Credits To All The Streamers Who Appeared In The Video:
    0:13 Riot August - www.twitch.tv/augustuwu
    3:31 Tyler1 - www.twitch.tv/loltyler1
    5:33 Nemesis - www.twitch.tv/lol_nemesis
    7:28 Baus - www.twitch.tv/thebausffs
    8:43 Onzed - www.youtube.com/@onzed0604

    • @ArantyrDarkhand
      @ArantyrDarkhand Před 3 měsíci

      I like Zed, but hes so bad... you need your ult and hit 3 stars from the 3 shadows to kill a squishy.
      Akali and Kayn, Ahri are frustrating to play agains, they blow you without R, they have FREE SAFE 100% secure mobility. And they press R and kill even if you are 100%.

  • @leancamo800
    @leancamo800 Před 4 měsíci +76

    "Zed us the most hated champion of all time"
    Yummi: "Allow me to introduce myself"

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +8

      xd at least she is nerfed to the ground

  • @satorrotas93
    @satorrotas93 Před 4 měsíci +56

    Even before I started playing Zed I never thought he was broken or hard to counter. I’d much rather play against a good Zed than a bad Fizz or Akali player who will just one shot the entire back line anyway without really trying and with less counterplay.

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +4

      trueeee

    • @hellohooman8962
      @hellohooman8962 Před 4 měsíci +1

      This.

    • @RagingRevine
      @RagingRevine Před 3 měsíci +2

      I find that having hate towards him before the game begins already makes you play worse against him which just further fuels the urge to ban.

    • @williamlindroos2250
      @williamlindroos2250 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Yeah zed is easy to counteprlay, you only have to play a champ that is equally disgusting

  • @fatesaria582
    @fatesaria582 Před 4 měsíci +23

    bro zed is not a villan , he was a good guy who fell in darkness to have a power for fighting against darius and his country . In terms of homeland loving , zed is on of the best ionian guy who tries to save his country .

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +1

    • @aathried
      @aathried Před 4 měsíci +1

      He drains Ionia's magic to fight Noxus, you can say he is anti-hero but not a good guy

    • @johnakkman9993
      @johnakkman9993 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@aathried agreed. He does bad things for a good cause.

  • @kentuckyfriedchildren5385
    @kentuckyfriedchildren5385 Před 4 měsíci +106

    I never understood why people hate zed, I've never thought he was frustrating to play against, plenty of champions with less counterplay. If I lose to a zed I know it's because he's good and not because he is playing some op champ with 0 counterplay. If I get chunked by a zed combo i'm not mad at the zed taking half my health, i'm mad at myself for not spacing well and not dodging the q's. He's a very skill expressive champ and I respect that. Everyone won't shut up about zed and yone one shotting, but showing a 10/0 assassin one shotting an adc is not showcasing anything overpowered, that's how assassins should work.

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +18

      Well said. I think people who actually tried playing Zed are not mad about losing to Zed ^^

    • @kentuckyfriedchildren5385
      @kentuckyfriedchildren5385 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Fiddlezahar Facts

    • @zoborfuture
      @zoborfuture Před 4 měsíci +1

      factos. i'd rather direct my rage against a pantheon abuser who has a point and click engage that takes off 75% of your health bar and then fucks off with full immunity or just sticks around and ends you with one push of a button because apparently it's fair to have a zero cast time execute on a 3 second cooldown.

    • @lessgoo3428
      @lessgoo3428 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ​@@zoborfuturenah pantheon is trash if u have 100 iq minimum

    • @DK-bj9hx
      @DK-bj9hx Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lessgoo3428hes one dimensional but definitely wouldnt vall him trash with the new items

  • @miltondanilo5109
    @miltondanilo5109 Před 4 měsíci +11

    I remember when I just got into league (s5) I was playing Ryze midlane vs a random Zed player
    He ulted me and when he finished his combo I flashed, started recalling and then explode
    I was playing with some friends and said “wtf was that? He didn’t hit me, I just died under tower”
    They told me it was his ultimate
    I just said “damn that’s cool” and started to play him from time to time
    I don’t find Zed annoying , it’s the coolest champ in the game lmao
    Pointless story but felt like it was a good place to bring it😂

  • @DMG6124
    @DMG6124 Před 4 měsíci +25

    we love zed and you tho! keep going bro

  • @nirmhoss
    @nirmhoss Před 4 měsíci +18

    Honestly, I don't understand why so many people think of him as a villain in the lore. He simply defends his homeland, and for this he is ready to do anything. Perhaps without him there would be no Ionia.

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Well said

    • @fsevend6297
      @fsevend6297 Před 4 měsíci

      hes like the paul atreidis of ionia

    • @jamesgrillage8086
      @jamesgrillage8086 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Thats the new lore. In the old lore he was a pupil alongside shen and wanted more power so he obtained the dark powers of his shadows and his master banished him so he gained some followers of his own, went back and killed him

  • @einjharrelraca
    @einjharrelraca Před 4 měsíci +1

    the issue with zed is that he ALONE determines your lane. against an acceptable zed player, not a good zed player, an acceptable zed player the best you can possibly do is go even, because thanks to his 925 range q (275 longer than caitlyn auto range) with a very low cooldown you can never zone him off of cs completely, and once he has a dirk he can instant clear back minions with his shadow mimic, so you just never have an opportunity to punish him unless he fucks up.

  • @tomaskuban2399
    @tomaskuban2399 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Nicely said👌though still want to bring back prowlers and hydra to feel that combo for first time

  • @nimo6199
    @nimo6199 Před 4 měsíci +3

    there was a time where i permabanned zed because i didnt understand his kit and how to play against it. Now i'm never banning zed again (often because i want to play him) because i know very good how he works.

  • @redpanpan7979
    @redpanpan7979 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Ahri mage meta is the MOST frustrating out of any mage.

  • @blazguzelj7880
    @blazguzelj7880 Před 4 měsíci +176

    all the noobs hate zed

    • @daltobog6640
      @daltobog6640 Před 4 měsíci +8

      this is real true

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +32

      the truth has been spoken

    • @Was_los_Bruda
      @Was_los_Bruda Před 4 měsíci +1

      😂real

    • @whiteshadow9000
      @whiteshadow9000 Před 4 měsíci

      I don't understand bro, is Zed strong or weak right now?

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +9

      He is balanced right now, not too weak not too strong imo@@whiteshadow9000

  • @Desiderium
    @Desiderium Před 4 měsíci +2

    This is a well-made video and does a great job covering Zed's history. Hopefully Riot changes their stance on Zed because I think it's stupid to purposefully balance a champion beneath what they should be just because of player sentiment.

  • @norve5436
    @norve5436 Před 4 měsíci +2

    for me i just switched from Yasuo to Zed and i’m really liking it as a mid and jgl got my 106k points and the mastery 7 already
    i’ve been playing league for 4 months and i’m really liking that zed thing tbh
    i’m silver now and i hope i can climb more with the SHADOWS MASTER

    • @sevaneken3461
      @sevaneken3461 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Hopefully you climb bcs il silver he's like always banned but diamond and more players are not even afraid of zed. Bcs they all know he's vulnerable to cc and and likes isolated targets

  • @Tiagocf2
    @Tiagocf2 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I really dislike ZED and think he is bad designed for a number of reasons, and all your arguments can be refuted by what the Rioters said, Zed is not that strong because he's toxic and must be kept weak, and that's a design issue.
    To begin with, Zed has 2 INSTANT teleports, a point and click nuke and invulnerability, also he uses no mana and has in-built energy regen so having energy isnt even a issue if you play good enough. He is fun exactly because he has that many tools, it's pretty much why champions like Lee Sin, Yasuo, Irelia are fun, because you never run out of options and have a lot of tools at your disposal.
    "Oh but he has strong counters like CC" - Bro that's not even a specific counter, CC counters anyone, also good luck landing a CC in a champion that has 2 instant teleports and imunity frames. His only hard counter is stasis and that's gatekept behind Zhonyas. You can easily dodge his shurikens, but what if there was 3 shurikens comming from different angles? not so easy now... i would say that you cant dodge that, it's more a matter of if zed will manage to hit you. You have no control and no say when playing against him
    That's why people hate him, he's too erratic and all around, you cant counter the teleports without straight up guessing where he'll be, meanwhile he can very easily outplay you with the amount of tools he has. You can't even count on hitting him when he leaves Ult because he can instantly teleport to his shadow if he setup it beforehand. He's too safe.
    Now let's compare him to a champion I know have strong and defined weaknesses: ILLAOI
    She does a lot of damage, but all her abilities are well telegraphed and you can react to everything if you're fast enough, you can destroy her passive tentacles and outspace her pretty easily because she is slow.
    As for Zed, the only counter is CCing or killing him before he goes back to his shadow and pray to not be one shotted by his ulti (or buy zhonyas)
    Riot should 100% rework him. Personally I hate manaless champions because of infinite sustain and mindless ability spam, so I would give him mana. Also make his teleports have a slight windup like 0.2s so you can properly react to it. Them you can properly introduce him into the game without it being so toxic and give him some compensation accordingly

    • @sasailicc
      @sasailicc Před 4 měsíci

      That is what i am talking about when i say that he is too much safe and other assasins just struggle way to much to lane vs mages comparing to zed. I am zed main and i admit that, i dont know why is so hard for others to admit that his kit is absurd

  • @crashbandicootnerd4321
    @crashbandicootnerd4321 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Sorry Fiddle, but with all the old and new cancer champs in the game (COUGH COUGH ZOE, COUGH COUGH AKALI AND FUCKING SMOLDER), I'd say Zed isn't as hated as he used to be.

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +3

      Still his win-rate is kinda high like it always was haha

  • @miwacoaching
    @miwacoaching Před 4 měsíci

    Saying "people ban it because they don't like to admit they got outplayed" is a very offputting way to end it. A big reason why the champ gets banned is how uninteractive it is for many champs (Xerath, Kass, Tf, ...). It's generally not enjoyable to play either side of an uninteractive lane (which is how most people will approach playing Xerath vs Zed and similarly Zed vs Malphite or something). Also the concept of "getting outplayed" is generally very subjective, you can say you outplayed a Twisted fate because you dodged his gold card with your ult but that is VERY Zed favored and in the case of having a good reaction time or scripting you win it 10/10 times with nothing the Tf can do (of course there is the question of why he put himself in that position in the first place but it's just to serve as an example). Zed has many cases where the situation is heavily skewed towards either the opponent or himself. Beside that there are also many cases where he forces a zero interaction situation. Sidelaning as Zed vs Fiora means both will never have any kill potential without committing anything. On top of that the champ getting ahead means that R E + Autos will kill you on most squishy champs. This is further exacerbated by the existence of Voltaic cyclosword which both adds point and click damage AND makes his Q undodgable.
    Another reason is that the champ also requires you to punish it within it's cooldown windows, trades, ... among other things. The person otping that champ will have much more practice in most matchups than the people queueing into the niche scenario. That makes it one of the more otp favored champs where champion and matchup mastery tends to matter more than game mastery often times. (So you can say the Zed player is worse than you but you are losing, similarly to how Nidalee/Draven/... players can cheat the game)
    This only showcases a few examples outside of "ohh people don't want to get outplayed by my champ we are so good" which makes the whole thing come off as otp cope while it was otherwise reasonable enough.

  • @HorrorVibe8694
    @HorrorVibe8694 Před 4 měsíci +1

    "I'm from Diamond 3 to Emerald 3 because I keep playing this champ... I just don't care about winning or losing anymore; it's just fun and satisfying to outplay enemies and hit 3 Q's

  • @TheChosenOne1881
    @TheChosenOne1881 Před 4 měsíci

    Filip bro! Just wanted to let you know that you'll always be remembered. You're highly underrated, but keep up the great work! Bless you! ❤🔥

  • @VOID-bf1xs
    @VOID-bf1xs Před 4 měsíci +2

    i perma bann zed not cuz i can't deal with him but cuz his roams are 90% of the times flawless ! i deal with him properly yet he still feeds on the adc or jungler or he can dive a 30% life top any day of the week and type "ez" then comeback lane with item advantage ! he might be a hard champ to play but his basic full combo can easily destroy any adc on fights that don't last more than 4~6 seconds so even walking up to your team mate with a zelean or a kayle is extremely hard as u don't get enough time plus his extremely fast target access and stickiness ! most of the smurf zeds i face give up their turrets for roams and it's a winning deal for them they can get 3/1/1 in one single roam , his strategy is no shit that can be easily countered in solo Q ! he is a full utility champ with extremely high survivability

  • @alext8060
    @alext8060 Před 4 měsíci

    Zed is 100% a balanced champ, I've been playing him a lot recently actually but I still think hes "objectively" one of the most annoying champions in the game. I think a lot of it is just that he is VERY uninteractive if he wants to be and that unlike other assassins hes scales REALLY well. I think one of the main issues I have is something more fundamental for OTP champs in general, unless youre a GM/Chall player, theyre going to be so many droves better at the lane than you are and a skill match up turns into a really one sided experience, a Zed OTP will always be better at the Ahri lane than an Ahri player is at the Zed lane (this stops applying in really high mmr like gm/chall ofc but thats .005% of players lol). The other big annoyance with Zed is that he doesnt really have an impossible lane because his kit is so flexible, I remember Nemesis saying on stream one time that Zed lanes are entirely based on his numbers and not really about kit interaction - Zed has had moments where he could easily beat traditional counters like Vlad. Most other champs have these "impossible" lanes. You really struggle vs Vex? play syndra, You really struggle vs Syndra? play fizz (this lane is hard losing for syndra until literally challenger and it flips completely and its really syndra favored), struggle vs fizz? play panth and so on and so on. Zed doesnt really have this and it can make it incredibly frustrating to see oh sylas has 53.5% wr into zed D2+ this patch and then you just get fisted because zed has the tools to win. This certainly makes him a High skill, flexible, and interesting champion, but that doesnt stop him from being incredibly annoying - Look at the top lane, the 4 infamous horsewomen of top lane, Fiora, Camille, RIven, Irelia and now also Vayne ig, those 5 are like the hardest top laners in the game, but theyre also some of the most hated top laners in the game.
    My last issue with zed is that his kit is just kinda inherently annoying. His W is basically better flash and that just feels like shit to play vs, in lane he functions as a manaless ad mage he does w q and it outranges fucking velkoz and xerath, his ult gives him untargetability and makes dives incredibly consistent, easy and it gives him another blink, even if you survive the initial combo you might just stand under tower and die to air when the mark expires. His Ult CD is so insanely low + he builds so much AH its feels the exact same as the malig + ult hunter ahri bullshit thats meta rn. He fucking goes first strike a lot and that keystone is disgusting on him bc hes great at proccing it at great range + hes melee so he gets 100% gold and hes so strong with gold that any gold acceleration with free boots and futures is kinda oppressive . Zed also has the ability to go kinda bruisery with Shojin being really strong on him and cleaver can be viable as well and theres nothing worse in this game imo than an assassin walking around with like fucking 3.5k hp one shotting you and his hp bar doesnt move.
    I know that hes balanced and fair whatever, he has significant counterplay etc but I can destroy a Zed in lane and I still come out the other end thinking "That was a terrible fucking experience." I dont think he should be reworked or anything, he is one of the iconic champs in the game and his playerbase is dedicated and wide enough to keep in the game (looking at you old asol and aatrox). However, I still wish there was a way to make him less annoying, IDK what it is and he would prob need compensation buffs, idk top of my head making shit up maybe hurt his w e q trade pattern to do less poke but if he hits 3 shurikens with one cast it will also proc his passive or something. (99% likely a terrible idea im just throwing shit out there someone more knowledgeable about the champ could make better suggestions)
    All of this frustration only acts to hurt Zed players more than his opponents as well though, has to suck to play a champ thats forced to be terrible because if he isnt terrible then oh whats this 70% ban rate and you dont get to play him anyway. He is strong this season though and it seems that without avenous the champ seems to be a lot less hated. (seriously why did they ever allow him to build that item)

  • @bryanlariestan6662
    @bryanlariestan6662 Před 4 měsíci +1

    A video talking about zed without the faker outplay... impossible

  • @brunodeusdara8926
    @brunodeusdara8926 Před 4 měsíci

    we all know that zed is like a villain in-game, but lorewise I feel like he is a misunderstood good character, like Jason Todd or something like that

  • @keiththao7534
    @keiththao7534 Před 3 měsíci

    You gotta land your q's. Thats the beauty of zed. They nerfed him so bad to the point where its not even rewarding enough when you perfectly calculate your abilities. He's not broke. Theres just too many noobs.

  • @sasailicc
    @sasailicc Před 4 měsíci +1

    Zed main here. I think you love zed so you can be real when this kind of question comes out. Zed is frustrating as hell, its not about "you dont know to play against him" its about that his kit is just absurd. Zed with eclipse only, can beat kha zix with 3 items you can witness to that on stylish streams for example. I am not talking about fact that u must hit whole combo, i am talking about fact that that possibility shoould not be alowed to happen. Zed is also the safest assasin in whole game, try to play fizz or talon in mage matchups and you will suffer more. I agrre that he has shit early game, but not big deal cuz he became mage in late game and u cant argue about that, he is just super strong able to 1v1 even tank, split push, wave clear. He fall behind when he is not fed but who doesnt, he anyway need 1 roam to get back in game. So i cant agree that zed is not frustrating, he is much harder to deal with than others, objectivily harder.

    • @sasailicc
      @sasailicc Před 4 měsíci +2

      P.s. i am not talking that he is most broken character in lol, he obviosly isnt. But i just think that people want to make him more weaker than he actualy is. Nice video tho, love your content i wasnt thinking nothing bad, just my opinion :-)

    • @HienNguyen-cs1md
      @HienNguyen-cs1md Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@sasailicc He's definitely not weak but not like OP either. Yone for example has crazy damage even when behind. As an assassin, he has his upsides and downsides when compared to like Talon.

    • @sasailicc
      @sasailicc Před 4 měsíci

      @@HienNguyen-cs1md ye, yone is different story. That shit can miss everything and win trades.

  • @CharlieLive
    @CharlieLive Před 4 měsíci

    Really nice video to watch. Can say that im a brand new Zed player and im already loving him

  • @diegomonterrosomuriel765
    @diegomonterrosomuriel765 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I really like to play Zed, I only play with it and your videos helped me a lot 😁

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci

      Glad to hear that man! Keep going ^^

  • @shade_7500
    @shade_7500 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I hate Zed because he Is so sexy that the community keeps him weak because they cant handle the effort to open shop and spend 500 for an armor

  • @kintendo8285
    @kintendo8285 Před 6 dny

    the reason why i hate zed is not playing vs him in lane, even if he has too much range. the reason is the zed who got many kills, which then is hard to kill, hit, cc, because of him being slippery and having much dmg. the reason why he is kept weak, is because of his snow balling nature. if i ban zed, it's not because i hate the champ, but how frustrating a fed zed is to play vs. in high elo there is good peel and zed won't get easy kills. low elo is just the assassin heaven. that is why tanks can easily carry games with good peel there. and if you ban zed, you don't trust your team for peel

  • @rogysalussolia5435
    @rogysalussolia5435 Před 19 dny

    Bruh.
    I went trough Jayce mid main to be a Zed main. The truth is just that noobs hate Zed. They hate it cuz they are brainless and dont know the fact that "Ehi, dont u fucking dare to challenge me".
    I got friends telling me that im just a dumb asshole for playing Zed, and that this champ is kinda easy like Katarina and others.
    And well, i took it personally.
    Why? Cuz Zed is not easy asf, u need to be extremely precise or u wont do nothing.
    And then, ppl just need to understand that if u have against a good Zed player, u can't challenge him at 6 pretending to have the 100% possibility to kill him.

  • @taorroarcano7626
    @taorroarcano7626 Před 3 měsíci

    That's how the game works, zed and assassins in general counter squishy and immobile chempion. You can play malphite rammus mord ... a lot of those scaling tank counter zed

  • @dumpsterplayer2700
    @dumpsterplayer2700 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm a veigar main, I ban zed every game, I am absolutely useless vs zed as veigar. I cant punish him pre lvl 3/6, I don't even get push against Zed. At level 6, my cage takes 0.5 seconds to form, Zed's ult is 0.6 seconds-0.95 seconds.
    I have 0.1-0.35 seconds to correctly place my cage such that the edge will be where zed will appear behind me. Moving the cursor to the correct position alone from a surprise ult is more than that.
    Even if i manage to correctly place my cage, he can EQ and shadow away before my cage will stun.
    The only thing i can do is WQR behind me and hope its enough, which unless he was 60-70% HP he will not be, because i also cant pressure him while he has ult to hit the spells.
    Zed is not broken, but my champ is absolutely useless against him so i will continue to ban.
    Also something that was brought up, i'm around emerald, i'm not afraid of emerald zeds, i'm afraid of emerald zed smurfs.

  • @gaston.cr0w
    @gaston.cr0w Před 4 měsíci

    In fact, im new play Zed and everyone predict my plays. The champ can be an Assasin with more range than others, but if you don't be fast or has good accuraty... All people will stomp you

  • @busherinolol1693
    @busherinolol1693 Před 4 měsíci

    Personally, I think the problem with Zed is his lethal range. He doesn't rely for positioning of his W to kill a squishy carry which is why people never feel save against him. I feel like alot of the frustration would be gone if his W range was shorter. Maybe remove the snap back delay on his R as a trade off.

  • @sibartan2835
    @sibartan2835 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Tbh I really love Zed for chalenge and the amount of dophamine. On Zed 80% of kills feels like u earned it (atleast against skillcup matchups)

  • @Deathslinger666
    @Deathslinger666 Před 4 měsíci

    Did you just say ahrii is less frustrating to play against? She literally has a toe track hitbox on her Q and E and one million dashes with her R so even if you are going I kill her and in the lane she is still going to escape and not die.

  • @arisufizu5698
    @arisufizu5698 Před 4 měsíci

    I think the ONLY time that I thought Zed was OP or sleeper op was when Ravenous was changed to also proc on abilities because he just shoves the wave and does whatever he wants on the map and there's nothing his enemy can do regardless if he was winning the matchup or not. It's such a brainless strategy. But before and after the ravenous Zed build meta, I thought he was the most skill expressive assassin out there and never had problems facing against him
    Oh it was mentioned in the video, nice

  • @jamesgrillage8086
    @jamesgrillage8086 Před 4 měsíci

    Its so frustrating that low elo people think hes op and permaban him. Im not allowed to have fun because of a false belief

  • @maximillianfakrogha9248
    @maximillianfakrogha9248 Před 4 měsíci

    When I get outplayed by Qiyana. I just type well played. I rather get outplayed than just get one shoot without being able to do anything. Which is why I never banned zed

  • @wenndeldourado8886
    @wenndeldourado8886 Před 4 měsíci +3

    e muito frustante jogar de zed atualmente eu dou meu maximo e n funciona, ai eu desligou meu cérebro e vou jogar top illaoi e ganho sem nem saber oq estou fazendo xD

    • @Tiagocf2
      @Tiagocf2 Před 4 měsíci

      dai tu cai contra um teemo e leva stomp de illaoi

    • @wenndeldourado8886
      @wenndeldourado8886 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Tiagocf2 pior q nunca cai contra acredita?

    • @Tiagocf2
      @Tiagocf2 Před 4 měsíci

      @@wenndeldourado8886 é péssimo kkk ela leva mto counter pra boneco ranged

    • @wenndeldourado8886
      @wenndeldourado8886 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Tiagocf2 cara eu jogo lol a menos de 1 ano e sou prata tu acha q alguém no meu elo vai saber counterar alguma coisa? os cara nivel 300+ tomando amasso pra mim nivel 80 (eu acho)

  • @Ashura_Morgraine
    @Ashura_Morgraine Před 4 měsíci

    You described me, when I play mid I will ban zed no matter what I play, I just dislike going against him so much that I just decided I never want to see him in my lane. I will try to deal with even hard counterpicks against my champ, but not to deal with zed.

  • @milad9482
    @milad9482 Před 3 měsíci

    I personally play veigar mid and when zed uses w off cd and does not get ganked ... Then i just have to ban him

  • @Fancy_Boy
    @Fancy_Boy Před 4 měsíci

    I become a zed player after seen Faker vs Ryu... and the truth is, ppl dont like to have the "ryu experience" lol... but if the "torture" is the problem, why shaco exist... have u ever watch "pinkward" humiliate any toplaner???? thats torture!!! not being able to reach the enemy bc of constant fear of those boxes....

  • @jadoniccryon5898
    @jadoniccryon5898 Před 4 měsíci

    Today I played Sion in ARAM and I went up against a really goood Zed player. It wasn't fun at all , my team got engaged on and the Zed made my entire team vanish by dashing around me and since I'm slow I couldn't do anything . The feeling of helplessness is what makes Zed really annoying .

  • @newmeta1237
    @newmeta1237 Před 12 dny

    I perma ban him because laning against him gives me c. If he wanted to he can spam Q on you with his shadow and outrange most champions in the game, once you're low enough he can towerdive you for free with untargetability on ult

    • @never-nw5hx
      @never-nw5hx Před 4 dny

      So poke him and stay next to minions bcs he have choice between poking you or getting CS, if he doesn't have W push wave and roam or all in him

  • @KingOfMalevolence
    @KingOfMalevolence Před 4 měsíci +3

    It's because he doesn't have a lot of counterplay outside of buying zhonyas or having good peel, with assasins like Talon, you can outspace them because they can't blink 3 times in 1 combo, evade point and click abilities or kill you from 1 screen away. He also has very safe laning phase, unlike other similarly annoying champions like Katarina, since he doesn't have mana and can pretty much kill every minion with Qs from far away, which takes away even more counterplay. There's also this item called voltaic cyclosword that every Zed player builds now that makes it impossible to dodge his abilities if you don't have a dash.

    • @franmybautista5159
      @franmybautista5159 Před 4 měsíci

      Oooor u just dont know about this "space" we use in midlane or this "flash" and Also the fact that the characters can... U know "walk" and "Dodge" skill shots

  • @forcencd6085
    @forcencd6085 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Personally i think the reason is frustrating is because he is flashy. Its the same with champs like yone yasuo irelia and so on. Its different when u get killed by a khazix than froma zed. His whole playstyle surrounds that concept of flashy play.

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci

      I personally hate kha'zix because he can be invisible, that's annoying haha :x

    • @traficantededolly9922
      @traficantededolly9922 Před 4 měsíci

      Yep, if talon try to one shot some one in the middle of the enemy team, he can do it, but he will certainly die, but zed will do the same thing kill someone, and press W or R, and go back to a safe position

    • @forcencd6085
      @forcencd6085 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@traficantededolly9922 i mean yes zed is a safe assasin i agree. But the problem with your comment is that you think zed will kill someone in a team fight. Zed is best when the enemies come one by one. A simple armor item or even zhonyas neutralised his while kit. Same doesnt apply to a talon since he can w q you in a blink of an eye without giving you any chance to retaliate. Zed at least has to hit qs and give you 3-4 seconds of time( which in leage is way too much) to 1 zhonyas 2 your support save u 3 dodge his abilities 4 potition better. Literally no other assasin give you this advantage since almost all of them have invis or a point click one shot ability

  • @amrobahja8539
    @amrobahja8539 Před 4 měsíci

    Really good work bro
    Keep going❤️

  • @Fluffy-lostsheep
    @Fluffy-lostsheep Před 4 měsíci

    They don't like it when I W far way back, flash in the middle of 4 people, ult their adc and proc voltaic, go back to my W shadow, E, then pray my follow-up Qs hit.They hate it so much.

  • @konkara4714
    @konkara4714 Před 4 měsíci

    i have been playing league for 8 years and been a zed main for 5 but thisd season i have finally quit league because zed was the only reason i played league and hes so unplayed rn and it actually makes the game so unfun

  • @alexandarthedivine
    @alexandarthedivine Před 4 měsíci

    As someone who peaked Master last season, I still hate Zed.

  • @yuji8592
    @yuji8592 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Not gonna lie it's very noob oriented the current balance of Zed, and it's unfair that you can climb a lot easier with basically almost every other midlaner, but i think League has a lot more important problems to attend to at this moment...

  • @hex-2748
    @hex-2748 Před 4 měsíci

    Zed mains hated him because they kept him so weak. Mage/bot mains hated him.

  • @jususi71
    @jususi71 Před 4 měsíci

    The only time I hated playing against zed was when the ravenous hydra caster build was a thing, running in to a good zed player who went cdr+hydra build was 1 of the most unfun things to face in the entire game, atleast every other iteration of zed HAS to snowball and go in to kill someone because u cant just stand 800 units away and perma poke.
    Hydra zed was basically a mobile somewhat tanky ad xerath(with fizz e) with sustain, plus actual kill pressure, thank god that is gone

  • @hellohooman8962
    @hellohooman8962 Před 4 měsíci

    I'm probably blinded by the ouplay by Faker 8 years back then, but I didn't even know people were hating on Zed.

  • @yeeto2666
    @yeeto2666 Před 4 měsíci +1

    i will never stop playing zed even he is the weakest mid lane champ in the game

  • @chaseyup3
    @chaseyup3 Před 4 měsíci

    I think one of the biggest reasons zed is very unfun to play against is that it feels like the game is really in his hand, and if he plays well he wins and if he makes mistakes you sometimes get to punish. Just getting slowly poked down with weq feels like it matters more how the zed plays instead of how you play against him

  • @lucasferreira2073
    @lucasferreira2073 Před 3 měsíci

    "His kit is annoying"
    Me as a Vlad main:

  • @Zaibatsu___
    @Zaibatsu___ Před 4 měsíci

    *Zed just fulfills his role of murder
    Players: Omg Zed is so broken 😮

  • @Alduin57
    @Alduin57 Před 4 měsíci

    I mean you sorta missed what most people have been saying which was he can farm way too safely and he can dash too often.

  • @deceased._
    @deceased._ Před 4 měsíci +1

    People think Zed takes 0 skill but then theres champs with truedamage on a single point and click skill.

    • @mostlydangerous3717
      @mostlydangerous3717 Před 4 měsíci

      Ahem garen. I get more mad whenever he presses the funny button than any skill expressive champ has

    • @deceased._
      @deceased._ Před 4 měsíci

      @@mostlydangerous3717 lmfaoo, camille aswell

  • @BL9_11
    @BL9_11 Před 4 měsíci +1

    "Teemo"
    I'll leave this here.

  • @ademboss5001
    @ademboss5001 Před 4 měsíci +1

    hey what is the best champ to ban while playing zed?

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Just ban the champion that you struggle against the most in mid lane, even if other people say that Zed is good against him.

    • @shade_7500
      @shade_7500 Před 4 měsíci +2

      If you re below master ban diana , fizz or irelia

    • @kommuist_slayer
      @kommuist_slayer Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@shade_7500 and LeBlan

    • @twilight5726
      @twilight5726 Před 4 měsíci +1

      i always ban xerath because he outranges you so much and he outscales you too so i'll ban him

  • @Arctic_1605
    @Arctic_1605 Před 4 měsíci

    i feel like the zed perma ban has died a lot by now, instead ppl perma ban smolder (which is like 45% winrate atm)

  • @ryuzakiistream
    @ryuzakiistream Před 3 měsíci

    As a high elo morde otp nothing's worse than perma teleportation so I can't throw a single Q

  • @DK-bj9hx
    @DK-bj9hx Před 4 měsíci +2

    If zed is the most frustrating imagine fizz with zonyas😂 at leasts zeds dont build zonyas to cycle their w

  • @Ausku_24
    @Ausku_24 Před 4 měsíci

    Zed is so hated because low elo players cant deal with him and will always make him 20/1. Dont get me wrong he gets feed in higher elo too but there we at least know why.

  • @svSGRDGRG1234
    @svSGRDGRG1234 Před 4 měsíci

    3:54 ZED 8/2 vs lethality Sion 1/6 and Tyler1 think it isn't normal that he dies ?😂😂😂

  • @wildscooter1
    @wildscooter1 Před 3 měsíci

    Teemo lit getting a satan skin bcz the community asked for it for YEARS, this guy: "Zed is the most hated"

  • @RoamingShadows
    @RoamingShadows Před 4 měsíci

    You know what the big deal about league is? Thanks to Riot's competitive system nowadays players just focus on the Meta, and what is strong or weak. Over the years people forget why they play the game, and why they love the champs they are used to spamming. I've been playing Zed for over 15 years I think, and to "Us" after reaching our half of 10 million Mastery points, this game is 99% trash. If not for this false Shredder excuse we would have uninstalled the game waaaay back. All we care about right now is trying to have fun, and record some dezednt content and memories in the process. Win? Lose? No matter how good you are, sometimes you can go 20 and 0 and still lose because your team is dead pudding. This game is all about Tanks, and wusses who Zhonyas all day, or monkeys (Like Fiddz would call them) that perma-gank your lane. If the enemy Jungler does not booZt them, then you'll have to deal with both Top and support on Mid as well? If you've played enough Zed, and not particularly League then you would get our perspective. After becoming a OTP on the champ, we started seeing the game with another air and eyes. Once you master the forbidden technique, you find that all that dust in front of you will never reach grandeur. Arrogance or reality? Can that Akali even lane against you without getting half her team in lane to annoy you? Can that Malphite even play without the help of it's Jungler? Can any of that Zhit you step on even win a private 1V1? "Do you think, you over all them dead bodies. Will. Best. The. Shadows? Ironic enough Zed was and will forever be the only true Assassin in the game. The only one who can best you, 1V9 all your excuses, and the only one that will make you piZZ yourzedlf. He even quotes what Riot has been doing all these years, a curse of a creation "Balance is weakness". To even think that Zed travels the cosmos looking for this so-called balance. He will never find it, becauzed there is always an obstacle that changes everything. And so we call those Nerfs and Buffs. People saying Zed is weak, when this BS company just focuses on creating Garen copies and making them strong at all times. Even Mages are Tanks now. Most comps are impossible in late game due to just using Electro, preety much FirZt Ztrike wins any confrontation. If you think Zed is weak, then don't touch him. In that case your mentality is weak. Zed will f*ck those tanktards until they end up crying behind their Junglers. There's nothing Zed can't kill if you know how to use him. Respect the shadows, learn from the shadows, and be one with the shadows. Then make them respect you, and show them who's the true Master around these parts. Don't treat Zed like he was a part of the usual character roster, but learn to feel him. He makes a difference between everything. We're not gonna go into much detail, sinzed this is getting long. Let's finish off by saying that you should all learn to be a true Assassin, instead of trying to find an understanding of the game beyond what it really is. League is so basic, in the end it's all about preventing your team from selling out the game. Onzed you learn to have balls, and know your enemy is nothing to you, you will have more fun. it's the Runes and Builds that win most teamfights, not every game has decent enemies that actually show an IQ, just CC, damage, and Tank stupidity against the walls. While that Jax basically pulverizes your HP with just an E, Zed has to waste a mental combo. This Zhit applies to 99% of Riot's champs, it's preety stupid how just one ability can actually do what a WEQ Zed combo does in true damage. Pure positioning makes the Master. Weak? Take a moment and think about it. Is Zed weak, or are all those Guardian Angels in front of you not the true weaklings? Do you even know half of the combos, lore, and builds? Do you even respect the cause? Last time we checked, we laned against a 800K LeBlanc and the guy did not even know her full name. Where is the dedication and passion there? True Zeds need no reminders, of what has to be done or what should be denied. In the end, we are all part of the same cycle. Great video FiddZ my man, and sorry for all the text. Keep up the unexpected content variety, Zick as always. Stay shady!

  • @anamariaaguilera5796
    @anamariaaguilera5796 Před 2 měsíci

    My main ♥️ I wouldn’t trade Zed for any other champion.

  • @mitsu1132
    @mitsu1132 Před 4 měsíci +1

    F the haters, im still playing my favorite champ

  • @0leo088
    @0leo088 Před 4 měsíci

    ok so here's my take, I hate Zed for the same reason I hate Yasuo and Yone, its because they are champions for edgy people, I mean... if I lose to some nerd edgelord I am going to mald, even if its because I played badly.

  • @M4Tr1xg0at
    @M4Tr1xg0at Před 4 měsíci

    Nice video, even better explanation, keep it up :D

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed watching :)

  • @raidcr7404
    @raidcr7404 Před 4 měsíci

    I mean tyler1 played lethality sion and was 1/6 against a fed zed with old claw. Back then Zed did more damage than after durability patch. In my opinion this is how Zed should be. Hes literally the best champ to style on people and thats way better than just oneshotting people like Talon. Its like saying karthus ult should be instant too.

  • @user-hw1gh4te4p
    @user-hw1gh4te4p Před 4 měsíci

    listen..their main profit comes from lower elo teenagers. in order to make money they NEED to appease to these kids, if these 12 year old kids gets shit on in lane, they will uninstall and never play the game again. The ONLY way to get these kids to ask their mommy for 5 dollars to buy skins is to allow them to get fed without them having to THINK ( hence why the tank meta ). Zed is simply a low elo bully that they have to nerf.

  • @filipirimiesINFJ
    @filipirimiesINFJ Před 4 měsíci

    I will always love this champ no matter what. And I am thankful I have a passionate youtuber to follow up in this journey.
    Zed or Bed 4 ever

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you for being here always Filip :)

  • @aciuschristophores7789
    @aciuschristophores7789 Před 3 měsíci

    And Yasuo remains untouched. This disgusting shit is why I quit League and started focusing on my real life career.

  • @AnAverageBoss
    @AnAverageBoss Před měsícem

    People who ban Zed are terrible at the game, playing against him is a free win most of the time

  • @austinmyers1568
    @austinmyers1568 Před 4 měsíci

    Do you still do coaching sessions?

  • @4Atomsk
    @4Atomsk Před 3 měsíci

    Someone needs to make a guide on how to play against zed

  • @williamlindroos2250
    @williamlindroos2250 Před 3 měsíci

    You compare a clip of a good fed zed vs when t1 first tries him in lv 4 phase. thats cherry picking just to get your point acrossXD

  • @ideiasmarginais9534
    @ideiasmarginais9534 Před 4 měsíci +1

    One thing that really makes stressful playing against zed is brcause he has the worst mix of archetypes to play against, he is an assassin that plays like a control mage( he is designed to be an assassin and has burst of one, but he is safe and has some good range with WE as a mage) and another thing is that i think if you have a good amount of mastery with zed is more difficult to outplay him than the opposite, like, sometimes i played against orianna as zed and i would R, flash their ultimate and WEQ, this could be seen as an "outplay" by me but it really isn't, is just that i know that orianna will use their ultimate when i ult, so i just flash away to not be hit, but in orianna's perspective is probably much harder to outplay in this type of situation
    I am not a zed otp,my mains are azir, swain and zed and that's what i think one of the reasons i think he is hated

  • @s.slayer0124
    @s.slayer0124 Před 4 měsíci

    I feel like trash players (mostly you adcs) find zed broken when there is kata who refreshs her abilities to one shot the rest meanwhile zed is barely doing shit after he gets 2 people in difficult teams, kata can dash away, akali can also get in get 2-4 people and come out alive if good. I don't care if zed is weak i just wanna playyyy ban kata or rengar if you hate assassins xddd
    Also 9:55 was hilarious xd

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +1

      yes tyler1 laugh is just too good haha

  • @shockk_lol
    @shockk_lol Před 4 měsíci

    Great video man, i kinda understand why people hate zed but at the same time they are just mad because they do too many mistakes that they can't see and they think "the enemy champ is broken you know. Last season was like a bad exemple because zed have 0 cd and you can do whatever you want but he is just a good assassin who is good at exploring enemy mistakes, thats all he does, he waits for your mistakes and he punishes you.
    In nemesis clip its like "zed broken" but "syndra isn't" when they did the same but at diferent times on the game, she killed him with only 1 skill in 1 second and he killed her in 6 seconds with all is kit plus flash. I know she is a scale champing and blablabla, but thats it, she needs to scale she have low hp early game and Zed had already 1 item+brutalizer he will do damage, he is an assassin he needs to damage in a 1v1 thats what make sense no? talon/fizz/renekon/ahri/garen/riven/orianna/lux all of them would one shot syndra there probably faster, thats it. Like he have one of the worst early lvl's in the game and syndra can poke him to death with Q's in the first levels, and thats kinda boring, it's never the best syndra againts the best zed when people talk about champins, they talk when its a good zed againts a syndra probably first timing or something like that, the player skill is really important and thats why zed was so bs last season, hydra/bc/seryndas have made OTP = First timers with zed, almost that because you have no CD, and thats why champions like akali, akshan, ori are so good againts Zed, they are really good making presure early game when zed can't punish you. When you are playing Zed its like playing againts Fiora, or even blitzcrank, you need to think what you are doing so you will be punished, they make league a fighting game almost.
    Like blitz, blitz doenst need to be op to be permabanned because if you land a hook you are a god, so you need to dodge that hook so you can't play autopiolet, thats what they do, they dont need to be op, the enemy need to play correctly, and thats why zed and blitz are not on proplayer, in the paper they have alot of weaknesses and are really hard to do the basic stuff compared to other champs. If the enemy player is good your options are so low that you almost cant play the game, people need to understand that and zed will be banned like 5% of the time max not 20% like he is.
    People just dont want to learn how to play againts and will cry about "the top pick is to op, but im wasting my ban on zed".
    Like me i can't play againts fizz so im banning him, but i know thats better champions to ban, but im not crying about that, thats my bad not fizz is ultra broken

    • @shockk_lol
      @shockk_lol Před 4 měsíci

      Sorry i wrote a bible there KEK

    • @shockk_lol
      @shockk_lol Před 4 měsíci

      And btw im not saying that Zed is op or something like that, he is just not that good in the meta. I'm saying all the time "last season zed was probably the best champ in the game"

    • @Tiagocf2
      @Tiagocf2 Před 4 měsíci

      tbh Syndra didn't even no shotted him, if you pay attention to the death recap you'll see the amount of AD/True damage he took

  • @karmel5835
    @karmel5835 Před 4 měsíci

    for me frustrating are champions with million cc, they can be miles behind and stunn to eternity the carry and win the game (
    lissandra)

  • @xeih6940
    @xeih6940 Před 4 měsíci

    ok tbh if u lose against zed, u just need to get better dude, its a skill issue, u just abuse him early its not that hard, (btw i am talking about only mid lane since i know i will get alot of adcs raging about that)

  • @tiagolopes4687
    @tiagolopes4687 Před 4 měsíci

    I played a lot of diff classes mid and what i can say in my experience when i was mainly an assassin player i didnt particular enjoy playing aganist or either hated, was like some average in terms of anoying. The times i was playing mages was the time i found him most anoying id particulary know why.. now that i play mostly bruiser champs is fine playing vs zed

  • @megalordsk8042
    @megalordsk8042 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nemesis is from Slovenia..... *showing Slovakia flag ..... Nice geography Riot

  • @sevaneken3461
    @sevaneken3461 Před 4 měsíci

    I don't hâte zed because i'm an assassin main too. I instead hâte shen he would just guess who i'm trying to kill and teleport he's kind of annoying when well played

  • @alejandrojimenez1685
    @alejandrojimenez1685 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Yeah, I've been trying to learn Zed for the last couple of weaks, and my impression is that he is nerfed as fuck. He is super squishy with really bad stats next to other assasins, he has a weak laning phase, his skills are pretty bad with low dmg and and long CDs at the first levels, and it takes a lot of knowledge about the game to make him work... No wonder why nobody plays him anymore xD

    • @Fiddlezahar
      @Fiddlezahar  Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yeah but can you imagine that so many people think that Zed is still broken and ban him every game? 🙃

    • @alejandrojimenez1685
      @alejandrojimenez1685 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Fiddlezahar yup, I have heard it before. I myself have banned him with certain champs that are really weak in early game like Azir because I have had bad experiences against Zed before.
      I think the problem is, that Zed has so much roon for skill expression yet nobody plays him, that when you find one, he is usually an OTP that oblitarates you so hard, it feels unfair, and hence people start to hate him.

  • @parsarafieimanesh5233
    @parsarafieimanesh5233 Před 4 měsíci

    what do you think about zed jungle ?

    • @aspeedtellybridger9707
      @aspeedtellybridger9707 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good pick. I use it sometimes and its really good for clear after lvl 3. Passive is op too especially for drakes etc.

  • @Was_los_Bruda
    @Was_los_Bruda Před 4 měsíci

    Only reason cuh be hating on Zed is cu of the delayed triple shadow shuriken explosion wich is deadly to Wood mentality and new people and is probably the worst way to get styled on in League, plus whole team eyes on Midlane and its a toxic af role overall anyways 🤣.

  • @walidelmrabet7174
    @walidelmrabet7174 Před 4 měsíci +1

    WE ... ARE... ZED.

  • @franmybautista5159
    @franmybautista5159 Před 4 měsíci +1

    3:41 1/6, 118 farm sion complaining about zed huh, nice.

  • @nothingwhatsoevertwotone
    @nothingwhatsoevertwotone Před 4 měsíci

    Im being tortured in morde ult no way to get out. Thats so bs to say that for zed 3:20

  • @try_hard586
    @try_hard586 Před 4 měsíci +1

    We dont play league we play zed

  • @InfamousZed
    @InfamousZed Před 4 měsíci

    I’ve always wondered why I never get to play zed and this video def helped

  • @sahsax3
    @sahsax3 Před 4 měsíci

    When I was a newbee I was frustrated after a few games vs zed, so I just started to main him.