correct chain length for your 1X drivetrain with Oval or round ring.
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2015
- This is how to find and cut correct chain length for your 1X drivetrain with Oval or round ring.
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Right to the point, no nonsense.You were about the fourth video that I found, and you should have been the first.Thank You. In middle of doing my own video and got stuck. Liked and subscribed.
Cant stop starring at that chain tool.....gorgeous
Thanks, this is a concise and succinct description. Straight to the point. Well done 👍
It's a Shimano tl-cn30
Used this method with my sram NX 11-42t 1x11 transmission and absolute black 32t oval chainring, and it worked flawlessly.
Very well presented on of the best explanations on CZcams!
Many thanks for the very clear video.
Very informative, thank you
I find your video most helpful.. thank you ..
Thanks ...very ..informative..step by step....
The bike he used is a full suspension frame. Usually the distance between the bottom bracket and the rear axle varies as the rear suspension moves through its travel. This distance will typically grow as the rear suspension compresses. The maximum distance would be found somewhere between the uncompressed and the fully compressed position depending on the suspension linkage design. Maybe he is taking this effect into account as not to fall too short which could damage your rear derailleur. One inch (two links) should be OK for a hardtail (no rear suspension) bike. I'd anyways verify that the rear derailleur is neither too tight nor too loose when the chain is wrapped through the jockey wheels in largest chainring position and largest sprocket.
I tested two methods (without derailleur adding four links (technically three because of the quick link) and secondly (Wolf Tooth FAQ) wrapping the chain through the derailleur around the largest cog stretching the cage to maximum and then adding two links). Both yield identical results. I'd wager on the safe side and choose the longer chain.
Always Size through the detailler... this is why people return bikes...
@@frederikroark stretch to maximum in the forward position?
Thanks for the thorough explanation.
I can't figure out one thing, however. Please help if you know the answer.
Road bike. SRAM Rival 1 medium cage. 42 front, 11-40 cassette.
Problem: when I added four links I have slack in the chain when I switch to the smallest cog.
I removed two more links, still slack but less. I added Goatlink (not a Roadlink, not sure if they are different ) and still a problem. In fact, it looks like goatlink made slack even more.
Do you think switching to Rival 1 large cage is the only way to go? or should I cut two more links?
thanks.
You should allow for chain growth on a full sus frame surely?
Hey, I've got sram apex1 and bought absolute black 38T oval. I've got two questions:
1. How should I place the crank? E.g. 5 o'clock?
2. For a gravel bike with no suspension, should I also count 4 links?
Thanks!
Hi ,
I have a downhill bike with a 1 X 9 set-up with short cage SRAM X7 derailleur , cassett is 11-26t , how do i decide what chain i need between a 14 link chain and a 16
Shimano suggests 2 links in their manual, is that for a more then 1 by setup?
This is incorrect. The chain length must be fitting with the suspension fully compressed, at which the distance between the bottom bracket and rear axle will be the longest (in most suspension designs).
So I have a 12-50t with a 30t cr and want to install a 28t cr, how many chain link do I need to remove?
Shimano 1X 11-46T and 38T front, what size of chain I need? . I use CN-HG901 11-Speed Chain is too short barely touch both links.
Changing a chain in dress clothes is a bold move !
Is this the same process for a 1x8 drive train
Will this be the same process for a 1x9 thanks
I used this same method unfortunately I didn’t account for the oversized jockey wheels in my RD which made my chain too short. Didn’t have replacement pins to add more length to the cut chain so had to buy another new chain.
Just use another quick link in future!
I did this and the chain is not even close to being long enough :(
I'm not sure what to do now
Thanks for this video!
Do I need to replace my chain as well if I am going to replace my 32t round chainring with a 32t oval chainring? My bike is a hardtail, by the way.
I replaced my 30t round with a 30t oval and I used the same chain- no problems so far
Nope....you just change if your upgrading to a larger tooth ring..say 32 to 36 teeth.
On my X1, 11-42 rear and 28 in front, I think my chain is too long, when i'm on the last gear, smallest cogs, if i'm not pedaling, my chain is touching the base, can I use this tutorial to determine the correct lenght of my chain ?
thanks
Hi, yes this tutorial is universal in many ways. If your chain is touching the cage when on the smallest gear you need to remove 2 links for sure. Cage has to be at the slight angle in the smallest cog on the cassette. It can't be slack in other words.
what about sus making growth on chain
When you add the 4 extra links do you need to allow for the extra link your adding when joing the chain.Great vid thanks.
So why not just say three.
@@EFLO3D Split at 5 to insert master link which brings it back to 4.
jonzo167 i did three including the master link and it works great.
So what you’re saying is of they’re a little bit stiff, give them a bit of a tug?
Very droll, boom boom!
yeahh think my chains too long, but gonna be chainging cranks
What exactly is meant by 'pay respect to chain ring position'? Is the crank in the longest, shortest or in-between position in its elliptical path? He doesn't explain that at all.
why othet tutorial says only 2 links, whereas your tutorial 4 links?
Didnt work for me ended up having to add links lots of variables with different bikes i guess.
same process for the hardtail? i mean, 4 links still on a hardtail?
It is going to be 4 links in a hardtail, but for a full suspension, remove one bolt from the rear shock and move the rear triangle (part) of the bike all the way to the compressed position, a piece of rope will help. Then you measure the chain and add 4 links. Put the shock back on and then test.
@@TheBaccaClench Isnt the bike shown a full suspension? He didnt compress it did he?
Sooo, I am buying a 34 absolute black oval and 12 speed 11-51 cassette to put on a hardtail. How many links? Should I buy a 116 or 126 link chain? I think with my current 2x11 (11-42) the chain is 114 links.
5:05 the chain is incorrectly fed through the pulleys. the chain needs to be on the 'front' side of the tab midway between the guide and tension pulleys...
Wrong
you're right, i'm wrong. enjoy.
Haha ya you're right.
@@rramirez19 actually you are wrong.
You both are wrong.
Clutch
Hi, is this chain sizing method valid for 2X as well? Thanks in advance
This is how I've done it on 2x or 3x. Use the largest chainring in front
Master link placed backwards. The “fish swims up stream”. The small part of the mastering should move forward.
Not according to KMC... (meaning it is installed as it should and the small part Is moving forward this way)
if you are removing the last female link at the end why not just count 3 pins down instead of 4. Sounds like an extra step.
Or add the master link when doing the initial measurement
HE explains when you aren't using a masterlink and using a Shimano pin, that is where you would add it.
Now the question is: do I need to change anything on my chain when switchin to 30 & 34 chainring?
Pro tip: First set the chain length for the smallest chainring you'll use. Then keep an extra section 2-3 links with an additional master link. That way you can just splice in around the master link when you switch.
Applicable to hardtail?
With a hardtail it's only plus 2 links. I watched a few vids on GMBN. Think it's this one czcams.com/video/pnVdKdMqe9M/video.html
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Your finger points.. the links not clear without looking closely
No logic in 4 links. What about if I have 100 mm travel vs 160 - chain length will be different. And what about if I have a long cage vs a short one. This method is not correct
What about clutch and non clutch?
four links method is perfect,but you should discharge suspension before measure chain lenght
so many different methods some say 2 links
4 pins as counted here is actually 2 links
he/she is right... 2 links is recommended, here counted 4 links.
Hardtail/RB 2 Links, Full Suspension is 4 links
How much more black could this be? None more black.
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Blacker than the blackest black X infinity
That was aweful sound at the end... 3 out of 10
try to make ur video little bit faster
thanks for the comment Ifsan
you can change the speed of the video ;) x1,25 is better ;)