Chinese Politics & Authoritarian Regimes | Professor Rory Truex | Talks at Google
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- Rory Truex is a professor at Princeton University focusing on Chinese politics and authoritarian regimes. At this Talks at Google series, Professor Truex argues why the year of 2017/2018 may one day be considered a “critical year” for modern China, the year President Xi Jinping signaled a “New Era” of his own making. He also highlights three troubling trends to watch moving forward. For more from Rory Truex, please subscribe to his CZcams channel / @rorytruex or follow on Twitter (@rorytruex):
term limit also constraints government long term thinking, here in the USA the country goes through political turmoil every 2-4years which effectively forces politicians to focus only on short term goal: votes
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To understand and appreciate the political system of China, you need to learn more about the ancient history of China. What westerners see about China is very superficial.
You need to understand totalitarianism historically? The DRC wants to control the world; they have the funds and they have the technology and they have the population - but - the DRC is intensely disliked almost everywhere politically; Mao still exists in China since they venerate the dead. Only Stalin matches the total contempt for life that the Chinese nations have had for thousands of years. I am English and the colonialist British Empire was nasty too.
I just wonder how the speaker can compare the democracy of the West and East authoritarian ideology. China is doing great, can you say that about the West. Corruption is everywhere, including the West. Please don't promote your garbage to China. Fix your own garbage at home, but you can't. AI in UK is call security and AI is call invasion of privacy for China.
@@brianscates5225this is exactly what we mean. You have no understanding of china. Slapping the word "authoritarian" into your comment doesnt automatically make your points valid.
i love how he always makes assumptions saying "it is believed", "it can be argued", "it has been said" multiple times without source (probably a very american source like the wall street journal or the economist) and than gives the opinion that he agrees, or "there`s some truth to that". obviously he studies hard and but I believe that he clearly has a western bias (definitely an american one) and that makes me question a lot of what he is saying, no disrespect
the appalled way he discussed the Chinese surveillance system at a GOOGLE talk cracks me up. jullian assange is rotting in prison and edward snowden is exiled in russia for saying the same about the us surveillance sistem
Yes he is very American biased. Much of this facial recognition software is for practical purposes. In Chinese culture people don't care about their data being analysed by the government. If it will help them and give them development, then the Chinese don't really care what the government's own (potentially nefarious) purposes are. The fact is that China is too big and too poor for American and European-style democracy.
Look at India, which is a thoroughly democratic nation (at least in theory). They have elections in every part of the country. Even those without roads or electricity get to vote. The poorest have the biggest voter turnout. Although governments try to dictate, an actual dictatorship is impossible. And what is the result?
The country is a cesspool. Very few have access to genuine education, healthcare, or any public services beyond basic benefits (like food and transport subsidies). The government invests in virtually nothing. Corruption is kleptocratic rather than meritocratic. Think Russia, not China. It is a disaster.
But Indians have a free press. Probably the freest press in the world, on par with the US. Political analysts discuss everything under the sun 24/7. It is way more open than anything you will see on the BBC.
But it changes nothing. The country remains a cesspool of corruption and filth and death. People just die from easily preventable diseases like diabetes and stroke because they couldn't pay enough for the doctor to care about their life. Doctors are thieves. They will illegally cheat you for every penny they can get. If you can pay, you will get good healthcare, better than the NHS for instance, but if you can't, then you can go die.
There is zero collectivism. Everyone does whatever they like, no-one follows the law, and no-one cares whether others die, as long as it's not their own relatives.
So would I have Indian democracy or Chinese authoritarianism? I pick Chinese every time, no quibbles. I don't want Covid patients to suffocate because hospitals couldn't afford oxygen cylinders and the government are too bureaucratic to order it in time. If I have to give up some freedoms for that, so be it.
Obviously Rory is quite knowledgeable about the Chinese political system and some of the observations (for someone that is a bit ambivalent / critical about the Party) are correct. However there're a few things to note as well:
1) the change within the Chinese political system cannot be viewed on a standalone basis. You need to think about what's going on globally (especially in the US and US's stance towards US/China relationship). My gut feeling is that the Party is of the view that it needs to consolidate to brace for a more bumpy road ahead.
2) when you assume a government is malevolent it is easy to describe the decisions made as malevolent as well. Take the surveillance system for example, many of the western countries also have massive surveillance system (yes I'm talking about London/UK) but people seems to be less concerned about it. It is worth noting that growing up in different narratives / personal experience people can have different views about the importance of various values (safety, prosperity, freedom of speech etc). So people in China may very well choose a political system that's different from the western model (but more based on the values of the Chinese people).
The Chinese people have no choice so its crazy for you to say that. Western people constantly speak out against our surveillance state and are very critical of our shit governments.
Shielding CCP from criticism is the total opposite direction to reducin corruption and waste. You can still be an authoritarian dictatorship of socialism with Chinese characteristic and have a free press and allow people to express themselves.
@@abrahamlincoln1889 Oh, yes. The Chinese people have choices. They've driven the KMT government to Taiwan.
@@abrahamlincoln1889 "Free Press"??????
Don't be superstitious. There is no free press. Check "China Uncensored". That video created and propagated lies and untruth about China.
I KNOW it lies because one Australian Lecturer, Kevin Carrico from Monash University, told the audience that on October 1, 2019, he saw a rioter picked up a tear gas canister in front of the Hong Kong Legislature and threw it into the People's Liberation Army barrack right NEXT DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who has ever stepped onto Hong Kong would know that the PLA barrack is miles away, either on the waterfront or in Shekgong, New Territories.
@@1WhiteAkita Chinese people drove KMT out 70 years ago. Its irrelevant to what im talking about. Did the modern Chinese choose corrupt dictatorship as their preferred system? Or is it forced on them through propaganda, fear and control?
There are new generations of intelligent, patriotic Chinese who have good ideas to make China powerful and to help Chinese people. Right now they cannot speak.
If you want to pretend that people in China can speak their true thoughts publicly then youre just making a fool of yourself. If youre going to pretend independent newspapers or broadcasts exist in China youre completely incorrect.
"China uncensored" is trash anti chinese propaganda. This is a negative side effect of free press that fools can also speak. But its better to let fools speak and be able to also hear the wise than to silence both out of fear of critcism and losing face.
@@1WhiteAkita you didnt even reply to the content i wrote. You just mentioned a bunch of other things. Learn critical thinking instead of being a mindless robot
Feel sad if this is a typical interpretation of how China works from people in the US. As someone who grew up in China and lived in several overseas countries, I must say there are loads of benefits that the current system brings, that seems to be purposefully ignored by the Prof. The system is continuously improving as well.
Zhang Yu Normal Americans are like normal Chinese: they largely have no reason to know much about the outside world since they're country is so vast, safe, filled with resources, & isolated. USA by oceans & deserts, China by deserts & mountains.
@@infinitelink very true observations. people who should lead and inform the world should be internationalists who are deeply curious and open to the "strange" and respect each culture and tradition.
It's easy to concentrate on other countries' negative aspects, especially a country like China. In many ways, China is still a developing country although it has already developed into a powerful nation as it is right now. Although authoritarian, China's leadership group is composed of of much more capable people who care more about the future of the nation than most average group of leaders in western democratic countries. We will see that clearer and better as time goes.
@@ArtiziDesigns i wish you knew what you are talking about.
now u look
China isn't a develop country. It's under develop country. 900 millions Chinese live inder 1.5 $ a day compare that Taiwan
I find kind of sad that an accomplished professor would resort to political motivated rumour mongering in regards to Xinjiang. UN rights team headed by the US have consistently rejected Chinese invitations to visit the province citing not to legitimate Chinese actions (in case they don't find evidence of the accusations), UN counter-terrorism director and the World Bank which is essentially an American institution have both investigated Xinjing with boots on the ground and both have officially rubbished the claims of mass detention camps.
Lol
China's Mass detention camps are real satellite images a proven it as well Muslim families. The camps are mostly are made up of Muslims that moved to China. It's sad to see.
As a Chinese citizen, I think Professor Rory's speech is very convincing and agreeable.
Jiafeng Wang 你就是个傻逼，这个教授只是做了个客观的介绍，又没有提出自己的立场，对政治比较了解的中国人都知道他讲的比较客观了，如果你认为有失实的地方，你讲出来呀，傻逼
Agreed.
看了一半，不仅没有水平，还只是个傻逼教授
@@user-nd5kn8vc5i 那你爹是内个因为贪污腐败不得民心被打的屁滚尿流带着全国的积蓄躲到岛上的国党？
And I also appreciate his effort to minimize corruption. I think he is a gift for Chinese people.
MINIMIZE corruption? ORGANIZE it, you mean.
-----A TRUE gift for Chinese people would be FREEDOM. THAT ain't gonna happen, is it?
@@angelsaltamontes7336 Yes, we are begging for freedom so hard. Keep that in mind in your entire life. Never change it. Thanks a lot. looool
China is doing just fine without the "helps" from Westerners. In fact, the Westerners should prepared themselves for what they had asked for so many years ago.
LETS FOOL PEOPLE! CHINA IS A FACSIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME ! ALL DOCTORS DETECTING COVID ! DISAPPEARED KILLED ELIMINATED AND YOU SHOW THIS RIDICOLOUS CONTAINERS !
This is interesting. I appreciate that this professor hesitated to draw conclusions but simply raised some concerns. I guess the young generation in China actually like Xi a lot because they were brought up during this rapid growth era. They (including myself) never experienced the cultural revolution period and they don't see problems with authorities as long as they live a good life. But my experience with the elder generation tells me that the nightmares of the cultural revolution still haunt them. The Tiananmen Square event affected their family and friends, etc. Therefore they are aware of the danger of absolute power and so on. These are, indeed, something we keep to ourselves within the family and close friends. So it is difficult to really know.
So Xi is definitely not respected as it appears to be in the media. I don't know if Xi himself is aware of this. Having said that, Chinese people do see those issues as domestic problems, like, what happens at home and we can manage. We don't really appreciate westerners telling us how things should have been done. Trump is definitely one evidence of how democracy becomes dysfunctional. We laughed at the Brexit and you cannot really blame us for that.
I am also surprised that an important part of Xi's thought is missing from this conversation: building "a Community of Shared Future for Mankind". You really need to understand the Chinese culture to understand this idea that deeply rooted in our traditional values. We will have to wait and see how it unfolds, but the way westerners see it, the "seeking influence" mindset is not helpful in this situation.
5000 years of history and legacy is just too much for a simple-brained disrespectful white 'scholar' to handle.
To quot Professor Kishore Mahbubani of Singapore, “Imagine a 200 year old baby(American) teaching a 2,500 year old sage(China) how to run his life."
To quot my brother, "When Zhang Heng invented the earthquake detector way back in the early First Century, these white scholars are still drinking blood and eating raw meat.(茹毛飲血）"
Regrettably, the 200 year old baby believed that he is god-sent and he had the authority to call shots of everything happening under the sun.
@@jerryzhang3797 Lmao weren't those legacies destroyed in Chinese Cultural revolution?? If you want to see Chinese history and culture the world needs to go to Taiwan. And Taiwan is democratic you moron!! Now why the fuck are you on youtube go watch Chinese youtube ripoff you dope
Leslie I appreciate your answer, and your observations. I sometimes am moved, when i look into the eyes of elders, to wonder as well as worry about the things they've seen and done as well as suffered. Yes I will pay attention to
" community of shared ...." thankyou m
Thank you for your balanced and informative comment.
Professor Rory Truex views Chinese politics from a Western point of view which is understandable. That color the understanding of 4000 years of Chinese civilization. The Chinese people want the government to create the infrastructure that works for them as a collective; otherwise, there is no need to have a big government. Surveillance is always part of Chinese lives. Privacy is not a thing in China as in the US. Confucius mandated Chinese people to be good, and all members of society had a role. Under that assumption, there is no or little privacy concern. For thousands of years, the Chinese ruling class has had to have the "Mandate from Haven." There was an agreement between the people and the ruler to stay in power to contribute to the Chinese civilization (Collective). With one party, there is no other party to blame, the bus stop at the ruling class. The party congress and Xi's job is to resolve the issue for the masses, that is, the mandate and the meaning of socialism. The recent aggressive behavior of the US indirectly forces the Chinese people to have a strong national leader to stand up to the West after growing the economy. China tried democracy from 1912 to 1949. With over a billion people. That didn't work, and KMT (ROC) lost that mandate and overflowed by the peasant, and gave the power to the CCP. That has been a natural course of China since the beginning.
Professor Martin Jacques of Cambridge University knows more about China in her history, culture and government.
Graham Allison also
James Bradley, who wrote "The China Mirage" definitely knows more about China than this political science professor.
As a Chinese myself, I found this presentation very informative. Many of us are worrying about what Xi and the party are trying to do, especially after removing the term limits. That’s why Chinese citizens are always among the top groups of new immigrants in Australia, Canada and the us.
Well the problem of other chinese, they over exaggerate the capabilities of the chinese they become so dense and racist they won't listen to the opinions of foreigners.
Holo Yoitsu
You see Missy, this is an example how a typical chinese liar look, like this other person joining the thread. He is spouting nonsense about the west out of hate without concrete basis, that's what the CCP wants him to do. I don't have any issues with any Chinese but the problem is the CCP wants all the Chinese get dragged to the problem they've created. The west just simply want to share their prosperity and knowledge and the idea of basic rights to all chinese. Just like South Korea and Japan, they're under the guidance of America, you see they have big problems? Nope, not even a story of peoples organs being harvested operated by the government. They're more transparent than China. Just don't believe what other chinese people say negatively about the west, some even love western culture and philosophy. Don't be like those racist stuck ups.
法轮功李洪志大天师麾下右护法兼囼囲蛙研究所副院长--槑窑湾 lies, We don't need to pay our people to see the truth, we have *open* internet.
Cory Gordon
China will not win. Their corrupt american allies swayed by their money and promises will not win. Their empire of lies will crumble. We'll see to it the good chinese people will hang the evil ones including Xi. The free people behind the scenes is now their turn on the offensive and criminals in the world will be the ones on the defense.
脑线，丢人现眼
Wo, Im watching all of this now, during the protests in over 20 cities around China, and I lived in Beijing, Guangzhou and Foshan for around 8 and a half year, professor Truex was absolutelly, 100% right back in 2018!!!
So what, it's not like protests are a rare thing in China. Contrary to what western media would tell you.
0:47 critical years
4:17 authoritarian resilience: term limits of 10 years; anointing successor in advance; retirement age; power-sharing
8:42 enter Xi
3 troubling trends
32:44 cult of personality
33:57 yes man politics
35:40 surveillance state
39:08 end of an era
these are all common sense for Chinese. No insights!
As a Chinese from mainland, coming back to China after living several years in a western country, I have to say this guy does know something about China (basic facts one can easily learn from some exposure to China or even from mainstream western media), but some key points and underlying logic of his narration about Chinese politics are just off the target he meant to hit.
Nobody knows how Zhongnanhai work. The professor is quite well-informed as a westerner.
It is a general introduction of China's current political situation. I don't think it is superficial rather general. I feel the speaker's view is rather objective and accurate. Not bad at all.
How sure are we?
Michel Foucault said that there are "panopticons" developed in western society, and now we have "faceless gaze" everywhere. so it is not a phenomenon only exists in China. it's a modern scene in modern society.
LETS FOOL PEOPLE! CHINA IS A FACSIST TOTALITARIAN REGIME ! ALL DOCTORS DETECTING COVID ! DISAPPEARED KILLED ELIMINATED AND YOU SHOW THIS RIDICOLOUS CONTAINERS !
Quite impressed, I actually don't expect to see such a clear view on China and Xi. As a citizen, I will say that I support his anti-corruption campaign, which is outrageous; but meanwhile, I am disappointed by the fact that the liberals are suppressed and the media can't question the change in political area. I hope the country could be more liberal, more rational, more people's welfare oriented, rather than the gov.
莫谈国事
Fu, Well said. One of few posts of Chinese is not rubbish.
2018就是中国由盛转衰的转折点，习包子，景山上的歪脖子树正向你招手。。。LOL
You will be able to learn more from Gordon Chang. He is fantastic. Trust me.
More of a self professed Chinese citizen. FAKE Chinese??
Grossly misunderstood China and Xi Jinping. Another Westerner sees Chinese leaders from the Western point of view using Western value and cultural reference. Can be ignored.
if you disagree with his opinions, it's better to point out where you think he misunderstands, just saying "Western point of view using Western value and cultural reference" is wrong is wildly unconvincing
Speak out your points and lets see how good you are
Tony Lin I guess this (you westerners) is the new slogan of idiots who can't accept their state is a totaliterian. Russians who loves Putin talks like that, Turks who likes Erdogan talks like that and so on.
One must learn rigorously about Chinese history, Shiji, Zuozhuan, Chunqiu, 24 Shi (dynasty of history), Zi Zhi Tong Jian at least and so on. Ancient scripts, Sishu Wujing (4 books and 5 classics) at least and so on. Philosophy, Daodejing, Yinyang, Martial arts of Sunze at least and endless of books to understand a Chinese leader. There is no easy leadership in China, not based on popularity.
Otherwise, any comments are just plainless.
Keawe Wong Isn't Marxism western point of view?
29:35 India and Brazil's corruption is as bad as China, while those two are considered as democracies.
Google is allowed in both countries, therefore corruption is Ok.
While there is corruption, there is far more freedom and democracy than in the CCP.
Much worse and also some European countries
Simply false... freedoms are similar in almost all facets of life except that of the right to politically organize against the government... I would say those are in jeopardy in the west as well... please go live in China and make up your own mind, don’t be brainwashed by your media
Saintly Beginnings seemingly, you certainly don’t know what’s about freedom, don’t you?
Your freedom is different from us, cause your police can shoot anyone down on the streets, it’s quiet free for everyone to be shot by your police, that’s freedom on your side.
Prof Truex stated very clearly that the problem with China studies is that they can't study it better than what the Chinese media offers. His work is more like summarizing recent Chinese politics in the most abbreviated manner.
Listen to Yukon Huang of Carnegie, he is a much better commentator. This Truex guy is very narrow minded, typical Western liberal democrat, not really all that interested in Chinese culture, more interested in confirming his prejudices about "corruption" and "authoritarianism" in China.
This is okay as a simplistic intro to CCP and nothing more. It's ironic how he criticises Western oversimplification and does the same thing himself.
2 years later revisiting this spectacle piece of information, finally some of the reasons starts to make sense. Even though, I still find it’s difficult to grasp anything in substance in terms of, well, motivation behind it.
Like, literally, why?
What do you mean?
His level of knowledge of China and the Chinese political system is on par with Gordon Guthrie Chang. And that is not saying much.
Obviously, I have to admire Professor Truex who has a comprehensive knowledge about contemporary China, even its leader President XI. For those were worried about arising of China, the question would be whether they are ready to accept an entire new systems in terms of political, society, culture and value. the conflict was happen when one country feels hurt while its benefits was stolen such as IP, or losing control on the order. therefore, i should say solve all the issues would be trying to accept differences.
Living in China, people do not feel authoritarian system as Professor indicated. Daily life in China is not much different than that of in America. I don’t care about election but I do care about people’s living getting better. In America.other than rich, the ordinary people’s life is getting worse
Stop trying to "help" China. Clean up your own house and show your model works.
As a long time expat living in China, this young junior professor has read all the established western political ideology as required to qualify for his employment. As a China expert ...... (1) he has NOT read Xi Jinping's book ???. (2) He assumes way too much vs actually knowing what he is talking about. (3) He rides the usual western geopolitical hobby horses, without giving any real new insight.
A "ghost" ( or being possessed wilfully ) speaker in action. He is using his prestige to push someone else's agenda by preaching ( they call it propaganda in China ).
I see a lot of criticism of the talker in the comments but no actual explanation of exactly what he said that's incorrect. Please explain exactly what was factually incorrect.
I laughed so hard at this self-proclaimed China expert, I spilled my coffee. Then I remembered this is Google Talk, and I figure they are still sour with China.
k lu 有什么好笑的，我看了一半，讲的不是常识么？你觉得哪里有问题？
@@simonma8752 是啊，我就覺得他講的都還蠻中肯的。
@@simonma8752 这个教授还是保持着美国人特有的观念。 的确， 他讲的有些东西是常识。 但是在谈到习的背景， 政府用AI来识别人像等， 应该与美国的NSA作比较， 同时应该讲述美国CIA如何在世界各地包括目前的香港搞颜色革命（用网络传媒FACEBOOK）。 就会理解中国政府的很多行为和政策了
@@sungjohnny3640 you forgot one critical difference - USA is already a democracy with various legal ways to take down any presidents or government in office that the people do not want - and thus no need for worrying much about people toppling the USA government like the CCP have to do all the time and so they have to have an average of two camera on every single chinese citizen - yet nobody can monitor the CCP - unlike in other civizied developed countries where the government have to answer to the people - that, is the real difference. The NSA monitor the nation for true national security measures, but the CCP monitor the nation for their own political security - who really is going to invade China with its massive land mass and massive number of people any invader and conquering country has to spend tons of resources and effort to control and administrate a vastly different group of very different culture - who would want to risk international reputation to do something like that that brings lots of trouble to the invading country itself ? This is already very evidence as you can see since WWII, where the UK has been giving back control of pretty much all its former colonies back to the local people's rule - except for HK - because CCP objected to letting UK to allow HK's own self governance and stupidly the UK went along with CCP's demand, not knowing the CCP will go extreme in abusing its own people like we have seen in HK in recent months -
@Issay Gebregziabher USA has been doing development work, education work, and USA common familes doing missionary works, moving entire families to China to build schools; USA common families adopting baby girls with missing limbs birth defects given up unwanted by their chinese parents; USA convincing France UK Russia not to split up China during the eight countries war; USA flying tigers helping China fighting against Japanese air Force during the war, USA helping to keep Taiwan safe from the CCP, avoiding more bloodshed, USA force keeping peace around the world, helping local powerless people to get rid of the dictators hurting their own people, etc yes of course there are economic profits involved, regional influence involved, to ensure those countries do not fall to new dictatorship regimes anymore, to release the local women bound by their religion, bring equality to the women, allowing young girls to go to school safely...yes those Islamic militants hurting those girls , as if you have not heard the news. China is now doing the same, to spread it's own influence and propaganda , but instead of hiring and building local educated workforce, China only allow the local people to do cheap labour work. The important work all done by Chinese they bring over. China effort all controlled by the CCP, for political purposes, unlike the Americans'. Of course there are bad apples in the USA armies, killing innocent people. Those bad apples war crimes been revealed and they were prosecuted in military court. The USA military tried to avoid collateral damages and innocent lives killed whereas the opponents dragged the civilians into fighting for them, kidnapping young local children to fight for them, hiding among local civilian dwellings that increase the chance of dragging local people into fatality counts, same dirty tactic used by the CCP in the old days against the KMT army putting the common people in front of the PLA army
Xi Jinping smile has got magically loving friendly attraction. Answer to one spectators question.
HE IS THE BEST THING THAT HAPPENED TO CHINA !!
Don't like the idea of voting for support leaders based on looks.
That's how you get Trudeau.
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@@rishidronadula2493 it breaks my heart to see the exceptionalism fueled imperialist in the comments.. i am not trying to be rude i am sure you believe you are right and have no real idea of what and why the u.s has been doing around the globe for years... the western propaganda and war driven lack of a real culture is devastating for the population and most people can not see it. if someone is telling you to hate something it is always best to look elsewhere for the unbiased truth of that thing!!
While there are many points that I agree with professor Truex, but I think he made two huge errors on Xi's era and surveillance.
1. Xi's era is definitely not a closed era. Today is a global village, there is literally no place to "close" to start with. Secondly, it was US that imposes tariffs on other countries, specifically China, this is more of an action for closed diplomats isn't it? There maybe a few "closed" things in China, but I believe it is due to US aggression and Western containment of China in general. Let's not forget how US started wars on Iraq and now a trade war on a global scale, I believe those were only defensive measures implemented by China.
2. Surveillance. I think it is EXTREMELY ironic and hypocritic that an American is making fun of other countries on their advanced surveillance system. US is the number ONE police state in the world, and China is literally learning all these from US. Of course, US implement the system to protect themselves from "terrorists", while China implement the system to protect themselves from "protesters." But it was US that has both more advanced surveillance structure and technology, China is actually behind.
As a Chinese, I know there are many problems in the system and it may take years or decades for these problems to go away. However, I am sure the Western world also has their own problems created by their very own system. The conflict, ultimately, comes down to this. Western world wants everyone to play by their rule, and there is an Eastern country that, is finally both economically and militarily strong enough to say NO.
western-minded so-called political science is a joke.
it's true, that's why rich person and elites of China all moved aboard
A lot of super rich moves abroad EVERYWHERE. to take money out, less tax, etc. not just China. and lots of money are never truly clean in China for the super rich, thats more why they move money out as well.
how many rich people in China?and how many rich people move aboard?
Do the math,then talk.
@schaFu
ha ha, that is funny! Aboard instead of abroad... nice word-play! One has to be aboard to be a billionaire in China, right!
To all western viewers, there is no insight in this talk at all. If you can read Chinese and follow Chinese news as a typical Chinese person, you know everything he said in this talk. This talk makes me think that the standard of being a professor in political science as a China expert is surprisingly low in the US.
Ahm what does MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA OF CCP do???
@@eugenefortes172 czcams.com/video/w9hFAlqKmfM/video.html This guy asked the same question.
"Power should not be too concentrated" 👍
Very impressive. The most accurate and comprehensive talk about China in English on youtube I've seen in years. It's sad to see all these 50 cents army try to twist the reality in the comment.
petersu33 not really, it sounds like superficial pop journalism for mass consumption, and liberal monism or circle jerking
Maybe I need to drag some recording equipment to the local bar in Kennedy Town on Hong Kong Island next time I go drinking. I get better and more accurate analysis from my friends over a dozen cold beers after a few hours than from this kid. Are you shittin me?
Now let’s hear you critique China
@petersu33
Try China Uncensored, youtubechannel , if you have not already
@Johney Smith
Notify CCP: Need for better 50 cent army is imminent! best regards, your smiling Mao in the sky!
Professor has much more to learn and be educated about China's political system and how and why it has evolved to today. He lacks still the depth to enable a proper discourse and maybe formed his assumptions (most of the time) based on the political history of only the past few centuries. I would suggest anyone interested in understanding China's politics or trying to understand in depth China's politics and way of governance to include an indepth knowledge of the political system and governance of China stretching back thousands of years of civilization.
Knowledge gathered will lead to Wisdom in this 21st Century, and I believe China is just trying to prove it for the good of Humanity as a Model.
as a professor, the content he talked about so surfacial, his knowledge is no more than a random beijing taxi driver
proabbly less. food cart person would know more than this
China is one of the finest and resilient nation.
As a native chinese I had to say his observations are quite exact, the talk is very objective (of course compared with other western propganda on chinese political system), but he missed some subtlties. To truely understand how CCP works, why CCP and Xi took the moves that looked quite "obscure" to observers from other civilizations, one have to dig into the building and fighting history of CCP. For example to understand why the top 3 three positions are held by one person, you have to look bakc to the history of CCP in 1921-1934. There were very severe damages caused by the division of the 3 top positions and CCP learned quite a lesson from this. Anyway this is a good talk.
He is not sure if Xi is genuinely popular, I assure you, he is.
So far..
There are quite a lot of Chinese nationalists around here.But for me,I think Professor Truex makes some good points.
江帆迟 at the least he fills in a few details if you're not obsessive about foreign nations' affairs
They aren't nationalists. They're communist bots that are hired to infiltrate the free internet of the west, or "wumaos" as we usually call them.
LeckMichImArsch .nah some of them are not even Chinese .
The vast majority don't actually make a particular point. They don't disagree with anything specifically. They'll just make over generalized statements about how he doesn't understand China or other very broad statements.
@Jimmy Bobby
Because Asian ppl usually look at things holistically means they look at the whole picture , but not a particular problem as a root. Take for eg, the difference between Chiinese medicine and western medicine. A person seeing a doc because of a stomach problem.Western medicine only look for causes of a particular stomach ailments , but Chinese medicine may look at your tongue, your fingernails , stomach and ask about the food that a patient eats and others.
The issue between the disposition of a people to live in an authoritarian state or a democratic liberal state is not about education, self interest, or power. It is about culture and values.
Chinese cultural values is quite cut throat to put it lightly. If one person assumes they should be in power.; they must prove their worth by action and be tested every day. Not every 4 years. If this person was chosen and they somehow do something opposite to what they say. Protest, and kick them out. Why wait 4 years.
In Chinese thinking as I understand it, this is the major flaw with the US system. It makes people believe they could change a system by outsourcing their efforts to some inanimate structure. When in reality, the structure is populated by human beings who have self interest - where in the most egregious cases, they hold no principles and will only stop immoral behavior by force.
In China, this is the social contract. Chinese people if they truly care should aim to put their words into action and fulfill what they believe is right. The CCP are also populated by Chinese people, and they believe they are right. One side who has the greater will, power, competency, and bravery will win and that is why they become the leaders. The government is modeled upon this notion entirely. Not because of theory or academics, but because of the culture inherited.
This is perhaps the reason why Chinese views don't look too highly on democracy or the overall system in general that is based on election cycles. The opportunity to change a leader is every second. To wait in intervals is to limit ones power, and to accept this is quite naive and the sentiment for some Chinese I may describe seems akin to cringe.
When it so happens a system does not work or makes a mistake, and it does not solve or reform the issue, their legitimacy is in question. This is how CCP or just China takes problems more seriously. When a president gets elected, and mistakes happen or failures don't get resolved, they can blame it on other people. They can rely on people to wait 4 years and when that election cycle comes, they'd only be reminded of the problem by the opposite candidate. Even then, the candidate who challenges the incumbent may not even solve the problem in their run.
In China, if one thing goes wrong, the time bomb ticks faster. This is cultural. The anxiety is felt by everyone and it seems from the outside like a hive mind. When there is a problem and it is not solved, blaming the government is in itself something Chinese people don't do automatically. There is leeway but not a fixed one like 4 years that favors postponing the problem.
But when there is some embarrassing thing or piece of news that casts Chinese people or China in a bad light, it is not just an insult to the government, but to the people and civilization as a whole. I think the narrative goes something like this: how can I live in a country like this? How is it I am part of this culture/civilization/people and this happens - what does this say about me? Along these lines, if the problem is legitimate, everyone will have the incentive to solve it and find and let those who are competent fix it. Chinese take it personal. If the problem is a lie, then that is taken personal as well.
I think in part it is also due to language, which would go without saying if it is culture we are talking about. The word for country is 国家, which is the combination of the word boundary or territory, and family. So country for Chinese is sort of like the national family. It adheres to Confucian ideas of strict roles above self interest. Like in a family, the children obey, and the parents lead and protect. One might say that it is oppressive, if they believe family structures with a father or mother is by experience oppressive. But in practice, it has some expectations that are peculiar in the west. And, this rests in how as a people consider the government as the parents, the people consider themselves as children - to obey - but also to be taken care of in all possible ways akin to how a parent takes care of kids. Clothe them, feed them, house them, take care of their emotions. This view lends itself to supporting an authoritarian model in so far as it can achieve all the things in life that is to be solved to the fullest extent; it also lends itself to a people creating something like a nanny state. The people can't take care of themselves so the government must do so.
This obviously is different in the US. They have no trust in the government and for Chinese lenses it is like having no trust in your parents - which is fair - and thus one can disobey. This is predicated on how far the parents or government do not fulfill their role - to provide everything. If the CCP weren't able to provide everything, they would not be accepted. In the US, if the government can't provide everything, that is to be expected. And, a legitimate government is one that can do this so long as there are elections. This I think bluntly Chinese culture sees as rather stupid. If there is something the parent does not provide, the children can cry for their needs and throw a tantrum. They don't wait in time out on their own. The counterbalance is for the parents to control the tantrum, and the degree they can do that depends on how far they can be a parent and assume control, as well as actually amend their actions to suit their role. The other option is for the children to run away. And I think mainlanders has this sort of disposition to the diaspora - children who ran away. Perhaps understandably due to trauma, but if it is not clear that is the case, it is betrayal - like a family member who's betrayed the family.
Keep in mind, this is ideas of Confucianism that stretches all the way back around the 6th century before Christ. Every subsequent dynasty legitimates themselves by following this role and how far they succeed at it, and the people themselves following their roles and changing the dynasty as the parental role is not fulfilled. This is the disposition guiding the idea of the Mandate of Heaven.
In the west, it sounds like divine rule, where the monarch is appointed by God. It is a bit different in China. Heaven is also taken to mean the entire reality of nature and circumstances. The signaling factor what determines an emperor or dynasty has the mandate is represented through how well they respond to crisis. In the West or at least Europe, divine rule is truly absolute, and even when there is crisis they ruler is meant to stay regardless. And, in some sense, this is how Chinese see the US, where even when their ruler does not solve crisis, they are still treated as rulers - as if by divine rule and right. Not having a belief system like the mandate of heaven becomes more legitimate in the eyes of Chinese as it solves crisis, and thus the CCP embodies their role and will to keep the mandate. The US still believes in divine rule, where just because a country has a certain system, i.e. democracy, it is legitimate. This goes to explain how even when bad stuff happens or gets worse - they system doesn't change. Changing the president is not change to Chinese - so long as it is within the system that was given divine rule in the eyes of Americans, it is not change, the reigns are still held by the same rulers.
Thus I think Chinese view the West just as the US views Chinese - not brave enough to change their government. I think in the eyes of Chinese, waiting 4 years is not brave, it is a bit lazy and neglectful. And, if one keeps doing the same things of the 4 year cycle and the system and not protesting it, then really the problem is on the people themselves - they chose their fate when they don't have the will to change it or are lied to choose actions that don't. In China, the election is every second of every day. The entire system has manifested from this cultural disposition to service this belief system and approach, and that is why it becomes authoritarian. It is one interpretation to see waiting 4 years as civil, but there is another that sees it as choosing to be docile. As both the people become weak asserting their demands - the government becomes weak in fulfilling them. China took so long to be able to get to this point because the standards seem ridiculous to those outside looking in, but I think for Chinese people it works as it is meant to throughout their history or civilization. This is how I think some Chinese see the US somewhat pejoratively by specifying how young the country is. If a civilization hasn't lasted 2k to 4k years, it hasn't proven itself to last - the beliefs have not lasted or been tested in the sufficient duration of training.
He is a repeater or transmitter. But with missing info
So true...
He is just spewing the same crap from the western MSM.
2018就是中国由盛转衰的转折点，习包子，景山上的歪脖子树正向你招手。。。LOL
@@user-mb3mf2og9k How about now, after October 1, 2019?
The crooked tree up on King Shan(景山) has been shot down by a Dong Feng 17.
very superficial analysis on China, typical so called "China expert" in the US. Not laughable but sad.
@Jedi solo this is nothing to do with right or wrong, this is an analysis by this american professor on China, not America and not you.
of course rest of the world is wrong, consider the economic growth of china?
Well, these American "China experts" are led by an invisible hand. What they say and what they write have to pander to the mainstream taste in the US.
Little chef Lev: Please spend your wu mao wisely.
法轮功李洪志大天师麾下右护法兼囼囲蛙研究所副院长--槑窑湾: An amazing vitriol fuelled diatribe full of sweeping generalisations showing a total ignorance of people outside your inner circle! I know why you are so angry with your liberal use of profanities. You were told by your boss to write all this extended content for wu mao. Poor fellow. remember to spend your money wisely. And stay away from all those wicked women!
Professor Zhang is the head of the Research Center of Fudan University in China. He used to work with President Deng as an interpreter during Deng's Era.
逗逼，张维维讲的跟这个教授有什么冲突吗，张维维说中国体制好，西方体制不好，这个教授也没说哪个好哪个不好呀，只是介绍了习近平的情况，你着啥急呀，傻逼
Prof. Rory Truex's mandarin is flawless in terms of pronounciation and if his chinese vocabulary is on par with the average Chinese level, I would say he is more Chinese than I myself.
However I can't comment on his POV of the Chinese political arena, but wow am I impressed by this professor.
Open question.
For everyone in the comments who's saying he's not an expert, can you explain that to me? I agree he's influenced by his western mindset but only to the extent that he emphasised the Democracy-Autocracy divide, something all western commentators do. Overall I'd say he was more aware than most.
I agree with you. I think this speaker touched on this topic fairly, and he does know China quite well.
Henry Ficklin don’t listen to internet trolls.
Really
You all think that you know asians ... HOW PITY YOU ALL ARE !!!
@@louischau7982 Explain
pretty right,he is an expert.
This young guy was touching on a subject (that he could have gone much more in-depth) on the surface and he sounded so shallow! Is he worth the salt being a professor at an Ivy League institution of higher learning (Princeton University) or has American educational standard been in rapid decline, faster than its economic and political clout abroad?
The professor’s Chinese pronunciation is perfect, and so is
the translation for the Thought.
On another note, having just finished reading The Analects,
I don’t think Confucius advocated autocratic rule. He meant that an order is
constantly needed but not that a particular order has to exist forever. A shop
that sells Baozis for which it uses good meat and unique recipes opens just a
very small window for accepting payments and delivery of Baozis. If the people
wishing to buy do not queue up and just swarm around the tiny window, nobody
will be able to get any.
And Confucius advocated that a superior should treat his subordinates
with etiquette (respect included) and a subordinate should be loyal to his superior.
This is exactly a commonality among western companies, most companies at least.
A boss treats his employers with respect, or at least superficially, and an employee
tries to do his work well and be dutiful.
About the party try to police itself to tag the corruption fighting, one can arguably use the same term on the American Corruption fighting.
Well it does feel like it shouldn't take a Princeton professor to say this much.
Also, I would suggest you have a l Professor Zhang Wei Wei's videos in CZcams or his books in Chinese form of government. This will give you an insight of Chinese History, Culture and form of Government.
傻逼，这个教授只是客观介绍了一下中国目前的政治现状，又没有提观点，没说好还是不好，他讲的有什么问题吗
Objective comments are more appropriate in this platform than trolls.
Like their Missionaries before them the European travels to other countries and lives amongst the people with smiles of friendship...then they go back and inform their warriors of weaknesses and strengths, culture and values etc.
I live in china and raising a family here. I can tell you guys from the ground that this professor is misleading the public.
That's the intention. Maybe not his but he is getting paid to do it.
can you share a little bit more, like what points are wrong in your opinion?
Great talk!
Although as a general supporter of the CCP, I still feel uncomfortable with your breath of the Western universal value salvation theory. But compared to a lot of so-called experts on China issues who don't even speak Chinese, you are really professional. Although your speech still failed to convince me, on the premise that the West has already elected Trump and this kind of people, give up supporting the Communist Party. But I have to admit that your speech is very profound, and I also think that there is a surplus of nationalism in China now.
It’s a disgrace that google couldn’t tell the level this guy's understanding on China is too shallow to be taken seriously
@Zhiqiang Tang... I agree with you.
This guys expertise on the subject matter is that... He knows a few lines in Chinese. So yeah.
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Warning! Western propaganda!
I agree that China was more open minded 10 years ago than now, and there is way more surveillance than ever before cause of the technology - definitely a sad thing. how would it evolve and change? I don't know. The current system is so effective in decision making, and the direction they are going is not a bad one for China as a nation. The concerning part is there is no way of reforming from within, to allow different opinions or allow diversity, economic achievement is overpowering everything else.
The obligatory comparison or connection to trump and china is there... Because of course it is, how original. Getting rather sick of those, and I'm not even fond of him, but he really is omnipresent, good for him.
Kudos to China. It is a precious effort for China to hold stable in a period of chaos around the world. Good for the world also; China is going to be a stable place in an unstable world.
Mao's only positive contribution was the establishment of the "New China", he only made negative contributions after that. Deng played crucial roles for the economic miracles that happened in China after Mao's death. Don't comment on Xi now, let us try that after he leaves the stage. I happen to think that Xi is one among the three that has the highest personal integrity and has the potential of contributing much more than his predecessors. I do suspect the purpose of not choosing the successor at the 19th party congress. He is now facing a lot of difficulties in his grand one-belt-one-road project and the trade war with the USA. Let's see what comes out of all these.
you’re only talking about economics here, however, maos contributions were more political and diplomacy, which allows china to operate as one of the three independent nations on earth. it wouldn’t be possible for deng to achieve such success without the cornerstone mao built. of course he made many mistakes in handling economics but hey no one is perfect.
@@HFrevive dude the great famine wasnt exactly an "oops", right?
@@solongkingb3057 well, sounds like you just want to pick up a fight. but the reason behind great leap forward is because mao and other leaders want China to be a real sovereign nation so they rejected ussr's demand in 1959ish, which resulted in ussr stopping giving aids to china. Thats why the great leap forward happened which is trying to industrialize quickly by brut force, which of course failed miserably. but his legacy was still not to be ignored - leaving china as one of the three true sovereign states on earth alone with russia and us.
@@HFrevive I don't wanna pick up a fight, but when you address someone whose policies culminated on millions of deaths with a statement like "buy hey no one is perfect", that's a bit too much, isn't it?
@@solongkingb3057 i just explained the reasons, quite clearly. of course now you can criticize him for whatever reasons. but again, if you just think historic persons as "good" or "evil". its really a naive way of understanding history. if you are interested in chinese history, i can explain more, but if you just want to prove your moral superiority , im out.
Talk about China repression aboard, the CIA is doing much worse in driving wrenches between other countries' leadership and their citizens. In Middle East and in Asia.
we are working with human beings, and must expect individual failings to shape public activities. no one in the west can speak from a point of moral strength, so let's just stick with simple pragmatic evaluations of life in china compared to past years, and life elsewhere. china is flourishing, and the chinese government is making substantial efforts to spread the the benefits and repair the environment. that's more than you can say bout the usa.
This is the worst kind of professor, not very objective and full of false assumptions. These kind of people do great harm to society by pretending that they are not ideologically biased and driven by false beliefs.
I personlly think he's a lacking depth of knowledge, but do expound on "false assumptions." Like? And what kind of "great harm" is caused by some kid yacking to a room with 20 people in it? And how do you define "false beliefs."
It's not easy, is it.
Actually as a Chinese, I am very glad to see that such educated ppl in US and in 2019 still understand China based on imagination and old materials came from 20 year ago.
Your Chinese is quite amazing for a foreigner.
You speak English very well too, for a foreigner
@@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty So, you don't really know that almost every student in China has English course.
Basically I agree with you. Year 2018 is very likely to be the turning point for Chinese political course.
The talk is more cautionary than insightful. There are unique challenges of ruling and providing security to a developing country four times that of America which were not mentioned at all. It would have been helpful to look at the other developing/emerging countries with democracies, and see how well they are succeeding. My understanding is not many survive, and those who do have a lot of issues. Russia was an utter failure, while India is succeeding their GDP is about 1/6th of China. My sense is that the professor does not get the historical, economic, and security dimension of China, and therefore falls short in tying together a narrative for critical analysis. For instance, when a leader first starts to purge his opponents in an anti-corruption campaign it makes sense he'll have to continue and remain in power long enough for not just for his opponents to be powerless, but all "friendlies" of his opponents to be powerless. Otherwise, even if he's able to keep himself safe after the steps down, he may not be strong enough to keep his allies safe.
I remember reading from Professor Galbraith when I was young that in every time and age, there will be persons that will spread the gospel of the group's message. These persons that say and repeat what most institutions think and believe will be promoted to the top and have some kind of attention and fame. I think Mr. Truex is such a person that repeats what the group wants to hear and promotes their beliefs etc. I'm sure he's a bright young man but lacks originality of thought. I think Google was trying to promote some kind of "bad human rights" image onto China for a while before getting kicked out of the county. Let's see if Google can do a more subtle play here and if they'll succeed this time.
Another superficial "Professor" who learnt a few Chinese characters and claim himself an expert in Chinese politics. One simple question to you: over past 5000 years of Chinese history, can you tell me if there is an instance that an united China broke up when the central government and the leader (or emperor) was strong like Mao/Xi?
Qin Dynasty : NO
Han Dynasty : NO
Tang Dynasty : NO
Sung Dynasty : NO
Yuan Dynasty : ... it was not ruled in Chinese way, so ....
Ming Dynasty : NO
Qing Dynasty : NO
Steve Yau Qing was not ruled by Chinese too
Move on... look whats happening now... the world is angry at the CCP.
@@eugenefortes172 What does your "world" mean? In terms of population or history? Is your "world" a mere fraction of Chinese population and history?
Wow a question answered by a question.... what does MINISTRY OF PROPAGANDA do in CCP?
@@eugenefortes172 Question the question first. No one is supposed to "answer" if you don't know what the question is.
AND YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO USE THE WORD "WORLD"!
I wonder what Eric X Li would think of this talk.
Gotta Like Rory and this talk... Why the hell didn't I get Profs like him when I was in College...Phooey... !!!!
the professor shakes his head when he mentioned Donald Trump... i guess everyone has their own problems lol
everyone will die someday, so we don't care?
Very informative even for a native Chinese citizen
Very fascinating talk, I am really glad to hear your perspective.
I found it to be very true that Chinese people that I have spoken with in China and here in Canada will not speak about the sensitive topics that we all know about in the west. I would say that you are doing a service for Chinese folks who want to learn more about things that can not be spoken about in China, but also for others who feel attracted to the Chinese model.
I actually think that the Chinese model works so well in China because of Confucius. He really was a big believer in listening to the emperor and it makes for a different starting point then many other traditions.
Chinese people and systems have done extraordinary well over the course of a very very long time. Surely there is much we can all learn from China. There is a lot more to China then just its political system
It's not very much different in the west. The west emphasis and focuses on human rights and issues of other countries. They tend to ignore their own. Canadian and American aboriginals are pushed on reserves hundreds of miles away from urban areas. They are living in conditions without clean running water and even toilets. Some get as bad as having a few families stuffed in one tent. Their suicide rates, prison representation, alcohol and drug abuse is legacy of the residential school era. But our media only focuses on how much funds they get and how they mismanage it and the corruption in their societies.
The west only sees China in the most negative ways and take their mistakes and broadcasts it like it's what they regularly do, basically defining a country by only it's negatives. They do this so they can focus their citizens thoughts, anger and attention on a different country rather than their own.
You probably didn’t meet ppl that want to talk about it, cuz most of us satisfied with our lives. I talk about it all the time cuz I live in the west too, it’s interesting to know how western social media talk about China and westerners think about China. And the system in China works out because Xi learned from the mistakes that Mao and lots of former leaders made. The system is adjusted to follow changes. And I think it’s good for China compared with situation in the west. Cuz u can not just simply copy a system from the west ignoring there re lots of situations re different from the west( culture, history, domestic problems....)
He talks about "communist" China. China is a capitalist dictatorship. Americans and Chinese pay for college and all but the most basic health care. They and we have very little state run - free services. China and the US completely tied into world commodity trading, practice supply side economics, and both have a growing gap between rich and poor.
They came out of a feudal peasant agricultural economy in the mid 20th century and the US ended feudal agricultural (slavery) 100 years earlier.
Chinese and Americans alike have virtually no role in making policy, especially foreign, military, and economic policy.
Of course there are important differences, but we're more the same than is commonly recognized particularly in economics and the proportion (number) of those ruling to those ruled.
For those who don' t know how communists work in China, this is a very informative session, however, the prof did not answer the questions in the subject, it would be great to have more in-depth analysis
"My Chinese is probably suspect"
*proceeds to speak perfect Mandarin, better than me, a native speaker*
Good job Princeton...
B.S. It was heavily accented; you're no native speaker.
oh look, another westerner LARPing as an Asian.
Speaker speaks with a heavy western accent.
You can criticize all you want, but it only took 20+ years for China to become the 2nd biggest economy in the world and Chinese living stander improving in the fastest rate in the world. I challenge any other western country can compare that?
Yes, in terms of $, China is on the top, no argument needed. But, not everyone worship money, there are other things that the developed countries worship, eg: humanity, human's right, animals welfare, flushing toilets, honesty, kindness, fairness, freedom of expression, politeness, etc.
@@ctowtfI understand your point, but at the same time, you need to understand the current situation of Chinese peoples living standers. China is still not a rich country by all means. the average annual income of a Chinese is only $10,222 USD, compare to the US of $84.300. So, therefore, most People in China would rather have money to buy food feed their family or have a house over their heads. Also, not living in an unstable society. In fact, I'd say that stability is more important than western "human's rights" "freedom" etc... for most Chinese. Food, shelter, job, and family have always been Chinese most care for. at least for now, keep going on the path which is showing great results of success in everyday Chinese life is way better than everyone trying their own ways for how to run the country.
What a misunderstanding and misleading information about 89 event. It was an economic issue turned into political guided by guys like the orator. Those three student leaders of 89 turned into different path to pursue his/her fortune; the lady is chasing her wealth in U.S., one male is still lingering about politics without any audience including U.S. politician including this orator, the last male is selling wealth products in Taiwan. So, this orator is BSing.
I had high hopes for these talks at google. Look at, for instance, the Mark Blyth talk. Just packed with data and insight. I actually somewhat hoped that this speaker would deliver a proper data-driven roasting of Xi but instead failed even to surpass the level of insight of high school educated taxi drivers in China. This is just a regurgitation of any Rachel Maddow show
How could he got his assistant Prof title? Or perhaps that's why he stays there?
This speaker are high school vomitting speaker.scold his head and fuck off from stage.Paid Ass
With all due respect, his speech was as funny as a frog teaching a fish how to swim. His understanding of the history of the CCP and the CCP’s political system is still at the level of subjective imagination. His research may meet the needs of some anti-China politicians in the United States and the West, but it has no academic value for those who really want to understand China and the CCP’s political system.
Thanks Rory - excellent overview!!
Excellent speech!
It's amazing how many hired Chinese commentators there are on this website trying to misconstrue and deem everything he said as irrelevant. He admitted several times that his knowledge is limited due to the opaqueness of Chinese government and its processes. One thing is clear, they are in this comment section in full force so he must have said something right.
Nicholas Hildenbrand right on
THis is so unfair. How do you know they are hired by government? you do book keeping for them? So this is the probelm. You tried to distract people's attention from this speech to some other irrelevant matters. and you do not hesitate to point finger to other people that you do not know. How do we know you are not hired by someone with an agenda? He said his knowledge about China was limited. if that so, he had to be careful with the language, I did not see he managed to do that. You do not blame the audience when you use the wrong expression, am I right?
@@beibeizhang6964 there is no distraction from his speech. There is an outright denial of the obvious obfuscation that exists in the comment section of this video.
If you aren't a part of the obfuscation you should have nothing to worry about or be offended by.
You are just like many westerners that are unsettled by the rise of china and people who don't look or think like you. Blaming Chinese government for everything is your way to deal with your own deep insecurity about this situation. Maybe time to admit that democracy may not be the prerequisite to a country's greatness, and stop pretending to know how each country should be run.
@@halfjin763 There you go trying to turn this into a discussion about the rise of China versus the decline in the west. The purpose of my original comment was that Chinese government hates criticism and will do anything it can, even hire people to run interference in the internet comment section of a CZcams video, to make itself look better. Go ahead and try a million times to veer the conversation off course. It's not going to work.
Rory Truex, next time when someone tells you that you look too young to be a professor, please take it literally and seriously.
Baby0Eva0 quote, “too young , too simple, sometimes naive”, close quote.
I as an ordinary Chinese person soupprt xi for life, we want our leader focus more on economy not “elections”. We only want to have one party represent us. Look at today’s America’ political environment, it is a joke.
I wud hav given this a thumbs up had u given respect/credit 4 PRESIDENT XI/CHINA's anti graft campaign.
It appears that one of my comments has been deleted. A very long one.
I have experienced that too. Same topic. This is Western free speech. Its all working so well! March on!
I always listen to talks like this with hope to learn something different, creative, productive and meanwhile pragmatic, in short, a solution, but only half way through found disappointment of hearing same old narrative. It's most superficial to question a real life operating system in any family, organisation or state, and it's most complex to really make life better in general. Mr Truex has a lot of questions and doubts, but clearly has nothing helpful.
+Ray Kong Obviously you do Ray. Waiting for your insightful CZcams speech buddy.
Exactly.
From which part of my comment you see that? When I see Trump haters' comments, I won't go tell them to be President.
Agree with you this is one of the least helpful Talk at Google I come across.
I find Rana Mitter’s talk about China far more insightful.
@@elizabethmirabella Gosh that's 4 years ago, and thx for the recommendation.
Thank you professor Rory
Chinese never worry about a competent leader having a lot of power. While in the Western democracy, we established Check and Balance to limit it. Throughout China's history, the people and society concerned about Peaceful transition of power after a good leader getting too old to make wise decisions any more,or after he passed away, will there be a bloody struggle among the princes which sometime expanded outside of the royal family resulting in a internal warfare tearing the society apart for a very long period of time. Old dynasty overthrown and replaced by new dynasty.
China become a republic in 1911 to follow the inevitable trend to give democracy a try. Odds are against it. Actually, besides,UK, USA and some Western European countries, doing well( industrialization and colonialism are suspected reasons of their success) after WWII till about 1970's. Latin American, Asian, African and new democracies after breakup of Warsaw pact, Arab spring, the whole third world, failed miserably in the test.
China after the 1978 reform which is quite revolutionary and enjoyed continued success for 4 decades, improvements were pursued in their legal system and maybe political reform to lead to western style democracy. Getting more confidence from the success of economy, science and technology advancements, China looked inward and brought out the old standard of " good governance" vs. " bad governance" and saying it should be the universal standard for all forms of governments, western style democracies or one ruler system like China established by the first emperor 22 centuries ago. It's still too early to pass a judgement.
SEAN PAN just FYI, a Republic isn't a Democracy.
As with most western so call experts of China. He doesn't know as much as he thinks due probably of his own or western opinion.
People only believe in what they like to hear about. So this type of expert can only make money by selling this kind of idea and tone and pleasing the audience here.
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习近平供给侧改革，一带一路，消灭贫穷等等政策都得到了很多支持
What is democracy to me is the vote in election time. Since I can’t control who are the candidates. To me they all are strangers. So I vote according to what the news media told me. American mainstream news medias are very confusing and full of Cold War mentality. They do not give people the realities and mostly propaganda for big corp and government. They were and is demonizing China.
Don't believe the mainstream media. Listen to talks like this one and do watch information from all points of view. You are watching this so I assume you might now how to determine truth for your self after you hear the many sides of an argument,
Who cares if the term is for life. Singapore's prime mister have no term limit either and their government are among the best in the world in terms of governance and being corruption free. The key lies in the governance system, not something petty like term limit. China's system is based on meritocracy, even if Xi is president for life, he doesn't have the power to consolidate power or make his son the next leader. China's president is although not elected, it is selected. Only if the person has started as a small official from small town, moved up to the next rank all the way to the top officials would then be qualified for selection, among many other top official competitors. czcams.com/video/s0YjL9rZyR0/video.html
America's system by contrast is not meritocratic. Its plutocracy, where anybody even with no political experience or done anything honorable can also be elected through its one dollar one vote system. czcams.com/video/PJy8vTu66tE/video.html This is how Trump even gets elected. The truth is while the Chinese government as a whole control its people, America's corporate control the government. Ever wonder why the top 10% of Americans own 50% of all American income and the top 1% own 20% of all American incomes? Why has the median income of middle class Americans stagnated for the past 40 years despite America's economy growing over 3% year after year? Why is America despite the no.1 technological powerhouse in the world, does not have even 1 mile of fast rail built? The only method to travel cross states is oil base transport, like cars, flights and ferries. America's petroleum dollar and its intervention in oil based countries in middle east? I don't think its a coincidence. czcams.com/video/kZU0IXO7AQw/video.html
If you ask me, America is insanely corrupted, except that it is not considered so under its capitalist policies that allow shits to happen unchecked. And no other countries are powerful enough to condemn America on its behaviors and policies. Guantanamo happened and passed just like that. America's illegal invasion of Iraq happened and passed just like that.
What matters is not the governing ideology but good governance. There can be democracy where it fails, degrade to populism and hijacked by plutocracy and there can also be authoritarian governments that produce good results, improving living standards of the people. The reverse is also true. So start talking about good and bad governance, not ideologies. People harping on ideologies as if they are absolute are destine for conflict, after all everyone has their own ideologies just like they have their own culture. What people should do is find common grounds where they can work and cooperate on. Don't try to meddle with the governing system and ideology of others.
I recommend people to read up on Andrew Yang, a presidential candidate for 2020 election. His's policies are based on pragmatism to be injected into America's current system. He does not oppose America's traditional ideology but he does it pragmatically to get there instead of just preaching about the ideology over and over as if it would magically happen.
Really appreciate the way you put light on this subject. Every story have two sides
For me it seems like if china got extreme xenophobia,specially towards religion. I am from India and in my personal experience communism or capitalism, democracy or authortian doesn't really matter. All the subject boil down to money if have it than government is good and if not than that person is just under the bottom of food chain and getting extorted to death so to keep running the system.
almost everything he said is based on his speculation. It was really funny tho, when he said Chinese students were monitored, and afraid to speak up.
It isn't speculation. He does interviews with people inside China. He also follows Chinese media and social sites. He speaks with and goes to conferences with other experts on China. Overseas students are in fact monitored by other Chinese students. This has been documented in Australia and the U.S.
ScorpionChina it’s very fun, 5-eyes country talks about monitoring