Not just for rock!! Klipsch Cornwall IV Review w/ Upscale Audio's Kevin Deal

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  • @markeastabrooks5005
    @markeastabrooks5005 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Kevin, you have reminded me of my love of audio from the 70's. I'm 63 now, retired from the Navy and more driven than ever to own a set of the new Cornwall IV's. I really miss the stereo stores of the 60's and 70's. All gone now, what a shame. I am so glad you are still here; I really appreciate you sir. Cheers.

  • @mmdusa
    @mmdusa Před 2 lety +9

    Cornwalls rock, for sure. Loved them for many years. But I'm still rockin' my Belle Klipsch. Most beautiful and delicious speaker they ever made!

  • @scottchegg1209
    @scottchegg1209 Před 2 lety +6

    Bought a pair without hearing them. They are brilliant.

  • @bikdav
    @bikdav Před 2 lety +2

    I heard a church pipe organ and congregation processional on a pair of very old Klipschorn corner horns. I was floored by the sound.

  • @2023C8HTC
    @2023C8HTC Před 11 dny

    Break in:I think my Cornwall IVs just started to relax after 3 months.Folks that buy these need to live with them till they get broke in.
    I am pairing mine with the Luxman L509x.Again,like Kevin said."Quality/Quiet power".Amazing!

  • @stevemougeotte7273
    @stevemougeotte7273 Před 2 lety +3

    Not wrong on the break in period. I got the forte IV’s and was like what. The. Frick?!?
    Then literally, after a week I was playing music and turned it up a bit and - holy crap! I was hearing sounds that I thought were coming out of my surrounds. I had to check if I was in stereo and I didn’t believe it! The imaging, staging, the treble met the mid range with grace.
    I still listen with amazement and literally the soundstage continues to surprise me daily.

  • @tylero8595
    @tylero8595 Před 2 lety +6

    Just ordered a pair. Stoked.

    • @jonmcclure103
      @jonmcclure103 Před 2 lety +2

      Report back and let us know what you think. I've had mine for a few months now. I'll be keeping them forever.

  • @AudioElectronicsChicago
    @AudioElectronicsChicago Před 2 lety +4

    Keepers till I am alive, amazing speakers

  • @cpodurnell3701
    @cpodurnell3701 Před rokem

    I got to meet Kevin at Axpona, love his reviews, his passion for audio at all levels of price, and his honesty.

  • @dank.6942
    @dank.6942 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm blessed to have the vintage cousin of these, the Chorus 2... Which split the difference size-wise and feature-wise between the Cornwall (mine have a 15" woofer too) and the Forte (with a passive radiator)... Once positioned properly they are remarkable. The musical texture along with the dynamics are like a real musical instrument...and not just a "sound projector" if you will. They cannot be all things to all people, and neither can any other speaker, but with my Klipsch heritage speakers I find myself grinning and tapping my toes far more than I have with any speakers I've ever owned.

    • @millermark445
      @millermark445 Před rokem +1

      I heard the Chorus at a store that sells used audio equipment. Not impressed. In fact, I was underwhelmed. To be fair, it might have been the way they were positioned (close together and against a wall). They sounded tinny to my ears. But then, no Klipsch speaker has ever wowed me. I've tried to like them (I've heard the whole Heritage series) but just can't get there, which is why I've stuck with my ADS 1230s for close to 40 years. In fact, back in '83 when I bought the 1230s, I heard an a/b against the Cornwalls at the same store. No contest.

  • @jons78733
    @jons78733 Před 2 lety +5

    When I bought my Cornwall IV’s I thought, “I just made a $6.5K mistake”. Then after about 150 hours of listening, they became another speaker. The bass was non-existent out of the box. The midrange was anemic. The highs were over-powering. After the break-in, they came alive. First speaker I have ever purchased that I believe truly “Broke In”. BTW, I run mine with PL Dialogue 6 Monoblocks my PL Prologue Premium Preamp. This is my forever system. I bought the Cornwalls locally but all of my PL gear from Upscale. Upscale is the REAL DEAL! ✌️

    • @MikeGervasi
      @MikeGervasi Před 2 lety

      How did you go about the placement? I tried their setup and then went to moving them until they "disappeared".

    • @jstoli996c4s
      @jstoli996c4s Před 2 lety +1

      Same experience with me when I got my JBL HDI 3800’s last year! I thought, this compression driver is horrible, it sounds utterly lifeless. Then after a good 200 hours, they finally woke up and came alive, and now they sound great 🔊🔊🔊

    • @b0ssm4ch1n3
      @b0ssm4ch1n3 Před 10 měsíci

      I just bought some second hand but they were used in an apartment setup for under a year. I don’t think they’ve been broken in yet because the bass is almost
      Nonexistent…

  • @ronnie5129
    @ronnie5129 Před rokem +2

    Hello, to me Klipsch never made a bad sounding speaker, i love them all, I have noticed that on many websites, they Do not, do a Listening of the speakers, Why , 1n 1989 i purchased a pair of Klipsch Horns for $3000 bucks new, i wanted the Big Ones, I power them with Manley Tube 20 watt Mono Blocks, They sound Great listening to Guns & Roses, But i Prefer listening to a Symphony on them, you think you are at the concert, one day i was listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd, and i turned it up a lot, 20 watts mind you, and the sound Pressure from the Bass actually cracked my front room window, that blew my mind, Cousin Figel

  • @hushpuppykl
    @hushpuppykl Před 2 lety +3

    Got to hear the Forte. No way it’s bright. It might have an extremely mild horn tone but it’s just so mild that it’s not that obvious. They are nice speakers. Would love to listen to the La Scala one day.

  • @pf5658
    @pf5658 Před 2 lety +2

    I absolutely love this no bullshit video. 😊 One thing I always wondered though is why you see Klipsch speakers in some hi end European, Asian stores but not in the U.S.

    • @air2z
      @air2z Před 2 lety

      the first half is literally bullshit... whatchu talkin bout?!

  • @TM-fx2pi
    @TM-fx2pi Před 2 lety +3

    LOVE my Cornwall iv’s!!!

  • @MikeGervasi
    @MikeGervasi Před 2 lety +13

    I love Kevin and UA..they have always been great. However I think an honest post is fair. I bought a set of these from UA about 4 months ago and they are in a 24x28 room. I immediately had an issue with a mid driver buzzing and they sent another which fixed that side. 3 weeks later the other side started buzzing and they replaced that one with no hassle. We aren't sure why it happened but all my gear came from UA and I wasn't cranking them. They DO break in and change a bit but I'm still trying to find this "magic" position to the point I'm starting to question my Rogue Audio Atlas Amp (KT120s). These speakers are NOT a step backwards in my mind but I'm not $6k impressed with them at the moment. The terminal cable shown in the video is not what you get (it's the standard metal pieces connecting the 2.). I will also say I demoed a set of Magnapan 1.7i at a dealer before I ordered the Cornwalls and I wasn't blown away with those either. So maybe it's me.

    • @nickparkin8527
      @nickparkin8527 Před rokem

      Speakers are only as good as the room. If you don’t have any, I would highly recommend acoustic treatment. Even cheap diy panels can make a huge difference and eliminate room nodes and sharpen up the imaging

    • @quantumdave1592
      @quantumdave1592 Před rokem

      Rogue Audio is Buzz Central…never buy their stuff again.

  • @comet14
    @comet14 Před 11 měsíci +1

    i have a pair since 5/3 /1980, more than 80000 hours on duty. I think they are the best of their kind

  • @wvjon75
    @wvjon75 Před 2 lety +2

    I bought Cornwall IVs a couple of months ago. I also have KLF20s that I’ve owned for many years. The KLFs have titanium tweeter upgrades and have a bit more top end sizzle but the CWIV midrange is a nice step up. Bass is a bit punchier on the KLFs but the Cornwalls are really quick and tight for such a large driver. The soundstage is also much wider with the CWs. Overall the CWs are easily the best speaker I’ve ever owned.

  • @jimmay6786
    @jimmay6786 Před 2 lety +3

    I have always wanted cornwalls...but they are soooo big. I have a tiny space...so i will go for the heresy soon. You will get my order uncle Kev.

    • @orwhat24
      @orwhat24 Před 2 lety

      Listen to the Forte 4

  • @scottyo64
    @scottyo64 Před 2 lety +4

    Anytime someone says Klipsch are bright I roll my eyes and stop listening to them. It becomes very apparent they are regurgitating what they have heard on the internet and never spent anytime with them. I get tired of the bulls**t.

  • @scottprice8994
    @scottprice8994 Před 5 měsíci

    On the Andrew Robinson channel, he reviewed the Klipsch Cornwall IV. He said you can order the wood and the front covers to your liking. The Cornwalls he had looked beautiful. His have light wood with a light lamb's wool front cover.
    Andrew Robinson was raving about how good the Cornwalls are.
    By the way, I love how passionate he gets about music and these speakers. "Fuck yeah, man!" Ha ha

  • @l.b.stringfellow2413
    @l.b.stringfellow2413 Před 2 lety +1

    Arkansas is called the diamond state. Klipsch is definitely one of their jewels

  • @brians304
    @brians304 Před 2 lety +1

    I was at Axpona this year and heard the Spendor 2/3 in the Sound Organisation room. To my ears that system was the best I heard that day. Those speakers disappeared, I thought the artists were there in the room. I see that Upscale sells Spendor. Anybody out there heard the Spendor and the Cornwalls? Thank you.

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Před 7 měsíci

    I would love to hear a set of these someday. I prefer sealed or open baffle generally but I am always willing to give anything a try.

  • @margix1172
    @margix1172 Před 2 lety +2

    Great sounding and looking speaker!!!!!

  • @SpyderTracks
    @SpyderTracks Před 2 lety

    Kevin, your passion speaks volumes, it's what made me buy a PrimaLuna Evo Integrated and not look back. Keep on keeping on, love your honesty.

  • @vulgarninja9
    @vulgarninja9 Před 3 měsíci

    8:18 Thank you for your passion. Gotta pair on order.

    • @upscaleaudio
      @upscaleaudio  Před 3 měsíci

      Can’t wait for you to get them and tell us how much you love them!

  • @jclar3565
    @jclar3565 Před 2 lety +1

    I had a couple Cornwall twos and the problem was I kept going through voice coils on every driver actually. So ultimately I up dated to some of their industrial voice coils. My dealer kept putting them in for free. I was driving it with an adcom 200 watt per channel amp. Ultimately, I bought a rock nightclub that had 4 LaScalas and those huge Woofers that everybody used to dance on. Industrial. That system rocked. Dinosaur Jr, Reverend Horton Heat Even Soundgarden played through that system. Very few problems

    • @scottyo64
      @scottyo64 Před 16 dny

      I have run my Cornwall IVs with 650 watt monoblocks for the last 2-1/2 years with no issues

  • @teashea1
    @teashea1 Před rokem

    I very much like mine. So dynamic. Excellent for pleasure listening.

  • @TailspinTommy
    @TailspinTommy Před rokem +1

    Really dig the passion!

  • @kingok9147
    @kingok9147 Před rokem

    I"m sold.Will get a pair once I can afford them.

  • @russellewandowski843
    @russellewandowski843 Před 2 lety

    I just auditioned a pair of Cornwall 4's next to my ESS AMT 1a's and found them to be pretty much comparable. But I had to boost the treble response to get comparable highs out of the Cornwalls. I sent them back.

  • @blackcatsarenopussies
    @blackcatsarenopussies Před 2 lety +1

    Wish you'd try them with a Sugden A21SE.
    Wonder If anyone heard this combo

  • @alwynroberts8465
    @alwynroberts8465 Před rokem

    I love your passion - can you bottle it up and send it to Finland

  • @joeygsaudiochannel3972
    @joeygsaudiochannel3972 Před 2 lety +1

    Bullshit baffles brains Kevin. And I'm running gently used Cornwall IV's on the L & R and a brand new Heresy IV as my Center Channel. 1968 Bose 901's Resto-Modded for my Surrounds.
    BUT........That 15" Woofer needs juice to make "the earth move under my shoes". I get that courtesy of an Orchard Audio Ultra Dual Mono Fully Balanced Amplifier feeding 500W@4ohms (cause with the straps on, CW4's are 4ohm speakers). The Mids and Tweets would do nicely though with a flea bag teeny tiny SET Amplifier. No arguement there.
    You guys have a great online store and I'm glad I spent some money with you Guys last year (8 6H30's and 4 KT150's - all cryo'd - "ooh I'm a believer").
    Met Kat at Axpona, missed you upstairs though.
    Cheers,
    Joe

    • @MikeGervasi
      @MikeGervasi Před 2 lety

      I just measured the impedance with the straps on and it's 6 ohms. So with the tiny bit extra from the cables you'd be slightly closer to 8 than 4. However it's SO slight I think you can set it to taste.

  • @MK-rn2hm
    @MK-rn2hm Před 5 měsíci

    Kevin you rock…finally!

  • @ericharrelson32
    @ericharrelson32 Před 2 lety

    Kevin, I would really like to see you do a review for Klipschorn AK6.

  • @RaymondKolbe
    @RaymondKolbe Před rokem +1

    I wonder if you could provide me with a little advice. I own a pair of Klipsch Cornwalls (I) which I purchased in 1977-1978. They seem a bit lackluster compared to their original performance, but many other parts of my audio system have changed, and I've aged those 43 years as well. But I wonder if the older electronics of the original crossover network might be beyond their useful life. How can I tell? And if they are expired, can I simply replace the entire crossover with the ones from the Cornwall IVs? Although I'm not certain how to acquire said crossovers...

  • @eventin23
    @eventin23 Před rokem +1

    Hello I have a Klipsch Cornwall IV hooked up to a Naim Uniti Atom.... What amp would you suggest for them? Greetings from Poland

  • @gilberthardy8002
    @gilberthardy8002 Před rokem

    Dam your a really cool guy thanks for the true good info i just became a subscriber.

  • @reaality3860
    @reaality3860 Před 2 lety +1

    With the grill on, It looks like my son's mini refrigerator. Can a refrigerator really sound that good? I currently have Klipsch's RP 8000F II tower speakers with two of their 15" subwoofers. At over twice the money, are their Cornwalls really worth trading what I have?

  • @jackfrost838
    @jackfrost838 Před 2 lety +7

    looks like something from 1970.

    • @brettb5257
      @brettb5257 Před 2 lety +3

      1959 is when the Cornwall was introduced. Same box size and shape as todays design. So yes, these would have been in many homes in 1970!

    • @jstoli996c4s
      @jstoli996c4s Před 2 lety +4

      Uh that’s why it’s called the Heritage line

    • @roinebloom2807
      @roinebloom2807 Před 2 lety +4

      And that's a good thing!

  • @ProjectPete
    @ProjectPete Před 11 měsíci

    What about running these off a decent quality home AV theater receiver? Or off a computer hooked up to one of these relievers until you can get a decent analog setup?

  • @carrion_man3700
    @carrion_man3700 Před rokem

    I love this guy

  • @aldoantoniovicentesilva6996

    KEVIN 👍👍👍👍👍🎵🎵🎵🎵🎵💪💪💪💪💪

  • @paulwbranner6609
    @paulwbranner6609 Před 2 lety

    Try using Funky Oscar by Serge Forte' for a reference track!

  • @CarlVanDoren61
    @CarlVanDoren61 Před 2 lety

    Magnepan 20.7s with Coda 16.0 👍

    • @garysmith8455
      @garysmith8455 Před 2 lety

      Martin Logan 'Classic 9's driven by a Parasound A-21 Listeners need to come and hear them for themselves..............at my place of course (O:

  • @The.Original.Mr.X
    @The.Original.Mr.X Před 2 lety +2

    I'm lucky enough to have Volti Vittoras and would encourage anyone to audition horn speakers. Done right, the experience verges on the religious.

  • @user-cn5bc6dd5r
    @user-cn5bc6dd5r Před 2 lety

    hello! please tell me (recommend) an acoustic cable cable t to klipsh forte 4. sincerely, Vladimir.

  • @Quietprofessional1
    @Quietprofessional1 Před rokem +1

    I have a 2,300 pair of Klipsch towers that have the cheapest crap crossovers money can buy.

  • @rgarid62
    @rgarid62 Před rokem

    All take a Pair of Cornwell lV

  • @dnate697
    @dnate697 Před 7 měsíci

    @2:15 I call this guys Audiophools! Break in? Bye!

  • @nebulusnebulus6503
    @nebulusnebulus6503 Před 2 lety +1

    Minimum square feet room size recommended for these Cornwall speakers?

    • @dannyfannyfoodle
      @dannyfannyfoodle Před 2 lety +5

      I have mine on the “long” wall of a dedicated room that’s only 13.5’ X 12’. Powering them with a Conrad Johnson CAV-45S2 and it’s pretty incredible. Placement took quite some time and experimentation to get just right. They are about 8’ apart and a foot-and-a-half from the front wall. I sit about 8 feet away and they are ever so slightly toed in. Huge soundstage that is deep and wide and quite tall. Imaging is okay, but these are giant horn speakers, so that’s not their strong suit.
      If you have a small room, don’t let that scare you. Cornwalls were designed for wall and corner placement (corner wall = Cornwall) and the front port really helps in this regard. I have no issues with bass overloading my small room.

  • @dednside5229
    @dednside5229 Před 2 lety

    I read your email article about the kid blowing the bubble.... am i wrong for thinking jbl pioneered that shape ? If im not mistaken it was a constant directivity application for livesound. If im wrong please diaregard but im pretty sure jbl implimented that first maybe not conceptually as you said in 1964. Is that a true horn or a backvented design?

  • @snomofilms
    @snomofilms Před 2 lety +4

    Lol love this guy 😎

  • @mikejames-drummerreginacan1386

    GREAT VIDEO......thanks.

  • @billenright2788
    @billenright2788 Před rokem

    killer info.

  • @labalo5
    @labalo5 Před 2 lety +1

    horns baby…there is nothing hifi pretty about this, this is a great speaker that isnt a pretender.

    • @jstoli996c4s
      @jstoli996c4s Před 2 lety

      Cornwalls are just big badass speakers 🔊

  • @paulgyro
    @paulgyro Před 2 lety

    Dude, Hersey IV is super bright and has no bass. My ears and objective measurement both attest to this. Now Forte IV and Cornwall IV are a different story.

  • @brianmoss5483
    @brianmoss5483 Před 2 lety +1

    Thought you were going to the Bose klipsch joke when you cupped your mouth

    • @madisongraham9307
      @madisongraham9307 Před 2 lety

      I got that cupped hands demo once upon a time. Bought a pair of the New Larger Advents instead….

  • @sevestan
    @sevestan Před 2 lety

    3 stars

  • @GOHoNZ
    @GOHoNZ Před 2 lety

    Any suggestions for someone on the fence between Cornwalls and La Scalas?

    • @mattwardpictures
      @mattwardpictures Před 2 lety

      Listen to them both at an authorized reseller, if you can. Nothing beats auditioning, especially when you're considering spending that amount of cash!

    • @jstoli996c4s
      @jstoli996c4s Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve never heard the La Scalas, but the Cornwalls are badass for sure 🔊

    • @MikeGervasi
      @MikeGervasi Před 2 lety +1

      @@mattwardpictures 100% truth right there. I was ready to drop $10k on Maggies and once I heard them I didn't see the $ there so I passed.

    • @mattwardpictures
      @mattwardpictures Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@MikeGervasi I enjoyed my MMG's & Emotiva stack for several years, and even auditioned 20.7's powered by Ayre monoblocks at a place in Centerville, VA, but in recent years I just wasn't listening to my system very much at all anymore.
      Just out of curiosity (fed by videos from Upscale Audio & Paducah) I went to a Klipsch Heritage merchant in Toledo, OH and auditioned Cornwall IV's powered by McIntosh.
      That was it. I decided I would trade the Maggies' last word in top-end resolution for the dynamics and realistic impact of horn speakers. I was smitten. Even then, I was worried that the Cornwalls wouldn't scale as well as Maggies on full-size symphony orchestra content.
      Long story short, while steeling myself to save up for La Scalas, a special opportunity to nab Klipschorns at the right price fell in front of me, and I pulled the trigger. No regrets. Not one.

    • @dannyfannyfoodle
      @dannyfannyfoodle Před 2 lety +3

      If you have the budget and are prepared to budget a tad more for a nice REL sub (or two), get the LaScalas. They are amazing. Truly next level. I have Cornwall IV and if my budget would have allowed, I’d have bought the LaScalas. But they’re both awesome.

  • @RichardOzOuzounian
    @RichardOzOuzounian Před 2 lety +1

    Why is Klipsch using MDF? Shouldn't speakers that cost this much be made out of real wood?

    • @peterw2714
      @peterw2714 Před 2 lety +1

      MDF is a very good material for speaker cabinets as it is very dense. More so than solid wood. That’s why it’s used so much!

    • @RichardOzOuzounian
      @RichardOzOuzounian Před 2 lety

      @@peterw2714 So far you are the only person with that opinion. I know former Klipsch dealers that won't buy any MDF Klipsch speakers and call them "junk".

    • @peterw2714
      @peterw2714 Před 2 lety

      @@RichardOzOuzounian I might be the first person to comment on it on this channel but I am hardly alone in my opinion.
      czcams.com/video/kTkwIiPU7Es/video.html

    • @blackcatsarenopussies
      @blackcatsarenopussies Před 2 lety +3

      MDF is denser and more rigid material. And absolutely not prone to work over time as wood does. What I mean is aging. Wood, no matter how well is conditioned and dried it will still work to a certain extent, contracting, sensitive to moisture etc

    • @B1B904
      @B1B904 Před rokem

      @@RichardOzOuzounian he is not the only one with that opinion. Good MDF is not chosen because it's cheap and they don't want to spend the money on wood it is chosen because it is the best material for the application.

  • @l.b.stringfellow2413
    @l.b.stringfellow2413 Před 2 lety

    Klipsch… there really is no substitute

  • @thomasschafer7268
    @thomasschafer7268 Před 2 lety

    Sorry, Designer for what? 70s stuff for 8000€. Explain for what? The plywood or the old Chassis structure. Not the crossover.

  • @AN-ce1nd
    @AN-ce1nd Před 2 lety +1

    Nah, that’s definitely old technology. If I can’t feel the bass, pass.

  • @Okuti8779
    @Okuti8779 Před 2 lety

    The problem is that they’re very expensive. Not all of us have that kind of money.

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn Před 2 lety

    bullsh!t that sums up all of high-end audio manufacturers reviewers and especially dealers.

  • @danijelsan81
    @danijelsan81 Před 2 lety

    Klemenovic hrvatina

  • @darrelldarrell1447
    @darrelldarrell1447 Před rokem

    So literally 4m of talking about nothing that has to do with the cornwalls......

  • @ELVIS7198
    @ELVIS7198 Před rokem

    ces enceintes c'est de la merde!! y a rien dedans ,c'est du vol!!

  • @lookingjust987654321
    @lookingjust987654321 Před 2 měsíci

    102db at the cost of ear bleeding distortion. I've got the CW I, CW IV, Heresy I and IV.
    I tried. Time to move to Martin Logan. These things aren't good on the ears