Oldest Runic Inscriptions in the World??? (Thorsberg Moor)
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- In this video, Dr. Scott Shell visits the Thorsberg Moor in Germany and discusses the Thorsberg chape and the Thorsberg shield boss. The chape is the oldest runic inscription to mention the god Ullr. Is Ullr a Germanic god? The second inscription shows usage of runes in a magical context (protection from arrows).
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Outstanding information! Starting to go through your videos and am loving what I’m watching! Really glad you did the elves video with the Norse Magic and Beliefs channel. Keep up the amazing content.
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Fantastic. I listened to the birds singing following the teaching. The place seems peaceful and alluring. It's great to see the area hasn't been developed. Thanks for honoring the ancestors, and for sharing your knowledge of things sacred to us.
Definitely!! I love doing it, and I’m glad you’re getting a lot out of it!
So happy that I found your channel! On CZcams are only a few good videos especially about the Saxon tribes and such. Love and want to learn more about my roots and my homeland.
Lovely video of the moor! I wonder if the "hail" rune could be asking not for protection against the hail of arrows and spears, but for a hail of arrows and spears coming from the shield-holder's own side, against the foe.
Very interesting video - thank you for the runic interpretations. :)
Since you're mentioning the bracteates, I wonder if you've listened to Heilung's new song they dropped a few days ago. Here's a description of the lyrical meaning/content and the link.
"The lyrics for this piece are mainly taken from bracteates: golden, circular coins or amulets found in Northern Europe that date from the 4th to 7th centuries CE. They are often fitted with a decorated rim and loop, which indicates that they were meant to be worn and perhaps provide protection, fulfil wishes or for divination.
The bracteates feature a very significant iconography influenced by Roman coinage. They were predominantly made from Roman gold, which was given to the North Germanic peoples as peace money.
In Anoana, the listener has the chance to delve into a collection of likely encoded spells from the Migration Period and get a touch of magic from the Dark Ages.
The intention of the piece is to playfully reconnect to an incantational language of a period where the North was richer in gold than any other region. Our forefathers presumably enjoyed a time of great prosperity and it may make us rethink how dark these ages really were."
czcams.com/video/SVbc_Fwbt50/video.html
I haven't, but I'll check it out.
Coming from a Gothicist (rather than runological) background, to me this inscription ["ᛟᚹᛚᚦᚢᚦᛖᚹᚨᛉᚾᛁᚹᚨᛃᛖᛗᚨᚱᛁᛉ"] seemed to be saying one of two things. Either :
"𐍉 𐍅𐌿𐌻𐌸𐌰𐌿 𐌸𐌹𐍅𐌰𐌽𐍃 𐌽𐌹 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐌰𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰𐌹𐍃:" ('Ó wulþau þiwans ni waiamérjais' = 'Curse not - o glory - your servants!')
or [taking the ᛟ as a word in and of itself]
"𐍉𐌸𐌰𐌻 𐍅𐌿𐌻𐌸𐌰𐌿 𐌸𐌹𐍅𐌹𐍃 𐌽𐌹 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐌰𐌼𐌴𐍂𐌾𐌰𐌹𐍃:" ('Óþal wulþau þiwis ni waiamérjais' = 'Curse not - o glory - your servant's homeland!')
Do you find this interpretation plausible, Dr Shell?
Having a look through the Runar database the only instances I can see of 'o + [vocative]' being used is when the language is Latin, and this makes me lean towards the latter interpretation.
Some places are special across times and cultures.
I find the larger landscapes in archaeology so interesting. Way back then there may not have been cities, but to them maybe their interactions with the land was their city. I am not finding the right words today. Sorry. Hope y’all get it. If not no worries 😊
Scott, I've lots of questions. With respect to the language of the runes, is there enough to classify them linguistically? Could this be a PGmc attestation or something intermediary?
On the bog offerings, I'm trying to wrap my head around why things were intentionally broken. It seems counterintuitive to me to offer a broken item to the gods vs a fully functional item. Thoughts?
I would classify them under “Northwest Germanic.”
As far as breaking items, it’s because that is a way of saying “it is no longer useful in this world. To that end, it will be useful in the other world.” This is all over magical practices throughout the world.
Thank for your video. Just an FYI.... your Facebook link is no longer working
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