What IS Bone Broth?
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- Today, Josh and Nicole take a deep dive into the latest health food fad: bone broth!
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0:00 Intro
1:36 A Silly Question
2:08 The Vessel Always Matters
2:57 The Tea Plant
4:25 Is Broth Always Savory?
5:14 "Coffee Is For Boys, Tea Is For Girls"
6:40 What Is High Tea?
9:15 What The Hell Is Tea?
10:29 Defining Bone Broth
10:59 Rachael Ray Was My Surrogate Mother
12:14 When Bone Broth Hit Mainstream
14:47 $11 Bone Broth
17:21 Josh's Favorite Tea
19:42 Is Kombucha Tea?
21:39 The Carrot Conundrum
24:24 Josh's Disrespectful Tea Tradition
26:38 We Love Chai
27:43 Recap What We Learned
37:33 A Problem With Tony Cachere's?!
35:31 Canned Soup & Mashed Potatoes
37:33 A Problem With Tony Cachere's?!
39:19 Getting Sick Of Restaurants
42:59 You Need To Peel Hawaiian Rolls
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Coming from someone who has worked in tea shops and REALLY loves tea. Camelia Sinensis IS tea and the basis for most teas. But there are a few other plants from other parts of the world that are also called tea PLUS herbal infusions. Yerba Mate, Guayusa, and Roobios are all plants used as teas in their indigenous areas. In my opinion the difference between a tea and a stock is not only the time but the temperature. Tea actually requires a temperature lower than boiling, especially for white and green teas. Stocks require boiling or simmering. Thus, different things, flavor profile aside. Thank you for coming to my ted talk :p
Nice.
Why did they eat Pinoy / Spanish / Mexican food called Bulalo in the Boston Tea Party. I'm a Pinoy I know. You eat this with fried rice or white rice here in the Philippines. Was one of the chefs there a Mexican
What if, hypothetically (it may exist, but for the sake of argument), there was a plant that required boiling/simmering for a long period to infuse? Would we consider this tea?
I think the core concept for both tea and broth/stock is the same (i.e., product + water + time + heat). Though you could also argue that heat is not required.
For more clarity I think we'd want to clearly define tea before branching out. Though, as with most things, our categories aren't as simple and well-defined as they first appear.
*rooibos
What about something like Indian chai which is sometimes just simmering milk, black tea, and sugar? (I've had this in manufacturing plants and surrounding areas many times)
there's nothing like 2 people in front of 2 laptops asking a third person off-camera to google something.
The French language uses "tisane" to talk about infusions without Camellia Sinensis. There are plenty of ways to express misc. steeped vegetal matter without misrepresenting as tea.
Oh lol, I thought I was the first to bring up "tisane"!
If it is from the tea plant, it IS tea.
If it's not of the tea plant, it is A tea.
The geographical region is the "Ca-rib-ee-an"
The movie is "Care-ah-bee-an"
A square is a rectangle, not all rectangles are squares.
I like both tea and various steeped teas.
I think that’s a fair distinction.
6:35 The fancy tea service is afternoon (or cream) tea. High tea is basically dinner. Fish fingers and custard.
I would argue the difference is that you shouldn't/don't boil tea. Bring the water to a boil and then add the water to your leaves and let it steep for around 5 min. You don't boil tea. You boil broth.
I would argue if you are doing a Chinese medicinal tea or something like that you do bring to a boil for a few min.
Came here to say this. It's the difference between cooking and steeping.
I was taught to never let homemade broth come to a boil lol...but I think that might have to do with skimming the top?
@@revmailletwould that be a medicinal tea made from actual black/green tea? If not, if we're talking herbal tea, it's technically a tisane, which no one says, but you often boil them, depends on the best treatment of the plant. With catnip tea (ERASES bloating), you must brew it at 117F but I just boil water for most herbal teas (tisanes).
you boil chai
nicole saying josh doesnt respect tea is the only thing i will actually be taking away from this video i think
Yeah, Josh is really exemplifying the Dunning-Kruger effect here - sadly.
@@SiKedek how, exactly? He’s not claiming to think he’s an expert.
@@mikeymidnite7685 Well, it's the framing, and that's why most folks put qualifiers like "I believe that..." or "It's my personal opinion that..." before stating a claim. If they read it somewhere, it's good practice to state who made the initial claim and year of publication, if possible. (Being a former professional academic, for me this was necessary.)
The lack of qualified framing may be part of Josh's bit, but I don't find it endearing. That's all.
Mmmm...at tea time the tea is never weak, I know it depends on the generation, during the depression era, they had to reuse teabags.
@@mjg92 brother you are subscribed to ben shapiro i respect you less than josh respects tea
20:24 the song is called Sugar, for anyone interested, lol
came here to say this
Sugahhhhhhhh
Tisanes and infusions are what you do with herbs that aren't tea.
(infusions take longer.)
yup this!
So, since coffee beans are from a plant, is coffee a specific kind of tea? Since cocoa beans are from a plant, is hot chocolate a specific kind of tea?
I’ve been a barista for 11 years and I like to tell people I’m a bean tea slinger.
Having to wake up early on a Sunday morning was made more bearable today when Josh mentioned Sleep Token 🤘
It's an infusion.
You want a ritual to go by. Look to the Hobbits. 7AM Breakfast, 9AM second breakfast, 11AM Elevenses, 1pm Luncheon, 4pm Afternoon tea, 6PM dinner, 8PM supper.
I've done a month of hobbit meals, each day for less than $150 total food budget. it was decent, but eating 7 times a day is kinda obnoxious.
@@thactotum I often do the anti-hobbit diet. I often just eat once a day.
The banter here is what I come to this show for.
Oh, and I'm with Nicole: the vessel is everything!
Hi mythical Kitchen! Just wanted to say that if your tea has no tea leaf in it, it’s called an infusion. Camomile tea isn’t actually tea. It’s an infusion. Thanks!
The song is Sugar by SOAD and your rendition was beautiful, Josh.
Tea is added after water reaches desired temperature and removed from heat. Bone broth is not tea.
TEA, n.
1. The leaves of the tea-tree as dried and imported. There are several kinds of tea, as imperial tea, hyson and young hyson, called green teas; souchong and bohea, called black teas, &c.
3. Any infusion or decoction of vegetables; as sage tea; camomile tea, &c.
@@leviwhite3381 2
: an aromatic beverage prepared from tea leaves by soaking them in boiling water
Its called tisane when there is no tea leaves in it ? At least that's what we say in french...
Any herbal infusion is called tisane if it isn't actual tea leaves
en effet. Or infusion.
plus there is actual tea in mint tea (gunpower tea). That's the first thing to come up on wikipedia... come on guys do your research
@@BoogaKilnthere's no mint in gunpowder tea?! Gunpowder tea is green tea
It's 5am and I'm on the far end of sobriety and within 10 seconds of the video I sobered up
Must've been enlightenment cause sober lol rookies
😂
Go and sleep dude
Sure
Do you want us to clap?
Can't believe we got a sleep token reference on this podcast before GTA 6
Celestial Seasonings is made in Boulder, CO. The place is really cool! If you’re here, go do a free tour!
Josh telling the camera to look stuff up when he’s sitting in front a computer. 😂
So what I’m hearing is, vegetable soup is tea
Nope. Cooked too long, now it's soup. In the first 10 minutes or so, that's tea.
Unless there are actual tea leaves in it its a tisane.
Mate is another plant altogether which also happens to have caffeine
Have you guys ever tried Vegeta? It is a Croatian all purpose seasoning that makes everything taste better. Our Bosnian neighbors would use it and it is so good, especially on potatoes!
vegeta is croatian? that's good to know. my family uses it like veg stock powder/cube. it is really good
I truly thought she was gonna say “One day at band camp” 😂🤣😂🤣
I so enjoy these unhinged videos ... so entertaining ... keep them coming!!!
I’ve been trying to figure out what the flavor of Tony C’s reminded me of and when Josh said “seasoned salt” it was like a lightbulb moment, I forgot seasoned salt was a thing
Honest;y, the entirety of Mythical really helps me through my days, and I just want to say thank you for making me laugh, even when it's really difficult
Afternoon tea is typically served around 4 pm, while high tea tends to be served later in the afternoon (around 5- 7 pm)
What about coffee? If tea can be made without tea leaves, can coffee be made without coffee beans?
Lol, it can't. This issue has already been solved. Tisanes are steeped drinks made with plants other than tea.
Tea is a diffusion of any flower, bud or leaves of aromatic/tannic/ medicinal plants. Kombucha is the budding of a fungus in a diffusion with medicinal application.
In kerala (south indian state) we just boil loose leaf black tea in straight milk. so good. basically the base to which you can add masalas (if you like) but in kerala its usually just served with sugar. yum
But if tea is plants steeped in water, is coffee tea?
what brand of chai tea does nicole’s dad love??? we gotta know
The little sleep token name drop was so amazing ahaha
Josh during the ad read: all pint glasses are 16 oz.
Anyone in a pub outside the states: only if they are scamming you.
That is the fluid ounces of a pint
@@nanho5201 an Imperial pint is 20 imperial fluid ounces, which is how British / Irish beers are usually served. At least outside the USA.
Even in the US, a pint glass is going to be more like 500 ml. The Plimsoll line will be below the rim at the pint mark
@rossholditch8235 We don’t use Imperial pints.
@@vincedibona4687 day-to-day, of course. You use the metric system. But if you order “a pint” it’s going to be in a 568 mL glass. Not a 473 mL glass.
I worked at a bagel shop for like 3 years in college, that was almost ten years ago now, I can finally enjoy bagels again now.
✨RAY✨chel Ray. The inflection bunted my brain.
So good content!
High tea is the informal, evening meal of the working class. The fancy, party like tea that people mistakenly call, "high tea" is actually afternoon tea.
I don’t really drink tea, but I don’t think sweet is what makes it tea. I prefer black tea, iced, and specifically not sweet. so, I was rejecting your entire premise. But you brought me back with “Minutes in a Year.” 😂
Now I want some King’s Hawaiian rolls. 🤤🤤🤤
Not sure if this has been mentioned, a steeped drink, not made from the Tea plant, is called a Tisane, ones made from roots or bark are sometimes referred to as a Decoction...
I would say that a tea is an infusion of plant material prepared and consumed in a style and with a method comparable to the preparation and consumption of C. sinensis leaves. A broth is a much longer process involving the long simmering of meat, bones, and/or vegetables which is usually savoury and typically consumed as an ingredient in other dishes or in the manner of soup.
Another reason the love josh sleep token is the best we listen to it in the kitchen all the time (BOBS OKC)
I’m personally enjoying the slightly delirious interchange on this particular episode
Plants steeped in hot, not boiling, water is an infusion. Broth requires boiled, then simmering, water over an extended time to draw the benefits from the item being stewed.
Love your content 😊😊😊
Lol oh boy 5 am cant wait to question everything i thought i ever knew 😂
this is the first full episode i've listened to and yes
the people do think you are on shrooms while recording 🍄
Ambivalent on the broth/tea thing. What I need is the name of that chai brand!
Funny enough, in the past soda fountains in the US would serve "beef tea" which was essentially just a beef broth so the concept of bone broth being tea wouldn't have been controversial even 100 years ago. Even today they still make Bovril in the UK which is essentially just a concentrated beef paste meant to be dissolved in water to make beef tea.
11:14 Rachel Ray was on tv when i was home sick as a kid then there was an episode where they talked about kegels and stuff and made me super confused.
20:14 : The song is Sugar by System of a Down
Didn't have Sleep Token and John Mulaney references on my bingo card for this episode but here we are. Josh stays winning.
Welp. Josh just got me to listen to Sugar by SoaD for the first time in a few years. Thanks.
When I went to Peru, I had coca tea, brewed from the coca leaves. It tasted similar to green tea and wasn't any stronger than any average tea.
Espresso is coffee, that is a whole other show....Stay on task!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Coffee is soup. tea is soup.
Tea: made from a plant base of hurbs leaves, and flowers, and may be infused with fruit. Used for nurishment, medicine, or as a stimulant
Hurbs?
we have stock cubes which are dehydrated stocks which we drink regularly called oxo
I'd like to bring to the table Mushroom Tea. Fungi are not categorically plants, yet a liquid steeped with mushrooms can be a tea. There is also mushroom broth/mushroom gravy, but mushrooms aren't animals either. How far across the spectrum from flora to fauna does tea end and broth begin? Does it have anything to do with the material at all, or does it come down to the method?
23:40 Josh, they import water from Maine to make the ice rink because it's more accustomed to being ice
high tea, is around 5 afternoon, around dinner there's fruit served with small sandwiches and the tea is often something called, milk tea. milk tea is cream, sugar and tea, with the tea being black long leaf. it can also be green tea, like Macha which is often a powder, frequently presweetened with sugar or agave nectar as a powder. it's a European thing, that's also something done in Asia around four to four thirty in the afternoon. there's also a mid day tea, that's around lunch time, it's mostly an Australian thing, people in New Zealand that also do.
4:36 I think anything that is steaped in hot water can be called a tea. Broth denotes long cooking time and high cooking temperature and the separation of liquids from solids. I think a tea is anything not long cooked at medium to high heat, but rather just steaped.
French press coffee??
This was chaotic
Seems simple to me. Broth primary ingredent bones. Stock primary ingredient meat or veg. Tea primary ingredient plants (leaves, herbs, flowers and fruit etc).
A wry smile creeps across his face knowing he's told a fib is a hard line
Tea, I have been a long time lover of tea. Actually got a job offer from Teavana when they had opened in our mall, because I was educating one of their customers of the types of tea.
White- Young minimally processed Camellia sinensis
Yellow- Similar to green, with a slightly different processing
Green - Non-oxidized Camellia sinensis
Black - Oxidized Camellia sinensis
Red- Red bush tea from the Aspalathus linearis plant in Africa
Herbal/Tisane - Herbs, other parts of the plants
High tea is when everyone eats some edibles, then roughly 45 minutes later they put some tea on and just see where things go
Me, currently on edibles 👁 👄 👁
Kings Hawaiian Rolls , as far as I know, just came to Canada. Saw them in ads a month ago and in the store 2 weeks ago. Maybe I just never noticed. As for the tea, maybe what you are describing is the difference between a tea and a tisane.
Ballistics test gel is an aspic
Could you have a different tea a day and determine how many kinds of sauce, jellies or other meals that could include the day of the day?
Homemade bone broth is wonderful. The end.
ilex vomitoria also known as Yaupon holly is one of the few plants that produces caffeine in its leaves its also native to the americas. It makes a delicious tea 5/5 definitely recommend
in Tonga there is a "lemonade" made by boiling citrus leaves and either drinking it warm or cold, I guess that would be a "citrus broth"?
As soon as Josh asked if kombucha had mushrooms in it i also immediately got Sugar stuck in my head
Coming from a SEA country where tea and bone broth is a very frequent thing, this topic amuses me 😂
I think most mint teas I've seen are tea, that is they're a mix of mint leaves and green tea. I know herbal mint tea (ie without the tea plant) also exists but I think it's less popular then green mint tea at least in American supermarkets.
i did NOT expect josh to touch on the sorb3t controversy 😂 man really does have an approximate knowledge of so many things
Thank you for keeping my sleep deprived ass entertained at the buttcrack of dawn.
How is it that only your ass is sleep-deprived.
The System of a Down song Josh was speaking of is "Sugar".
mint tea _is_, in fact, usually desiccated, and sometimes augmented with fresh mint.
The tea from other than tea plants is called TISANE
22:00 I always do a double take at a Kris Morningstar name drop because that's my old neighbor haha
I just want to know the brand of Chai!
I've microwaved broccoli in a cup with water too cook. I drank the water and it was delicious and reminded me of tea. Hot cabbage water sounds good, as does hot ham water.
You guys should do a Frisian tea ceremony, given Josh's desire for ritual 08:48
Bone broth is commonly considered bone +/- connective tissue +/- meat + water. Usually seasoned with salt but not always. For canning/homesteading, the purpose is to extract as much nutrition from the otherwise unusable/trash bits, so it can be boiled up to 72 hours or until the bones turn chalky. Stock is that same combo but + aromatics +/- vegetable inclusions. A lot of vegetables and herbs can turn bitter when cooked for longer times, so they are added later or added at the start but not cooked as long. I have actually seen/heard people call beef broth beef tea which tickled my brain in a fun way. I'm not opposed, if for no other reason than whimsy.
Josh trying to imitate Sleep Token is stellar content.
Awesome job Josh with the podcast drop a like
That didn't get my red up, that made me get my "Vincent Vega from Pulp Fiction" outfit on to tell the asker, "I'm gonna have to get medieval on you now, hoss."
I think the difference between bone broth and broth or stock is the fact that bone broth becomes mostly solid and jiggly when cooled
Here five minutes in wondering if they’re ever going to land on “infusion”.
In Spanish (at least in Colombia) it would be Agua Aromática
25:08 I boil my tea water in a pot and ladle it into my mug
I trust you more than people who use a microwave.
Numi sold "Savory Tea" a decade ago. They had six flavors, Beet Cabbage, Fennel Spice, Broccoli Cilantro, Spinach Chive, Tomato Mint, and Carrot Curry. They were interesting.
..anybody else think of Rodney Dangerfield when they said 'no respect' after josh shared how he does tea at home 😅