Nietzsche 2/13: Bataille

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  • čas přidán 22. 09. 2016
  • Denis Hollier, Rosalind Morris, and Anthony Vidler on Georges Bataille, on Nietzsche.

Komentáře • 37

  • @evanjack958
    @evanjack958 Před 3 lety +16

    Everytime I come back to this video every few months I understand more and more and see more of the smaller details. I remember watching this for the first time in the summer of 2020

  • @celestialteapot3310
    @celestialteapot3310 Před 6 lety +41

    People who work in offices and collages get really really thirsty and need little plastic bottles of water.

  • @janllh24
    @janllh24 Před 5 lety +15

    Shocked that a lecture series devoted to readers of Nietzsche couldn't find space for a session on Klossowski

    • @etreoreste5775
      @etreoreste5775 Před 4 lety +1

      Actually, they could and should devoted some time on Klossowski in this conference on Bataille, since these two figures are very closely associated. The problem of having an entire session on Klossowski is that, in my opinion, either there aren't much scholars out there are "specialized" in Klossowski (though I believe Hollier should be very familiar with Klossowski) or that the discussion on Klossowski's Nietzsche will Inevitable turn itself into a vicious circle: the discussion on "eternal return" - one of the most overly discussed invention by Nietzsche. I believe the best way is to put Klossowski in context with Bataille, focusing on the reason for their unique interest in Nietzsche's writing during the great war.

    • @janllh24
      @janllh24 Před 3 lety

      Perhaps, though I maybe Deleuze would be a more appropriate site to locate Klossowski; especially since the latter would disown his early writings on Nietzsche in favour of the reading he'd develop in parallel to Deleuze's. I've read that Klossowski and Bataille were somewhat unsympathetic to their respective postwar intellectual trajectories.

  • @Mas-ec9ci
    @Mas-ec9ci Před 7 lety +6

    this was great, I hope there is a discussion on Artaud soon

  • @olliewargoat219
    @olliewargoat219 Před 4 lety +10

    What Holler should have said was "Bataille's relationship IN Nietzsche". Nick Land's Thirst for Annihilation is the greatest work to achieve exactly what Bataille's book on/with Nietzsche. Not a work ON Bataille/Nietzsche but a work as/in complete communion with Bataille/Nietzsche

    • @etreoreste5775
      @etreoreste5775 Před 4 lety +4

      That was Land's first book, and his best vision. After which it all went downhill, just my opinion.

    • @valeriexvegan
      @valeriexvegan Před 2 lety

      @@etreoreste5775 i often say it’s the only Land worth reading. almost everything else is… not good

    • @lambda113
      @lambda113 Před 2 lety +1

      @@valeriexvegan a few fanged noumena essays are decent

  • @ians.mozdzen3012
    @ians.mozdzen3012 Před 2 lety +7

    In Guilty and in Unfinished System Bataille talks directly to me (us). Like a lightning bolt. Anyone else experience this? Bataille is a Fakir. A Mystic. Like Artaud. It illuminates without.

  • @clumsydad7158
    @clumsydad7158 Před rokem

    Bataille, Nietzsche, and Heidegger ... I'm there !!!

  • @avanteguard882
    @avanteguard882 Před 4 lety +1

    so good.

  • @tiodeleve
    @tiodeleve Před měsícem

    Besides KOOLHAAS, what other architect Vidler mentions?

  • @sucotang3511
    @sucotang3511 Před 2 lety +1

    This lady have a really beautiful voice , its also really ironical the contrast with the stuff that she is talking about.

  • @jamesnilphat1148
    @jamesnilphat1148 Před 4 lety +1

    1:49 voice cracked

  • @augustomonterorazo6482
    @augustomonterorazo6482 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Like si vienes por la clase de Harold

  • @sayakchatterjee4454
    @sayakchatterjee4454 Před 4 lety

    I dont quite understand the grounds of morris’ criticisms. No evidence is presented in support of quite critical readings and intense acquisitions

  • @user-uu5jf3jo3o
    @user-uu5jf3jo3o Před 4 lety +2

    I have a situationist question, here: "Do they go to church?"

  • @clumsydad7158
    @clumsydad7158 Před rokem

    'detumescence' ... man needs a state of play - if not propelled and invigorated toward the good, the cesspool of rot will creep in and we will follow any belligerently toxic fool

  • @fluxnfiction5559
    @fluxnfiction5559 Před 4 lety +5

    so am I supposed to understand anything?

    • @ians.mozdzen3012
      @ians.mozdzen3012 Před 2 lety +4

      Good lord. Why come to a lecture and then say such a thing. Assume others have a life outside of your own.

    • @LethalBubbles
      @LethalBubbles Před 11 měsíci

      tldr; "nazis are bad and got nietzsche wrong. Here is the background of some of arguments people have previously used to illustrate this point and clarifications of some of the teachings"

    • @robnaugle4149
      @robnaugle4149 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah a lot of this is impenetrable. Frankly I get the feeling that you need to huff quite a few of your own farts to "understand" a lot of this ideologically driven commentary.

  • @OtherSideOfTheVoid
    @OtherSideOfTheVoid Před 6 lety +1

    he wasn't crazy, a nitzschean religion is valid and i would follow it......can't be any worse than scientology or freemasonry (same thing)

    • @sucotang3511
      @sucotang3511 Před 2 lety

      Its called catholicism

    • @thelasttruegamer2221
      @thelasttruegamer2221 Před 2 lety

      @@sucotang3511 explain?

    • @sucotang3511
      @sucotang3511 Před 2 lety

      @@thelasttruegamer2221 i dont remember the context. But i guess the religion that turns you into a superhuman and shit and it is such a difficult task to follow and still respect the individual aspect of each human being is catolicism. In some sense of its ascetism it could be called i guess

    • @thelasttruegamer2221
      @thelasttruegamer2221 Před 2 lety

      @@sucotang3511 what? You are aware that what you are saying is controversial correct? Nietzsche argues strongly against Christianity

    • @sucotang3511
      @sucotang3511 Před 2 lety

      @@thelasttruegamer2221 whatever

  • @patrickbertlein4626
    @patrickbertlein4626 Před rokem +1

    Why is he pronouncing it like "niche"?! That irritates me so badly! I just looked up more sources despite having a German mother and asking others/the internet how to pronounce it a hundred times before, just to make sure I wasn't being a dumbass again, and no!! It is NOT pronounced like how Bernard says it, at all!

    • @patrickbertlein4626
      @patrickbertlein4626 Před rokem

      She did it too!!!! WHY??!!! Okay done with this I have plenty to read on him as it is. Everything is absurd!

    • @LethalBubbles
      @LethalBubbles Před 11 měsíci

      french pronoucian I think. Kinda like how you can say the name of the car, 'Porche' as "Portia" or "Porsh"