Dry Sump Oil System Teardown and Description
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The Papadakis Racing team began drifting in 2004 and is the most winning team in Formula Drift history, earning the 2015 title with driver Fredric Aasbo, as well as backto back championship titles with driver Tanner Foust in 2007 and 2008. The Rockstar Energy Drink / Nexen Tire Toyota Corolla Hatchback is the latest competition build from the Hawthorne, California, based team.
Team owner Stephan Papadakis is a legend of sport compact racing who began building his reputation in the 1990s with the first front-wheel drive, tube-chassis drag car in the U.S. The team earned multiple records and championships in the discipline, turning in elapsed times and trap speeds previously thought unattainable in front-drive drag cars. Papadakis' successes in front-wheel drive were matched by his efforts in rear-wheel drive when he campaigned a Honda Civic that became just the fifth car to join the NHRA's Sport Compact 200 MPH club. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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They cost a lot, but when you look at all the pros to them, you understand why they’re the best route for performance oiling on a race car.
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I'm so glad I went drysump on my LS Miata. Amazing oil pressure at all times, doesn't drop off hard with oil temp, much better oil temps, no worries of starving it in drift.
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Could a dry sump oil system, solve the issue of oil dilution? Which seems to be a problem for vehicle with direct injection.
i would imagine most of the benefits towards oil dilution by fuel from a dry sump would be:
1. higher volume of oil, so ratio of oil to solvent would be lower over same amount of runtime
2. oil tank may be vented, and air oil seperator may additionally give time for oil to lose residual solvents. both must be run for a while, and i believe fuel dilution arises after consecutive cold starts, as cold Combustion Chambers allow for fuel to condense and hitch a ride with the oil.
perhaps for direct injection applications, a warm-up oil heater could be integrated to reduce fuel accumulation in resevoir, which only runs within a low temp window to prevent unnecessary heat soak
see the toyota prius exhaust heat reclaimation system, plumbing coolant through a thermostat-based jacket around exhaust manifold, letting engine warm up in less time
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That was cool. Didn’t know a dry sump doubled as a vacuum pump for the crankcase. Definitely helps for running a thinner piston ring and reducing ring friction.
Internal air cooling 🙂
Thinner piston ring? Reducing ring friction? What the hell are you talking about, mate? If you look up the formula for dynamic and static friction you'll see it doesn't depend on the surface area. Just use the piston rings that are made to comply with the manufacturers specifications, and that's it. Snakeoil doesn't lubricate as well...
What's actually the case is that the crankcase gets filled with blowby gasses; on a streetcar you want to pull those gasses out because they contain a mist with a little bit of unburned fuel that mixes with and dilutes your oil, and that pulling out is done by the vacuum in the intake manifold; on a racecar where oil gets changed so often that you would never notice that tiny fraction of fuel in there you just want to get the excess pressure in the crankcase out of there. So pulling a vacuum to counteract the blowby pressure is definately a logic thing to do, but i'm not so sure about going beyond that and pulling a vacuum, that introduces new problems.
p.s. Ok, there are piston rings on the market that have a round over or a sharper edge that contacts the cylinder wall, but that thin edge isn't there for reducing friction, it's there to wear out faster, so that you have a faster first stage break in of your engine. Tin coated piston rings have the same effect, that tin is there for the exact same reason. And Piston rings with any kind of coating on the outer edge are there for the same reason. Due to a multi-stage break-in you will have an engine that performs better because the break-in happened at better conditions. That's what the engineers say, meanwhile the marketeers tell fairytales about reduced friction.
@@sasjadevries While you are generally right about friction not dependant on surface, you forgot that the force with which rings pushes against the walls depends on surface area of the rings since it's combustion gas that pushes the ring against the cylinder wall.
If y'all could keep this discussion going it would be awesome so many principles involved in efficient combustion.
A dry sump also permits a larger oil capacity without making a bigger oil pan. The engine can be mounted lower, lowering the center of gravity. The oil tank can be mounted any where on the car for weight distribution.
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Great video. Many super cars now come with dry-sump from the factory. This includes the 2nd gen NSX, R8, Huracán, and pretty much all Ferraris from the last 30 years. In these vehicles the scavenging passages are cast into the sump and the external oil pump bolts right to the side of the sump. This eliminates all of the scavenge hoses.
theres a difference between a 120 dollar stock set sump oil pan with modifications and a 3000 dollar stock dry sump with integrated pump pan. apples and oranges man
Geat video. I've always wanted to see how a dry sump system works.
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Thank you I yesterday was looking up things needed to do a dry sump to an old small block Chevy. You answered more questions then I had. Your videos are helping me build my first drag car. Thank you Stephen.
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i didn't even know that kind of oil pump existed 6 miutes ago, and now i completely understand how important they are in racing. that's what i call a well made video
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Awesome video , thanks for sharing this.
Awesome breakdown of dry sump and oil pump..
Love the way you explain what you're doing . I don't do imports but enjoy the lessons thanks.
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Extremely helpful video man. Im needing things like this. In my build
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Cool video! I'm kinda fascinated with dry sumps, even though I really don't have an application that needs one. Something I've noticed is that cars like the Z06 corvette (both LS6 and LS7) use a integrated oil pump in the stock location for their dry sumps. It would appear that they only use a single scavenge stage. This got me thinking, for something like a budget drag car with oiling issues, or a 24 hours of lemons car, could you fabricate a feed line to the stock oil pump, and run a cheap electric scavenge pump for a simple, low cost dry sump. Leave the stock oil pan in place, just allow for small amounts of oil to pool in the bottom. You could increase oil capacity and reduce oil starvation for minimal cost, but of course likely without the benefit of drawing a vacuum, or increasing ground clearance. Neither of which is a massive concern for either application.
zo6 had oil issues from the factory
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Great explanation Steph, makes me want to build my own system
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I seriously need to spend a weekend or maybe 10 in this garage. So much things I want to ask and learn. Thanks for the videos Stephan.
This is really cool, now i understand how a dry sump works, thanks :)
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Nice video, thanks for explanation.
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I finally get why most pumps are 3+ stages. Thank you for the great video.
Very nice engineering in them parts, love it.
Love this, never seen the inside of a dry sump pump before and wondered if the scavenge and pressure sections were different.
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Awesome content as usual! I definitely want to see more like this. PS: I have to disagree with some of the other comments. While it is great that you can convey such a huge amount of technical information with clarity in a short amount of time, I would like it if videos like these were somewhat longer and slower paced
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A full race car oil system break down would be cool, if this is a vacuumed system then do you even need to have a catch can set up for blow by?
Also thank you for the videos and the information! Super insightful!
apparently the oil tank can serve as an air oil seperator if built correctly, and the scavenge pump will pump crankcase vapors, oil mist, etc along with the air it takes out( the lack of air is what can be considered the level of vacuum) which is then fed through a baffled input to the tank. i believe dry sump takes the catch can idea and does it properly...
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Wow thats so cool! I know the difference between dry sump and wet sump now.
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Waaaa its like a supercharger for lubeoil similarly its increases the hrspwr!
The main reason why dry sump systems are better is the fact that you have constant oil pressure on all the galleries, tubes and passages which is important for adequate lubrication without causing oil starvation, which is possible on a wet sump. Since the oil is stored in a separate container than the engine itself, you can have more a better cooling effect in the process. The drawback is there is a difficulty of fully draining the oil, unlike a wet sump system where all the oil is at the oil pan.
I'm Definitely switching to Dry oil sump for every single one of my cars 🤘
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Great video as always. Would it be possible for you to discuss aeration of the oil and how you remove the air?
I think the vacuum in the crank case would help with that, like how mold makers use a vacuum chamber for their silicon
@@gigamac2486 i suspect you are correct, however after the oil passes through the pump it will again be aerated, but that happens on a normal pump as well.
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Since this is a relatively low pressure oiling system (easily sealed with an o-ring connection) why not just extend the aluminum housing to accept the pump inlets and omit the four hoses. The inlets would have a metal tube each with dual o-rings and mount to the housing and the block. The pump would be closer to the sump and the intel prime would be a shorter distance.
Have you ever designed a dry sump which has an electric motor drive (this is very popular for off highway)? For road car applications which require redundancy, the pumps are spit into two sides or two scavenging pumps and the two are joined with check valves such that if you loose one brushless dc motor the other will make sure the engine is not starved of oil. The pumps can be smaller, more efficient and with tighter tolerances because they run at a single speed.
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Hopefully I’ll be able to build a successful dry sump system for my custom engine project 😭😭 W video 🙌🙌
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