Bowen exposes Moyes lies | Hat-trick hero reveals the real reason Hammers went into attack mode
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- Much has been said about the reason for West Ham's 4-2 win against Brentford. The latest rumour to do the rounds is that manager David Moyes surrendered power to coach Kevin Nolan who masterminded the Premier League victory. However, in a revealing interview, Jarrod Bowen has spoken of how he addressed and rallied the West Ham squad having clearly become frustrated with the Hammers recent form. With leadership in short supply, Bowen spoke of how he cajoled his West Ham tea-mates and took charge of the team who HAD been coached and prepared by David Moyes in the build-up to the crunch victory against Brentford.
Quite what this means for Kurt Zouma's captaincy is anyone's guess but Bowen seems to have positioned himself as leader of the group.
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Alvarez for captain. Something Roy Keane about him 💪🏻
Sometimes I look at our team and think bowen is the only player with a pair. He always works the hardest even when others have lost hope. He's given his career to us & must captain our team.
100%.
I’m not a fan of forward players being captains, they should focus on scoring only in my opinion
@@Sukiethenoodlegood point they get too involved but you have to choose a captain that they respect
@Sukiethenoodle was Alan shearer a captain? A midfielder would be better, but bowen is the only one who's signed a long term contract. He's determined and will do anything for us to progress
A great point re Bowen being Captain. Not the obvious choice, but now that I think about it, he probably has 1) the respect of all the players, and the manager, 2) he has endless energy so can cope with additional responsibility, 3) he rarely gets booked, showing his self-control, 4) he is a model of commitment, with his contract to his "switched-on" approach to football, 5) he is improving as a player every season. What do you think?
Moyes doesn't get enough criticism for how badly he messed up selecting a new captain with zouma
Give it a rest come on mate
@@dannymmahoney6403exactly, at the time everyone was saying it was an inspired decision
Once Moyes retires which I think he should reitre at the end of the season. We have some good memories from the progress we have made in terms of progression. No one can say we are in worse position.
Make Alvarez captain…He could be our new ‘Billy Bonds’. He’s in the perfect position on the pitch to organise and encourage the players around him.
Consider the possibility of West Ham United returning to their historical football roots by acquiring the 'Memorial Recreation Ground' in Canning Town from the Newham Council.
The site, established in 1897, was reported to accommodate up to 100,000 spectators at its peak (source: Wikipedia).
The Memorial Recreation Ground holds both sentimental value and strategic advantages, spanning 12.4 hectares or approximately 30.641 acres.
Its prime location offers close proximity to all essential amenities, including West Ham station, Underground (tube), Overground (District, Circle, Central lines, Jubilee, Stratford etc.) DLR and all major bus routes.
(Blimey, I could become an estate agent, with all that spiel)
Anyway, such a move could align with the club's heritage and history, while providing a well-connected and ample space for a football-related stadium.
Nice thought but it would cost money and errr we no how the dwarf feels about that....maybe playing to his ego and telling him he could return West Ham to the very start of the clubs beginning and he will always be remembered for that in the years to come.
Tottenham spent a billion pound on a new stadium materials and labour have gone up since then so it would be over a billion
@@seanmwh We don't have to spend money on special stages for the gigs and go-kart tracks, which has cost Spuds massive chunk of total investment.
The only construction Sullivan will sanction West Ham money to is possibly a new wing on his mansion!
I played there with Queens athletic in the 70s. Had an iconic feel back then
I absolutely disagree with you Gonzo about the Wisley interchange junction 10 on the M25, the accident WAS caused by Moyes due to his lowblocking of other cars ⚒
Brilliant comment 😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
The phrase "Cometh the hour, cometh the man" comes to mind!
bowen had the king dyer speech " you are fuckin west ham you boys need to grow sum"
Bowen is with the club for the distance- really pleased he stepped up in terms of leadership and took responsibility. Hopefully he has saved his place in the England squad at the same time too.
The fact Zouma was made captain is bewildering when you consider his injury record alone.He is NOT a leader and doesn't come across to me as a player that takes his role seriously.The training ground clips of him joking around all the time dont impress me one iota.
He must be stripped of the captaincy.
I'd make JWP skipper, he did the job at Southampton, I think it would bring the best out of him.
Just a thought, what about Álvarez as (captain} and Bowen (vice-captain)?
I also think Bowen is one of the only players that can’t get away from the pressure of being part of West Ham as he goes home and gets feedback from fans at home within he’s family life so he gets it Danny & Danny 😎⚒️⚒️⚒️
Gonzo that title is some delicious click bait, well played.
Believe it or not, I don't think he did it on purpose. I think the title came out differently than he intended.
He said something else that was interesting -he gave credit to Moyes for drilling them all week to defend against long throws and corners . This confirms to me how Moyes focuses on defensive coaching and not attacking coaching -maybe Nolan should take this on more?
Good, we've given away far too many goals from long throws.
Or he was just trying to stop us conceding goals in a way we have done in the past. Literally every manager practices defending
Tbh, I thought toward the end of last season that Jarrod would be a good captain. In interviews his demeanor had changed completely. Rather than shy and reserved he was thoughtful, relaxed and incisive. He stated his love for the club and you could tell he wasn’t just offering platitudes. I think he should have been named captain when he signed his new deal. Maybe he didn’t want it, or maybe Moyes thought he was too short. Kidding. But in effort and commitment he’s been one of the leaders for a while. And now he’s vocal and the team has responded. He’s confident. He works hard. He should be captain.
I watched that interview from Monday night yesterday morning and was so buoyed by Bowen’s attitude. I agree with you that he’s not necessarily captain material but the fact that he was compelled to stand up and be counted shows that there is a vacancy for that role. My thoughts are on Alvarez to take it on and Zouma given the elbow. Let’s just see the attitude at the next game. COYI ⚒️⚒️⚒️⚒️
There isn't a massive divide in the fanbase. All West Ham fans want rid of Moyes. Anyone with a contrary view isn't a West Ham fan. Simples.
Jarrod´s dad, Sam was a captain and a player manager in the "Roy Keane " model. It was a lower level of football but he was very talented, determined and hard!
Great video. Well said at the start aswel. I really don’t like a lot of this moyes out stuff I see on social media. I’m 50/50 myself after being moyes in up until the Arsenal 6-0 game. Just can’t we all get behind the team and the manager til the end of the season and part company then. He has done a fantastic job but I think it’s time we go in a different direction next season. Just don’t like a lot of the crap I see on social media about him. He doesn’t deserve it
Agreed, you can have a justified opinion of why you want Moyes out (which I completely get). But when it goes beyond that (derogatory) it’s not good to see. We’ve won our first trophy for many many years, Moyes has categorically earned the right to manage this season.
I mean I have been Moyes out for quite a while now, not sure exactly when but had fully had enough when Larnaca played us off the pitch and we went defensive, at blooming Larnaca. I can't as a football fan (especially a West Ham fan) be happy conceding possession, watch another team play football while we try to hit them on the break. I don't shout Moyes out every 5 seconds or post all the time about this being his fault, that being his fault etc. I just ask for a different mentality in the club so do not want Moyes in charge.
I understand that there are some Moyes in people, that the win and staying in the premier league is what matters most. Not sure I can believe they go to many of the games as they are dull even when winning (just look at the atmosphere), but everyone has their opinions.
What I don't like are the people who jump on a bandwagon after a loss then on the other bandwagon when we win again, these are the reason why clubs go through so many managers these days and probably quite a big part of the problem in modern day football. Bring a youngster in who plays 2 games, ship him off. Best championship footballer joins and looks like a great footballer, plays in the wrong system has a few bad games, ship him off. These are the people that do my head in.
David Moyes is very capable of digging his own hole 😳……you’re words Gonzo 😂😂😂
And always digging it in the wrong place.
Interesting this … haven’t seen the club interview, but Bowen was the post match feature interviewee on Monday night football, and I remember thinking he seems so much more confident, forthright & a bigger ‘personality’ than he he’s ever been. Maybe Nobes has been in his ear ….
Not the video I expected from the title, I thought Moyes had been caught fibbing 🤣
MSM love to bring up the most recent performance when it suits them but when it doesn’t they say that we should look back to previous form
Morning Gonzo, haven't you ever heard the saying "watch out for the quiet ones". I live not far from leominster & my workmates tell me his old man was a handfull in his playing days.
Enjoyed that, really interesting. Feels like they are clearing the way for Zouma to be dropped. Alvarez should be captain imo
Enjoyed that, Gonzo, brilliant. Let's have more front foot football (hopefully!).
Really enjoy this! Well done chaps
Bowen should be Captain
Yes. Álvarez as well. Why not captain of attack and captain of defense? Zouma doesn't quite have dog in him to be a captain imo. We had just lost 2-0 to Forest and the midweek video is Zouma laughing and joking with a rapper or smth. It rubbed me wrong way.
Alvarez should be captain 💯 real leader gets stuck every game
@@johnburley4155Exactly - no reason why not. Zouma would have to leave tho at this point. Disharmony risk otherwise.
Yes mate absolutely I make you right there son
I saw that tweet this morning, I actually thought it was supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek parody headline rather than a genuine claim 😂
Great points today, and far to many to highlight here. thanks for getting Michael on Gonz
Shame Moysegate doesn't come out and accept a minimal amount of blame
jesus christ, i thought the geezer on the right at 4.45 , is a robot or a cartoon character . lol
He understands West Ham as Danny Dier is his father in law and his wife is a West Ham fan, maybe that has helped but I have seen a photo of him, smiling coming off the pitch straight to Heitinga whilst David Moyes didn’t shake the players hands and walk straight down the tunnel ⚒
You've seen a photo, which proves...?.sod fuckin all! Yeah players hate Moyes he hates them, and Johnny H is the manager when we wim, David M takes charge when we lose, cos he's such a negative force at the club! He may have saved us from regeneration twice, but what else has Mr misery done, turned lower wingers into top strikers? No wonder Bowen can't stand him, I mean if he was still at Hull he'd be England's no.9 way ahead kraft Kate., but thanks too moyesn he's not, and. This mad experiment with Bowen as cf has failed. It's true I read comments from loads of nobles with an agenda, have said as much, so it's true! Just like Yr photograph it proves everything, well done Mr nobody, big pat on the back for a photo you've seen, and even said. What it means, Yr a true supporter, if only we could.dcfind more idiots to talk about a photo they've seen and said what it means!! You have exposed the deep state MSM for what they are.....
Where can I find this interview?
Great video guys , I can’t understand why zouma was made captain when he only plays 30 games and the most a season and after the whole cat kicking thing, there talk of a new deal for him if there is it needs to be a pay as you play and maybe dropping him to vice captain and moving Bowen to captain
I was a bit surprised at Bowen's interview. Going by what he said and the way he said it, he definitely wants the captaincy.
Bowen for captain and ward prowse as vice captain as he also stood up alongside Bowen and gave his voice in the dressing room , that’s the way I herd it ! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⚒️
Gonzo, I d be interested in your thoughts... Our kids were world beaters last season, yet it is Klopp and the Liverpool kids who are successfully being integrated into their first team...Why aren't our kids coming through!
Great convo, bowen/Alv for captaincy
In Bowen we trust
a bit of a click-baity title to this video tbh. Bowen does not expose Moyes lies - he exposes lies about Moyes...there is a huge difference...
That was excellent Gonzo 👍
My extensive experience is that Bowen is an extremely talented leader in waiting. I also think he could easily captain England to great success. So much Mooro about him. Greenwood would have had him as captain without question, but he may need to be TOLD to be captain rather than asked ;-)
He may not the leader we expected but he is definitely the one we have. He's stepped and thats what a true captain does.
A good discussion but why do you have written headlines saying Bowen exposes Moyes lies. Have I missed something or is it you can’t resist being negative
Lies about Moyes I think he means 👍🏼
Bowen top fella and set to become a legend at the club
The truth is that we don't have a captain in our current squad, the attributes of a captain needs to be leadership and has nothing to do with their playing abilities. True that they have to have playing skills to warrant a place on the pitch but looking at our 'best' players to be captain is not the correct way to go about it. People talking about Bowen don't understand what a captain needs to be. Bowen could well be our best and is likely to be our most important player now and for years to come but he's no captain. Bowen keeps his head down and just gets on with his job, be it on the wing or up front, he's doing what he's told the best he can but he's not leading on the pitch and I doubt he takes charge off it either. Compare that with Noble who was never the best player but was undoubtedly the best player we had to be captain and it's that leadership, not his playing skills that made him almost undropable for previous managers but certainly unsellable.
Enjoyed that😊
Said after the Arsenal cup win that he should be made captain on the pitch leaving Zou as club captain.
He lead by example and has generally continued to do so.
Even more Moyes out after Brentford game. It showed that high press works and it's taken him this long to work it out..... Low block suite can't stand it, it's crap!
Options for captain:
Alvarez
Bowen
Paqueta -incentive to stay too
Coufal
Ogbonna - more as the group leader like nobles last days
Couldn't agree more
Interesting - methinks Alvarez should captain us, he’s the natural fit.
Alverez as Captain
1 win on 2024 playing the way he does not, and rarely plays = Shows why we need a new, dynamic and exciting COACH!
West Ham actually got 4 men attacking the opposition box at the same time in the first half which gave them options of someone finishing.. and goes what, they did!. Not exactly rocket science, but Moyes likes to make it difficult.
For me West Ham team today is the best I’ve seen for a long time when playing football and on there day how good are they special? Its always sad to leave home and get a bigger house and we fill the seats the club is growing into a big club ❤⚒⚒⚒
In my humble opinion Bowen will become a WHU legend in the mould of Bobby Moore Billy Bonds and Mark Noble . A true Captain works just as hard off the field as on. The one thing all 3 had in common was a great work ethic as opposed to a natural talent.
Yeah those bloody Moysie M25 traffic jams,...they're even on the M11 Loughton junction,... i knew those traffic cones were from the Rush Green training ground. 🤔
What comes to mind about bowen more than most players at west ham i see is that he prides himself in not just being a professional footballer but also a professional athlete. Having both acuments is alot of credit to his success, hard work and determination. Who would have thought he would have turned out to be our best goal scorer. Probably dont or does help that his dad in law wouldn't not be giving him an earful and breathing down his neck 😀
You cant someone more quiet than Zouma
Agree. Zouma is too passive to be captain. He also hasn’t. got the best reputation after that social media incident a couple of years ago.
Vardy comes to mind thinking of Jarrod
Just look at the media Jeff Stellion you can put your Moyes out banner away now . Geoff it’s been one game playing how we should but why not every game . He doesn’t watch every game or listen to what the fans are saying. He has no idea of the combination of different issues we have with Moyes . So many times documented this season on West Ham Channels
The title of this video is a bit misleading. I was expecting to see something very controversial about Bowen exposing the lies OF Moyes not ABOUT Moyes
When I read that, I unfollowed the news source that it was on.
Bowen could be the next Noble. There are similarities. U actually think Zouma gets in the way of others. Edson and JWP are better options, even Soucek skippers the Czech team
If u watch Bowen reaction after scoring the first goal , cupping his ear as if to say what’s all the noise about perhaps he and the players were motivated and embarrassed at what we’ve been putting up with for a long time now ? So if the improvement in his and the teams form means maybe there getting what we have been saying and let’s hope the form carries on and Sullivan makes the right decision sooner rather than later!!
I fail to understand why we want Moyes to leave. We are in a healthier position now as a team than West Ham over all are usually ever in… we can’t compete with the elite teams above us so we’re we currently are is perfect
I've said it before, Bowen deserves a go at captaincy if he wants to do it. I for one would love to see him go for it
Bowen got in early and spiked the pre-match Horlicks (from a reliable ITK 😉). He wouldn't be my first choice for captain but he's got the character and mental toughness to lead by example. If he did speak to the others I could imagine him doing quietly, 1-2-1 and not in a rousing battle cry. Alvarez would be my choice for the armband. COYI.
Acid test is v everton.
Moyes will tell them its back to normal lads,i cant attack and bury myself.
Zouma is playing like a cripple. And that would effect his all round performance as captain.
Aguerd would thrive in a offensive side. Hes clearly not happy playing moyesball.a waste of talent imo. Not the first is he!!!.under moyes.racehorses being used as donkey rides 🥱
I enjoyed that one Gonzo. Captain, Emerson comes to mind. Thanks.
Thanks mate . . . Emerson is aging like a fine wine mate. Have a good day
The difference between a player and a professional
I love Bowen to bits, i wouldn't be against him being captain, he certainly has the passion and after hearing his interview he obviously is shy about telling the other players how he feels and what he wants to see from them .
As for Zouma , as a player, he's done imo , he's broken he scares me to death whenever I see him get further up the pitch because he can't get back, he can't jump anymore, he gets done way to often.
Gonzo, every team has a person who has the pre match speach. Win, lose or draw. Are u suggesting it was the pre speach that got us the win. Paq arrived & we won. That's all that can be said.
Gonzo, why don't the media ask the VERY SAME QUESTION to Bowen when we lose.
Gonzo, I am a WHU life time supporter. My family goes back to 1900. From the very beginning. We were all Hammers people. I like what you said, being balanced about the Moyes' story. I live in Australia and i saw Jarrod's interview. He acknowledged the role of Moyes in the win. My big problem is the lack of respect and the malicious and personal vitriol against Moyes. I fully understand the concerns about the playing style of the team. I object to the vile personal abuse. That's not the Wesf Ham way. Finally, if I were Moyes I'd resign and walk out in the knowledge that I have left the club in a better position than when I came in. After the aborted Pelligreni experiment. I don't like lynch-mobs. It's not us. Thanks Gonzo. Up the Irons.
Said that all correctly.
Well said. Moyes frustrates me and I want a new manager but I'm grateful for what he has achieved. Unfortunately all the personal abuse is deemed acceptable these days. COYI.
I doubt very much,it was only Bowen he stood up and had a rallying cry
That Wisley interchange is a nightmare, definitely Moyes fault
I hope David ‘ there aren’t many teenagers good enough to play in the premiership ‘ Moyes is currently watching Liverpools FA cup game
Bowen slowly becoming club captain I see. Good to see and fully back it!
I think Danny had a little word with him before the game
That’ll be the same person who tells you that Moyes wants control over everything and won’t listen to anyonelse. Now we’re to believe Nolan did everything.:))
Zouma seems like a big likeable character but a captain he is not - I don’t want to dig him out too much but he looks barely capable of literally kicking a ball atm - we’ve had a torrid run and he’s been AWOL
I knew it, I thought there was the possibility that the players just got together and said "screw it, let's actually play football." Moyes OUT.
I haven't heard about why we won 4-2, but then again I'm just happy we won I suppose
We had all this with allerdyce and look what happened when we gave him no new contract
I didn't listen ( i still haven't) to any pundits or read any posts , because i was happy with the result and how we played, and i didn't want them ruining my happiness,
I know what they'll be saying , blah blah Moyes great fans bad blah blah.
I think MN has had a chat with Bowen which is probably why Bowen has taken charge, Noble hasn’t gone away and he cares too much for our club.
The last 2 years have shown the growing pains of the club as it tries to position itself as a top tier club. The dead wood has to go before the new can flourish. That has been the struggle. It is happening. More pain to come. The dead wood will go and new management (coach and directors/owners), and players will come along. And the club will become a tier club.
As much as I think we should move on from Moyes, it does seem to be when we do poorly it's all on him but whenever we do well it is thanks to everyone else
Sadly, thats were we are now as a fanbase. This war has to stop. Sometimes I think some of these people dont care about the club anymore. They just care about getting Moyes out.
Moyes needs to go ASAP
Was Trevor ok?
Alverez is a natural leader also your captain should be 1st on the team sheet
Parker had to do the same in the Avram Grant season as Upson had no balls or leadership skills
One thing Bowen ain’t is shy or quiet or however you want to put it and I don’t really see why anyone would think he is
If he was, he would never have got into the relationship he’s in now and he would never look as relaxed as he does in post match interviews
Weird take
Great analysis of stats on Sky MNF with Jamie Carragher. Completely justifies fans discontent with the season so far. I thought Bowen sounded like a captain. Zouma appointment was another example of bad management.