Simping is bad only if you do so for someone who doesn't even care about you, like onlyfans girls. She cared about you, no, she LOVED you, deeply so. His "simping" was simply loyalty and desire for her
@@michelecastellotti9172yeah! And neither of them really have very much say-like obviously you have choices, and the choices impact everything, but at the same time…do they really? No matter what, one of you seems to HAVE to be hurt, or the world itself completely breaks apart. Makes it all feel kinda futile at certain moments.
@@michelecastellotti9172 I think that this relationship is rather about ignoring the other person's need and understanding the core of that person. The smitten just sees the beauty of the damsel and not rather her true self. That's why I think in stranger, her hand resembles 'blind devotion'. So his "love" for her is just.. surface leveled. Perhaps it could be called lust too... Sure he's loyal to her but if he doesn't even acknowledge the person she is! This could result in a bad relationship. The damsel is a result of his "simpy" behavior in chapter 1. She is shifting mound, so she is built from the circumstances around her. As we simply try to save the princess, she becomes more like damsel because of our actions of wanting to save her. Perhaps the princess assumes we want to be a dashing hero and so in chapter 2 she becomes the damsel to "fulfill" that desire. She loves us for who we are but we(the smitten) doesn't. He just compliments her on her beauty and sees nothing else. I think this is why they both could suffer from this relationship (first us being slayed and her, not being understood ig)
Simply my favorite vessel route. The Damsel as she is, is pretty much your typical 'happily ever after' route. However, this allows you to test her love for you even more. Even as a ghostly wraith, she is still willing to forgive you for everything that happened, fully aware that both of you will inevitably hurt each other again and again. As an act of love, she wishes to end it all together with you holding your hand and giving you a heartwarming smile that says "I'm here with you and everything will be okay".
@@JohanBautista-fm9xy It had it's purpose when it referred to E thots, their fans and associated white-knighting, but agreed, that term spread way too far and broadly past it's original use.
Well, yes of course she does. She is only a reflection of your perspective, you perceived her still loving you after you kill her, so of course the next version of her will also still love you.
I think the saddest part of this route is that the Princess still has SOME sort of agency and control over how she changes. While our perception of her does change her, her perspective of us ALSO changes her. The Witch is probably the best example of this. We tricked her, so now she WANTS to trick us back. She WANTS to get revenge no matter what and our perception of us helped her along with that. This means that the Damsel, to some degree, WANTED to be left with absolutely no agency whatsoever. After what we did and how hard we tried to rescue her, and her devastation over how she had to kill us, and couldn't even make it quick, she wanted to do WHATEVER would make us happy to make up for it, even if it meant giving up her entire being and sense of self to do it. "I just want to make you happy!"
@@madam-mint It's all fanon interpretation, cause I know the creator's main intention for this route is to show the concept of objectifying the person you love, but there are plenty of real life tragedies where your loved ones basically throw away their sense of agency to please you, and even do so willingly. And I like that angle a lot more than simple objectification.
I love the damsel route when you don't get that wierd music to ruin it. Best route. The amount of love she has for you is beautiful. Just pure unconditional love, like as in 'Romeo and Juliet' love. I also find the grey route the most disturbing route. I mean even the landcape, outside of the cabin, reminds me of the lonely moors in real life. The grey route is highly disturbing with the bloated body of the princess dragging you down in to darkness of murky waters of the cabin whilst a terrifying ghostly apparition watches you silently from above. It gives me chills. Very disturbing psychologically. Also, the grey, passion betrayed and love that never faded. That vessel makes me cry. She never stopped loving you. Even though it was sick to make you burn to death, she genuinely thought it was for the best because she wanted you and her to be united again. Very deep and sad.
I have to disagree with the first paragraph. It’s not a beautiful love, it’s kinda creepy. She’s basically just a cardboard cutout of a person with no wants or feelings of her own.
@@Pikmanipulator the princess is whatever the MC perceives her to be. The smitten believes she’s a damsel in distress that will love him, and his belief is so strong that’s all she is. That’s why she degrades if you ask her what she wants, there’s nothing there except for damsel in distress
@@AidMB Affectionate and sweet may be all she is, but to me Damsel seems genuine in it somehow, so I can't hate her for being one dimensional even though I have hated similar characters in the past. In my eyes Damsel is the human equivalent of a golden retriever, blonde hair and all.
I absolutely adore the Narrator, even though he's kinda an antagonist. He's so emotive, both amusingly and heartbreakingly. You can really feel his desperation, even though he masks it with sarcasm, wisecracking, and complaining.
Manly did an uncensored LP the first time, and I saw the whole thing, but because his content is monetized he got flagged by CZcams and it was forcibly deleted by CZcams hours later and he had to upload a censored one instead. He didn't foresee that CZcams hated the Grey, so don't blame him just like that.
Thanks for uploading, I never could find the heart to take her life in this route (so the Burning Grey was the one vessel I never got to encounter). At least she's a lot more understanding than the Drowned Grey (prisoner) version, who will still be coldly angry at you even if you didn't kill her and she killed herself.
I already commented but 30:42 makes me DIE in an otherwise sad moment because he gets so upset that he briefly becomes American and says it like “a$$” instead of “ar$e”.
I haven’t started watching the video yet, but I hope that these playthroughs will showcase as many choices as possible. Excited to see what happens and see the gore that somebody else mentioned
This is the best channel with this game videos! I want to see Evanescent / Hitchhiker vessel, and can't find that. =( Wikipedia says the game released to Linux but can't find such a version either. =((
@@couldyounotdude3168 it's a 50/50 or it depends or something else? I can't remember how to get The Beast but I thought betraying her after saving always gives The Witch
@@Bartolomeo4968 to get beast you have to betray her and then die to her without her dying to you, meanwhile with witch you both have to die to each other after betraying her
@@couldyounotdude3168Additionally: If you warn her then go to slay her, you're locked into the witch regardless of what happens and the fact she takes the beast pose while you lie on the floor (it's implied the wounds you gave her may kill her before she gets out). Same thing happens if you slay her instead of earning her. If you betray her while she's gnawing her arm off, then giving up leads to Beast while killing her while she kills you leads to Witch. If you decide to go back for the blade then investigate her severed arm on the floor while the door is open, she'll run past you and lock you in the basement, which also leads to Witch. If you close the door then check the arm, she'll ounce on you and the same outcomes occur if you betrayed her: giving up leads to Beast while a mutual kill leads to Witch. However that's only if you haven't called out to her before closing the door, otherwise it locks you into Beast anyway where she overpowers you You can also decide to wait after closing the door from which you can keep waiting until you fall asleep and she tears into you or step into the shadows where she easily kills you. Both lead to Beast.
Actually you can. You just need to bring the blade, then while asking her questions, slay her at any point before the hands come. Or deconstruct her, go upstairs and slay her and she'll revert to the state she was in.
26:24 damn, I can't find a video of the player insisting that she tell you what she wants. Genuinely one of the most creepy and unsettling things I've ever experienced in a story. Suppose I'll have to replay again.
40:52 - 41:23 nearly reduced me to tears when I played through this route, ugh it's so emotional. The reason I slew her then was because doubt crept in as to whether or not i could trust her, and at that time, I wasn't sure I could stand to descend the staircase even though I knew I had to. 50:25 - 50:41 might have actually did reduce me to tears, if I remember right. All of that, and she "served her purpose"? That was worse than the burning...
@@tirtheshjadhav1898 There is, somewhat. If you take the Damsel route and let her free, but then start asking questions about what she wants, she starts deconstructing into a 2D cutout, apparently symbolizing the shallowness of the character you caused the princess to take
I'm just gonna say it...WHAT THE HELLS WRONG WITH YOU? I get what your going for with this playthrough but Seriously why would you have such a romantic time only to turn around and slay her? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.!?😖
I feel so bad for her in this route, she even apologised assuming she did something wrong to end up being stabbed.
Listen I know Smitten is a giant simp but hearing him so sad is heartbreaking. He loves her…and “his” body just killed her.
Simping is bad only if you do so for someone who doesn't even care about you, like onlyfans girls. She cared about you, no, she LOVED you, deeply so. His "simping" was simply loyalty and desire for her
@@michelecastellotti9172yeah! And neither of them really have very much say-like obviously you have choices, and the choices impact everything, but at the same time…do they really? No matter what, one of you seems to HAVE to be hurt, or the world itself completely breaks apart. Makes it all feel kinda futile at certain moments.
@@michelecastellotti9172 I think that this relationship is rather about ignoring the other person's need and understanding the core of that person. The smitten just sees the beauty of the damsel and not rather her true self. That's why I think in stranger, her hand resembles 'blind devotion'. So his "love" for her is just.. surface leveled. Perhaps it could be called lust too...
Sure he's loyal to her but if he doesn't even acknowledge the person she is! This could result in a bad relationship. The damsel is a result of his "simpy" behavior in chapter 1. She is shifting mound, so she is built from the circumstances around her. As we simply try to save the princess, she becomes more like damsel because of our actions of wanting to save her. Perhaps the princess assumes we want to be a dashing hero and so in chapter 2 she becomes the damsel to "fulfill" that desire. She loves us for who we are but we(the smitten) doesn't. He just compliments her on her beauty and sees nothing else.
I think this is why they both could suffer from this relationship (first us being slayed and her, not being understood ig)
@@shriyapalsule4790 well I mean that changes in the Thorn route. can't elaborate more but he loves the princess anyway, no matter who she is.
Simply my favorite vessel route. The Damsel as she is, is pretty much your typical 'happily ever after' route. However, this allows you to test her love for you even more.
Even as a ghostly wraith, she is still willing to forgive you for everything that happened, fully aware that both of you will inevitably hurt each other again and again. As an act of love, she wishes to end it all together with you holding your hand and giving you a heartwarming smile that says "I'm here with you and everything will be okay".
Don't want to be that guy but if a man does it he will be called a "simp" (it's a stupid word honestly)
@@JohanBautista-fm9xy It had it's purpose when it referred to E thots, their fans and associated white-knighting, but agreed, that term spread way too far and broadly past it's original use.
Well, yes of course she does. She is only a reflection of your perspective, you perceived her still loving you after you kill her, so of course the next version of her will also still love you.
*insert angry cry and punching the air*
this is why I get emotional whenever I hear the burned grey’s theme, this route fucks me up man
I think the saddest part of this route is that the Princess still has SOME sort of agency and control over how she changes. While our perception of her does change her, her perspective of us ALSO changes her. The Witch is probably the best example of this. We tricked her, so now she WANTS to trick us back. She WANTS to get revenge no matter what and our perception of us helped her along with that. This means that the Damsel, to some degree, WANTED to be left with absolutely no agency whatsoever. After what we did and how hard we tried to rescue her, and her devastation over how she had to kill us, and couldn't even make it quick, she wanted to do WHATEVER would make us happy to make up for it, even if it meant giving up her entire being and sense of self to do it.
"I just want to make you happy!"
DANG good analysis here, I love this.
@@madam-mint It's all fanon interpretation, cause I know the creator's main intention for this route is to show the concept of objectifying the person you love, but there are plenty of real life tragedies where your loved ones basically throw away their sense of agency to please you, and even do so willingly. And I like that angle a lot more than simple objectification.
Smitten and Cold are hilarious together.
I love how the grey just has this extremely drawn out opening argument 😂
Smitten and Cold bitching with each other is one of my fav moments
Ikr?? I love when the voices interact XD
I love the damsel route when you don't get that wierd music to ruin it. Best route. The amount of love she has for you is beautiful. Just pure unconditional love, like as in 'Romeo and Juliet' love.
I also find the grey route the most disturbing route. I mean even the landcape, outside of the cabin, reminds me of the lonely moors in real life. The grey route is highly disturbing with the bloated body of the princess dragging you down in to darkness of murky waters of the cabin whilst a terrifying ghostly apparition watches you silently from above. It gives me chills. Very disturbing psychologically.
Also, the grey, passion betrayed and love that never faded. That vessel makes me cry. She never stopped loving you. Even though it was sick to make you burn to death, she genuinely thought it was for the best because she wanted you and her to be united again. Very deep and sad.
I have to disagree with the first paragraph. It’s not a beautiful love, it’s kinda creepy. She’s basically just a cardboard cutout of a person with no wants or feelings of her own.
@@AidMBTo be fair to the princess, she doesn't exactly have any memories of anything outside of the cabin basement...except for you.
@@Pikmanipulator the princess is whatever the MC perceives her to be. The smitten believes she’s a damsel in distress that will love him, and his belief is so strong that’s all she is. That’s why she degrades if you ask her what she wants, there’s nothing there except for damsel in distress
@@AidMB Affectionate and sweet may be all she is, but to me Damsel seems genuine in it somehow, so I can't hate her for being one dimensional even though I have hated similar characters in the past. In my eyes Damsel is the human equivalent of a golden retriever, blonde hair and all.
Real chads love them all.
They might be partial to the Needle though. (Unironically the Shifting Mound is best girl.)
I absolutely adore the Narrator, even though he's kinda an antagonist. He's so emotive, both amusingly and heartbreakingly. You can really feel his desperation, even though he masks it with sarcasm, wisecracking, and complaining.
Do not mourn her?
She is my heart, you have no idea how it feels to love her. And how she is to love me.
-smittin probably
Wuthering Heights?
@@spidey5558 no I just came up on It, on my head 😅 I guess I'm a smettin
@@Barney_Is_your_Friend. Ah, I see. It just gave the same vibe as "you say I've killed you, haunt me then."
@@spidey5558 damn that hits deep 🗣️🔥🔥
Sadly Manly couldn't show me what we just saw. Thank you for this uncensored LP.
Manly did an uncensored LP the first time, and I saw the whole thing, but because his content is monetized he got flagged by CZcams and it was forcibly deleted by CZcams hours later and he had to upload a censored one instead.
He didn't foresee that CZcams hated the Grey, so don't blame him just like that.
Yeah I loved his playthrough but he also couldn't get all the route variations which is why I came here :D
@@hampterinehampterton325YT didn't hate the grey. If they did they would've taken down the re-upload - because grey is everywhere lol
@@reubensalter8125 i assume youtube just hates this manly guy for some reason then
@@WackyrDrago They don't hate him either. If they did they would've terminated him already.
The Narrator popping at least 7 veins everytime the Smitten comes out of his hole
There are two pristine blades in the burned Grey chapter; one in the body on the floor and one in the Princess
Thanks for uploading, I never could find the heart to take her life in this route (so the Burning Grey was the one vessel I never got to encounter).
At least she's a lot more understanding than the Drowned Grey (prisoner) version, who will still be coldly angry at you even if you didn't kill her and she killed herself.
I already commented but 30:42 makes me DIE in an otherwise sad moment because he gets so upset that he briefly becomes American and says it like “a$$” instead of “ar$e”.
I haven’t started watching the video yet, but I hope that these playthroughs will showcase as many choices as possible. Excited to see what happens and see the gore that somebody else mentioned
This is the best channel with this game videos! I want to see Evanescent / Hitchhiker vessel, and can't find that. =( Wikipedia says the game released to Linux but can't find such a version either. =((
12:24 - What happens if you choose to slay the princess after you warn her?
You get sent to either witch or beast
@@couldyounotdude3168 it's a 50/50 or it depends or something else? I can't remember how to get The Beast but I thought betraying her after saving always gives The Witch
@@Bartolomeo4968 to get beast you have to betray her and then die to her without her dying to you, meanwhile with witch you both have to die to each other after betraying her
@@couldyounotdude3168 ah, thx now I remember
@@couldyounotdude3168Additionally:
If you warn her then go to slay her, you're locked into the witch regardless of what happens and the fact she takes the beast pose while you lie on the floor (it's implied the wounds you gave her may kill her before she gets out). Same thing happens if you slay her instead of earning her.
If you betray her while she's gnawing her arm off, then giving up leads to Beast while killing her while she kills you leads to Witch.
If you decide to go back for the blade then investigate her severed arm on the floor while the door is open, she'll run past you and lock you in the basement, which also leads to Witch.
If you close the door then check the arm, she'll ounce on you and the same outcomes occur if you betrayed her: giving up leads to Beast while a mutual kill leads to Witch. However that's only if you haven't called out to her before closing the door, otherwise it locks you into Beast anyway where she overpowers you
You can also decide to wait after closing the door from which you can keep waiting until you fall asleep and she tears into you or step into the shadows where she easily kills you. Both lead to Beast.
For Le Resistance! Down with the aristocracy!
Huh if you screw up the Damsel rout you just straight up cant to the Grey
Actually you can. You just need to bring the blade, then while asking her questions, slay her at any point before the hands come. Or deconstruct her, go upstairs and slay her and she'll revert to the state she was in.
26:24 damn, I can't find a video of the player insisting that she tell you what she wants. Genuinely one of the most creepy and unsettling things I've ever experienced in a story.
Suppose I'll have to replay again.
Bowzer and Princess Peach.
I feel so guilty in this ending, I feel so horrible 😭
40:52 - 41:23 nearly reduced me to tears when I played through this route, ugh it's so emotional. The reason I slew her then was because doubt crept in as to whether or not i could trust her, and at that time, I wasn't sure I could stand to descend the staircase even though I knew I had to. 50:25 - 50:41 might have actually did reduce me to tears, if I remember right. All of that, and she "served her purpose"? That was worse than the burning...
I can't believe this
How many different types of the Grey are there
2
@@Jay-er7yk thnx
31:26
45:21
29:25 what happens when we take the other route?
you get to live happily ever after with her
(it ends at chapter 2 and the damsel becomes the vessel)
@@jwideuluisinaein okayy, thanks, i thought there'd be more to it tho
@@tirtheshjadhav1898 there's funny dialogue too lol
@@tirtheshjadhav1898
There is, somewhat. If you take the Damsel route and let her free, but then start asking questions about what she wants, she starts deconstructing into a 2D cutout, apparently symbolizing the shallowness of the character you caused the princess to take
what is the song at 11:20
World Ender, I think
I'm just gonna say it...WHAT THE HELLS WRONG WITH YOU? I get what your going for with this playthrough but Seriously why would you have such a romantic time only to turn around and slay her? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.!?😖
It was so hard, I hated myself for it :)
@@cavlanmavlan: As long as you actually feel bad about it.
Be glad you don't need to discover the consequences of such options by yourself
@@Invizive: True
There may be no wrong choices, only new perspectives and experiences, but killing The Damsel in cold blood like that sure feels like a wrong choice.