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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
  • In This Video I will be building the burners for my new gas forges and showing you guys and girls the prototype forge.
    The Burners are made form a brought Venturi 1"BSP which I believe to be the same or similar to the burner that Alec Steele Uses in his forge. They work great and I made the for a pretty good price as well.
    The total build cost for the burner was £31.29 or $40 ish using the amazon ordered part. It worked super well and gave some great results. with a little bit of simple welding and drilling a how you could do the same.
    Parts list
    Venturi 1inch NEW LINK AND CHEAPER!!!
    www.aliexpress...
    Black Pipe fittings and Valve
    1inch dai by 8inch long nipple.
    male 1.1/4inch to female 1inch adapter.
    1/4inch ball valve.
    www.jtmplumbin...
    Fuel Jet/Mig Tip
    www.premierwel...
    Bulk Head Fitting!
    Can't find the right fitting and larger washers online just yet but contact me and Ill see what I can do
    Sorry! industrialartstudios@gmail.com
    Uncle Bucks video! Thanks for the help dude epic
    • How I made my propane ...
    Burner Documents
    www.instructab...
    Email for T -Shirts!
    industrialartstudios@gmail.com
    Website
    www.iastudios....
    Patreon
    / trustmeimablacksmith
    Instagram
    / iastudios_dan

Komentáře • 261

  • @danielmoss2089
    @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +13

    Just saw that the venturis are out of stock!!!!!! If people really want I might have a way to get the but please let me know as I will need to make a large order!!!!

    • @marcsenteney3160
      @marcsenteney3160 Před 5 lety

      Daniel Moss I would love to 5-6 of them! Our smithing class is about to build some new gas forges as our group is always growing. Let me know if you can get them please!

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +2

      @@marcsenteney3160 well if there is lots of interest I'll look into it dude. I'll do some up dates soon.

    • @GibClark
      @GibClark Před 5 lety +1

      US they are still available but bps isnt standard lol

    • @mickcaulton001
      @mickcaulton001 Před 5 lety +2

      I would defiantly be up for getting the parts for this. I have looked into building a similar burner or 2 in the past but have struggled to get the parts I needed without buying multiples. The suppliers I did find who would do small orders were in the US which ruled them out due to the shipping cost.
      I have also spoken online to other people in the UK and Ireland who have had the same issues which makes me believe you would not have an issue in finding enough customers to make a bulk order worth while.
      Please message me back if you do get this idea going. Thanks for the videos Dan and keep up your good work and contributions to the smithing community.

    • @thetradesman7478
      @thetradesman7478 Před 5 lety

      I also might be interested in 3 of them. Need for a forge build. Will they come welded and assembled? Thank you for the videos Daniel.

  • @JarlSeamus
    @JarlSeamus Před 5 lety +9

    Nice Dan, however....:
    For those of us in the US, be aware the pipe threads on these fittings are NOT compatible with off the shelf parts from home stores like Lowes. BSP is similar to NPT, but not the same and the difference is enough that you will have a lot of trouble sealing leaks and getting parts to move smoothly.
    If you buy this venturi, make sure you also order BSP nipples, valves and nuts. You will also need an adapter to go to a standard US hose or regulator.

  • @paklos99
    @paklos99 Před 4 lety

    Finally a forge video with easy to follow instructions. Brilliant stuff. Thank you!!!

  • @lemix69
    @lemix69 Před 3 lety

    I'm going to be building a forge for myself and start learning blacksmithing. Watching a lot of CZcams videos on the subject. Thanks for the video and the explanations. ⚒😎

  • @ianlowe4666
    @ianlowe4666 Před 5 lety +3

    I think the first time I saw DIY gas burners like these were on Ron Reil's website way back in the day. They were simple and worked well enough to do the job, I built one myself and still use it in my little foundry furnace. Looks like there have been some refinements to the concept, like the one piece cast venturi and choke. You might consider a 90 degree bend in the burner tube to help protect the ball valve from the chimney effect Dan, like in a Swan. I'd also check out 'blown' gas burners (and in particular 'ribbon' burners) if you're going to run classes, natural venturi's tend to eat propane when compared.

  • @7g3p
    @7g3p Před 4 lety

    This is a lot better than my current burner design. Thanks!

  • @6lr6ak6
    @6lr6ak6 Před 3 lety +1

    I tig welded one up from stainless pipe, a mate drilled a 5mn hole through a stainless 12mm bolt on his lathe, like this the temperatures are amazing sounds like a jet engine when the regulators turned up full to 4 Bar.

  • @1day129
    @1day129 Před 5 lety +5

    Hey Daniel, thanks for the info about the hydraulic bolt head earlier being 1/2 inch. i have almost finished my burners now. as per an old conversation about alec Steele in the comments.. consider this- i have seen alec steeles videos.. in his old ones he was like a normal person. he added sensationalism.. people who probably will never pick up a hammer may watch them. your videos are solid. you play to the people intent on working at blacksmithing and you do it bloody well. if you wish to sensationalise and get a higher subscription then think Bruce Forsythe, add a bit of glamour. start making throwing axes with gold inlay. to me thats just playing to the crowd.. i have watched plenty of you both, but i come to your channel to learn and his for light entertainment.

  • @886014
    @886014 Před 5 lety +2

    Fantastic video, thank you! As a noob to blacksmithing I've been impressed at how willing many experts like yourself are to give up their time to help others.

  • @1day129
    @1day129 Před 5 lety

    it took a while but i finally built myself two forge burners. thanks Daniel. after i finish my foundry build i will try a forced air burner. well happy with these. Thanks Daniel!!!

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety

      Thanks dude happy to help keep safe and love to see some picture??

    • @1day129
      @1day129 Před 5 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 i was hoping to but i don't think there is a way i can post pictures in the comments. happy to post on your website (if you have one) or anywhere else.

  • @MikaelKjell
    @MikaelKjell Před 4 lety

    I would suggest using ceramic fiber between the bricks and the metal structure. I used to work doing this, but way larger stuff😊 The fiber saves both bricks and the metal frame, and keeps the heat inside the forge much better😊 I like your video and think I will try it. Thank you😊🙏

  • @gelacioadofina2013
    @gelacioadofina2013 Před 3 lety +2

    I think u did good ill try it cause i try aburner from online it tooks 20 min ur work makes 3 min good

  • @htooaung115
    @htooaung115 Před 2 lety

    Wow...... Right.s.....Very good.

  • @elisoncorreadasilva4937
    @elisoncorreadasilva4937 Před 3 lety +1

    Muito bacana o funcionamento
    Excelente show parabéns 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @1369buddy
    @1369buddy Před 4 lety

    The thumb wheel,, a 2in hole saw + a 5/16 bit chucked in a drill press. Get some 1/4 or 3/8 aluminium plate.. drill out a 2 in slug,,tap the hole.....presto...a perfect fit

  • @horatiostreet1
    @horatiostreet1 Před 5 lety

    Wow, nice job. That thing is powerful.From watching other sites on the same subject - flux drippings begin eating the floor of the firebox from the git-go. A hard ceramic fire brick floor would seem like a good idea.Easy to pop out and replace when it gets eaten away.

  • @johnwp111
    @johnwp111 Před 5 lety +5

    To get better control the flame you need to have a 60 degree taper on your flare. Its all to do with flame front and gas pressure. As you turn the gas down the gas flow cannot support such a large flame front, by having a taper the flame front is able to move back down the taper thus giving you grater control.

    • @jrocks1971
      @jrocks1971 Před 5 lety +1

      12 degree taper on the flare, Sir. 60 is waaay too extreme an angle. (12 degrees = 1" to 2" over 1foot.) That's your angle for the burner flare -- my experience -- ymmv...

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent detail. I'm thinking about using 1/4" NPS lamp pipe for the tube and a 1/4" NPT floor flange as my adjuster. I'm thinking I'll have to use a thread or die to tune up some of the thread sizes.

  • @rogerarmstrong2539
    @rogerarmstrong2539 Před 5 lety +2

    Dan
    Please keep us informed of your experience. I am particularly interested in how it burns after 15 or 20 minutes. My experience is that the end of the burner tube (flare) can get very hot resulting in gas ignition in the burner tube causing chuffing - inefficient ignition. I'm also interested in the pressure you work the burner at and your experience with using different size jet diameters.

    • @jakobbull5454
      @jakobbull5454 Před 5 lety

      I'm also interested in the answer. I've dabbled with gas orifice size and have used the proper calculations for mixing tube length and volume but still ran funny until I upped the size but it doesn't reach welding heat still, so am unsure of reducing the size again and upping the pressure to keep the gas volume but increased speed?

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +1

      So not sure if I said about this in the video but the plan is to make different flares when my lathe is running again. Out of stainless and chuckyer.
      Also using the fire brick to create part if the flare should also help. If my research holds up. Lol
      I will keep people posted.

  • @elisoncorreadasilva4937

    Revendo o vídeo vi com mais detalhes o quanto ficou perfeito
    Magnífico lindo a chama ficou bem uniforme parabéns 👏👏👏👏👏👏
    Posta o funcionamento dele na forja 👍

  • @phaitoon8183
    @phaitoon8183 Před 4 lety

    You are very good. Great works.

  • @sancaocampos326
    @sancaocampos326 Před 4 lety

    Very good job mate.

  • @jayrenz111
    @jayrenz111 Před 5 lety

    Great video. Will be useful for my own gas forge. Thanks

  • @puneetsingh8364
    @puneetsingh8364 Před 4 lety

    Good design and we'll explained , thanks

  • @luukderksen8810
    @luukderksen8810 Před 5 lety

    The gas forge i build, i made from scrap steel, a top plate (4mm) thick, the end of the burner i welded in that top top plate so i have no leaks and its not wobley. On Every Side 90 degre bends so its slides over the bottembox, also scrap. On the left and right of that top plate i drilled and tapped 2 holes with thread so i could remove the top plate with burner and change the bricks. The box is the same sizes as the bricks i can get in or near my hometown,
    Front and back its open so i can close it up with bricks or have a gap for bigger stuff to pass treu. Piece of angle iron welded to the box.
    For a first forge is runs good but i found out its handy to have a support for you work, so i welded 2 pieces of pipe on the sides and a other piece slides in and out the support the workpiece. On left en right welded a handle so its easy to lift.
    Check Every time before forging with soap if you have leaks, and my regulator runs fine with 4 of 5 bar of pressure. Biggest propane tank is a must (the small one freeses up) pressure drops)
    when the forge is on temp. I dial the pressure down because forging on propane and making hours its pretty expencive.
    Build a coal forge one year later and i dont use the propaneforge much anymore.
    Thanks dan, the hammer is one Nice tool to have and it feels like a piece of my body. Awesome!

  • @anthonyrobbins5752
    @anthonyrobbins5752 Před 5 lety

    Hey dan I used a pizza oven brick as the base of my gas forge, they are a lot harder than the k26 insulation bricks and only half the thickness, so had to do a bit of cutting to make it fit but it seems to be holding up quite well

  • @jonathanderbidge6819
    @jonathanderbidge6819 Před 5 lety

    Hey man, a little easier to find would be a 1/4 lamp nipple which come as a 1/4x27npt they are also considerably cheaper than a bulkhead.

  • @SoggyBottomForgeJoe
    @SoggyBottomForgeJoe Před 5 lety

    I'm definitely going to be building one of these. Thanks for the info.

  • @keithwhipple9048
    @keithwhipple9048 Před 5 lety

    Good information as always. Loved the video.

  • @grandadz_forge
    @grandadz_forge Před 5 lety

    May be helping a friend build his forge soon. This comes in handy! Thanks

  • @lenblacksmith8559
    @lenblacksmith8559 Před 5 lety

    This was good Dan, the burner looked good, the Gameco burners have a threaded reducer on the end, I have the small burner but intend getting the bigger one.

  • @mtyson9004
    @mtyson9004 Před 5 lety

    Very cool Dan! Thank you!

  • @mrstephenporter
    @mrstephenporter Před 4 lety +2

    I Daniel. Have you got a source for the extra long hydraulic bulkhead fitting please. Finding it difficult to source here in UK. Tanks a million

    • @mrstephenporter
      @mrstephenporter Před 4 lety +1

      rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222149177255

    • @lordzlomek
      @lordzlomek Před 4 lety +1

      @@mrstephenporter Are these the ones Daniel used in his burner?

    • @mrstephenporter
      @mrstephenporter Před 4 lety +1

      Yes

    • @lordzlomek
      @lordzlomek Před 4 lety +1

      @@mrstephenporter Thanks!

  • @stanervin6108
    @stanervin6108 Před 5 lety

    Nice, Daniel!

  • @MegaPoxie
    @MegaPoxie Před 5 lety

    I like the simplicity of your burner design the most, are you still offering the venturi and gas jet set up? Have you thought of selling the venturi/jet/airflow washer set up pre-made? Cheers.

  • @markclement3392
    @markclement3392 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm in the states and i am having trouble finding the 1/4 bspp hydraulic bulkhead fitting extra long. does anyone have a link where i can order it?

  • @fryscountrylifechannel4437

    Great video btw

  • @MLFranklin
    @MLFranklin Před 4 lety +2

    Great video. But those parts are for BSP pipe sizes. Do you have any information on similar venturi adapters that fit US NPT pipe sizes?

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 4 lety +2

      The parts only come in BSP i'm very sorry. How ever the internet can provide if you look.

  • @techronmattic5876
    @techronmattic5876 Před 5 lety +2

    Try Gameco Artisan supplies for your burner parts

  • @fryscountrylifechannel4437

    Did you get a gauge for the tank yet, I’m really curious as to your psi?

  • @fernandocesarmota4988
    @fernandocesarmota4988 Před 4 lety

    bom dia, belo trabalho parabens

  • @angelocoviello8219
    @angelocoviello8219 Před 3 lety

    Vorrei aquistare quel cannello,complimenti ottimi

  • @isvianadwi2754
    @isvianadwi2754 Před 3 lety

    Yes Yes

  • @msotolopez
    @msotolopez Před 4 lety +1

    Do you think that a forge burner can be applied to a brick pizza oven. I’m trying to enjoy eating my pizza and smell less like a fireman.

  • @zachofalltrades6116
    @zachofalltrades6116 Před 3 lety

    I have the base of the torch just not the disk that spins for the air flow where can I buy that ?

  • @coffeesstudios2122
    @coffeesstudios2122 Před 5 lety

    Go round with a single burner. More efficient burn. Thanks for all the burner parts.

  • @Gazzasore
    @Gazzasore Před 5 lety +3

    Hi Daniel Great Video,
    Hey what length is the Bulkhead fitting and did you find a link online

  • @richardneel6953
    @richardneel6953 Před 4 lety

    @Daniel Moss Now that you've used this, do you really feel the need for the venturi air adjustment washers? What's the flame like with a proper regulator and nothing in the path of the intake (or washer adjust wide open)? I've made a version of this with no adjustment and it seems to be fine. I REALLY like this pre-built venturi though. Just ordered one off Amazon!

  • @damonoffer
    @damonoffer Před 5 lety

    @Daniel Moss - Can you link me to the "male 1.1/4inch to female 1inch adapter.
    1/4inch ball valve." on the jtm plumbing site? Gonna build a couple of these sod thanks very much for your hard work making this video

  • @MrMrRubic
    @MrMrRubic Před 2 lety

    How long is the bulkhead fitting, and how large is the MIG tip hole?

  • @duaneaubuchon9453
    @duaneaubuchon9453 Před 5 lety

    Nice job sir

  • @jrocks1971
    @jrocks1971 Před 5 lety

    Fire bricks break down and crumble fast due to the extreme thermal cycling of gas forges. They're cheap-ish, but you'll spend more in the long run than you would just making a proper ceramic fiber insulated / satanite and ITC 100 coated forge in the first place. And yes -- go ribbon burners! Not cheap, but long-run cheaper and quieter. It's all about how much you'll actually use it all... if you're really into it, go deep. ;-)

  • @senkenkai
    @senkenkai Před 5 lety

    I'm trying to find the bulkhead you mentioned. Found plenty of types however the sites don't give me the over all length. Was wondering if you can direct me to a site that sells exactly what you used. I would be grateful

  • @H2Dwoat
    @H2Dwoat Před 5 lety

    Hi, I received a day in a forge for a birthday present recently. I enjoyed it tremendously and I am thinking of setting up a small hobby forge at home but don’t know where to start. I have been look8ng for used tools and a moderate size anvil but don’t know what I should expect to pay. Any advice on where to find the tools and anvil and what I should expect to pay? Cheers.

  • @jakobbull5454
    @jakobbull5454 Před 5 lety

    Great video. I do have a bit of advice and a question about gas forges. Advice first, take the weight off the bricks on the roof. My forge has a bit of pipe and a thumb screw to hold the burner but as the forge heats and cools the top bricks under there own weight have cracked, they haven't fallen in yet but will let extra heat escape. (Question) I have built my burner from a solid billet of steel but didn't ream the bore (still has drill scratches in it.) The blue cone in the flame seems to move and osalate, does your burner cone move? Sorry for the long massage.

  • @1day129
    @1day129 Před 5 lety

    If i am going to buy a M8 thread cutter, what pitch would i require to fit the mig tip? would 1.25mm be okay?

  • @awsome869
    @awsome869 Před 4 lety

    Very nice build! I am wondering what PSI range you typically use. I have built a similar burner and need to get a pressure regulator. Thanks for sharing!

  • @user-rj7cu3zg9m
    @user-rj7cu3zg9m Před 3 lety

    Hello I'm from Russia. What is the diameter of the jet? What is the pressure at the output of the gearbox? Thanks😁

  • @jaredmoore9360
    @jaredmoore9360 Před 3 lety

    Hi, do you think this burner would get steel up to welding temps at 6000 feet?

  • @1day129
    @1day129 Před 5 lety

    Hi Daniel, a 1/4 inch hydraulic bolt is 6.25mm. if the mig tip is 8mm , then how can i drill a 7mm hole for tapping into a 6.25mm bolt? i'm really confused- i can see it works.. where am i going wrong?

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +1

      Took me a second to work out what you was going on about lol. 1/4 inch is the hole diameter not the total diameter of the fitting. I believe the fitting is about 1/2" or 12-13mms

  • @claymorgan9842
    @claymorgan9842 Před 4 lety

    Daniel why not use a reducing bell for the flare?

  • @lenblacksmith8559
    @lenblacksmith8559 Před 5 lety

    This is where Alec gets his burners they come from Gameco here in Australia: www.artisansupplies.com.au/product/gas-forge-burner-bkit-1/?c=22783a5940ef

  • @zekefreshman300
    @zekefreshman300 Před 3 lety

    could you make a full parts list i couldnt find all the parts

  • @ollienet8655
    @ollienet8655 Před 2 lety

    Were you ever able to find an online source for the extended bulkhead adapters?

  • @edgreywolf
    @edgreywolf Před 5 lety

    If you use tape for the threads make sure that they're are yellow type which is specifically for gas

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety

      Thank you noted and will pass that on dude.

    • @thetradesman7478
      @thetradesman7478 Před 5 lety

      They also make a tube of sealant goop that works even better than the tape. It is more durable than the tape.

  • @georgegriffiths2235
    @georgegriffiths2235 Před 4 lety

    Try 1 1/4” to 1” 6000lbs reducer for the flare

  • @derekgargan5080
    @derekgargan5080 Před 3 lety +1

    What part of UK will your shop be for courses? I have now given up several hobbies and interested in starting something creative.

  • @luisabelsuarezonetto2626
    @luisabelsuarezonetto2626 Před 9 měsíci

    La medida del agujero de la válvula cuál es?

  • @graemebrumfitt6668
    @graemebrumfitt6668 Před 5 lety

    Hi Daniel, just getting the stuff ready for making two of these, got some 12 mm brass rod and threaded 1/4" for 60mm still got to drill 17/64 and thread M8, how long is your hydraulic bulkhead fitting, also what size hole is in your mig tip??

  • @ISOSAILING
    @ISOSAILING Před 5 lety

    what size off mig tip are you useing? 0.8, 1, or 1.2mm fed up off not being able to light my forge up as there seems to be a big burny thing in the sky just now that makes everyone put there washing out!! so have to make a gas one as i've got jobs to do, never realy use one so this should be fun lol apart from a 60mm gas burner and some fire bricks did work sort off lol

    • @ISOSAILING
      @ISOSAILING Před 5 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 oh right thank you, didn't click on the link, handy i use 0.8mm tips on my mig so might as well use the same ones and make them fit the burner.

  • @bentoombs
    @bentoombs Před 5 lety

    Nice looking burner. That was going to be my question of what pressure you're running your gas at. I might have to hit you up for a couple hats I didn't know you had those. I'll get a hold of you later. 👍👍⚒on!!!!

  • @user-ew9dw2oe2j
    @user-ew9dw2oe2j Před 9 měsíci

    Where can I find the bulkhead fitting

  • @Moondog-wc4vm
    @Moondog-wc4vm Před 5 lety

    Necessity is the mother of all mothers! I learn my smithing from a blacksmith/artist who teaches regular classes. In his forge you don't get near the gas until you have learned extensively on the coke. Consequently I much prefer working at a 'real' fire. However, his forge is based in the countryside and he has no restrictions on what fuel he uses. He also owns the land and the buidings so there is no problem with cutting holes in his own roof! (there are 9 coke forges and one gas in the building) I wanted to be able to work at home as well so I set up in my garage. I live in a city and solid fuel fires are banned and my garage being very old also has an asbestos roof. I don't need to replace it as it is not a danger unless cut up so I have no intention of putting myself to the expense of a new roof. I can't cut it for a chimney, and would be fined for a real fire anyway so I went with a gas forge. It would definitely be my second choice if all circumstances were perfect, but I can completely understand why someone would choose one if the choice is between gas and not forging at all!

  • @dylanthomas5544
    @dylanthomas5544 Před 5 lety

    I just spotted your YT page and that you are offering some venturis + a few other bits, do you have a price and time scale yet? I would be wanting 2 for my new forge I am making (And these would save me time making them)

  • @jetblackstar
    @jetblackstar Před 5 lety

    Thanks Daniel. As a novice whos come from the other side (gas and am building solid fuel forge) how does the 2 min heat time compare to the coal forge?
    Also for anyone whos willing and cant get the venturi you can get pipe adaptors that go from 1" to 1 1/2 or there abouts and they can act as your venturi. I welded a bit of metal that is quite similar to the shown venturi on the back of it.

    • @jrocks1971
      @jrocks1971 Před 5 lety

      Two minutes is fast, dude. ;-) The problem with using reducers (1" to 1.25" to 1.5", etc.) is the 'steps' -- the hard steps inside disrupt the air/gas flow. A smoothly tapering venturi is waaaay better -- both at the air intake / cooler end where the gas line connects and also at the burner 'flare' end. Someone said earlier that you need a 60 degree taper on the burner. I've always heard 12 degrees, which is far less of an angle -- i.e., over 1 foot a 1" pipe would taper to 2" -- that's your burner flare angle. I've done it -- works great and helps you still get a nice flame at lower gas pressures.

  • @ant_hart
    @ant_hart Před 5 lety

    Also...for a real cheap ‘forge’...( as I’m sure you know) an old propane gas bottle with the ends cut off and lined with ceramic blanket works a treat! ...not pretty but does the job...cost me £23👍🏼 😎

    • @dadegroot
      @dadegroot Před 5 lety

      Just remember to line your ceramic blanket with castable refractory material. The fibres in those blankets can be quite bad for you (it's not asbestos, but the effects are similar).

    • @ianlowe4666
      @ianlowe4666 Před 5 lety

      @@dadegroot Silicosis is name of the disease if I remember right. Similar to Abestosis in the damage it causes to the lungs. The damage from exposure to the fibres is cumulative but as far as I know it requires a fair amount of exposure to cause real health issues. Basically don't snort the stuff :)

    • @jrocks1971
      @jrocks1971 Před 5 lety

      Having built a 'cheap' propane bottle forge, I can tell you -- they're not cheap! By the time you're finished getting the ceramic blanket insulation ($50-$70), the rigidizer (~$20), the Satanite (cement-like liner that goes over the rigidized ceramic blanket insulation) - $15 - and the ITC 100 (~$30) for the final IR reflective finish on the inside of the forge, plus a good kiln shelf for the bottom ($20), if you use one of those -- or a castable refractory liner -- something flux-resistant, as flux eats ceramic blanket -- Never mind building your burner(s) for at least $50 each and a 0-30lb pressure gauge for your propane source ($25), you're well up around $200 USD or more. You may be able to re-use some of that on your next one, but still -- they ain't cheap. That said, a properly made LP forge will be hotter and longer-lasting by far than anything made of fire bricks. You see a lot of kilns made of fire brick because they heat up slowly to non-crazy temps, stay hot a long time and cool down slowly. Gas forges heat up fast to crazy high temps, then cool down fast and the thermal cycling is too much for the bricks -- they'll be a pile of rubble in no time. You may get more life out of them by lining the forge with a hi-temp cement like Satanite, but at that point, just build a ceramic blanket type. And yes -- everyone saying ribbon burners are a vast improvement are correct -- wider distribution of better-mixed, more complete-burning gas/air that runs quieter and at lower pressure for more heat, so you save $$ on gas and much quieter. That said -- again, not cheap. If you can weld and figure out the mix for the refractory, the vids on DIY are excellent. GO for it.

  • @newtsleatherandmetalsmithy1827

    I do believe this runs better than alec steels version

  • @dadegroot
    @dadegroot Před 5 lety

    In Australia, for a few dollars more ($7) you can get a ready-made burner from Gameco Artisan Supplies: www.artisansupplies.com.au/product-category/blacksmithing-metalsmithing-and-jewellery-supplies/gas-forge-burners-and-accessories/gameco-small-economy-forge-burners/?c=22783a5940ef
    I mention that because that company is a big supporter of blacksmithing and knife-making here, and there are all sorts of regulations here when dealing with gas.

  • @wild_willy_from_twin_city4526

    Look at a forced air burner. It will cut your gas consumption. You run about 5 psi on an atmospheric burner about 1 psi on forced air.

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety

      Looking thanks dude

    • @ianlowe4666
      @ianlowe4666 Před 5 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 While you're out there I'd also look up 'ribbon burners'. One of those in conjunction with forced air might prove interesting mate. If I was building a gasser of my own I'd definitely try making one.

    • @danbance5799
      @danbance5799 Před 5 lety +4

      There are a number of reasons to use forced air (and I do), but it doesn't cut your gas consumption. Gas consumption is all about how hot you want to get your forge, heat loss of the forge, etc. PSI numbers are completely useless without knowing the characteristics of the orifice and dimensions of the tube.
      I really like this burner design. It's very easy to control your air/fuel mixture, so you can crank up the gas if you want to forge weld, or turn it down for heat treating. In fact, I ordered 2 of those venturi heads before the video finished. What I really need is a great design for a used oil forge burner, because I can get that for free.

  • @DanPalmerCeramics
    @DanPalmerCeramics Před 5 lety

    I ordered some venturi backs from Alibaba but I can't find the threaded tube to put through. Can you help with a supplier please Dan?

    • @Doobrey
      @Doobrey Před 5 lety

      Check this out
      czcams.com/users/edit?ar=2&o=U&video_id=PCxvGr3K0W8
      Get that threaded tube from - ebay - search for 8BPX0404 1/4" X 1/4" BSPP MALE EXTENDED BULKHEAD 60 DEGREE CONE C/W LOCKNUT

  • @E-E.ADVENTUREGEARS
    @E-E.ADVENTUREGEARS Před rokem

    Could you list the parts please

  • @ManyskunksKimCurtis
    @ManyskunksKimCurtis Před 2 lety

    I'm annoyed, Dan! This is the 3rd time I have subscribed and I'm not the one that keeps unsubscribing me! I'm damn sure you aren't either!
    Do you know if it is CZcams that is doing this? It's annoying! I was wondering why I was getting no notifications from your channel! If it's CZcams doing this, do you have a way of getting them to stop, or do they pretty much do whatever the hell they want to do?
    Sorry! I'm kind of pissed off! NOT at you, of course, but at whoever it is that keeps unsubscribing me! You aren't the only one that keeps getting unsubscribed, either!

  • @elijahbrooks3271
    @elijahbrooks3271 Před 4 lety

    Anyone know where to get the bulkhead fittings? I found some on Amazon but I dont know how long they are. They don't look quite long enough

    • @quinn860
      @quinn860 Před 3 lety +1

      Try a hydraulic shop, i work replacing hydrauloc hoses on machine i have these in my van, there called extended bulkhead fittings

  • @pierees8038
    @pierees8038 Před 5 lety

    I'm looking to build a gas forge. Are you still offering the Venturi and gas jet set up?

  • @ronweber4508
    @ronweber4508 Před 5 lety

    What was the opening on the welding tip you used for your jet nozzle?
    If you said I’m not catching it.
    Thank you, nice build.

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety

      0.8 there's a link in the description for the right ones.

    • @michaelpichette4143
      @michaelpichette4143 Před 4 lety

      I believe the fractional conversion is the 0.030 size tip in the US

  • @Krzydud97
    @Krzydud97 Před 5 lety

    What MIG tip do I need to buy? If you gave a link to this, I would be grateful, thanks

    • @Krzydud97
      @Krzydud97 Před 5 lety

      i have a second question about bulkhead, how long it is ?

  • @ghostforge3303
    @ghostforge3303 Před 5 lety

    Have you looked into making a ribbon burner? "supposed" to be more fuel efficient......

  • @coffeesstudios2122
    @coffeesstudios2122 Před 5 lety

    Sure wish you had done this video a year ago. Bought two at $140 apiece. Live and learn.

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +1

      Sorry can you sned them back lol

    • @coffeesstudios2122
      @coffeesstudios2122 Před 5 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 hell know lol I love my burners. But I'm building three more forges, the burners will be a lot cheaper. Thanks for the great info.

  • @kamaysun4140
    @kamaysun4140 Před 3 lety

    Do you sell these forge burners complete in a kit?

  • @michaelblenkinsop6108
    @michaelblenkinsop6108 Před 5 lety

    Hi, have you got a link for the bulkhead fitting you used? Awesome work mate!

    • @1day129
      @1day129 Před 5 lety

      I've been looking too but i can only find 48mm long ones which are too small. not sure how to bypass this problem if i can't get one.

  • @GibClark
    @GibClark Před 5 lety

    Cool👍👍👍

  • @chrislawrence6015
    @chrislawrence6015 Před 5 lety

    Great vid mate but you can't beat the smell of a coal forge even though it is slowly killing me 😲

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety

      I know smells amazing. Love the smell of coke in the morning.

  • @ghostforge3303
    @ghostforge3303 Před 5 lety

    good demo Dan.... what was that black pipe called again??????

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +1

      It's a nipple and it's 1inch dia and 8inchs lol. So an 8inch black nipple.

  • @Marc-qo1gz
    @Marc-qo1gz Před měsícem

    Would you be willing to sell 2 of them I’m looking to upgrade my forge

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před měsícem

      Send me an email
      industrialartstudios@gmail.com

  • @kennybrooks4570
    @kennybrooks4570 Před 4 lety

    Anyone have any luck finding the bolkhead fitting?

  • @GStone-jl1ov
    @GStone-jl1ov Před 5 lety

    Dan have a look at amal burners I've got one that are brilliant only £40 and in UK😀

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety

      I will do your the second person to say that. Interesting stuff.

  • @lordzlomek
    @lordzlomek Před 4 lety

    Hi Daniel! Awesome video. I've just received my Venturi from China, want to get the rest of the parts. Could you tell me how long is that bulk head fitting of yours? Trying to find something locally. Thanks!

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 4 lety +1

      One side is the standard length and the other is 75mm long. I have some mods for these burner coming soon and I'll tie done the bulkhead fittings.

    • @lordzlomek
      @lordzlomek Před 4 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 Thanks for the really fast answer, Daniel. I'm having a hard time finding such a long fitting. Seems like they're hard to come by here in Poland. I was thinking maybe to use a steel pipe and make an external and internal thread but then the cost of the whole project will go up significantly.

    • @lordzlomek
      @lordzlomek Před 4 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 The longest ones I've found online are only 45 mm long on one end :(

    • @lordzlomek
      @lordzlomek Před 4 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 Hi Daniel! I think I might have found a proper bulkhead fitting here in Poland. If you have some time could you take a look at it? www.wszystkodlarolnictwa.pl/mini%20srebrny/shop/6624-93943-0-VNBSE04-Zlaczka-grodziowa-MM-dluga-14-BSP--14x14--14x14.html
      The longer thread is 45.5 mm long, it's manufactured by Burnett & Hillman. I've sent them an e-mail asking what's the overall length of the fitting, I guess it'll be around 60 mm or even more. Will that be enough?

  • @Krzydud97
    @Krzydud97 Před 5 lety

    What is the gas consumption of such a burner?

  • @rosstimmins76
    @rosstimmins76 Před 3 lety

    I've made this to your specs and when I light it the flame is bright yellow, I can wind the washer all the shut and back open and the flame does not change. Still yellow. Anyone got any ideas?

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 3 lety +1

      Send me an email with pictures of your set up and I'll see if I can help. If you copied this exactly then you should have the same results as me. You don't need the second flair to get a blue flame just a tube.

    • @rosstimmins76
      @rosstimmins76 Před 3 lety +1

      @@danielmoss2089 thank you very much, ive got a feeling I've screwed the fitting too far in, the mig tip looks to be a lot further inside than shown in your video. Il try and fiddle with it tomorrow and will let you know! Thanks for the quick reply!

    • @rosstimmins76
      @rosstimmins76 Před 3 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 I moved the mig tip and got a much better flame, it's not blue flame all the way but it's a massive improvement

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 3 lety

      @@rosstimmins76 I had to modify my tip to get the best results.

    • @rosstimmins76
      @rosstimmins76 Před 3 lety +1

      @@danielmoss2089 I have drilled it out and that seemed to help, thanks mate

  • @vins8647
    @vins8647 Před 5 lety

    I'm having a hard time finding the extra long 1/4 inch bulkhead fitting. Do you have any links for that? Thanks

    • @danielmoss2089
      @danielmoss2089  Před 5 lety +1

      I was having the same issue. I think I will be selling them as I can't guarantee the link will be right.

    • @vins8647
      @vins8647 Před 5 lety

      @@danielmoss2089 well I am definitely interested if you do. Please let me know or post something if you end up deciding to. Thanks

    • @mickcaulton001
      @mickcaulton001 Před 5 lety +1

      @@danielmoss2089 I know I commented my interest before if you are able to source all the parts in bulk and resell the individual parts either singularly or a a D.I.Y kit. . . If there are any developments I would be really grateful if I was able to be kept in the loop and the option to get in on this if and when they become available. Cheers Dan. Keep up the cracking job you been doing and love the fact you been helping at your local college and are now talking about running a class. Great to See someone wanting to pass on and give back from early in your career. Many people our there are to preoccupied building a business and bank balance to do what you are that is until they are looking for something new to do after retiring to keep busy. Any knowledge given back to students of the craft is great, no matter the teachers age or motivation but I think you are a good role model and inspiration to do that all on top of building a business. Throw on top running a CZcams channel providing good content and videography skills. . . . Bloody Good Show there . . . . Dan the Blacksmithin Man !!!