Motorcycle Crash Bars, Crash Protectors - Are they really worth it?
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Let’s talk about the motorcycle crash bars - do they really worth it? Well, the answer is yes and no! It’s really depends from the bike and from the accident. I don’t have a simple answer for you, but I can tell you what I think, stay with me!
The usual advice will be - if you plan to travel the world, you definitely will need it. In the case of accident they will protect your bike from serious damages. That statement could be truth, but also could be totally wrong.
There are few types of motorcycle crash bars:
Sliders - they are usually recommended for sport bikes. They are massive metal cylinders, or another shape, mounted to the frame or to the engine and idea behind is that if you slide down they will keep the important parts of your motorcycle untouched.
The second type, much bigger then sliders and they are made from bended pipes. Designed to protect the engine, the radiator or cylinder heads. There are many different options, sizes and models. The most famous is on GS 1200 boxers.
The third type, more likely to be used on adventure bikes. They are design to protect the engine, but also the sides of your motorcycle. You can find many videos and picture evidences that they really work. There hundreds of brand and models on the market so you can choose the one you like the most.
There is another one type, in last few years become more popular; mostly after the new GS 1200 Adventure was launched. It’s combination between the bottom and the top part. The idea is to protect your motorcycle from any crash. You can see it now on new Honda Africa Twin and on KTM adventure as well.
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Your English is good, no need to apologize. Thanks for sharing wisdom and experience! 👍🏽
+1 on that!
Agreed. Thanks for the video!
Your english is the key of the succes of your YT channel becouse it is understandable for most of people, who learned even basis english. If you spoke clear british english, I (and probably thousands of other pepole) would turn off the channel after first minute.
Your speaking is just fine.
The background music is pretty bad. Wish you did not use any background music.
I was doing to write the same. Unfortunately there are many sad people on earth who are so insecure that exposing others vulnerability is the only way they feel alive. I think they are majority now after I’ve been seeing more internet.
Only way to deal with them is to just ignore them.
We are not dealing rocket science here. You are sharing your opinion based on your vast experience in a very straight forward way about long distance motorcycle riding. A not very complicated topic. Anyone who complain about uploader’s language skill in such a simple topic has problems. I can say this those who is trashing someone speaking with a lot less English skill than you simply because the topic is so uncomplicated.
Viewers like your contents including your pretty impressive English as a second language skill. Anyone who speaks multiple languages know this. Another example that many talk about things they don’t know.
Please feel firmly confident about your English skill and ignore all those who say otherwise.
I now realize I liked your decisive tone a lot. Your kindness for the unfortunate is reducing your charms.
2:52"I talked so much and said nothing, like a real politician" hahaha very good
I laughed at that!
But at least we can trust Pavlin.
Ur English is easily understandable and content is solid..no worries there..
Your English speaking in perfectly fine and your tips and advice are Pro, thanks for taking the time to make and upload these videos :)
You are welcome any time my friend!
Do not worry about the accent, in some words it is a bit difficult, but your english it is perfectly understood, your chanel is one of the best in giving advice for motorcycle related issues.
100 points
Thx for the perfect words again. Like in every other of your videos! Your english is pretty good and easy to understand!
Very good comments. I am an engineer and the points you make are the same I have been making for some time now. I especially liked when you mentioned that there should be at least 3 mounting points, and that these are best on the frame. I also add that the more the mounting points, the less the load dumped into the frame or the engine. I hate crash bars, myself, but I hate damage to my bike even more.
For me your english is the best english i've ever listened. I can undestand everything. Greatings from Brazil.
Another practical episode of advice from someone with real-world experience and not a product to sell. I'll use your advice for my 640 ADV.
Pavlin, no problems whatsoever with your communication skills. I like it that way. No BS. As usual, good and informative. Thank you.
I actually really like your English, the way you describe something is always clear. I think maybe because you struggle to say it, you end up doing a better job than a native English speaker, because you have to think so clearly about what you want top say, and often frame a sentence in multiple ways to cover your point. The outcome is that its easy for us to understand it. And that's the most important thing and why we watch!
Well, I am glad that you see it that way and of course to find the videos useful. Thanks!
Crash bars are also handy when you are tying your bike on a ferry or a tow truck, makes things really easy and helps you avoiding nasty scrachts on the wheels. Also you can tie auxiliary lights, or more bags! :D
Yes, they are also very useful when you have to lift it from the ground.
My tie-down hooks have lost the plastic dip coating. To avoid metal to metal contact, I made 2 loops from (1inch / 25mm) flat webb from an outdoor mountain adventure company.
I cut 2 pieces about 2 feet long and tie together with a water knot. Now loop them around the frame, fork tube, handle bar, etc, and no scratches.
They come in handy for other uses too; setting up tent/hammock, temporary handles to lift a fallen bike, & whatever else. They weigh almost nohing and take up very little space.
Always spot on in giving the best advice on motorcycling!
Pavlin, your english is good and the advices are clear and top notch!! Keep doing the good job and ride safe!!!
I will, thanks!
Please don't worry about your spoken English, it's 100% better than my Bulgarian. Content watchers who criticise probably don't speak English correctly anyway. Another helpful, Intelligent video which will give Adventure riders food for thought when searching out crash bars. All the best & keep up the good work.
Happy travels for you as well! Thanks for watching!
Please put. the sub tittles in.english
There’s nothing wrong with your English, if anything, you make it more descriptive and understanding to more novice audience- thank you. (Sort of remind me of Ross Perot ;).
Is this Ross Perot ...the chicken man of Texas ...
As usual, words of wisdom. Clear and concise. Great video, Pavlin!
Thank you my friend!
Your English is absolutely powerful. I appreciate your videos.
Thanks Brandon!
Well explained my friend. I use Heed bars from Poland on my Tiger 800. Well made, sturdy , and fairly easy to fit.
Your English is very easy to understand! Keep on making the best adventure videos on CZcams!
I will, thanks!
Congratulations ! You managed to reach all the essential points of this topic, being understood by everyone.
Glad you think so!
This advice is right on the money! As always. Thanks for taking the time !
Thanks man!
Crash bars must protect NOT the motorcycle / motorcycle engine . Crash bars must protect the FEET in the accident . When i go down , i could`t care less about the bike : all i care - my feet . Bars should be perpendicular to the engine - O or C- shaped bars , not parallel !! , and should protrude to the each side at least for 8, 9 inches . I went down on a slow , some 20m/h speed on Honda NC700 , on a snow , and stupid parallel to the engine SW-Motech crash bars did NOTHING to protect my feet . Motorcycle just clipped down and crushed like macaroni my ankle - All three bones right above the ankle are broken . First thing i do when get back on a bike - will throw away those "crash bars " and install C-shaped strong crash bars .
Very nice channel .
I am really sorry about the accident you have! I hope that you will recover quick and will jump on the bike again.
Excellent video, I was thoroughly confused after watching 100 videos. Thanks for taking the time to address this and your English is great!
Glad it helped!
your way of thinking is absolutely right..it's important that you deliver your knowledge and thoughts.. all the new drivers should carefully listen to you. than you!
not biker yet, but find Your videos very informative. reason above all as usual. thank You!
Und wieder mal ein sehr gutes Video!!
best video on the subject i found today been looking around for 3 hours thank you
Thanks!
Your English speaking is brilliant absolutely 10/10 no problems understanding what your saying.
You have a brilliant way of explaining everything .
I wish I could speak Bulgarian half as good as you speak English
Your English is great ,but I appreciate the long explanations with pictures . Great job thank you.
Beautiful video Pavlo thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with the rest of the world 🌎
My pleasure!
Congratulations for your english and the detailed talk! Keep riding! Best regards from Greece!
Thanks!
Great tips - thx!
I totally understand your English, you speak very clearly, and the minor imperfections add flavor.
The way you explain everything in your videos is pretty good and practical, keep it up thanks
I am glad that you found it useful!
This video got me thinking. I rode a gs1200 normally so i downsized to a gs800 and i feel so much more comfortable like you said. Its lighter and thinner and more nimble. My next bike i think will be even smaller i believe i could go even less but i still want the comfort for distance. Thankyou again :)
Clear and precise explanation and illustrations. Very helpful advice and information. I appreciate and enjoy your videos. Thanks for your efforts. Cheers from a new subscriber in Canada.
Thank you so much! Enjoy the rest of the videos and always ride safe!
Perfect timing, thanks! I was just looking into buying crash bars to go with the bike I'm looking at buying... might get sliders instead now. And, I understood your English, the accent is cool ;)
Hey new viewer here, I have a Tenere 250cc and I ride about 400km on road per week for a few months to go to work. I intalled a Givi protection bar and it worked just fine last week when I crash. They held all the lateral impact from the engine and clutch to the tank. The bike is safe! Thaks for your videos! Cheers from Brazil
If it's works for you than use it.
I havent realized you where italian until now, my nonna and nonno came to brazil in 48 and stablished their life in san paolo. Im a fan already great videos. Ciao
hello from the uk . dont worry about your english , the way you explain in length is better than the sort answer .
ive been watching your video for sometime now. me and my wife are going to buy the yamaha 660 and travel europe we cant wait . hopefully summer 2018. anyway keep the video's coming i really enjoy watching them.
I will. Thanks for the kind words! Good luck on your adventures!
Excellent choice. My good lady and I travel thru Europe on our 660 and it's great. Carries us both all day anywhere on a tank of fuel. Very strong frame too so the extra weight is no problem. Enjoy it!
Thanks for the replay. And I can't wait for the adventure. Safe riding everyone
As usual, very peactical, no BS advice. FYI, your english is not a problem. I understand everything you're saying, and your meaning is clear enough. It's more likely that any misunderstandings between you and your viewers are the result of poor listening, but that's just my opinion. 'Love the vlog. Your advice has saved me much trial and error. Keep it up.
Jase
I have dropped my bike 2 times now! I am a old rider coming back! 30 year sins i ride . whit out my crash bars, my wallet wood be thin! So my answer to your question, YES!
kolle reke me too. I’m just coming back to motorcycles again after 30 your absence as well. First thing I did was put crash bars on it and I’m very very happy I did.
Nice vidéos, great advices; cheers from Montreal
Thanks for watching!
Keep up the great work and thank you very much from Montreal!
Thanks, will do!
Jut so correct. Thank you Pavlin.
Enjoy Riding,
Great advice as always ! Cheers my friend ! Salute !!
Glad to help!
McrRider sending props to Mr Moto Adv. Both guys educating rider community to ride safe. Thanks and CHEERS for all you do, wh ev side of the Atlantic
Excellent video Pavlin and has been said your English is very good no problems with it.
Each bike has its own needs and luckily ours need very little above the standard protection. Personally I use the yamaha alloy bash plate and puig lower protection bars, which copy the now unavailable yamaha bars. If yamaha think it needs no more who am I too argue? Light is right.
Excellent point re the handlebars too.
Happy travels.
Please do not apologize for your English skills. Your observations and analysis are always informative and interesting! Thanks so much for your great videos! :-)
Thanks Tom!
Good crash bars like Touratech (I must admit too expensive) works vey well and I think is a must if you are doing many off road travel.. It really protect the motorbike and your leg. I have seen it many times. Thanks for your advices anyway. It is very useful as always.
You.spoke well in your explanation of the crash bars and of the rest of the parts.Thanks for the video Sir.
You are welcome anytime!
Thank you for the video, good contents as always! I agree with everything, except the recommendation about a larger and more robust handlebar. We need to minimize the damages on the bike most critical and expensive parts. In case o a side crash, let the handlebar absorb the forces and bend if needed. It's a cheap component and very easy to substitute, even in remote regions. A very resistant handlebar will transfer forces to your fork and ball bearings. In a serius crash the weakest component always bends or brakes first, let the handlebar to be the weakest point. Great videos, thumbs up!!
Agree about the logic for handlebar, but when you have it you will feel it like new bike. Also, even the weak handlebar twist it will still transfer some force to the forks. So the question is what you going to choose - better handling and control or possible crash and the damages after that.
Crash guards are most important upgrade. Last weekend i hit a deer and the rock embankment. They gave enough space to not crush my leg/knee.
The background makes it harder to hear. Please stop adding music.
Thank for the perfect advice. I think you are absolutely right and for me a USA guy, your English is fine.
Thanks man, I think that my English is still better then you Bulgarian...
HaHa you're right about that. Your German, Russian, Bulgarian and even your Spanish is way better than mine.
Very informative!!!! Thank you 😎
Glad it was helpful!
I use the stock Triumph crash bars on my 800. Nothing more. I also mount foldable cruise pegs on them so I can relax and get another foot position on long highway sections. Again, another great video.
Triumph crash bars are good. They are very solid.
Great advise! thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice video. Well explained and easily understood 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the explanation! I’m a new rider and this helps.
Glad to hear it!
Very good description. I liked your English ascent, it is clear.
As always: wise words my friend!!
No need to apologize for your english. In fact the way that you speak is a large part of what makes your videos so good. Keep up the good work. I ride a GSA and I would never ever consider going the corner store for a loaf of bread with crash bars and all of the other protections that I have amassed on my bike. There are a few reasons for that, simply put, I crash a lot and that is not to say that I am still learning how to ride but more in the way of how I ride. The same lengths that I have gone to in order to protect my bike are the same lengths that I go through to put on my riding gear. I'm an offroad guy and I crash a lot.
I perfectly understand you.
Absolutely agree with you, it all depends on the bike! I have a ktm 690 smcr and the only thing that i have is radiator protector and slid plate. Everything else is unnecessary. In case of a crash, most of the damage is to handlebars, radiator. While one of my previous bikes, Moto guzzi got instant cylinder-head damage during slight fall :D
good subject, nice presentation - i am in the UK, i have a touring motorcycle, i have crash bars but the main reason is to mount lights on them to help me be seen. this is what you are saying really, to try to avoid an accident in the first place.
Exactly! Preventive riding mode is way better than any lights!
This is very good advice and very sensible.
Anytime!
You've made very good points.... I just recently slide down on my cruiser bike, and all the impacts were absorbed by the Engine guard, the crash did not affect any parts of the motorcycle, except some paint scratches on the muffler shield and engine guard itself, the engine guard was made by my motorcycle manufacturer, so they can carry a 400-lb bike easily. Moral of the story... don't just buy any third party accessories, without really studying its pros and cons, its actual application and use, including durability!
Very well said, thanks Ed!
Very good advice and well explained. I looked at many engine protectors before I found one that didn't utilize the engine case bolts to mount.. Those might damage your engine with just a tip-over. Thank-you.
Correct, I will never buy one of these.
First, your accent is NOT a problem. I find your comments on different bike subjects to be very accurate, practical and logical and I agree 99% of the time (nobody is perfect xcept me). Too many other "expert" video makers tend to overcomplicate many aspects of riding just for the enjoyment that some of us want without spending another 1,000 Euros on equipment after buying the motorcycle.
Thanks for taking the time!
'My bike crashes very well'
Brilliant. I use to say that to people about my 1979 Z650, which was pretty much bullet proof, but sadly the same could not be said for me. I've gotten better as time has passed, but it's just reassuring to know that some other people will _admit_ to falling off a lot too 🥰
(Hence why I'm here to try and discover if I should buy some crash bars for my Kawasaki Versys 650 [stick with what you know 😉])
Thanks for taking the time!
English is my 1st language and I understand you perfectly. Cant see a need on lightweight dual sport. But case savers a must. Skid plate too...
True
Thanks a lot for the info 👍👍👍
New subscriber here, thanks for the tips, I'm currently studying to get my driver license and I was asking this exact question, thanks for sharing this with us :)
Thanks! I am glad that you found the info you need. Good luck on your future trips.
Great video and advice.
Thanks Shawn!
very good information, thanks
Greetings From India. Nice learning
You are doing a great job!! Thank you sir!.
You are welcome anytime!
Keep up the good work!
I will, thanks!
Very good Sir, cheers.
Im a new subscriber. 1st video. I like what you do. 10/10
Awesome, thank you!
I used to ride a Honda SL350. It was a fun bike to ride, on or off road. I ran it all over California. The first time I road in gravel, was also my first time off road. As soon as I felt the tires wandering around, I stiffened up, and quickly went over, with the bike pinning me to the ground. I watched my friend ride out of sight, and then reappear soon after. I noticed that he was wobbling precariously, and after he stopped, I realised that it was because he was laughing so hard.
I hated soft surfaces. They were miserable to ride on until someone gave me the advice to just relax, and let the back tire do what it would do. I decided to try that out, and it worked. I never dumped the bike again, though I did drop it a few times, and I learned to enjoy that floating feeling you experience on gravel.
Would crash bars likely hold the bike off the ground enough that your leg would be less likely to be pinned under the bike?
They might helps in some cases...
Good point about the handle bars. Those are the first to impact the planet.
I understand your English 100%, One would have to be a knucklehead to misunderstand your speech. Excellent!
One of the problems with current motorcycles is the folding foot pegs. The old system of a solid bar running underneath the bike gave excellent protection to the engine and gear/brake pedals. Sure it would get bent but it was an easy job to pull it off and straighten it. Also the steel brake an clutch levers would just bend and could be straightened.
Yes, there is no perfect world. One on the cost of another.
One issue with crash bars is if you drop the bike going slow then they are fine to protect the engine and panels, the big problem comes if you have a higher speed dismount, say the classic low side, if you lose the front and the bike slides along on its side.
If the crash bars slide down the road smoothly then that is good but if they catch on something like a rock or a tree root the bike could flip up in the air and do lots more damage, a high side if you prefer.
Sometimes it is better to have something minor break than have it rigid so there is no give in it.
Same sort of thing they build into hard panniers in the event of a slide, the pannier will break off its mounts to prevent the dreaded high side.
Nothing is perfect, it all becomes a compromise.
Correct, as I said they could be very useful, but also useless. Thanks for adding it!
You are right about the high side risk being likely increased with crash bars if you loose the bike at highspeed offroad.
On the other side the general rule is let the bike go when you fall and with the crashbars hopefully the rider will worry less about the bike and let it go earlier for increased safety.
GOOD ADVICE ON THE CRASH BAR,WELL EXPLAIN
Thanks!
I am Australian... Your English is very, very good! - Great video mate!
Thanks, man!
Great video, your English is good mate, like your humour too, am subscribing to your channel
Awesome, thank you!
your english is clearly understood, better than mine. and i like your accent and spirit...
Thanks, man!
Sir been watching your videos for a while and learning a lot even after riding for over 24 years... great job on ever video.... I'm a true believer on crush bars , I've been down lots of times and crush bars saved my motorcycle all the time... my motorcycle not me😁
Hi Antonio, thanks for watching and commend this video! As I said it's really depends from the bike and the situation.
Motorcycle Adventures I agree
That’s the way it is Pavlin, there is nothing more to say 💫, everybody can improve his riding skills with the right instructor/training/workshop, and keep on riding all the time to become more experienced day by day
Thanks man!
Good video. Thanks
Glad you liked it!
A difficult topic well explained. Everybody watching this video should now could decide on their own, if he or she nedds crash bars or not. Thanks a lot for this! :-)
This is the idea, because all needs and bikes are different.
that's true, like a life... tnx bro...👍🏽
As always.. perfect advice. bad for aftermarket business..
Your english is extraordinary, don't worry ! Ride safe ;)
I love your language.please feel free. 6 months ago I had an accident with Honda NC 700x. I hit The bars. I can clearly say that givi crash bars didn't protect my left leg. I still go to physical therapy and there are many months to cover. The protection depends on the model and brand.
I am sorry to heard that! I hope that you will be able to recover fast and jump on the bike again. Thanks for watching and commend it my friend!
On my Suzuki V-strom, my crashbars have saved me $$$ numerous times: they have saved my fairings (very expensive to replace) when the bike has dropped, and it will drop when touring. I would suggest that if one only does highway riding etc... then perhaps not, but even then, soft asphalt and soft dirt when parked will cause issues as well. I have mototech crashbars btw. They've never bent, but I've had to polish and paint them a few times.
Pavlin, thanks for another great video. I have a BMW F800GS Adventure. Recently added the Adventure Spec crashbars after a lot of research and thinking. They are 11Kg, and really change the handling of my bike. Not only are they heavy, but they are quite tall, too, so you're adding weight high up. It was much more nimble before. On balance I think I need them, but there is a high price to pay in terms of handling.
Well, protection always coming with its price - ask the knights. Thanks for watching my friend!