Rapid Aerial Extraction System (RAES®) test
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- RAES® (reiz) is the Rapid Aerial Extraction System from Modern Technology Solutions, Inc., a patent pending system for transporting objects or persons using a long tether attached to an orbiting platform.
This system expands on work done in the 50's by missionaries in Central America and Air Force research done in the 60's and 70's. Little was done in the ensuing 50 years until the present.
MTSI is uniquely positioned to demonstrate a tethered payload capability that will enable contested/denied/urban area operations. The RAES® system allows loitering fixed/rotary wing or unmanned wing aircraft to precisely emplace/extract on or above the ground while the aircraft flies several thousand feet above the location using a technique called long-line loiter technique.
The concept is platform agnostic and can easily be configured for payload, weapon, or sensor insertion/extraction into similar areas. System could allow for strike aircraft to conduct self-rescue (hence the name RAES® pronounced RAISE), or clandestine aircraft to insert or exfil precious cargo while flying above threats, potentially undetected.
Copyright© 2019, Modern Technology Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. Foreign and Domestic Patents Applied for. RAES™ is a registered trademark of Modern Technology Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. - Věda a technologie
Extraction arrived at Mother Base.
the real question is,
would someone even be able to breath with all that wind rushing into their face
@@getthegoods420 the Fulton Surface-to-Air Recovery System was an actual device used irl. And yes, the humans were fine. Only one fatal accident occurred in its 17 years of use.
@@wellifailed392 what happened in the accident bro?
@@cuponoodles2474 One of the mechanical components failed, causing the recoveree to fall to his death.
Are you gonna extract him boss?
Subject on board. Leave the rest to us.
Is he coming too ?
Roger that
Love the MGS V references in the comments lol.
Every single video on the Fulton is filled to the brim with MGSV: TPP references. Not even joking.
you never cease to amaze me, Boss.
Extraction arrived at mother base
*Boss , he's coming too?*
The Fulton recovery system, I’m familiar with the theory
Sir,
How does this resemble the Fulton Recovery System?
benbosma sorry I was quoting mgs3. Like I looked up the frs and this popped up
No problem, @@SarkastikObserver . I'm always looking for criticism of these systems. I spent a great deal of time with the Fulton Recovery System and its crew members and although they have the same mission they don't operate the same way.
Thanks for your input.
benbosma cool glad we got an understanding 👍
@@SarkastikObserver How dare you compare this to the Fulton recovery system.
I hope they recovered a SSS Ranked Soldier.
The people that design these systems are geniuses. I can’t even imagine the amount of stress you must have as an engineer to make sure what you are designing is as safe and effective as possible. Great video, thank you for sharing!! I found this, like many others, through searching if the Fulton Recovery System (popular to non military people because of the Metal Gear Solid video games) was a real thing. This looks more efficient
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"Bon Voyage!"
**BF4 Theme hits**
Just played that mission like 1 min ago
A man of culture
"Boots on fucking ground recker, boots on fucking ground!"
10/10
You take way to long, all you have to do is press triangle for 2 seconds and that's it, straight to mother base.
Kept you waiting huh
Came from battlefield... geez looks intense hehe
im playing mgs and searched youtube if its for real
I like that this can be used with smaller plane than the Fulton Recovery System(not the video game version). However the one benefit the Fulton Recovery system would have is that you eventually get pulled on board the plane(which you'd want if in the arctic where the FRS was used) but this seems like it could rapidly take someone behind terrorist lines back to friendly territory.
The RAES patent does address bringing the survivor onboard. It depends on the platform. The fighter version can't do that, but the transport version can. There are also versions in development that have a pod that can carry two people and are enclosed to protect the occupants.
@@benbosma
I dealt with some of these type programs when in Germany as a Forward Air Controller. We were always apprised of the methods of escape, evasion, extraction. We knew how to go in, and we had multiple exits out. This type was certainly one of the last choices, but I think that ground fire would be the primary danger, but one would quickly go out of sight from the ground, and troops on the ground ahead would not be expecting a man to be flying through the air, then, again, out of sight.
@@roberthamill1277 The whole idea behind RAES is to get the IP out and away from "red" into "yellow" where conventional CSAR can get to them. That's why we are developing a podded version for a weapons station on a fighter.
It's not a perfect solution but it beats getting skinned and dragged through the streets.
We're developing a version that lowers a 2-person pod for maritime rescue. It is designed to be lowered from a transport like a C-130 and can fish survivors from the water and get them aboard. Obviously, not a high threat application but a lot better than nothing when range is a factor and in the Indo-Pacom theater it's always a factor.
Thanks for your comment.
He’s coming too? Roger that.
*Good, now try this on a tank*
They don't have Cargo 2 Fultons
@@guardis6194 you beat me to it lol
There seems to be a lot of disadvantages for this system compared to the Fulton recovery system. The issues with getting the recovered person into the aircraft, for one. Two, this tension line method requires the pilot to circle around in a pattern while everywhere on the ground is readied whereas with Fulton if it's timed correctly the pilot could just make a single pass, catch the line and then get out of dodge - as it currently stands this system puts the aircraft over the target for multitudes longer than Fulton (and having an aircraft circle over a place for several minutes when there might be MANPADs or other air defenses around isn't great, it's also a very good way to be pointing a neon sign at you advertising everyone that you're there and doing something). Third, it requires MUCH more co-ordination and skill on part of the pilot - Fulton also requires precise flying, but at least with Fulton the pilot doesn't need to monitor tension of the wire or anything with flying a pattern like this.
That said, there are some advantages. Namely it being able to be used on virtually any aircraft whereas with Fulton, you need a dedicated aircraft with the "horns" to catch the balloon and line safely. Also, while Fulton isn't as violent as people think it is (I remember reading someone say it was less jarring than opening a parachute), if someone is injured with, say, a spinal cord injury and you don't want to injure them further - this was a very gentle recovery.
Thank you for your comments. If you link to the actual application video. You’ll know that this system is much faster than Fulton. I studied the Fulton system for a long time before coming up with a solution. As a former fighter pilot the biggest problem with Fulton is you had to wait for the C130 or somebody to deliver the Fulton kit. The system had to be assembled and a balloon was raised which also highlighted your position. With this system any aircraft carrier pod and deliver it to you and lift you. The record lift is about 85 seconds after an ejection. Fulton is more like 4 to 6 hours at best and days at worst. In today’s environment you’re not gonna last that long. Also the system is not designed to put you back in an aircraft you will release yourself from the tether and parachute to an area where conventional rescue can take care of you.
RAES®
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@@benbosma
Another thing, too, is that as far as I'm aware the United States military stopped keeping Fulton recovery system gear and aircraft in a readiness state sometime in the late 1990s or so. It's surprising that it was never brought back during the GWoT. But that's also another advantage of RAES, since there isn't a need to justify having dedicated aircraft just to use it.
Welcome home, Boss!
Snake, it's just a mannequin, leave it alone.
You’re going to to extract him?
Excellent!!!
HE'S COMING TOO,BOSS?
I remember reading about Nate Saint lowering phone equipment to missionary bases in Central America in the 50s.
Boss, the man you extracted unfortunately died from his injuries, however he did tell us some vital information before he passed
How did he die? Explain.
@@benbosmadied of ligma, so sad
@@user-yk9sz9mh1t Ha Ha
After: Get back out of the hot zone... Mission complete, Snake. :)
Good to see that Buster is doing other hobbies.
Had a really weird moment watching this. I started skydiving this year and at the beginning I went "oh that looks like the recovery truck at the DZ. Then oh those look like the hangers at the airport. Then I saw the lyme pond at the end of the runway really interesting to come across a random video from somewhere so close.
Bruh this looks fun as hell.
This is impressive work. Give me a job!
This is great.
Your taking him too? Roger that.
Stand corrected. That is really neat.
Very interesting concept certainly seems more forgiving than the old school sky hook but it occurs to me that if if for extracting someone who got shot down in a fighter that's a mighty long while to be loitering around in a Cessna.
This is how it's employed. I put a stop watch at the bottom right from the time he ejects to the time he's back in the air.
I'm a fighter pilot. I don't want to wait on CSAR to find me. I want my wingman to get me out.
czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html
Subject on board, leave the rest to us.
In the future, they'll be using wormholes.
How does it work? How does the airplane attach to it?
Very much rapid!
Just use a wormhole. It would be quicker and faster.
The Dark knight perfected this
*_"And now, for something completely different."_* 😊
Sir,
how would this system deliver the survivor? Now it was a parajump at the end. Are there any other methods such as winching him into the aircraft? I guess that putting him down like with the SPIES would not be pleasant.
Cheers, keep up the good work!
Very astute, Andy. In fact we have a system that does winch the survivor into the back of a C-130. There is also development of a pod that can be lowered, boarded and lowered softly for unloading. It has an emergency parachute and can hold two people.
Thanks for your question.
You're gonna extract him?
He's coming too? Roger that
They delivered and picked up mail that way in the early days .
Phillip, you're thinking of a different system where the aircraft is travelilng in a straight line. This system lowers a tether from an orbit. This tether drops from the host aircraft very quickly. Once it's on the ground the payload (in this case a person) attaches to the tether and is lifted when the host aircraft rolls out of the orbit.
@@benbosma they did use orbital flight to deliver and gather mail in the early days . You know that the more you learn the less that you know . You must know a lot !
Thank you,@@philliplopez8745 . I found most of the use was in jungle delivery by missionaries.
He’s coming to!
Not bad! Good find, and good job getting it locked down. Too bad Nate Saint didn't patent it back in 1954.
Will this help if u have seconds to escape from the enemy?
Like this
czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html
Have an honest question.
Can you maybe explain how is this more efficient (or maybe safer?) than the Fulton?
1. It seems to take longer to execute and the plane needs to carry a LOT of cable in and out of the Extraction Zone, requiring a lot of fuel --> shortening the range.
2. The plane dropping the cable to the ground seems less controlled and more dangerous than extending the cable from the ground like Fulton.
3. The plane seems to be spending quite a substantial amount of additional fuel and seems to be more exposed to the enemy fire / weather doing those orbits instead of doing a single low alt. pass like the Fulton.
Thanks!
This was a test.
I’ve been to SOCOM and spoken to the experts on Fulton and seen the equipment. Fulton requires the survivor to deploy a balloon with a 400ft tether and harness. That kit has to be delivered to the survivor somehow. That can take days to get to them. The only means of extracting him is by specially equipped C-130 transports none of which exist anymore. The C-130 has to fly over the survivor at 300ft and catch the tether just below the balloon. This is a challenge and highlights the Herc and survivor with the balloon and (at night) strobe light pointing to the rescue zone.
RAES is designed to be deployed with the strike package in a pod on a fighter that can deploy it to rescue a wingman. I made a video of that.
In practice I’ve flown with tethers several miles long we’ll above small arms.
We’ve demonstrated rescue in less than 90 seconds after ejection compared to days for Fulton.
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@@benbosma Thank you for the quick and informative reply man!
@@benbosma Days for fulton? you are aware that the equipment is delivered to the personnel by parachute, right? it doesn't take days for a parachute to fall..
@@wellifailed392 the Fulton systems are gone. However, when they did deploy it took an average of two days to get the system on a C-130 and to the survivor. There were only two Combat Talon aircraft that had the recovery systems. So even if you got the balloons, cables and strobes to the survivor they still had to wait for the very rare Combat Talon recovery aircraft to come to the scene.
I spent time with the Combat Talon crews. Great guys. Highly skilled but they can’t be everywhere. RAES is designed to be organic to the strike package. A flight of four fighters will have two rescue pods in the flight. A rescue can be executed in as little as 85 seconds after an ejection.
Subject in , leave the rest to us
What's the difference between the RAES and the Fulton Recovery System?
This is how RAES is deployed. czcams.com/video/zxE8qU3Xh-M/video.html
I spent time with Fulton crews. This is a completely different rescue system. It’s deployed from the rescue aircraft which is part of the strike package. Fulton takes about 2 hours after an ejection. RAES is less than 2 minutes.
@@benbosma Copy that, thanks mate 👍
He's coming too? Roger That.
No for public dissemination huh?
Ooops
What do you mean?
@@benbosma This line is in the last paragraph of the description:
"This video is not for public dissemination. Copyright© 2019, Modern Technology Solutions, Inc."
Posting to CZcams is most definitely "public dissemination"
So are you authorized to put this out to the public or did you find it somewhere and post it to your own account? Something is fishy here.
Looks like somebody at MI6 can't keep his (or her) mouth shut -- wouldn't be the first time!
KG7TUO It ain't that deep
KG7TUO nothing fishy. I just didn’t remove that from the video when I posted it. It originally went to our customer first. I’ll fix it when I get back to my regular workstation. Good catch!
Test the wormhole fulton.
Not even 2.0 G at anytime during the test! Wow!
You're bring him along?
Great stuff . . . BUT . . . the military has been doing this for years with the MC-130 Fulton Surface-to-Air Recovery System. We were doing it with C-130's in the 60's. What's to patent here?
Hi Frank, thanks for your service!
We're in an orbit over the survivor and let down a harness. Fulton requires the survivor to release a balloon which is then grabbed at a fairly low altitude with a lot of noise and vulnerability. Our solution comes in at altitudes up to 15,000ft above the survivor and is letting out 20,000ft of tether.
I spent a great deal of time down at Eglin with what remains of the Fulton cadre and although it's all about rescue, it's not the same model.
Did you look at the version we have that mounts to fighters?
I'm a retired AF Fighter Pilot and welcome anything that can get me out of there quickly. Having this system on a fighter does that.
czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html
Thanks
@Fk Gooogle why? Been there, done it. Well, 15,000 ft not 20,000.
Who's here from modern warfare/bf4
nothing modern to see here... move along now...James Bond Thunderball 1965 czcams.com/video/dekJ2Ip7koo/video.html the Fulton Skyhook of 1958
@@jerrydonnan8665 modern warfare is a video game so is bf4 :/ czcams.com/video/hAi6EcyYs48/video.html
@@jerrydonnan8665 r/oldpeopleyoutube
@@@go0se706 you think I don't know that??
@@jerrydonnan8665 you didnt
This is nice
Wonder about the Patent?
patents.google.com/patent/US10960976B2/en?oq=10%2c960%2c976
You gunna extract him too?
He's coming too ?. Roger That.
Just play the bf4 theme when it gets picked up
Soviets: “Привет! Помогите мне спуститься отсюда-“ AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Would fulton or RAES be faster?
RAES is much faster. Fulton requires the rescue package to be delivered to the survivor who then has to deploy a balloon. RAES is delivered to the survivor by another fighter. Look at this video of a deployable concept. czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html
@@benbosma Thanks alot for the insight, just happened to be curious.
YOU wanna be Skippy? WHO wanna be Skippy?
They should invest in wormhole tech
have to pick Park or Lazar
If you pick neither, you get a cool calling card.
Can I borrow this for my bachelor party? Planning on taking a bunch of mushrooms first.
whats wrong with skyhook?
Skyhook can’t do this. czcams.com/video/zxE8qU3Xh-M/video.html
The amount of metal gear comments here. I Love it lol
BF4 anyone?
No only mgs
@@sterlingarcher8072
mgsV?
But the BF4 Skyhook scene is just epic. I think everyone who played BF4 remembers the scene.
When you guys are ready for a human tester, I volunteer as tribute.
Then you show up and you're 430 lbs haha
How does he land?
Did you see the whole video?
@@benbosma yes but wouldn't that tear the body apart? Just asking, not making a claim.
@@jamesmecs7627 Not if the survivor lands in a safe area -- in fact, the maximum G's are less than with the Fulton! No, there's nothing wrong with the landing -- the only real problem with this system is the rescue plane's vulnerability to enemy fire during this whole process!
@@jamesmecs7627 He parachutes down after bringing him away from the threat. 1.8gs when the parachute opened. How is that going to tear him apart?
on head
this is what batman used in the kidnapping scene
Extraction failed boss
boss...
Hope skippy survived his wounds
The Fulton recovery was a lot faster
Fulton required the survivor to have a balloon, harness and gear that took 4 hrs to deliver to him and then he had to deploy the balloon and wait for a C-130 to come over at 3-400 feet to snag him.
This was a test, hence the name test in the title.
The actual system deploys from a fast mover.
czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html
@@benbosma that's good if the person has the ability to do all the tasks involved. Broken arm or even dislocated joints are going to make even that next to impossible without another person
@@michaeledlin9995 the deployed system requires him to hook one clip to his harness. I’m a fighter pilot. Trust me, I’ll take a single connection over a Fulton balloon anytime especially in a contested environment.
@@benbosma appreciate
Fulton recovery cofirmed on board helicopter,the soldier is coming to mother base boss
In what way does this resemble the Fulton?
That wouldn't happen to be in Middletown,Ohio?
Yep
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What was rapid about this?
This was a test hence the name test. The actual deployed system under development can rescue a pilot less than 2 minutes after an ejection.
czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html
Look at the timer in the corner after the pilot ejects
“Is it because you drink scotch?”
So... what's the advantage of this over the old Fulton Star system (famously featured in the ending of Thunderball: czcams.com/video/dxkUL8GoPQo/video.html )? On the contrary, I see some disadvantages -- this system is more difficult to use, because the pilot must maintain a constant-radius turn the whole time while the secret agent is attaching the line, and then transition into an ascending spiral turn of the same radius with a VERY carefully controlled climb rate while taking out the slack (and any kind of mistake can be catastrophic) -- and needless to say, this makes the plane highly vulnerable to ground fire during the entire time, so this can ONLY work if ALL air defenses are suppressed!
nowadays, you d send a large uav quadcopter with an anchoring point and a sling
This is probably better (easier, less time pressure) for search and rescue situations. Agreed it looks less ideal for combat operations.
Update: I've been told that this is easier on the person being rescued than the Fulton Star system (less G-force, no spinning or tumbling), and if true, this would make it a better option for bringing out wounded personnel (if a chopper is not an option) -- however, it still requires air defenses (if any) to be suppressed, if not then the Fulton is the only option left!
We are currently developing this system for several platforms including jets, rotorcraft and unmanned platforms. The Fulton Recovery System had a lot of hardware including a large package that the survivor had to unload, deploy a balloon with a cable. It had a 500ft steel cable that went up on a balloon and was snagged by a specially equipped C-130. There were three cable cuts before the survivor was brought aboard, safely and several human subjects died testing the system. A C-130 is far more vulnerable in this environment than a jet especially if the rest of the flight is providing cover.
I made a video of a notional rescue system here: czcams.com/video/6tYKNAf0cSw/video.html that shows how a formation of A-10s would use a rescue system based on RAES® would be used. I never flew the A-10 although I have over 3000hrs single-pilot fighters myself. I considered other systems to rescue pilots in contested environments and we think we can get someone rescued in less than 2 minutes from the time they eject. Sooner, if we have an unmanned platform on scene.
I'm on the ground in this video taking the closeup shots with my cellphone. Occasionally, you'll hear my voice. I'm identified as the "engineer" although I'm also one of the test pilots.
@@benbosma The main disadvantage of this system is that the rescuing aircraft must orbit the survivor continuously while he/she is getting ready for extraction (unlike with the Fulton, where it could drop the hardware, leave the area and then come back when the survivor is ready), which makes it highly vulnerable -- however, 2 minutes shouldn't be too bad! (However, you should keep in mind that extraction time is always far longer in real life than in tests -- in real life the survivor will most likely be dazed, disoriented, almost certainly pinned down by enemy fire, probably bleeding like a slaughtered pig, and as like as not would have sprains and/or broken bones -- so it won't be just a matter of quickly putting on the harness, clipping on the line and away we go, but more likely a matter of crawling to the equipment pod inch-by-inch with enemy bullets whistling all around, and then putting on the harness one-handed with just the weak hand (the strong hand having been broken at the wrist during ejection) while half-blinded by your own blood in your eyes -- which would take MUCH longer than 2 minutes!)
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incredible he can climb 2500 ft/min and only feel 1.4g's
Why is that incredible? G’s have nothing to do with velocity. G-force is a measure of acceleration.
...rapid?
WOW! You reinvented the Fulton Surface to AIr Recovery System! This will surely fill the gap, until some one can invent a rotary wing craft, maybe they can call it a helicopter. And install an external winch, so the don't have to land. And make it air refuelable. But until someone can invent the HH-53, this will fill the gap, BZ!
How does this remotely resemble Fulton?
@@benbosma If your operating concept is fixed wing extraction , I would say it is pretty close- of course you DON'T get them into the aircraft.
@@Ironbar61 Fixed wing extraction is a broad category. I'm very familiar with Fulton which is a straight line rescue at 500ft with a C-130 at minimum speed. We are doing the same job with tethers up to 3 miles long outside of small arms and with platforms that are faster, stealthier and over the target area when it's time to rescue.
Long line loiter is not new to the Air Force or aviation. Doing it from fighters at the front of the strike package is very new.
Fulton was retired in 1997. We only had a handful of Combat Talon aircraft and crews qualified to perform this mission.
RAES is designed to go where the fight is. Of my 6800 hrs flying half of which were in front line fighters we never had a way to rescue someone within 5 minutes of a bailout. This system is designed to fill that gap.
Thanks for your input.
@@benbosma Good luck with the system, but just a question , how often do you anticipate losing a strike fighter in an environment where small arms are the only threat? And those are some impressive totals , I only managed a shade over 6400, but 5000 of those were in Combat Talon I's (1st and 8th SOS). Combat recovery is a very problematic sphere of operations; we've grown into a belief system that it's nearly immoral to put aircrews into environments where we can't recover them , (hence the reluctant embrace of of UCAV's). Impress me ? how about a RPV capable of a one man pick up.
@@Ironbar61 We're currently under contract with the usual suspects to develop a single person, rapid aircrew recovery system that is pylon mounted and organic to the gorilla when it goes in.
Stay tuned. I was at Hurlburt a couple of months ago and got briefed by your mates so I could get up to speed on the Fulton. We have also been working with what's left of the Robert Fulton Company so we don't reinvent stuff like winches.
Thanks for your service. Your input is indeed appreciated.
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If only it didn’t cost 300 gmp every time
Now PUBG is adding this feature
Don't worry, it's combat proven.
seams dangerous for the aircraft
Skyhook
Skyhook at home…
Only 40 pounds????
40lbs was the weight we used to lower the tether to the ground. The lift was 185lbs with a 10:1 safety margin.
@@benbosma Thanks
I wonder if people move heroin this way
they did, but i believe more using farm biplane or chopper
While complex, slow and unusable as that was illustrated anyway.