Klipsch Heresy IV Review w/ Upscale Audio's Kevin Deal
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"You just can't help smile and have a good time with these speakers," says Kevin. The Heresy III was so damn good, and the IV is even better. A rear port adds efficiency, and a larger cabinet makes sure bass stays deep. Sensitive, with a great midband--these speakers are a perfect match for quiet, high bandwidth tube amp such as PrimaLuna.
Glad to see you still have a business and are able to create content. Great video, thank you
If Vikings had stereo systems, this is what they would have in the Mead Hall! Love mine
In the early 1970's I had a roommate in college that had a pair of Heresy speakers with a Phase Liner 700 putting out 350 watts per channel. He would play Quadorphenia and the neighbors would come out of their apartment to see if there was a storm coming.
I wish I was there to experience that moment in time!
I love your enthusiasm! It's infectious and i now want these!!!
Paired with a good tube amplifier, in my case a Line Magnetic 211 iA, the Heresy IV is an absolute dream team. This plastic openness and transparency in the mid-high range is unique. I like listening to live recordings, you can literally reach into the stage.
The audiophile virtues such as resolution, localization and spatiality are also at a very high level with the Heresy IV.
Other loudspeakers, even high-quality ones, often bored me relatively quickly, but this is completely different with the Heresy IV, these are captivating and you feel like you are right in front of the stage.
You definitely shouldn't let the Klipsch haters stop you from listening to this phenomenal speaker, it's absolutely worth it.
I recently restored a pair of 1971 H700 Heresy Speakers and gave then the "Super Heresy" mods: An Eminence Delta Pro 12A woofer, 4" Bass Reflex port in the rear and the creme de la creme, a sMAHL tweeter horn with a B&C DE120 Neodymium driver. The results have been nothing short of transformational and I've no doubt these are too, when compared to previous iterations!
Good video Kevin, and I'm not a huge fan. I'm a fan of Klipsch and low power tube amps, like under 10 watts. I say this with a smile on my face and kindness, I always remembered talking to you on the phone about 12 years ago, when I mentioned SET amps and high sensitivity speskers you told me "you don't know what you're talking about". Bygones my friend, we are on the same team. All of us have great music. Thanks for the vid!
Hello What about SET amps and high sensitivity speakers ? Thanks
Im still very happy with the sound from my 1975 Heresy H 100 speakers, never to be traded
Re-upload? Oh, well, will have to watch it again! :D
Beautimus! I would really like to have these. Love Klipsch! I am ashamed that I have strayed, but it is time to come back home.
I don't like the port, but it probably works better for conventional setups. Sealed box Heresy are meant to be placed in the corners, on the low angled stands. In the right room, they produce jaw dropping bass. The corner placement and low, angled stand tame the "shrill" high end by mostly eliminating direct wall & floor reflections.
Live music is about imperfections...that's wut makes the performance unique and different!
A car engine is generally held to broken in at 1000 miles. A car running 60 mph, a mile a minute, at 2000 rpms will make 2,000,000 turns in 1000 miles. A tweeter operating at 10khz will make 36,000,000 cycles in an hour. Draw your own conclusions about long break in times.
Great review! The pinky-out audiophile---LOL!
Kevin Deal is the Ron Popiel of Audio🤣
Hahahaha I like you man. Thinkinking about getting a pair of these
Mine were easy to set up in my room. Not complicated. 9 feet apart, slightly toed into the listening spot 14 feet away. Bliss. Maybe a few hours of break-in - not 500!
I agree with you that they sound great anywhere, but the sound does change a lot given placement from walls and toe in angle. I prefer mine toed in less than I would have expected. They sound better with room to breath, rather than aimed at the listener.
14 feet? Christ you should have gotten Cornwalls
@@CJL36
So toed out a bit from listener ? I have mine 2 ft off ground , tilted and mid's pointing directly at my ears. I am unable to bring out from wall other than the toe in ( 8" on each outside) I thought sealed backs wouldn't be an issue for closeness to wall?
Pointing directly at listener or toed out a bit ?
@@bigsled12 Just toed in a few degrees from the wall. I’ve always wanted to experiment with raising them off the floor but I haven’t purchased stands yet. Also, you must not have the Heresy IV because they are not sealed in the back.
It took them ONLY 63 years to get them right. I ordered a pair in walnut. Going to be buddies with a sub.
Speaker break in confuses me. I bought some B&W 702's which sounded much better after a few days and even B&W say they only need 15 hours running in time but almost everyone on the internet says 100,150 hours...i just don't see what there is to break in for that long. If a driver was so badly constructed that it's still changing form after 150 hours surely it won't stop there and will fall apart eventually?
Any advice on this?
Think about the driver as a membrane. As it extends and contracts repeatedly the resistances on the surround loosen up, the bass gets cleaner and faster and the bass and the treble blends better. You should be able to tell the difference in about three days of burn in material. The most dramatic changes can happen in the first half of break in....even my personal PA speakers sound completely different now after two years of being constantly on. Same for all the speakers we have.
@@joshuasterling2144 Thanks for the explanation. I should have been clearer - I can see the break in happening over a few days listening but people claiming 150 hours listening (30 days at 5 hours a day!) are surely wrong.
funny how he disses the Cary SLI-80HS, but proceeds to post pictures of it.
Love these
Great video!
Would you recommend these speakers in a small room 12’D x 10’W x 9’H ?
Yes!
What’s the best receiver in the $1000 range. I have Heresy 3’s and will buying RP600’s and possibly one SPL 100. Thanks.
are there other speakers in same price range that can sound just as good without needing "perfect" placement in "perfect" room? these sound like great speakers but only if in perfect position. are there other speakers that are more forgiving in placement n still sound great?
The need for a perfect room, is often, bad off axis response. These certainly qualify.
@@wa2368 jbl speakers are made in Indonesia.
Would you rather these or the Rialto's
Hoped this was a comparison to the Tannoys. Any ideas about those?
Haha, @ the haircut story. Good times.
Hi, can i pair it with NAD M10 V2 and still put out a good sound?
Little sandwiches and tea ... Lol😂.
Enjoying my Primaluna Prologue.
Klipsch heresy 4 or the klipsch RF7 3? Which is the better speaker? Opinions?
Great review. Hoping to pick up a pair of these at some point soon. Does anyone have a list of the exact tube amps he recommended with these? Still deciding on a good amp to pair them with.
Hey Kevin you have Klipschorn ak6 & (primaluna evo 400 power amp dedicated review too plss) with you then you should really do a review of those i don't think thers any great reviews of those.. And also some kind of the horn design explanation for beginners like us will help alot... Would be really appreciated.. Love your pure real world reviews .. ❤️
Thank you. Im tired of idiots saying speakers do not need to break in.
They don't.
How do the Heresy’s compare to the Lintons?
The H4s will be rocking while the other speakers are just getting started.
@@mdr4670 What does this even mean?
How would these compare to the wharfedale linton heritage?
Yes and fun speaker. 3750€ for a pair that's no fun.
Ten years ago I could get new B-Stock Heresy 3s for a grand
What is a good tube amp to go with these speakers for a great quality sound, which also looks good too?
Is there enough difference between Klipsch RP-280F vs Klipsch Heresy IV for the price?
very curious to know this also. Im thinking of making this exact upgrade
Chris Larson thank you so much. Needed to hear this, making my upgrade soon...
Wait... what...?
get me a pair of Tannoy Arden MK1 or 2❓
With upgraded crossover there is no need to run these with tube amps anymore.
Correct, they have the la scala crossovers in them now. Vintage Marantz recommended
Saying that a speaker needs 500 hours to stop sounding like crap is the biggest crock of salesman shit I've ever heard. Real data continually shows that break-in is a myth.
zen triode with those or the forte. 2.3 watts is all you need
Wait...Paul Klipsch wore cologne?? 😁
Is break in a real thing?? I've read other articles where that not true. So what's the truth?
Obviously he thinks it is
Cupped hands coloration, weird timbral things going on through the midrange, a PA-like shoutiness, soundstage imprecise and low to the floor... they're all still there in this speaker. BUT they're more neutral and full sounding than previous versions of this speakers. And yes I auditioned with a turntable and a tube amp.....
Was considering using this as a center channel with my Cornwalls behind an AT screen but that rear port killed it. Maybe an RC64-iii is the way to go?
This is not for people who eat little sandwiches. Lol!
I owned a pair of thouse a bit ago they use electro voice drivers the only thing is EV kind of cheaply made the drivers the ledgendary cast drivers disapeared on home hi fi cast on more expensive EV theatre or stage speaker monitors there still used in the music industry i sold my Heresy s back to the store i bought them mostly i bought them for the drivers but they just didnt have the balls of EV s ledgendary cast speakers from the past i want fell it in my heart the pressure of sound and will make your home vibrate if u ever here a old speaker from EV back in the day they made some very nice speakers they even had one that had a 30 inch woofer yeah 30 inch speaker they where built for theatres very loud mind blowing i dont think any one will be able to build a speaker better then klipsch ever that s just the way he is he is like the Tesla of speakers lol , mark my words .
Sorry. Not a fan. To me, the upper midrange is too shouty and a bit rough around the edges + the bass is a bit dry and limited. Off topic: despite your mocking, “Imaging” is not a curse nor is it a snobbish audiophile’s fad. Imaging gives depth of stage. Nothing wrong with that. And off topic: You can still smile with Westlake Audio speakers which are quite dynamic and have the jump factor, despite the fact that 3watts per channel wouldn’t cut it. Mind you, these Klipsch would do better with more power than people think they need, despite their 99dB efficiency. How do I know? I tried it. To each his own.
I have a 8 watts 6l6 tube class A amp !!!
500 hours! BAwhahahahahaha
Love these videos. Does klipsch Heresy III still have their own merits? Or is it so blown out the water by the Klipsch IV, that it shouldn’t really be considered as a strapped for cash option? :)
dude I bought the IIIs over the IVs because I didn't want a ported speaker
@@user-ex9zm7bg3x Same here, i wanted a sealed box. Got a pair of some last model III's new, around a year ago here in Europe, was hard to find. Nicely Integrated subwoofer to handle below 50-40Hz (the last octave), and sounds great !
@@johto I have the iii's too .Any recommendations on subs and does it matter /needed for Rock and Roll, Metal, Folk/Indie and, heavy vocal genres ?
Beautiful speakers was not a fan of the 3s, I would to give these a listen to see if they sound better to my ear
bUT kEVEN YOU HAVE no hAIR TO cUT
Thivan Labs Eros 9 vs Klipsch Forte IV (3)
Kevins wife is hot. Why does that anger me
Not. A. Review.
wait...........I just got a whiff of Old Spice
It's about time you play some music in the gear you review, otherwise what's the point?
If you had good gear, and you would record it, you would know how pointless it is.
@@BastianUllr the sound you hear will be first recorded by a worse microphone then compressed to youtube and then be played on the system you have what will be worse than this 99% of the time :DDD
An amazing sound, filtering though a swizzle stick, digitized, compressed and farted back at you on speakers that are not Klipsch Heresy IVs (otherwise why are you here?) -- I mean I get it, some reviewers do it anyway and I SUPPOSE you can get something of an impression of what they might be like in person, in the same way you can see a 150dpi photo of the Sistine Chapel and get an impression of what it might be like to stand in the presence of it. I suppose that's why there's a money back guarantee.
Like you can tell anything from that!
I need sound demo to confirm everything said...
Many PA speakers will crush these.
Ummm..No, maybe in power but PA speakers are designed to scream and have a forward sound.
Moron comment #2
@@angelotig Not necessarily. Take motion picture theater speakers for instance. And most such speakers are built with higher quality drive units than Klipsch uses; take the old Altec VoTs for an example and the original Altec drivers now made by Great Plains Audio. You see many Klipschies modifying their speakers by replacing the drivers and horns with Altec and JBL Pro drivers, you never see Altec and JBL hornies replacing parts with Klipsch parts, though they often go back and forth using Altec, JBL and Emilar parts.
These are a ''sort of'' a pair of PA speakers as well , as they have as components a cheap steel stamped basket Eminence woofer (more likely a guitar cabinet 12" woofer ) , a Celestion Driver and tweeter , not worth more than 500 USD a pair ( in components and materials used to build them , the crossover has cheap components as well ) , there is a video with the insides of a pair of cornwall 4's , if you watch that , you will see EXACTLY what i am talking about , for that price range , better opt for a pair of ATC's !!
Lacking in the bass department
Oh shit she shaved you totally bald.
Hahaha pinky out audiophiles are the worst. Sorry not sorry.
Klipsch engineering : gain 10hz on the bottom end by changing the measurement criteria from +/-3db to +/-4db. And to claim porting somehow makes the box dig deeper. Lol
Porting will allow a given size box and efficiency to go deeper than sealed. Compared to sealed porting can give higher efficiency with the same f3 and box size, the same f3 and efficiency with a smaller box or a lower f3 with the same box and efficiency. Loudspeakers 101. Ray Newman at EV explained all this very well back in the 1970s.
The are seriously ugly...and after having seen what it inside them...no thanks.
You need to stop self isolating, you have completely lost it.
Lol