👨⚕️ Dr. Robert Sapolsky on Faith 👼🏻 👨🏫
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- Sapolsky explains how faith operates in the human brain gives definition to it from a standpoint of evolutionary psychology.
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he's one of the greatest intellect in modern times
me
the expression is an opinion
He's the greatest soy boy of modern times.
@@mikereed9963 SOYEST BOY
@UCZ1sX9B5uuRsGfC19Ru0aWg You're a moron who doesn't even know what "soy boy" means.
This is the price of the enlightenment.
Was für ein großartiger Vortrag. Hier versteht jemand komplexe Zusammenhänge, hat ein enormes Wissen und kann das alles auf eine Weise verständlich darstellen, dass es ein Genuss ist!
This man is a genius and incredibly humble
"How can all of that be cultivated?" Hold the tension of the opposites until the point of each is understood and there's awareness on our personal behavior, not so that we can disassociate into acting on paradox but so that we can transcend the suffering and drop that warring identity in ourselves.
"You cannot get through a single day without having an impact on the world around you. What you do makes a difference, and you have to decide what kind of difference you want to make." -Jane Goodall
pretty sure a gorilla cured her of that fancy. or was it, poachers?
@@planetprince67 you’re confusing her with Dian Fossey. Jane Goodall worked with chimps.
Solid attempt to cope with the reality of the situation i must say.
You did not build that Barack Obama speech.
Thank you for this quote, which I am mining for my collection.
It's always a pleasure listening to you.
I adore this man. So true.
Astoundingly eloquent
He always is. I have lots of good Sap videos on the channel. Like and subscribe for more!
"Man is just an animal who can think. Which makes him all the more dangerous when he thinks he is not an animal."
Upon reading the title of this excerpt, I expected to find Dr. Sapolsky making at least some statements regarding faith. He makes some statements regarding the capacity to frame a paradoxical imperative in theological terms, but he never touches upon faith.
Just because it slipped out of his hands does not mean he didn't catch it.
This dude is a gem to our species!
Indeed sir.
Speak for yourself. Also please specify what species you are.
@@pawelpap9 Bos taurus
@@philkariuki1109Moo aussi!
I love him!
Daphne V But you would never fuck him. That's for Chad.
I see faith as an emotional state that facilitates belief (in the supernatural).
Probably so. In fearful states we seek intervention and solace. It's most likely an evolutionary pain control mechanism. I'm still seeking God despite lacking faith, but I think that finding the meaning and source of creation is a worthwhile endeavor.
@@travisn346 Why should you assume that there was a creator?
@@vids595 I don't assume there is one, but I don't assume there isn't one either. I simply don't know.
Hucifer the equation is a metaphor. It is food for thought.
You can't build bridges with metaphors...
Although this excerpt is rich with notions worth mulling over it is an excerpt, and one that I believe one might better grasped listening to the fuller context of what the good doctor believes.
Try listening to the whole speech and/or several of his topics on CZcams to paint a clearer picture. This came from an address about the uniqueness of humans
There are ideas I cling to such as faith and some free will for humankind
which I believe the dr falls on the opposite side of. However, at the end of the day if we both can acknowledge that the betterment of this planet rests on the acts such as this nun presents, he and I have unity and the rest we can agree to disagree on.
fascinating
Rofl! "Well I think for starters, we should give tubercular meat to all of the aggressive males in this planet" 3:54
Professor soy boy is a psychopath.
You get a whopping double portion.
Delaepicentru Toxic masculinity is a byproduct of abusive political systems for ages. The toxicity in these days is advertised by capitalism and more sexual fragility of insecurite men amid more materialism than belonging.
As seen in the "soy boy" mentality of the sad soul above and probably very near you too.
Is against human development as species over money and a sense of entitlement unrelated to dysmorphism in how a human male should be in a progressive aspect of better conditions to everyone.
Under the Saturn's shadow from James Holis is about this topic.
@@mikereed9963 What does soy boy mean to you?
Perhaps. But there are still females who need the same diet too. Maybe for things other than out and out aggression.
Sapolsky is awesome though.
“The less forgivable the act, the more it must be forgiven. The less
lovable the person is, the more you must find the means to love them.”
1:40 "The more something cannot be the more we have to make sure it is."
Sapolsky is the KING. 🤘
i feel like this guy can be my .best friend lol
He's got enough problems without being your friend. Soy boy.
I totally get what you mean.
Is that because you don't find him friendly?
He would probably have an evolutionary reason as to why you think like that and assume too much.
He's just sooo chill
Faith is an intractable container for the unknown, (perhaps the unknowable). The danger is in the swap of knowns for unknowns or vice versa. Science and religion will always be at odds. That's the point; the process *is* the purpose. (Breakfast special today: regressive Zen, over easy. We're out of Wheaties.)
Lol 😂😂😂
Doubt is the beginning of wisdom.
Faith feeds ignorance.
It could be that the impossible (in the sense of an infinite demand, a demand to always further transcend our own limitations) is at the core of the ethical. Derrida's suggested such a thought in his analysis of the gift, forgiveness, hospitality etc. This, however, does not need to be grounded in a religious belief.
Where can I find that quote from Kierkegaard?
Nice.
At 4:14... I saw that possibility and have made that very same joke thanks to those discoveries of what you're playing off of...
The application to Anthropologie in regards to Divergence in our forms is substantial...
What a happy accident that Discovery was. Sorry about the prior loss of the research that was actually being done at the time.
Yea he's awesome. I thought along the same lines as well on many of his observations.
Hucifer great minds think alike.
“it’s kind of strange if a scientist comes to believe that there are no scientists” (Josh Rasmussen)
Sorry I don't remember who said these quotes but they seem appropriate:
"If there is a God, what we think about that God* is so very irrelevant."
* "Man creates God in his own image and likeness."
which implies that humility is our only hope for genuine Revelation.
Here is prayer: "I give you my thoughts; I would have none of mine. In place of them give me Your own that I may do Your will... this partial quote is from "A Course in Miracles."
Google: "A Course in Miracles; how it was written" if you want to hear a remarkable story about an Atheist, born Jewish, Professor who taught Abnormal Psychology at Columbia University who heard a voice saying, "This is a A Course in Miracles; please take notes."
As a scientist she studied this phenomena and never messed with the data, but even after 1200 pages she never gave up her claim to be an Atheist. I love a good miracle story --- and I love Professor Sapolsky's devotion to the truth about this world.
prof findings are hierarchy is bad, instead bad hierarchy, a hierarchy with morals and belief set is always healthy and coordinating.
Fear rules human behavior
I believe that physicists can hold two contradictory things in the mind at once. Whatever. We can so do this. It is one of our best items.
Hahaha!!! I agree! Tubercular meat: it's good for what ails ya.
I have been watching his lectures recently. He has a passion for things like biology and ethology, and he has a blind spot when it comes to philosophy. Just because someone is very smart in one way does not mean they are smart in every other way. Atheism itself requires faith. I think he is mostly not particularly interested with subjects like religion, ethics, and philosophy, so he isn't developed in those areas. When it comes to science he's helped me learn a lot though!
Atheism requires as much faith as baldness requires hair. Could it be he is far too intelligent for you and it is going over your head? He is interested in these subjects because his specializations lend insight into the biological connections to those subjects. Which you seem to not understand there is. So let me get this straight. You are studying evolutionary biology and you have a problem with Atheism? Woah bro, you have A LOT to reconcile. Good luck with that one. There are no gods in reality and these studies defeat any reason for them.
This guy makes sense!
WRONG! Atheism does not require faith... atheism is not a position or a claim, it is simply a LACK OF BELIEF in a god... atheism does NOT claim that no god exists... atheists are just not convinced that a god exists due to the overwhelming lack of evidence for one...
Philosophy, on the other hand, is a way of thinking about the world, the universe, and society. It works by asking very basic questions about the nature of human thought, the nature of the universe, and the connections between them. The ideas in philosophy are often general and abstract. So when you say he has a blind spot when ut comes to philosophy, that doesnt make sense.
Philosophy is a matter of personal interpretations, philosophical stances are not absolutes, and as a study it doesnt deal with absolute facts, as do biology and other sciences. One cannot disput scientific facts, they are constant, however, scientific facts can also be revised in light of new discoveries.
Someone that can reconcile science and religion for practical applications based on behaviorism and evolutionary theory is Jordan Peterson. Also... we don't know what Mr. Sapolsky means by his brand of atheism. He might be closer to agnostic if he's still spiritual.
@@TheHAM1980 You are mistaken. Please look up definitions in a dictionary. Particularly agnosticism.
4:05 Why have the aggressive men dine alone? Invite all the mean-spirited ladies, who wreak their own kind of havoc, to join them.
Trent Michael Bingo.
The funny thing is that he's a cultural christian, his worldview has been shaped by our western societal standards that have come from christianity.
@@senselessnothing which western societal standards 'came from' or are exclusive to christianity, and not the other way around? whose christianity?
I don't agree with the death penalty but you can love someone all you want if they are guilty and behind bars. If someone who's gotten off Scott free and gets deliberately run over and killed that's something different
These guys give a listener a hard chans to understand before they show there real stripes, thanks
He is really smart, but I don't agree with some of his conclusions. In fact, what did he conclude? He didn't give a reason why she should not do her ministry. That's what it is to her, a ministry. Why should these men not be treated with kindness by her? Is there a reason? I wouldn't do it. I don't fully know why she feels the need. But I don't have to know. I'm not her. In fact, I just watched a show that says inmates who have contact with people who care for them are less likely to attack other inmates and officers. So, statistically, it is value added.
Maybe that is a part of evolutionary psychology we do not understand. The group dynamic. Some people go outside the box, but it keeps things in check. See? There's a place for the people who are (what some people view as) eccentric. As long as she isn't breaking the law, why is it even an issue? I don't think kindness is wasted if the person who is being kind gets something out of it. And if the receiver as well. Who are we to say a person can't be kind? It sounds like he is suggesting she is irrational. That's just an opinion about her. You can't say she is irrational without proper mental health screening. Obviously she doesn't think like him. And that's okay. It doesn't make her less of a person. I'd love to ask him about this, but it will never happen. He might tell me I'm unbalanced. That's okay. I could handle it.
Do you understand how many laws there are? You break them every day. Breaking the law is part of living. If we didn't break laws nothing would function in the world. Quit playing stupid.
Michael Jourdan I try not to break the law. It doesn't fell like there are so many laws I cannot avoid breaking them. Sometimes I go over the speed limit. That probably counts. It feels like laws are there to protect me and others. What laws should I start breaking? Nobody schooled me in this.Perhaps my parents were remiss.
I think you're right on track here, sunlitweb. Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr., for example, broke specific laws in order to get them changed into better laws to fit the needs of those being neglected and endangered the most. It's not that they're against laws, it's just that obeying laws isn't always enough. As cultures change, laws will need to change to preserve a livable environment, and it takes a special sort of kind-hearted, self-controlled persona to catalyze necessary changes. It would be darn near impossible to love effectively without discipline being a part of the love act itself. I mean, they're in prison for good reasons, and once they're under the law (jailed for others' safety), then this situation allows kind people to enter the picture and do their work more effectively. Often just the mere recognition that your life or your behavior has meaning for someone else creates a positive change the person couldn't produce within themselves alone.
multuminparvo5 I like what you said. MLK and Ghandi are heroes and had to break the law in a peaceful way to do good for others. I like what you said about this concept of breaking the law out of love for others in a peaceful way. If you are willing to take the punishment because you care so much that has value.
As for the nun, she wasn't breaking any law. She may have affronted some because of her faith. I think her paradigm was that love isn't just for the worthy, but the unworthy too. That goes against our normal way of thinking. But it is the basis of charity. We can't say only good people can get food at a food bank. Or only good people can get free mental health counseling on a crisis line. Which, by the way I am qualified to work on, but I would be paid, so it's not without benefit to me. Charity is supposed to be for all. Even the unlovable. And I personally think people who give to the unlovable with no particular return do something that takes a lot of courage.
check on what ghandi's reaction was when he was diagnosed with the same disease that killed his wife.
So, in part and in other words, irrational faith is irrational. And that irrationality can have an impact. And some people interpret that as wisdom.
There's so much bass all I hear is buzzing
A questioner at the end asks, how can all this (compassion and forgiveness for heinous criminals, and the moral imperative to strive for the good in the face of overwhelming forces) be cultivated?
I tend to cycle between making efforts for good, apathy and cynicism. However, dropping hate for the criminal (but maybe not the fear, and not the crime) became easy when it became clear that we cannot help what we do at a particular time, that our choices at that time were inevitable, that free will is an illusion.
Both Robert Sapolsky and Sam Harris have eloquently addressed free will in videos on CZcams, which should be easy to find for anyone interested in this profound issue. In addition, here are some thoughts on the making of choices that might be helpful:
Our bodies and minds are constantly being conditioned in every moment and in every way since conception. “Conditioned” here means the effect of any and every interaction during one’s life, whether consciously received or not. For example, all interactions with others and with our own thoughts; illnesses, changes of addresses, diet, climate, religions, political landscape, solar storms, cosmic rays, whatever. Nothing known or unknown is excluded.
Our genetic inheritance and the many epigenetic and other effects of environment ceaselessly affect us right up to, regarding the making of any choice, the very moment of becoming conscious of our decision/action. The conditioning shapes our values as well as our intellectual, esthetic and physical aptitudes, which determine which choices we are drawn to. How could we then step out of our conditioning to act independently, we being an inseparable part of the universe, embedded in it? Where would the wiggle-room be? Where and when could the opportunity to act independently and autonomously arise?
beautifully put!
how is it cultivated,they use markiting,just like maddison av.does.
how is what cultivated?
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The emojies on title tho
I'm sorry I ate some tainted meat. XD
@@0xHannibal haha xD
Inspirational irrational quotes really tickle their tingles. They were trained to appreciate these sorts of things. They were confused by something illogical that worked, i.e. jesus, sun tzu, etc. However if it doesn't work it doesn't work. Some things you cannot "fake it until you make it"
I asked my father why he allows my sister to abuse him emotionally and physically. He told me, it will all be worth it when he gets to heaven.
Bahahahaahahahahaahah
If u translate "him going to heaven" to "her or her kids gonna have healthier descendants" he's maybe not that wrong at all (which sickens me)
Why is there a God?
or it could be a heavily spiritual one that relieves them from ever having to reincarnate in this horrible world we've created. what do you really know? nothing, but we can make shit up forever, our one gift.. and all we do is take advantage of it. those who put their creativity into achieving higher states of consciousness do a whole lot less damage then he who is consuming the rain forest for cheap tables. or he who enslaves women for sex trafficking. you're right we do choose our purpose
Faith is the most dangerous concept in all of humanity.
Keith X why ?
Revolver Abady because it’s allowing yourself to believe whatever a person wants rather than what comports to reality. What’s true should always be more important than what’s comfortable
Keith X that's called being naive that's not faith
Give me an example of something that can't be believed based on faith? Are you saying when you take something on faith you can't be in a naive position there?
Keith X 1st Absolutely nothing but I don't see why that would be an argument and no.
Tubercular meat: interesting way of cleansing the portion of society you don't particularly like 😅
Great antidote to the wellness industry and pap crap psychology of Peterson
oh, the imposition of the "clean your room"!
like Bernadette once said about Thor: "you don't know his life!!!"
if not antidote, is a different perspective.
I love it when smart people think they can become philosophers and/or theologians without any formal background in either.
Yea because being a theologian takes any kind of formal background.
@@0xHannibal in fact, it does
@@JCDisciple formal in what? Mythology?
@@0xHannibal glad you're having fun
@@JCDisciple No seriously. If you are an expert in math you can be verified by peer review and there is an entire lexicon of proof for math. What does your theology have? Stories? Second-hand hearsay? Its garbage. Fables. Everyone knows it except brainwashed "true believers".
I think what that woman said actually makes a lots of sense. Worse the person is, more love, care and "work on themselves" and help from others they need in order to become a "better" human. Mr. Sapolsky also claims we are too small to make a difference. So when the woman wants to help the "bad people" it will not make any change. On the other hand when the "bad people" decided to do bad things to other people (so they ended up in a jail) and made some change by their action it's moving him and he doesn't think we should help them. I think in contrary, what he is claiming is pretty irrational. Anyway I like his lectures.
In terms of opportunity cost it’s highly irrational. If you have the time and will to help people, it simply makes more sense to help people who actually can benefit from said help. Serial killers and murderers are going to be beyond saving in many cases, so it’s more logical to help people who are suffering, low income, homeless, starving etc... simply because helping people like this there’s a much higher chance of them being able to benefit and rejoin society. So by helping people on death row, the effort is wasted because there is no net benefit to society. In many cases, some people are simply addicted to the act of altruism itself, as psychologically helping people releases a cocktail of feel-good neurotransmitters, and an egotistical view of oneself being a better person. While this isn’t always the case, knowing this should be evidence enough alone that if you’re going to help people, you should perform whatever action benefits the most people and society in the greatest amount for a given unit of time. This technique is actually known as effective altruism, which aims to provide the most benefit to the most number of people for the lowest cost. In that manner, effective altruism presents a compelling case for doing the opposite to be arguably unethical, because it’s essentially selfish to do so to a certain point. By helping a death row inmates, you are essentially depriving others from assistance who would stand to benefit humanity as whole to a much greater degree.
The bridge is the path of least resistance. I choose the stairway.
Ah I see. So you think you are going "above" everyone else by pretending that you have some sort of magical knowledge that science can not understand? Can you show me what cures you have came up with or what kind of tech, or great advancement your way of thinking has done for human primate mammals?
Hucifer , I dedicated my life to a medical profession. I cared for the cancer patients. It is a high tech as well as a spiritual environment. I couldn't do it by myself. Only with God's help for 30 years. That is my contribution. I love science and I love God. I am a big fan of Dr. Sapolsky and his work.
"I dedicated my life to a medical profession. I cared for the cancer patients. It is a high tech as well as a spiritual environment."
Shall we unpack that a second. Firstly, that is very noble of you to dedicate your life to medicine. This want to help others is great however that slip of tech and spiritual are at odds with each other. We can use tech to simulate spiritual in the mind but not vice versa.
I am sorry you think as little of yourself that you do not give yourself the credit and feel scared you must give it away to some celestial sky daddy. If you love science then emancipate yourself from the mind forged manacles that bind your objective reasoning and critical thinking.
Hucifer, l hope we can agree to disagree.
Over and out.
"I,m going to Wichita " to quote the great Jack White"
He lost me where he suggested a genocide as a way to right the percieved wrongs.
Well if u wanna end suffering, u have to destroy those who create suffering. End of story.
Explain more, where exactly he said that?
@@zamolxezamolxe8131 i suppose you haven’t read or agree with crime and punishment?
...somehow it happened.
The nun recognized that the very worst (like the rest of us) are completely the product of their genes and environment and hence has no free will and therefore no responsibility, but she does not apply this standard to herself.
''The more unlovable someone is the more we must find the means to love them.'' Does it have have to be love? #Metoo. i was sexually harassed
October
17, 2014. Now my Facebook was hacked. And my Google Play Store app was hacked on my phone. Needless to say i'm more than a little miffed off. i feel victimized. i'm straight. i'm attracted
to women i have a wife
in Japan. i married a Filipina who has been in Japan for 30 years. i've been in Japan. for 18 years.. He's well... kind of naturally both. And he hit on me. After i said 'No, stop. i'm not interested in you that way. ' He continued to hit on
me. After he sent a link to a strap on. i said that this was sexual harassement. He understood this was unwanted behavior. He was a married she at the time. i don't know if he's still married. i am though. He's been making life miserable for me by hacking my phone and my tablet. . i've been to the local police box （Koban） i live in Japan with my wife and 3 small dogs two are toothless and 1 was rescued the day she
was scheduled for the euthanasia gas chamber. i stay home and take care of them. and make sure they've been fed. He needs to stop this.
So isn't Kierkegaard the same or similar thing as cognitive dissonance?
Cognitive dissonance is near the beginning of Kiekegaard’s syllogisms - he has a famous book about it called “Fear and Trembling.” Remembering that cognitive dissonance is a psychological experience, not a logical argument, is important. The most basic example of it in Kierkegaard is being scared while you are on a bridge not because the bridge is a threat to you, but because you know deep down that you have the freedom to throw yourself off the bridge if you choose, and this conflicts with your desire for self-preservation.
The question is, beyond what is observable about the sensation or comfortable or uncomfortable about it, what does the information in the experience of this anxiety (that there are facts about our own freedom that we are unaware of most of the time) tell us about who we really are? And he extends this to a lot of things, among them a pretty radical redefinition of what we ought to expect from God and religion.
Kierkegaard isn’t one of those philosophers who cares if you are happy or what a doctor would say is “healthy” or “toxic.” He cares about what he thinks is true and he reasons about it very well.
But yeah if Kierkegaard has been more contemporaneous with modern psychology he might have argued that all people, regardless of their beliefs, live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance - either comfortably or uncomfortably (usually more comfortably when they are young and less comfortably when they are old).
Professional speaker, entertaining and engaging.
But what’s genius? Mind full of fragments of philosophical teachings intertwined into evolution theory and behaviorism. What’s new?
Nothing but counter intuitiveness
@@mark1952able Slay, my friend, slay.
Read about Descartes's meeting with an angel in his dreams that changed the course of his life and of modern thought.
Then think again about whether God does not exist!
I dance with the devil every single fuckin night in my dreams. He is quite sociable fella.
LOVE VIOLENCE AND WAR.
Faith enables humanity to do horrible things but with good intentions. Aka, against nature which goes in balance. Religion,politics, or business for example..
Faith is trust without evidence.
By the way, Robert Sapolsky calls himself a 'strident athiest' (but not a bigoted one evidently).
help tjere was a comet in detroit mamammma
hahaha. yea i kinda like ya. i like george carlin to. haha. have fun gare
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
The answer to your question is an equation...love over reason ie. God over Satan. Love has already won.
Linda Verden which equation? *
@@0xHannibal inequation ig lol
Oh you mean like genocide, rape, slavery, war, murder, torture, incest, eternal damnation, and the like?
Religious or not that's one smart homeless man haha just kidding, he really is awesome though. If pay for collage just to take his classes
Believe in gaps😅 trust us to get things wrong?
This isn't the era of Greece so he won't be remembered
1Co 2:5
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
But what if there is no God?
That a platitude sounds catchy or pleasant to the ear/mind when posted, bares no relation to whether it's true. I'm willing to wager you don't have any rational reason for believing that. It's a borderline retarded form of debate tactic:
Scientist: "This is true because cause-A results in effect-A." *provides evidence that can be replicated*
Man of God: "Cause-A cannot result in effect-A because this book says not to believe people, regardless of demonstrable and replicable evidence." *points to passage in book*
Scientist: "How do you know the book is right?"
Man of God: "Look here *points to passage in book*. The book is true because the book says its true."
Scientist: "But if the book isn't true, then the line about it being true isn't true. How do you know the book is genuine?"
Man of God: "It's genuine because it's the word of God and God is infallible."
Scientist: "How do you know that God is infallible?"
Man of God: "Because look here *points to passage*. The book says God is infallible."
Scientist: "So, the book is true because God is true and God is true because the book is true?"
Man of God: "Yeah! Now you're getting it!" : )
Scientist: "Jesus Christ..." : |
Man of God: "Yeah, you got it! Praise Jesus, brother!" : D
I wish I could see him and Jordan Peterson have dialogue.
That will not happen apparently Mr Peterson has brain damage now.
why would you want to waste this guy's time with jordan peterson? 😂
Although I respect Sopalsky and enjoy his work, I feel that he has failed to observe certain aspects of evolution, concerning religion. He says the woman is crazy for having such deep empathy for murderers, and cannot expound on the reason why. It is implied that murderers should simply be exterminated, as he also implied that aggressive males should be exterminated. There is no detailed explanation as to why we should believe that aggressiveness is not a healthy and natural genetic evolution, but it is implied, and I understand why, that passive males make for a better community.How idealistic. I believe that the nun who has comprehended agapi love, and presses on with the practice of it, may be ahead in the evolutionary script. An educated perspective would surmise that the self sacrificial, disciplined, and endless love taught by Jesus would, if practiced successfully, by intellectual, and "evolved" beings, be the perfect roadmap for a peaceful existence. It is outlandish to presume that the less masculine in and of themselves be discerned to die, to make the existence of the species more peaceful. The ideology of faith and love can save us all of that unhealthy stress, but the uneducated, primitive beings are far from grasping it, meaning that they will cause pain to those who are peaceful, simple, and non-aggressive. The theology implies that sacrifice is necessary, and in the bible it is because sacrifice will lead to a better self or better personal existence or better afterlife, but scientifically it makes sense because ultimately we are all dust, and if you are going to make an intellectual statement it should concern consideration for more than just one aspect of understanding, not just biology.
But doesn't Sapolsky support epigenetic theory and clearly states the risk of genetics becoming the next eugenics in the secind/third (?) Zeitgeist film. He really warns against it to be honest.
good point
Didn't God flood the world?,
Sir Lucifer And there is the end game
Sapolsky isn't as smart as he thinks he is.
Its really funny when a person thinks he got it all figured out. If we think that we decide how everything to be around and inside of us, why we cant decide, you know what, from now on I want only good thoughts in my brain. An atheist only can teach you theres no God and too much useless information that why do you need actually, if it doesnt matter anyway. I choose to believe in God and christianity, not only because it teaches why things are the way they are, but also how to be humble and live a good life
you acknowledge that you can choose. you cant have free will in a material universe. Therefore you have an immaterial soul. No immaterial soul without God
@@jerkojovic I agree
Glad I'm not the Professor then, knowingly feeding out death is about as aggressive as it gets?
Of course he was flippant.
But a "Faith" in kindness to de-humanized animals is a fairly good Thumb-rule for reducing a general climate of agression.
How can one have faith in something until that kindness is tested? That is suicidal.
Hucifer . Sounds like fierce agreement?
Fun fact: he uses christian-like morality to judge the situation
And there is his telos at the end. He was probably a small kid, horribly bullied from a very young age, couldn't excel in sports, etc... and his academic career is merely aimed at trying to find a way to get back at his aggressors. The way he is able to pull that particular sword out of its sheath with such ease suggests to me that his last statement is not a "joke". He really believes this at some level
There is nothing new to be found here with this fool. Just another jungian archetype. Recognize them when they appear
Accept. His numerous studies and accredited journal documents... For you to make that judgment off on one statement shows your capacity in why you cant understand the science.
"Jungian archetype" 😆😅🤣😂🤣😆😁😆😄🤣
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Talk about taking something completely out of context!
1Co 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
yes, this is a fantastic verse for those times you need to feel smug in the face of great intelligence.
Ha! Hardly a "strident atheist" when compared to others who claim that framework. I love Prof Sapolsky but he seems to suffer from that classic paradox of beta male namely that there needs to be "aggressive males" to preserve the peace so beta males can do do science and not be called to fight for themselves. That last statement is hardly funny if one considers that in the past people took that seriously and actually thought that to be the right decision. You live in a democracy Robert. Gotta accept the aggressive males. Not like Robert Sapolsky's are lining up at police academies or going the army.
You missed his point completely.
Jippy Blah No I did not
Joe Ruf I do find myself disagreeing with you. I have found that people are capable of great acts of kindness or cruelty. It's inevitable that people make bad decisions under bad conditions, but the level of human willpower is immeasurable, unquantifiable may be a more appropriate word here.
Travis Croy Sure. But can't we admit that even "good" decisions involve "aggression"? I'm not sure how you are using "immeasurable" either. Do you mean "it knows no limit" or that human will power can "conqueror evil"? In other words do you believe in a day when "willpower" will conqueror what history only too easily reveals namely the fallibility of human beings?
Joe Ruf All I hear is personal bias in your words. You're trying to box nature into your semantic box. When nature shows itself to us in everything that is. Nature is a being itself, not there for competition, that's just an idea. WE are ALL food in the long run buddy.
I don't agree with him. The point that our faith is build on things that "cannot be" is funny. Can I say that he see him self as a superior to the point that he thing that we have no logical evidences of the "our faith" ? Can I say that he build his own believes on things that "cannot be" to him ?
There is no such thing as a logical evidence for the existence of a personal God.
@@MrDzoni955 And you know that how? What makes you think god would want to follow your pitiful logic? Is it possible he created logic to constrain your thinking?
There is more to life than biology.
Like what?
Stupid comment.
Dejavaux coward
Oh look, another stupid comment, this time with no relevance whatsoever. Congratulations, you're an idiot. Bye.
Or that's what you want to believe lol
Even a bonafide genius like Sapolsky can be blinded by his atheism and miss the forest for the trees. "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." Matthew 5:44. Sapolsky calls this irrational, but on this example Christ was deified and made immortal in the hearts and minds of countless people. Evolution selected that humans be irresistibly drawn to this behavior for a reason, Sapolsky can't, or won't, see this.... A puzzling misfire in a brilliant mind.
Yea. That happened during the crusades. You are totally right.
@@0xHannibal It's quite the sidestep you are making as The Crusades happened more than 1,000 years after Christ. It's certainly how the Roman Empire became Christian 200 years after his death, just one of his many miracles.
Yes yes you are right. The dark ages wasn't Christian AT ALLLL... Lol. Bro. What history are you reading? Fantasy?
You seriously have some balls to pretend religion isn't violent. Like woooow.
Care to explain why the Nazi had a belt buckle that said "God's with us" on it?
it's too bad he uses his logic to knock religion. Frank Durkin
Why is that bad?
Do theist realize that theist apologetics is a dead craft and that their best and brightest apologist can never really win? No matter how many PhDs he has. Because the movement he starts to quote scripture and claims that magical events are possible. Right there the conversation should stop.
wow and he support apple , yey for slavery
google
Here he comes across somewhat less smug than usual.
bullshit...
Cesar Farinho prove your claim
i counted my two uncles ok dont know abiut rest of your family
Meh. Quiet shallow and inconsistent. Taking actions of individuals that are believers and saying it's an example for what religion is is rediculous. The amount of conspiracy theories that come (more like taking a ride) from very strongly proven scientific facts as quantum entanglement, LHC, binaural beats as a stimuli for specific brainwave activity and so on, is quite damn big (although conspiracy theories that go against science is probably more common). Yet it'd be rediculous to say that it comes to say something about science. So individuals, even if many, who take a ride over belief/faith of whatever it is to twist it however they feel right for them, would be in my opinion a rediculous approach to define how religious or spiritual belief systems work on the sociological level.
Shallow because he attempts to build all of his arguments on the axiom that a strive for extreme rationality belief system, on contrary with spiritual belief system (I don't argue that there are more graylines on spiritual belief systems though, I speak about the core ideas etc.), is the "right" way to walk in if you want to make the world and humanity happier. Another axiom is considering spirituality and intuitive decision making being necessarily a non legitimate way to come to any kind of conclusion and has no value when you come to measure what tools you have to come to conclusions and beliefs and facts about the world. I think it's quite biassed. Again, I'm not saying it IS a good tool per say, just that it can be when used right.
Just that something doesn't answer to the definition of science "it must be something that theoretically be disapproved", doesn't mean it has no place as a tool to trust. That's quite a patriarchal way of thinking and kind of rationality worship you could say.
Let God sort them out...................LOL
your definition of god is small
This man is comedian not a scientist. Wait 30 years and all what he said is going to be laughed at. Definitely can not be jewish, or his trying to ease his conscience by the gruesome things he did.
Chris Watt hahaha what? Please elaborate.
He is a scientist, but he is a biologist, and this is a four minute video outside his area of expertise. Chill out.
I love this guy, but perhaps he might be a little delusional with believing the evils of the world can be maintained without male aggression. The ape tribe he was studying completely dissolved after the aggressive males left to collect garbage. There was a brief period of peace as far as I understand. I generally don't like aggression at all my self but it seems too be necessary to defend a society. Just a theory.
I think the female praying mantis would have something different to say about that.
@@0xHannibal I'm sure all species would have different things to say.
Sapolsky claims to be a "strident atheist", yet still manages to use the term "evil" to describe another human being. And he misses the nun's point. Forgiveness is for the benefit of the forgiver, not the forgiven, just as loving is for the benefit of the lover, not the beloved. If you don't forgive, YOU will suffer.
"“Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Jesus Christ, as quoted in Matthew 7:1-2
+strewf thats not true. Forgiven will do something only for the forgiven. Justice will do something for the forgiver. No bible quotes, since this book is not the only one which speaks about it, there are tons of good books to quote on forgiveness, bypassing the Christian God paradigma altogether
Whether or not they bypass the christian paradigm is irrelevant, they stem from the severe cultural influence of christianity to a great extent.
Bad and evil has nothing to do with the existence of some deity. If u create great sufferring to others, by purpose, u r evil. What is so difficult to understand? No need for some gods.
If forgiveness is for the benefit of the forgiver, then the nun is selfish. She uses the criminals for her own benefit, for her own pleasure. Besides, what she has to forgive? Nothing, they didnt do anything to her. If she so forgiving, let them all rape her, then forgive them. On daily basis. Lol
Evil exists within the context of value system, and value systems can exist independently of a belief in god(s). Confucianism and Buddhism have value systems that do not require a belief in god(s) (no, the Buddha is not revered as a god, though he quite famously taught the gods of ancient India). Interestingly enough, the concept of evil does not exist in the Buddhist value system, though the concepts of ignorance and incompetence certainly do.
Dude needs to shave the beard.
Why?