I recently scored a U-18 and couldn't be happier with it. It is absoloutely massive and sounds fantastic. Powering it with 1,600rms from a MMATS Hifi4250 and it drops quad in a 4 cubic foot L-port enclosure.
i've got one in a 66 mustang with that same amp. here's something funny. i replace a pair of 10 inch sd4's with the 1 u12 and had them put the smart 3. i got the car and was driving around thinking i didn't get much of a difference, still couldn't barely hear the bass. about an hour or so into driving and listening i seen the bass knob. i felt stoopid, lol. turned it up a bit and was all smiles, lol. i also have a jeep patriot with 2 u12's and a taramps md5000. the bass is so freaking insane. makes you feel like your gonna have a heart attack.
Love sundown! My sa in sweet box with PDX M12 don’t disappoint! U SERIES IS/looks INCREDIBLE! Zv6 FORGET ABOUT IT! Once u go sundown ther ain’t no turning around!
Weird they don’t take the extra step to bolt the spiders down if that capability is there … usually sundown does all the extras like that… cool vid bro thx I think X is more up my alley cuz I run 10W7AE so I’m thinking the XV2 is going to be a great comparison. Nothing wrong w the JLs & I love them but u know as car audio ppl we always want to switch up lmao
Zv5 replaced zv4, and honestly the xv2 is also very close to zv4. The zv3 was thier 1500 watt traditional surround. So they rotated out to the u series for traditional surround vs mega roll in the zv5. When zv4 was out they had both zv3 and zv4 available. So to stop the confusion they made a new series.
@@AntonJMiller yeah when I was saying I see what they did I'm not knocking sundown but it seems they capitalized on what they already had with the Zv2 turning into the new U series and the Xv1 being upgraded to the Xv2 by utilizing the Zv4. Then that left room for the new Zv5 and it looks like the NS series it's all by itself
@Devil’s Advocate yeah for the 24s I had a feeling that's what it was. There's just not much of a demand for subs that big plus idk if the Z motor was strong enough to make it perform like the rest of the Zs maybe if it was on a NSv4 motor it would've been good also yeah on the team's they're just such huge motors you really don't see anybody running sets of 4+ 100 lb+ subs unless they're sponsored
Dam I like that sub sundown kinda pricy so are sundown subs hand built and assembled rather I'm Gona bite bullet and get at least two of the 15$ and yes keep that kinda content on the Chanel
@Anton J Miller, so how does this compare to the SA V.2? Besides power handling would you say both are very similar? It’s looks just like a SA V.2 ...You should make a side by side comparison video of the 2 subs...
How dose this compare to the X series I am looking into getting etber the U10 or a X10 on a sfb2000. Would that be a good setup and witch do you personally like better plz help me out if you can! Thanks for the great vids
The x has much more throw and smoother sound. The u will likely get louder in a traditional sense where the x will sound better and can be just as loud just might not feel like it's louder.
I haven't pushed the limits in these yet. But I would assume you would be fine with putting a 3kish per woofer at them. After reactive rise your probably fine in the actual 2kish real wattage range
@@AntonJMiller *I guess my question is which Subwoofer should I go with Wolfram AU Gold 12 rated 2500 rms or Sundown Audio X rated 1500 rms? I just want to be heard from at least 2 blocks away.Also,I like them Lows.*
Both are great for daily. I would say the x is more for accurate sound and low end extension. The u is more along the lines of a traditional sound, little more peaky.
@@AntonJMiller what would u say is more made for music ? cos most vids ive seen is the X doing decaf and U more musical but i never heard in person so idk
@@Nico-jk4sb they will both work well given they are put in the proper enclosure. But the x is more naturally a low end beast and u series is more traditional and a little peaky
@@AntonJMiller Man, I got an box already made for the 12sa V2 since that was my original plan. Till I've seen the u12. Not im debating if the extra power for u12 would be worth it but worry may I need to get a bigger spec enclosure to get the sound that I'm liking . 🤣
@@junballs6576 from the v2 to a u your not looking at all that big of a performance change. But could be worth it if put in the proper enclosure. If I had to guess the enclosure you have built is probably fine for a u if speced properly for the v2.
@@AntonJMiller Yes. My guy went with specs for the 12sa v2 & had build the box for my liking since I needed the truck space. Now for sure u12 it is. Thanks for all your help. Subbing right now. 🤙🏽
I'm doing the same exact thing I'm looking at these right now because I'm upgrading my system but I just want slightly more power but I wanna use my custom box made for sa12's
Orion customer service is the worse in the business these days. I was a dealer for them in the late 90’s when they were in Tempe and they were one of the best back then
Oh snap, we got a sticker this time. Lol
Right 😂😂😂
Did you get stickers with your salts?
Anton J Miller my girl opened the boxes over FaceTime with me and there were no stickers. Thanks to you, we made sure the bass knobs were not broken.
@@flaman78 silly sundown haha.
I recently scored a U-18 and couldn't be happier with it. It is absoloutely massive and sounds fantastic. Powering it with 1,600rms from a MMATS Hifi4250 and it drops quad in a 4 cubic foot L-port enclosure.
Got 2 of these on taramps smart 3k in my 98 cavalier, pure slappage!!
i've got one in a 66 mustang with that same amp. here's something funny. i replace a pair of 10 inch sd4's with the 1 u12 and had them put the smart 3. i got the car and was driving around thinking i didn't get much of a difference, still couldn't barely hear the bass. about an hour or so into driving and listening i seen the bass knob. i felt stoopid, lol. turned it up a bit and was all smiles, lol. i also have a jeep patriot with 2 u12's and a taramps md5000. the bass is so freaking insane. makes you feel like your gonna have a heart attack.
With the U and the SA V2 using the same surround and basket. Perhaps make a video describing the differences.
I actually have one filmed just need to edit it so hopefully can get that done soon
Love sundown! My sa in sweet box with PDX M12 don’t disappoint! U SERIES IS/looks INCREDIBLE! Zv6 FORGET ABOUT IT!
Once u go sundown ther ain’t no turning around!
I've got one of theses.. it's the u 12 d2 and love it
Hey can make video the difference between the u series and the x series both of them are 1500 rms thanks for videos
Mine didnt have an assembled in the usa and different packaging love them so far playing them on low power for now
Thank u for this video. Thinking about grabbing 4 12s for a 7.5k build
They are awesome woofers!
Weird they don’t take the extra step to bolt the spiders down if that capability is there … usually sundown does all the extras like that… cool vid bro thx I think X is more up my alley cuz I run 10W7AE so I’m thinking the XV2 is going to be a great comparison. Nothing wrong w the JLs & I love them but u know as car audio ppl we always want to switch up lmao
I’m thinking about grabbing the 12’s or 10’s. I’m feeling like taking the challenge of making 10’s loud
These 10s get LOUD
Yo I think I just talked to you on the phone tonight about what amp to get for my hdc3s
Love my 4 u 12s 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Deciding between these and the American Bass hd. Any input would be appreciated. 12" woofers.
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Replacement for the Zv3? I thought Zv4 replaced Zv3?
Zv5 replaced zv4, and honestly the xv2 is also very close to zv4. The zv3 was thier 1500 watt traditional surround. So they rotated out to the u series for traditional surround vs mega roll in the zv5.
When zv4 was out they had both zv3 and zv4 available. So to stop the confusion they made a new series.
@@AntonJMiller oh okay I see what they did
@@AntonJMiller yeah when I was saying I see what they did I'm not knocking sundown but it seems they capitalized on what they already had with the Zv2 turning into the new U series and the Xv1 being upgraded to the Xv2 by utilizing the Zv4. Then that left room for the new Zv5 and it looks like the NS series it's all by itself
@@AntonJMilleryeah I think that's smart on Sundown's part. What do you think was the demise of the Zv524 and the Team series?
@Devil’s Advocate yeah for the 24s I had a feeling that's what it was. There's just not much of a demand for subs that big plus idk if the Z motor was strong enough to make it perform like the rest of the Zs maybe if it was on a NSv4 motor it would've been good also yeah on the team's they're just such huge motors you really don't see anybody running sets of 4+ 100 lb+ subs unless they're sponsored
Dam I like that sub sundown kinda pricy so are sundown subs hand built and assembled rather I'm Gona bite bullet and get at least two of the 15$ and yes keep that kinda content on the Chanel
As far as price goes you 100% get more than you pay for with Sundown.
They are moving all u series and up to in house assembly. It's very bad ass.
@Anton J Miller, so how does this compare to the SA V.2? Besides power handling would you say both are very similar? It’s looks just like a SA V.2 ...You should make a side by side comparison video of the 2 subs...
i think i have some footage shot for that comparison. i would say they sound similar, however the x will have more punch due to the motor force.
What is the magnet oz on it?
Same size sa?
How dose this compare to the X series I am looking into getting etber the U10 or a X10 on a sfb2000. Would that be a good setup and witch do you personally like better plz help me out if you can! Thanks for the great vids
The x has much more throw and smoother sound. The u will likely get louder in a traditional sense where the x will sound better and can be just as loud just might not feel like it's louder.
The gap between the SA V2 and the U isn’t much now. Just coil and motor.
Motor is much bigger on the U and coil is much better ...there is definitely a gap in power handling lol
How much rms clean do you think 1 sub can handle?
I haven't pushed the limits in these yet. But I would assume you would be fine with putting a 3kish per woofer at them. After reactive rise your probably fine in the actual 2kish real wattage range
@@AntonJMiller *I guess my question is which Subwoofer should I go with Wolfram AU Gold 12 rated 2500 rms or Sundown Audio X rated 1500 rms? I just want to be heard from at least 2 blocks away.Also,I like them Lows.*
@@princetigerbeatz9316 100% comes down to the install on whether or not your heard from blocks away
@@AntonJMiller *What Sub you prefer out of the two?*
Do these sound like the sa v2 12s??
It's hard to say because ots going to depend on your install mainly. These are way more powerful than an sa
Are these woofers good for spl? Thanks
Very good for spl
@@AntonJMiller Sundown also says that they are good for everyday music as well.. wondering your thoughts on that?
Would be a big pounder with one of these sealed and a sundown sfb 2000 amp?
Sealed? No. Sound great but not a big pounder ...
Ported tho! Yes!!!
Thats what happens when the SA and X have a baby.
That sub would be badass with 3 slugs of ferrite.
If u had to compare x and u series, would u series be more of a daily and x series more for spl/competition?
Both are great for daily. I would say the x is more for accurate sound and low end extension. The u is more along the lines of a traditional sound, little more peaky.
@@AntonJMiller thank you
@@AntonJMiller what would u say is more made for music ? cos most vids ive seen is the X doing decaf and U more musical but i never heard in person so idk
@@Nico-jk4sb they will both work well given they are put in the proper enclosure. But the x is more naturally a low end beast and u series is more traditional and a little peaky
@@AntonJMiller by peaky do you mean louder as in spl wise?
Sundown U series 12" vs American Bass hd series 12"?
Sundowns beat out American bass all day.
Can this handle a skar 2,000 watt amp at 1 ohm?
Yes just set the gains properly
Would the U 12 compare to a DD 2512?
to me the u 12 would compare closer to between the 3500 and 9500 series.
Could a u12 fit in a 12sa spec box & still provide the same sound or better?
Simple awnser is yes. The cut out should be the same and the specs are similar enough. But to get the most you'll want a custom enclosure built.
@@AntonJMiller Man, I got an box already made for the 12sa V2 since that was my original plan. Till I've seen the u12. Not im debating if the extra power for u12 would be worth it but worry may I need to get a bigger spec enclosure to get the sound that I'm liking . 🤣
@@junballs6576 from the v2 to a u your not looking at all that big of a performance change. But could be worth it if put in the proper enclosure. If I had to guess the enclosure you have built is probably fine for a u if speced properly for the v2.
@@AntonJMiller Yes. My guy went with specs for the 12sa v2 & had build the box for my liking since I needed the truck space. Now for sure u12 it is. Thanks for all your help. Subbing right now. 🤙🏽
I'm doing the same exact thing I'm looking at these right now because I'm upgrading my system but I just want slightly more power but I wanna use my custom box made for sa12's
Would a sfb 3k push 2 of these
yes, however i will personally recommend more power.
@@AntonJMiller just asking because i already got the 3k but im torn between the sa v2 or the u series whqt would u recommend
i have 2 in a jeep patriot being pushed by a taramps md5000. it's freakin insane. the bass flexes the doors and roof like crazy.
Get some x series they don't play around
Can i run one of these u sundown sub with not extra power in my car
What do you mean?
Will I have to put a high output alternator in or add extra batteries if install just one 12 in sundown 12 in v2 d2
@@keithcorry1052 the alternator comes down to what amplifier you install, not necessarily the subwoofer
@@AntonJMillerso wat amp would you recommend for this sub
Sundown Audio U-12 D2 12" 1500W RMS Dual 2-Ohm
Are the u-10s are any loud or good?
Of course! They are very good woofers
Tune the box at 30 htz and U will be slamming for sure. I have 1 hooked up at 1 ohm in my car
Is that basket aluminum or steel?
Aluminum
Anton J Miller thanks man!
Sundown audio subwoofers are the worst packages 📦 they charge arm & leg but package & shipping is horrible
Fu**ck sundown audio it's all about ORION
Orion customer service is the worse in the business these days.
I was a dealer for them in the late 90’s when they were in Tempe and they were one of the best back then