Flying Air Canada Rouge Premium Is A Big Mistake
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- Review of Air Canada 767-300 Rouge Premium from Toronto to Vancouver. This flight is the same price as Air Canada's lie-flat business class. Oops!
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Airline: Air Canada Rouge
Aircraft: Boeing 767-300WL
Aircraft registration: C-FMWY
Flight date: October 16, 2019
Route: Toronto - Vancouver
Flight numbers: AC1569
Seat: 1K
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American airlines : we make the worst meal presentation
British airways : hold our beer
Air Canada rouge : hold our maple syrup
Actually had a really tasty, nicely-presented meal with a super fresh, crisp salad on an AA 787 between Chicago and Barcelona last year, it was kind of shocking how good it was.
@Alfie Dixon - Yes, you're right, I am a US citizen, but if you're thinking I'm the type of person to just root for anything American indiscriminately, you'd be way off. Like I said, I was actually surprised AA was that good, given the reputation US airlines (even flag carriers) have had of late. I went on the flight because it was affordable; the trip was a codeshare and it was AA on the way there, and BA on the way back. It was the BA part I was more interested in.
I can probably be more critical of AA's breakfast on that same flight I had, actually. It was like "here's some cold packaged cookies, a tiny yogurt, and a tiny drip coffee. I was like, this isn't enough calories to keep me warm next to the window at 41,000 feet!
British Airways serves the best lunch and breakfast not dinner though
Alpha lol 😂
On the ground:
-'If there is anything I can do to make your flight more enjoyable just let me know'
In the air:
-'I'm freezing could I get a blanket?'
-'Who do you think you are?'
Maybe they should bring a sweater next time... i would assume it gets cold at 37,000 ft?
@@christiem25, the outside temperature can get to -60ºC at that altitude, and it's obviously not compatible with human life (though some Russians would disagree). The temperature inside the cabin depends on how the flight crew adjusts the air conditioning, but on a Canadian plane you wouldn't expect it to be very warm. Probably something between 15 and 20ºC (60-70ºF), which is pretty manageable outdoors but a bit uncomfortable already if you're indoors and inactive, or worse, sleeping, when your heat production decreases and so does the body temperature a bit.
Air Canada but Walmart edition😂😂😂
Fly in Economy for K-Mart Edition.
@@avgjoeavglife 9/11 edition 😂
@@avgjoeavglife oh shoot 7/11 not 9/11 😂
@@97Flyer Boi, that Rouge In-flight Catering must have got you.
@@97Flyer No, 7/11's too good, It's the Run Down Motel of Airlines.
Not a big flyer in Canada but really appreciate you taking one for the team. Big help for those of us unable to take the time to research every single carrier. Major thumbs up, Dan. Thank you.
As a Canadian, I'm SO angry you took Air Canada Rouge LOL. I could've warned you ahead of time! :)
Do you like Westjet
@@oneworldman0 West jet is at least a bit better with business class from Toronto to Vancouver!
Flew on air Canada rouge as a Canadian when i was a young child and uhh a five hour delay happened it sucked
@@oneworldman0 yes i like west jet
@@nickolashogg259 Delays aren't neccesarily the airlines fault.
Air Canada: Walmart Edition, yeah, that checks out lol. Part of the issue is that AC lost a ton of domestic capacity when the MAX was grounded, so they've had to use Rouge on some of domestic mainline routes, as opposed to the leisure destination flights you'd expect them on.
Agreed rouge was created to got to places like Lisbon or porto routes in demand but not enough that its economical to send parts of the main fleet. It was never ment to fly to places like Vancouver
Alex Praglowski Aviation air Canada started Rouge on multiple destinations before Max incident. Toronto to San Diego, Fort Lauderdale, Miami and Barcelona are all Rouge started as early as 2013. Before Max, the main difference is before Max were grounded, planes would charge outlets. Now they are using older planes and there are no outlets while you’re expected to use your own device for entertainment (I just did YYZ to MIA on Jan 15, 2020). Non-Rouge flights have newer planes (when I took YVR to YYZ in November 2019, the plane has individual entertainment screen for each passenger with 3,4,3 configuration)
hi
Walllllllllmarrrrt!!!
Congratulations! You've been "Rouged."
Bruce Murray: So has the viewer!!
Honestly I dont know what he expected its budget air Canada
I flew Rouge twice, with my family and it was a very good experience. From Toronto to Orlando and then from Miami back to Toronto. Both flights left on time, they were faster than expected and we had no problems with luggage. I would definitely fly Rouge again.
Yes, I flew AC Rouge to Cuba and return and it was perfectly OK. And I'm frequent flier, I fly a lot! I think that his expectations were set differently than they should be. AC Rouge Premium is NOT the same as AC Premium.
Im flying Air Canada from London Heathrow to Montreal and then air Canada rouge from Montreal to Orlando! Im hoping its alright ahah I go on Friday 31st :)
@@jaketaylor9961 my flight with Rouge from Toronto to Orlando was a night flight. It was very fast and smooth. The only bad thing is that their 767 do not have the entertainment that the new planes have. Everything else was perfect.
I'm surprised the crew didn't hand you a pack of playing cards for in-flight entertainment
Lol aircanada used to give out playing cards in the 90s I have a 3 decks i got when flying the gru-yyz route.
From what I have heard, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada should be considered two separate airlines.
Service wise
They should! Air Canada Rouge/Jazz/Express is just not the same as mainline AC. BNE-YVR-EWR is a great experience. BNE-YVR-YYZ-CVG goes from awesome to fine to god awful.
Agreed,...Air Canada is lacking,...Rouge is missing altogether.
2:47 ...is that...a kitten meowing?
Yes - Leftover from the dinner flight from Beijing.
First thanks for reminding me to load the Air Cattleprod app on my iPad. That way I don't need to use theirs.
Fair review. I fly Rouge often between YYZ and MCO and occasionally to DUB. If you go in with low expectations. You get what you expect.
In the non bulkhead seats there *generally* are slots to put the cover over the iPad in the seat in front so it hangs above the tray table.
There's a slot too on the wall in front of him to mount the ipad. All bulkhead seats had them installed over a year ago. For some reason he doesn't mention that in his review.
Christie 91 oh that's awesome. I've been mainly AA lately so haven't seen that.
Dan, first off: Yes boy, spill that tea lmao. Second, it would definitely be a little helpful if Air Canada could be assertive in distinguishing and advertising how Rouge is their no frills low cost carrier compared to their standard "Air Canada" which leads to my next point.
Airline compamies labeling things such as "Premium" especially in a low cost carrier seems to be a big no-no in my book. It's like a dollar store selling a premium version of dollar store toilet paper.
Informative video as always Dan. Thank you for the hard work and effort you put in to this amazing channel.
GOTTA SAY.....Air Canada staff at Calgary were the absolute best! Helped me out big time.
The presentation of that meal! 😂
I just love your videos. I binge them every day, rewatch my favorites, and wait very non patiently for new ones! Thank you for putting out such great content! Plus you’re so adorable to watch
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Air Canada Rouge is really aimed at the budget traveller. It really is one of those 'you get what you pay for' deals. One some routes you have no choice like to the Caribbean, although they do fly on some Transatlantic routes which are more 'touristy'. I find Air Canada's Business Class to be just as good as most of the European carrier I've flown in the last few year. I have 2 long hauls coming up with them and really looking forward to both.
TIP: Air Canada almost never offers award space on their real Signature Class (business class) flights with lie-flat seats between Vancouver and Toronto vice versa! When redeeming an award ticket, ALWAYS try to use Air Canada's Aeroplan miles as they allow passengers who are booked on a business class award to do a "same day change/standby" for a flight which the aircraft is equipped with their Signature Class. You cannot do the same when redeeming through the frequent flyer programs of other Star Alliance carriers.
Oliver is so lucky. Dan is BEAUTIFUL. That husky voice always thrills me.
I have flown with Air Canada Rouge a few times now in business class and loved my experience. Our flight attendant Sarah was just amazing and definitely made the experience awesome! :)
Dan - thank you for the review. I fly both Rouge and Air Canada frequently and what you portray in the review, is from my perspective, indicative of both AC brands.
I love flying on older planes like the 767. I just wish the food was better on this flight though.
Dude I love flying on them as well! It's a much better fate for them flying in rouge then immediately getting scraped. Honestly warms my heart
Lucas Fragoso definitely agree
The presentation of the meal reminds me of murder scene in those crime movies.
Daniel, I've been flying Air Canada Rouge twice (in economy). I have to say it's been two of the best flights I ever had! For being a low cost carrier, they do a great job! Just look at their in flight cafe offerings. It's amazing! As a fellow Swede, I compare with our state owned brand, SAS, who offers an expensive sandwich as its most. Air Canada Rouge has so many nice snacks, meal packages, drinks etc. Pretty affordable too. I wouldn't hesitate to fly with them again! Ha en trevlig resa! 😃
Celebrity dream Low-cost? I have found Rouge to be identically priced to Air Canada mainline.
If you ever fly Rouge Premium again, the back of every seat and on the bulkhead there is a spot to hang up the I Pad so you don’t have to put it on your tray! :) Rouge has been taking over a lot of routes for mainline during the grounding of the MAX so that would be why that lady was rebooked with Rouge!
Just when we thought Air Canada couldn't get any worse, we discovered Air Canada Rouge.
um rouge was never "discovered" it was imposed
I AM CANADIAN!
Yea Rouge is a scam lol. It’s a “best to avoid” here
Simply hilarious "Walmart Edition". After this review, I'll never fly Rouge.
Bay Area Traveler: I will never watch another video of Dans.
Walllllllllmarrrrt!!!
The blanket thing.... come on 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🥶
I heard Air New Zealand has a new premium cabin with memory foam mattresses. Maybe you could test that one out, Dan.
I flew Air Canada Rouge once from Toronto YYZ to Ft Lauderdalde Florida, the experience was not that bad. I would recccomend it if you just wanna go from A to B with no hassle.
2:23
My dads a Captain on the A320 Fam at Air Canada Rouge. Not worth working at that airline. But I went to work with him and I gotta say probably the best flight I’ve ever had. The FA gave me all the leftover candy after we landed 😂🍭🍭🍭
We recently flew with Air Canada and Rouge. For us Rouge was much better.
Your connecting flight is with ANA because they are a star alliance member, just like Air Canada.
Very entertaining and informative as always, Dan! As someone who generally flies Star Alliance carriers globally - mostly out of necessity - based on their reputation, or lack thereof, I always avoid Air Canada flights. Even if it costs me more money to take, say, Lufthansa or United. As such, I'm very interested to see your review of a regular Air Canada flight to see if my bias is justified! Thanks and keep up the good work!
I have flown all cabins with Air Canada and Air Canada Rouge. Rouge is mediocre at best. I usually consider it a success if we get from point a to point b but there's really no luxury in premium economy versus regular economy aside from the cutlery you're given to eat your food. I think you'll enjoy the Air Canada business/first class experience, especially on their Dreamliner plane. The seats has massage features, which are amazing. The food service is much better than what you got here and the beds are relatively comfy. It probably won't compete with some of the luxury middle eastern airlines but it's decent.
I stay away from AC and Rouge. I started using Condor from Phx to Fra this summer and was positively surprised.
The *only* way to travel from Toronto to Vancouver is on VIA Rail's "Canadian"!
how long does it take to travel ?
@@chrischolewa9104 I think on the website it says like 3 or 4 days maybe 2
@@chrischolewa9104 It's like 4 nights. All food is freshly cooked on the train; it's lovely.
@@lenaweerailfan8162 Yeah, isn't it like $5k?
@@BrooklinFunkProject I paid under $1000 during a fare sale, including sleeper and meals.
Air Canada Rouge uses older planes, hence the "retro" bins.
Thanks for your honest, comprehensive comments. It is appreciated that you are sensitive to those around you. Please keep flying.
Normal AirCanada Economy is brilliant 100% recommend
It sure is brilliant, provided you've had both of your legs amputated and you're in a coma.
dshepherd1978 man up princess
It was good on the 787-9 I haven’t tried any other Air Canada economy
dshepherd1978 dying but sadly that sounds about right. 🤣
on the 777 Economy was pretty decent...but if you eat a lot, bring a snack. Lone complaint.
Hey Dan, Canadian here and yes we love to hate AC 😅. I flew AC Rouge ONCE and never ever again. It truly is the Walmart of flying. Good analogy. I’ve also been told you have to pay for a blanket. 🙄
Does that mean Your Face turned 'Rouge' after reviewing the Airline?😂
Anyways a Good And Honest Review!👍
I feel that I walked into the 1970's genoration of traveling!!
Flew a few times on " mainline " Air Canada from Ottawa to China ( via Toronto or Vancouver or Montreal ) and did not have any major problems. If you think Air Canada Rouge is bad try flying economy on United Airlines from the USA to China.
haven't ever flown rouge but so glad it's now defunct since it used to fly long haul to athens and croatia. ATH has since been replaced with two daily 77Ws which is a massive upgrade.
I have flown the 767 rouge and 787 air Canada and they were both great
Living your best life Dan, so happy for you 😭🙏🏽
Let’s see, I have no idea where to begin with this comment. All of it was very nasty. The ancient airplane, the looks of the (frozen) food, the iPad with the stains all over the cover, and the fact that your seat neighbor couldn’t even get a blanket! And all for the same price as a lie flat seat with Air Canada? What is wrong with Rouge?! Now I’m really happy that I’m an American Airlines One World girl! Thanks for another awesome review Dan, and sorry you had to go through that horror for all of us.❤️👍✈️
Very old and retro, but you have to admit, that the 767 is badass plane
That finger print of sauce on the plate, really brings me back.
2:50 is that a cat lmao?
I travel frequently on Air Canada signature lie flat and I just love it and the service is amazing ! London, paris and especially The Japanese crew when flying to HND
Thanks for this, I’ve always wondered what rouge was all about and thought of flying it for my first trip to Canada. I’ll take American or Delta!
I am a Canadian and I totally agree I HATE Air Canada rouge but I love air Canada
I have flown once on Rouge and was sorely disappointed. The crew are the only positive. I’m looking forward to your Air Canada review!
I’m a Canadian fan. And Air Canada a big meeeeh and AC rouge is truely trash! Westjet is better
You should try regular Air Canada a220 and the 787 in business class, you should also try WestJet on the 737 and 787 in premium/business class
Ahahahah I warned youuu!! 😂 time to review the real stuff - air Canada business :))
You should fly WestJet Dreamliner
When I flew to Tokyo I went on Air Canada Rouge A321 in Premium Rouge then I went on their 777 in Signature .
I have flown air Canada Rouge and thought it was fine
Same here
Did you ever fly Canadi>n before it got absorbed?
Ok so I flew air Canada and air canada rouge before and my experiences were ok(in economy) and I’ve watched a lot of videos saying that air Canada isn’t the best airline. I respect the opinions of everyone but being Canadian, I can agree that air Canada could improve on some aspects. However I think that it’s a great airline to represent a country like Canada 🇨🇦❤️
This route is a mainline Air Canada Route. So to be fair these routes were turned to Air Canada Rouge because of the 737 Max jet issue and normal AC mainline flights will hopefully return next year. Air Canada Rouge is a budget/discount line. Those 767's are really really old and should have been put out of service. Those old 767 Rouge planes are horrific. Mainline Air Canada is much better. Rouge was designed for leisure routes not regular service.
Travel back in the day used to be where you only carried on stuff that you wanted to use on the flight like some reading material, toiletries, a jacket, and maybe some underwear. Bins then didn’t need to be that big.
I have flown Rouge, and have nothing but positive experiences, roomier than any Sunwing or Transat flight I have been on, and the staff was amazing!!!! The staff on both Sunwing and Transat were equally as good, just the planes a bit more cramped.
Thanks for the tip about not selecting a bulkhead seat! Actually if you sit on the rows behind there is a slot where you can put your ipad on the seatback in front if you.
oh my gosh the frozen carrots in a plastic bag. IDK why but that made me laugh quite hard. its so cold in that bag that if you look closely you can see Olaf running towards you to retrieve his nose back
I’m gonna take a quick guess and say that you’re gonna fly ANA to Tokyo and then Korean Air to Seoul.
He was on a Star Alliance ticket, so probably ANA all the way.
Goytá F. Villela Jr. could fly Asiana
Shabbir Naqvi Ahh I never thought of that dude. Yeah, probably gonna fly Asiana.
@@shabbirnaqvi1344, it's definitely NOT Asiana. Daniel wrote in the caption at 9:16 that "one of these is my connecting aircraft." There are four planes there: a Cathay Pacific, an ANA, a Korean Air and a JAL. No Asiana plane there, so it's ruled out. It could be Korean, but it's Skyteam. It could also be JAL (via Tokyo), but it's Oneworld. Hong Kong would be a too long detour to connect from Vancouver to Seoul, and Cathay is Oneworld, so it's the least likely. It could be any of the other three, but ANA (via Tokyo) is the most likely because it's Star Alliance. Daniel also said he could get this (not so) premium seat at no extra cost because his connecting flights (plural) would also be on business class. That would only be possible in the same alliance. So, everything ponts to ANA.
@@goytabr It's entirely possible he's flying to Tokyo with ANA and then onto Seoul with Asiana?
Flown Rouge several times r/t YVR-PHX with no issue. But this upcoming trip has been switched from AC to be operated by Omni Air, an American airline under an AC flight number.
Dan, Premium Rouge is exactly the same as Air canada north American business class. Same catering, same blanket policy (pillows are free but you if you want a blanket u gotta pay for a kit which includes multiples articles $$), drinks, snack basket, etc. The only different thing would be that you get an iPad instead of the screen. In certain areas rouge is better because they get exclusive spirits that ac doesn't have on their north american/sun destinations. However, you are 100% right that the limited routes in north america that operated by a widebodied mainline aircraft will be better. Most YYZ-YVR are operated by narrow bodied AC aircrafts and would feature the same business class seats and service as Rouge.
Hope you enjoyed Canada!
PS- just waiting for my ‘fly’ t-shirt to come in the mail! Looking forward to wearing it on my next trip!
Flight attendant: let me know if there's anything i can do to make ur flight better...
Business passenger: i'd like to have a blanket please
FA: no not that
Flown Rouge a few times for me. Short flights I'm okay with. Did a YVR to Osaka flight pre-COVID and it was absolutely horrible. Didn't even get a warm meal. The seats on Rouge on the narrow-body aircraft are also very tight.
doesnt the 767 300er have winglets and the 767 300 doesnt? that wing flex tho
Air Canada is amazing I've flown with them many times
Fly Air Canada Signature Business Class on their 787s (newer product). I've flown between Vancouver and Toronto many times on Air Canada with pleasant experiences and internationally multiple times as well, but never on Rouge. I was able to try their new business class product on Air Canada's 777-300ER so I would recommend reviewing that one. My only flight with Rouge was from Cancún to Toronto which went as expected for a rouge flight.
9:11 that landing was butter 🧈
Pretty sure the next flight from Vancouver to Tokyo is on ANA.
1. Booked with SAS, the itinerary should be with Star Alliance.
2. The only possible transfer flight when AC arrived in Vancouver for Tokyo is ANA, as JAL is leaving very soon after, along with Korean Air. ACs Tokyo flight left long ago.
Uh.....gee whiz, Dan! I'm practically speechless! I've been on RJ200 bulkheads that have more room than that, and I’m only 5'4"! I'm amazed you were able to walk after being crammed into that seat for four hours. I was enjoying a salad while watching your report, but when I saw what you were trying to choke down, I had to stop and reach for a Tums.(shudder!) I couldn't believe they were going to charge that poor woman for a measly blanket! I hadn't heard of Air Canada's Rouge line before now. Thanks to you, I'm avoiding it like the plague!
American's presentation of pasta dishes in domestic first class is much better than AC Rouge.
Now, fruit on AA in first can be incredible. Or it can be picked too soon and hard. But I've never had frozen fruit.
I can 100% relate to this flight review 😊
I've never flown rouge, but my mom flew with them from YYZ to ATH and they ran out of food. I've been avoiding air canada in general like the plague for the last 10 years. Though I just flew with them (normal AC) recently from AMS to YYZ in economy, the flight was good, service friendly, and decent food. The IFE was also seatback mounted, but yea I'd maybe fly rouge on the odd short haul, it's budget airline quality for legacy airline prices.
finally someone who understands the pain of air Canada economy
flew air Canada rouge to cuba last week, find it ok, we traveled the last 7 years and it was first time on ACR, only thing they should get is screens in seats , for use us its fine as our son has ipads and other video games to keep us busy.
The connection flight is The ANA 787-9 headed of to Tokyo HND
That blanket situation is just ridiculous. I've had to endure the same thing on planes before and it was not a great feeling.
Hi Dan - thanks for your review! I just wanted to add that my experiences with Rouge thus far have been a little more positive. I am very blessed that I can take "premium rouge." Is it he BEST? Well, no. But it does come with a host of perks like lounge access, 150% aeroplan points, 2x2 seating (which is a big deal to my partner and I). The flights in the bulkhead YYZ-PSP-YYZ don't have the legroom shortage (which would be annoying) that you illustrated. all in all its comfortable. I do not envy the folks sitting in economy. The dedicated lav for 24 people isn't so bad, given the only other ones serve the rest of the plane (a lot more than 48 people!) and are located at the back. Right now Air canada has the only direct flight YYZ-PSP which I travel a lot (why WestJet discontinued its direct service (collusion) I'll never know. But if you want to get certain places, direct, from YYZ, AC Rouge is only choice. Premium just makes it a bit better. Keep up the great work, Dan!
The food presentation wasn't good at all! I didn't expect that.
You get what you pay for - it’s the budget airline of Canada
It's worse than the budget ones. Like swoop and flair are arguably better.
Not for western Canada, - Westjet is by far the budget airline of choice.
The mainline air canada is trash too like most north american based airlines
Air Canada Signature long haul is outstanding, just flew YVR-ZRH 787-8 seat 1K and FRA-YVR 787-9 3A. Both flights exceptional, food, seat, service crew, complete 180 from AC Rouge far better than LH Business long-haul mostly due to the 1-2-1 configuration and outstanding seat. AC Rouge is a discount arm, don't expect much more, 'it is what it is' and your report was about what I'd expect. AC Rouge is being deployed on routes like YYZ-YVR 100% due to the MAX groundings, AC is doing the best it can as it's the most, per-capita affected airline in the world by the MAX groupings, it got screwed by boeing so kudos to them for keeping the frequencies up.
I have also flown Air Canada rouge Boeing 767-300 from Las Vegas to Toronto and economy. Seated second last row left-hand side.
That bulkhead was ridiculous.
Try Air Canada Executive Class on an international flight with the pods (eg. YVR to SYD). Really great!
I always check seatguru before making my seat selection! Looking on there, it does say the bulkhead seats have far less legroom
Air Canada is usually a superb choice for flying, a lot of Canadians say its bad because we only have 2 major airlines.
This is the thing with air Canada. They fill there planes TO THE BRIM. I went on air Canada in 2018 from Toronto to Dubai then back from Dubai to Toronto on a triple 7 and they were fully booked. I went on Toronto to Montreal early this year on a 737max8 and it was full. And a Boeing triple 7 from Toronto to Qatar wich was also full
Welcome to Vancouver, my hometown! I've never flown air Canada rouge, but I fly air Canada a lot. Everyone complains about delays, but I don't usually get them.
Rouge is a different airline. treat it like Sunwing. Most domestic flights are way better than US carriers. AC business to Hong Kong is 100% on par with Cathay business. Sleep pods are great.
Try Air Canada from Brussel to Montreal with the 787-9!!