Lets discuss the 1.0 Ford ecoboost engine
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2023
- Hi there! you seemed to like these sort of videos so i thought id make another in this mini series! stay tuned for other types of engines and gearboxes etc... Lets discuss today the 1.0 Ford ecoboost engine briefly and a couple of well known common problems.
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Had both belts changed at 10 years old 50k miles, only main dealer would do the job, two and half day job, £1,400. Factor this in if you buy a used one.
My mechanic said he do it for me for about £500
@@Antonio-gq6fx yeah, could be okay. As others say it is a 'dockyard' job. There are no gaskets, huge number of different bolts are angle tightened so can't be reused and both timing and oil pump belts are needed. Many report doing huge mileage without problems, it just your luck whether they fail.
thats the thing that people who take it to cheap places fail to account for @@johnrockley9472
@@Antonio-gq6fx aboutsiluty ridiculous 🙄
Shit needs to change the timing belt max 7 years or 80kkm... particles from belt can cosu sirius faluare. Belt particles block path for oil on prptection net oil sump gate.
My mate runs a garage and it depresses me when he tells me about the faults in modern vehicles. Anyone would think manufacturers didn't want them to last.
Manufacturers don't want them to last, they want you to keep spending for overpriced parts and overpriced labour charges.
@@billmoore7137 Yes, then get so fed up of your unreliable car that you buy another one.
How else do you keep the accountants happy? Continous unsustainable growth. Aslong as it lasts the first finance agreement who cares..
You can also blame the governments for redesigns due to constant emissions restrictions
@@petea7323 They could have used cogwheels, they are there for the balance shafts anyway.
I have a 1 litre ecoboost Fiesta 2013 152350 miles Belt changed at 150000 Belt showed little wear I have serviced it myself in my 5 years of ownership never let me down fantastic car. Look after it and will look after you. Last 8 cars all Ford all high mileage never had any trouble.
Vous avez fais la courroie après quel âge ? Merci
Do you regularly service ? What do you think has helped get the high mileage
@@MccarthyUK100 Yes i believe that regular oil and filter changes are very important A lot depends on the type of driving style you have. I tend to be gentle on acceleration don't labour the engine change down when it appears to be straining remember it is a small-capacity engine
Ford designer: hey, I've got a great idea. Let's build a sub-motorcycle size engine for a family saloon car. Even better, we can design it so the rubber bands driving critical parts are continually soaked in oil; hot oil when it's running, but don't worry about that - think of the money we can make from scheduled rubber band replacements...
But a belt gets 1% better fuel efficency than a timing chain which would also last the life of the engine in most instances.
You’d be better off shoe honing a 1000cc bike engine into it instead, would last longer
@@madbadger85 Hayabusa springs to mind!!
@@madbadger85 Indeed, I never had any trouble with my 1000 cc Kawasaki.
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One day someone will invent a low stressed all iron pushrod inline 7 main bearing 6 cylinder engine.
Had ford used a dry belt or a chain from the beginning it would probably be considered one of the best engines in car production today , well done ford , you messed up big style .
The current 1.0 EB has a chain finally, if I've been informed correctly
@@petermolnar8667After 2020 most do use timing chains. They do however still have a wet belt in the oil pump as far as I know.
@@Whykles98 thanks!
Yep
@@Whykles98really ffs
I have a 2013 fiesta ecoboost, and had a belt tensioner go, and damaged 2 exhaust valves on pot 1 & 2. Looking at the original tensioner the tensioner spring on it was held in place with plastic bars, and that’s what went and released the tension. I have rebuilt the top of the engine with new valves and belt kit, the new tensioner spring is held in place by metal thank god. As for the crank bolt I invested in a Milwaukee M18 Fuel ratchet with a nut busting torque of 1385 nm, I heated the bolt as I was replacing the crank seal, and it came out straight away no problem. For those who want to know the bolt has a torque of 720 nm!
@@MattChalker9 Its done 22k miles you plank. It should run with 0 fault at such l,ow mileage.
@@MattChalker9 What was that? Can you repeat it in English? My point still stands your car has done sod all in terms of mileage so it shouldn't have any issues.
As an old guy who started working as a mechanic in the late 1960s I formed an opinion then which has only been reinforced over the years since, namely never touch a Ford with a barge pole. They've kept me in work many times but they were the pits way back then and if anything they've just got worse for a ton of reasons.
mine is at 95000km, a 2015 Ford Tourneo Eco. so now its getting 9 yrs old. commuted every workday 2*22km, very salty road in the winter, now the underside is very rusty! Engine seems still ok, did more than recommended oil-changes, always good synthetic as in handbook.
I was a fan of VW until the management decided to build a 12_cyl for themselves! Then I changed to Fiat and now am proud of my Tourneo. Actually I bought the Ford quite by chance, when I was looking for a used car for my daughter. Used cars were all so old and high priced, suddenly I saw the Ford sales offer, changed my plans and bought it right away! Gave my Fiat Punto to my daughter; both cars still running.
Didn't regret it; except that the 3_cyl is a bit rough starting uphill in snow!
Once I couldn't get out of a snowy Garage, uphill, because the wheels were initially "rumbly" and car slipped sideways.
With Ford's it isn't they build bad cars, but more that the mechanics, sales, and customers don't understand what Ford's engineers have designed! Lack of information/communication technical! Not really malicious intent; when I recognize THAT it is "over"!
One critic to the engineers: if they had designed the oilywet belt in an O_shaped run it would last much longer! the X_shaped run causes much more bending of the rubber material. An O_shaped run could have lasted 400000km.
It''s a great little engine if you're hiring the car. Which I did a small handful of years ago, quite a lively little beast I thought!
The idea of the wetbelt is that the oil is supposed to preserve the belt so you dont have to have it changed as much as usual, so you have the smoothness and cheapness of a belt but the reliability of a chain but weather this actually works or not is another thing. Ive seen it work for some people and dont forget a lot of these engines have been sold, so proportianlly they might not have as many issues, I think a big part of it is the right oil being used (ford spec 5w-20) at regular intervals to help the belt. Also engine flushes apparently wreak havock on the belt so dont do that but this may contribute to the issues as some dealers/mechanics/people may put the wrong oil in or flush the engine.
No, that's not the reason why some manufacturers choose this (idiotic) wet cambelt. It's because in comparison, to a normal dry cambelt, and a wet chain, the usage of a wet cambelt, is the one with less friction, and therefore the engine will get a marginal better gas mileage, so the numbers from the manufacturer, looks better, when selling the car new. Manufacturers couldn't care less about preservation of the belt, if they did, they wouldn't state that a 1.0 Ecoboost with wet belt, can go 20.000 km' between oil changes, which is way too much, for all cars, especially one with a wet belt, where every little grain of grit can damage the rubber on the belt.
@@IncognitoX8 Yeah, I watched another tear down of this engine. The belt literally got destroyed by stuff in the oil, it got porous, then soaked in all this dirt and debris. It started to melt, created slime and that slime was everywhere in the engine. It is such stupid thing to do apparently. You want the least amount of non-metal material inside that oil chamber
对 应该加入正确的机油 5w20最好
This is nonsense who told you that.Oils have detergents in them which is contributory to breakdown
It is totally not the idea! It is mainly because of less friction so that they can keep using it in newer Euro pollution norms. Regular oil changes do extend the service on the belt a bit, but don't solve the problem of a belt that not supposed to be in contact with oil. So many well maintained cars that broke down because of belt issues. Let alone the Stellantis 1.2 PureTech that has it too. There are cases of only 30k km's and a belt that broke because it got porous. It skipped some teeth after, destroying the engine fully. Also multiple cases of oil starvation because the teeth of the belt break off. Ford and the Stellantis group changed their service plan to lower km's per service, and also for belt changes which are very expensive. Stellantis charges €2200,- for a belt change in some dealerships.
Multiple garages that I spoke to are speaking of "rubbish" engines that are designed like this. Good garages advise you even to skip these engines... just like the gen. 1 and 2 TFSI from VW(because of different reasons).
As this is the 10th year of the engine in a fiesta, and the belt replacement is 10 years or 150' 000 or 125'000 miles depending on who you talk to.
I think people who know will want a cast iron guarantee that the belts (there is also the wet belt from the crank to the oil pump) or a £1'000 min off the asking price.
We took our 2013 fiesta ecboost 125bhp to 108'000 miles with nothing other than annual oil and filter changes, 1 set of spark plugs and 1 pair of front lower wish bone arms,.
But spending over £1000 on an " invisable" belt change on a £3000 car was to mad even for my man maths, so we part chopped and got a 3 pot 12'000 mile kia rio.
Why the wishbones?
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Because the ball joint on the passanger side was worn and an mot advisory, you can get just the ball joint or for not much more the whole arm and if you do 1 side you can bet the other side is nearly as worn, for £53 for the pair with drop links thrown in and 3 hours of laying on my back on the drive one Saturday, and a tracking check done locally for £30 it was peace of mind.
The older ecoboost engines had a problem with the cylinder head. There is a groove between pots 2 and 3 and this is a weak spot where gasket blows.
I thought that was isolated to the 1.5 and 2.0 ecoboost engines??????
I saw you remove the front cover to get to the wet timing belt and I already hate that engine.
Vary informative, i would rather keep my 1.6 focus with 4 pots .Great engine along as you change the cambelt & auxiliary belts.
I did my research back in 2019 when I was buying a newer long term car, I avoided cars with Electronic parking brakes, I avoided 3 cyclinder engines, I avoided cars with wheels more than 16 inches big, I avoided keyless start and I avoided belt driven engines wet or otherwise. I ended up with a 2016 Toyota Auris 1.2 turbo. Its brilliant.
@@gravemind6536 Might have been a good idea to also avoid direct injection and turbo cars, both of which can end up causing big expensive problems which older tech cars don't suffer from.
Whomever approved the wet belt design should be flogged with wet belts for the rest of his life. In between floggings, he should have to spend his time replacing wet belts on these POS engines. This has to be in the top 10 of the most stupid design decisions ever made on a modern engine.
Thanks for the info about the timing belt ! Just about to take delivery of a 2019 with 9000 miles Blue ST Line this week 👍
Think it's only the 1L ecoboost engines that have a wet belt
And the diesels
Good vlog I have an ecoboost 1 litre automatic on a 68 plate
I’m wondering 🤔 would it be worth someone making a replacement chain instead of the rubber belt specifically for this engine which would I assume last a lot longer and have permanent lubrication and no fragments coming off
Hello good afternoon, just one question, do you think this problem with the belt bathed in oil has been resolved with the new Puma engines, where it now has a metallic chain, thank you
my favorite part is the fact they use a belt that notorasley fail my disintegrating when wet with oil then cloges the oil pickup..
i can only expect some one to come out with an aftermarket chain setup.
Chains have their demons too. Just ask VW.
The oil pump drive belt also sheds its rubber skin and dams up the oil pick up assembly. Replace both belts!
I was told years ago by an old mechanic if your timing belt gets contaminated by oil, change it asap as it will eventually snap!! And that was on Vauxhall Victor engines which were non interference engines. I had one that lost its teeth on a bit of belt, about an 8" stretch of belt, that stopped the engine starting, but no other damage.
Just recently forked out £1400 to get both belts done, new plugs and a new VVT cam bolt. 90k miles so I thought it made sense. Car running well, hope to get another 90k as I really like my Fiesta. By the way, needed a new vacuum non return valve. Original broke up. New one £10 from internet. Easy to check, easy to fix. Screws up the boost when broken
The Ford Puma 1.5l that and Hybrid model that uses a Chain timing inatead of wet belt has some over design improvements for any of these described issues? Does chain timing still uses a wet belt for oil pump and still clog the oil strainer?
thanks jim good video .😃
Hi Jim, great videos on Ecoboost. I had a reconditioned engine fitted to mine, 2017 Focus 1.0 Ecoboost automatic. It has an oil leak between engine and gearbox. Could it be because the engine is not for an automatic? Ford dealership are not very helpful. Weren't able to tell me if engines for manual and auto are the same or different. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Not a bad idea but requires perfect maintenance
I had the beginnings of a similar issue with my PSA puretech 1.2 which are known for the same wet belt disintegration. Fortunately I got rid before the engine grenaded itself. Ended up with a Mazda3 Skyactiv petrol which has been stupidly reliable over 3 years. The only issue I've had is the soul red paint peeling off on one side of the car due to a shoddy repair.
The Ford engine is much better if you compare it to the PSA PureTech. Worn out belts and broken engines in 30k km's. Terrible idea to use wet belts. Even with the correct spec oil, they are destroyed like nothing...
I had my 2014 1.2 vti puretech C3 belt replaced at 10 years
When i was looking for a replacement for my mk2 focus estate i considered a 1.0 ecoboist but reading all the horror stories i got a 2.0tdci 163 pug built engine well better
Hit 130k on mine yesterday
My wife’s 2003 Ford focus 1.6 ebony with 84.000 miles on the clock has now had 2 timing belts fitted on because of its age on because we don’t think the first garage change the water pump out which he changed use for and the pump went a couple of years ago so new belts fitted the last thing to going out wrong happened a few weeks ago was the power steering pressure switch blew out but was cheap to have fixed apart from a window regulator and brake parts the car runs great my car is the work horse been a diesel 1.6 2015 Astra j with 54.000 miles on it the I need a glow plug replaced which cost a lot because they have a pressure sensor on them It has a timing chain which is at the rear of the engine so hopefully it will last because it would cost a small future to replace
Cool vid chap, all new to me this ...wet belt lol no way .....thanks
Ive got the 155 in a puma manual its an amazing engine and i will do regulat oil and belt service evry year it should do 250 000 if im lucky i had a focus 125 for 4 years not a problem
Is a shame as is a great ideal I've got 110000 miles on mine and as of yet no problems and still running smooth fingers crossed.
i have 142.000km on my 2013 fiesta and it also runs fine but I'm getting the wetbelt, oil pump belt ,and water pump changed by ford in Germany very soon and the cost of it is 1590€ that's also with cleaning the oil pump, engine and new oil it is a good amount of money but i think nothing that breaks your neck and funny is a other ford work shop wanted 2200€ and i drove to another ford just in the village next to it and they only want 1590€ and i guess going to a garage that isn't ford would cost less but i do rather have it done by ford
Great video. Can you swap this 1 litter turbo junk with the 1.6 natural aspirated fiesta engine? Are they both interchangeable? Thanks in advance
I dont know to be honest, ive not seen it done, im sure theres a way to do it but it wouldnt be a case of slapping an engine in, it would need the motor mounts modifying and also all the loom, ecu's etc to go with the 1.6 id imagine
I’ve had a 66 plate fiesta that has run faultlessly, I’ve just bought a 15 plate Titanium which is very low mileage and like new however I’ve had top up the coolant in the header tank a couple of times, I’m guessing it’s leaking from the water pump O’ring which is annoying to say the least
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I thought that sound was normal for this engine.That’s exactly how my one sounds.
How old is yours and whats the mileage on it? I would say mine sounds about the same and I wouldn't have thought that this sound comes from oil deprivation. I read that in some cases the oil pressure light will turn on indicating a clogged oil pump, but mine hasn't had that happen at all. Now I am worried if I need to move quickly on my appointment in about a month. Mine is scheduled for the belt change after 10 yrs and its a big bullet to bite, but otherwise the car is great imo.
Mine sounds the same and my engine is fine.
I have two, as long as the belts are changed 100k or before they are amazing engines. Will last even longer if you run a good grade gas or tune it for ethanol. No way I'm running 87 crap gas on a 20psi 10:1 compression engine.
My wife has a 1 litre 136BHP Fiesta Vignale of 2018 vintage & I can't fault it except at very low revs, it needs to be spinning to move. We've had no mechanical problems with it whatsoever, however the Sync 3 has been a constant pain in the arse & we can't get any DAB channels at all.
Replaced my belt just now, pain in the ass to do but no special tools required apart from the locking tools
strange thing with these motors is that you get a lot of them that are fine at high mileage! We had a Ford Focus 1L for a pool car at a office i used to work at. it was a 2013 and had over 90k on the clock when i left in 2017. We did not take good care of that car and it was going as strong as the day we got it. it only had the one service a year! it can be pot luck!
Like anything in life , its the luck of the draw, some people get loads of problems others get none. Thanks for watching 👍
I've kept up to date on this as I've had one for 10 years. Seems in many cases the oil pump belt tensioner fails then the teeth get stripped off the belt. This reduces the oil pressure as the pump is not properly driven and the sheared teeth are then sucked into the oil pickup killing the oil pressure completely and destroying the engine. Luck of the draw when yours fails
@@dectoasd3644there is no tensioner on the oil pump belt.
Our 2014 ecoboost Focus estate engine hanging mount bolt under the battery, snapped. Luckily it happened while pulling away from our driveway? Needless to say the scenarios that could've ended in tragedy if this happened at speed doesn't bear thinking about???
I did a service on one of these and who thought it would be a good idea to put the oil filter where it is. It just makes a complete mess when you take the thing off.
The main thing those days you need to do with those turbo little engines is to do a oil serwis every 10kkm or faster. For the wet belt every oil serwis check/inspect the (i dont know whats the technical english word) oil suction gasket and clean it.
Please make a discussion about the 1,6 TDCi engine. Like to hear What you think about it
Peugeot engine 1.6 hdi engine is the same as the 1.6 Tdci ford equivalent, a lot more reliable than this 1.0 ecoboom junk. But they can suffer engine failure it's a known issue but still a great engine in my opinion
Kindky I need your opinion about ford Ecoboost gasoline engine 1.5 L
Thank you
Hallo goedemiddag, even één vraag: denkt u dat dit probleem met de in olie badende riem is opgelost bij de nieuwe Puma-motoren, waar deze nu een metalen ketting heeft, dank u
I had a ford fiesta 2018 with the same problem, my local garage told me its because i am not using the correct oil which was true. This engine problem mainly comes when the wrong oil is used which heats up the wet belt and makes it block the oil pump
Having had 64 plate now for 5 years done 80000 recently replaced new clutch and flywheel for a cost of £580 then to a new timing belt and oil pump for a cost of £980 which is a lot but finding someone willing to do it and do it well was difficult looking forward to hopefully a good few years of payment free stress free motoring cheap to run does the job mine has a st kit which makes it look a little nicer than the standard but who gives a shit I love my 1 PoP eco boost got some poke for a 1 litre also thinking lots of clutches and timing belts due to go bang if those have or looking at similar age vehicles
Nah, you'll have more bills soon, get rid while it's still running.
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k like what? Give me a run down of 3-4 parts you think will go I’d say I’ve covered 3 of em
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k I'm on 100,000 miles. Not a single issue at all.
I have one with 100k on it. I changed my belt 12000mls ago and my belt was toothless on 15% of the belt - 1 tooth from skipping time and a miracle it didnt fail on me. I have done a lot of extra oil changes and more than most do. I have changed the hpfp and ppl have been saying it can also leak down through the plunger and cause a dillution. Is that a failure you have heard as its not mentioned? My belt should not have been so deterioated with the better service interval i've been doing - i have mostly done 5-8k oil changes - but a lot of ppl have been doing longer intervals than mine and had much less wear on the timingbelt..
I’ve had the ecoboost engine in two of my cars now 2014 focus and currently 2019 focus and have had no issues! But in saying that I do change the oil every six months my 2014 focus done 168k with absolutely no issues 🤷♂️I was told from the very start change the oil as often as you can because it protects the engine?
@@SilverSeeker232 I do about 40k a year and was told the reason the belts on the ecoboost fails prematurely (this was going back in 2014 was the recommended time ford said you change your oil which is ridiculous) because the filter in the sump blocks up and old oil degrades the belt so I’ve just stuck to every six months do an oil change (April, September 🤷🏻) must say though it is a stupid system whoever invented it needs to go back to engineering school………just use a chain! Or make it a non-interference engine!
@@SilverSeeker232ford recomend oil and filter change every one year or 20000 km same on psa puretec engines
My 2015 titanium fiesta ecoboost suffered oil starvation due to the oil piclup strainer getting clogged with sediment from the wet belt.. Car had a full service history. If only they had used a chain this engine would have been brilliant.
Well it would have been better.... the newer models did come with a chain 👍
My 2015 fiesta did exactly the same thing.
Chains have their demons too. Just ask VW.
Do you know when the newer models started to come with chain ? 🙂@@ALLTHINGSJIM
@@FuseItAllthe ones with the intake manifold at the front of the car and exhaust towards the rear have a chain. The engines with the exhaust manifold at the front and intake at the rear have the wet belt
I inherited a Fiesta Eco boost off my mum 3.5 yrs ago. Full service history. I only do 3k miles per year in the countryside so mostly doing 60mph in 5th. It's been a dream to drive. Never missed a beat, and surpassed all expectations of a 1L engine.
Today, it died as I was entering town. The power just went from the engine completely. I think it was still running but nothing from the accelerator. It then demanded a manual restart, but it wouldn't restart. There were no dodgy noises, nothing.
My mechanic called me and has been vague about the cause, but says it's irreparable. It's only done 48,000 miles since 2013.
Pregúntale...
I can almost guarantee what that is (because the exact same thing happened to my son 2 weeks ago). Either the plastic tensioning arm for the wet belt shifted or snapped, or the wet belt itself had disintegrated enough to clog the oil lines. Either way, that'll lead to a zero warning immediate superheat of the engine - forget blowing the head gasket, it'll crack the head or block.
My son's car with 48k miles on it was an economic write-off (worth about £2,500 in good nick, but a recon engine was at least £2,000 to fit). I've kept the report from the mechanics diagnosing the split block in case Ford Europe ever decides to actually come clean about this lunatic design and do the right thing.
Ford USA has already gone for a full recall of all vehicles using its 3 pot 1.0 Ecoboost engine - about 140,000 vehicles affected over there (which isn't many). Ford Europe is still pretending nothing's wrong (almost certainly because there's an awful lot more than 140,000 vehicles affected in Europe).
Moral: NEVER buy a Ford.
It doesn't stack up too well to the previous normally aspirated 1.6 Sigma (Duratec SE) engine. Similar power output, similar fuel mileage much less reliable and much more complicated.
My 23 Focus 1.0L gets 54mpg imp. Great performance but will do oil every 7-8k miles.
My 09 1.8TDCI focus gets 60mpg and oil changed every 5-6,000mls
Are the 1.5 engines any better?
I’ve heard these engines don’t last that long due to the high piston speed of only three cylinders and small capacity?
How does the chain driven version of this engine compare with the wet belt? Is it proving to be more reliable or is it one to avoid as well?
It is more reliable yes, however there are some instances of the oil pump belt breaking up still due to it still being a rubber type wet belt. Hope that helps 👍
Recent ones have a chain.
My engine is loosing power when my rpm goes beyound 2000, ive changed the fuel fillter twice and also the fuel pump and the problem is still there, what might be causing that?
My step daughter has a 23,000 mile 2012 Ford Focus with this engine that she got off her Grandad before he died, she then listened to me and had the car given a Major service with water pump, replacement belts and sump clean, Brake fluid change and wheel alignment at a cost of £1800 all because she wouldn't get rid of the car and get something a little more reliable and with less destructive common issues. I bloody hate the car, I have had cars that suffer major issues like the 2,0 diesel on a BMW where the chain goes but at least if you catch the chain it hasn't caused oil starvation.
A truly disposable car, by the time the wet belt needs changing the car is worth 20% of what it was when new (because everyone knows about the belt problem) and the cost of replacing the belt, oil pump drive belt, idler pulleys, tensioner etc make it uneconomic to do.
Costs £1000 to £1500 to get it done at an independent. Expensive but when 9-10 year old comparable cars are at car supermarkets for £8000, spending £1200 on the car you have is often cheaper than buying another 10 year old box of unknown problems.
8k for a car of that age!!!!! Don't know where you are buying your cars from? But they've seen you coming!!😂😂😂
Pure nonsense. When you use the RIGHT oil with Ford specifications. than they run for many many years without a problem.
All does negative comments are all from Ford haters. 🤮
Yes you're talking pure nonsense at least we can agree on that!😂😅😂😅@scooby0000
@@scooby0000 How long is 'many many years' ? 10,15 more? and how is it that a class action against Ford for this very problem has been upheld in court.
Isn't there an aftermarket timing chain conversion for this engine as it is a good compact engine to put in the classic mini being around the same weight as the original A series and much more powerful .I hired a 1 liter Ford Focus S line which had this engine and it was a very nippy car that could cruise all day at 100 mph (Sorry Avis) although it sounds a bit like a diesel but hopefully its faults can be ironed out ready for my imaginary mini conversion!
Should be called eco boom . I had a 2014 with only 40 k on it and gearbox went . I had been planning selling it private as I'd of been ripped off trading in. Effing thing went on the day I picked up a Mazda cx5 . Now my Mazda playing up with engine problems . Some folk just dont have any luck . Mitsibushi l200 I bought for work , engine blew after 3 month .
a new or nearly new focus is on my radar atm, but i just dont like the idea of 3-pots, even though i've never had one, and neither do i like the idea behind mhev, maybe i should look for an older model, as i last bought a new focus in 2003 and had it 15 years until i got rid, which i only did because after passing every MOT first time, never needing a new exhaust, belt, clutch etc, it was great, but it all came at once and was unviable to repair. I only do about 4-5k miles a year max so maybe it's a bit of a waste of money to spend around £20-£25k. any opinions welcome, but don't suggest electric please :)
Mazda 3 is great
@@nani5302 i bought a 2019 focus titanium X 1500cc 4 pot in the end, it's low mileage, i got it at what's a good price (these days) & it run's great, i'm well happy. I still don't know what a 3 pot runs like like, but hard to believe it will be as good. GLL
Hi Jim, have the same engine. Got a little issue, on idle engine revs up to about 1.5k rpm for a bit and then makes a puff sound and then rpm drops back down. Keeps cycling like this, what can this be?
Hi, thats almost an impossible question without actually having the car to diagnose although my first thought as Ive seen something similar before would be to check the vaccum pump on the back of the exhaust cam on the right hand side of the engine block, they can sometimes go faulty and need replacing, also check the plastic pipe ontop of it is secure and no splits 👍
My ecoboom overheated 2 weeks ago today. I serviced it twice a year. Only done 55k. Still sitting outside my house waiting to be fixed 😂😂
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When I changed the oil on our ecoboost engine I found tiny bits of red plastic in the old oil. Any guesses where the plastic comes from? The engine runs fine!
I saw that in one movie of repairing this engine. Probably oil filter gasket (from inside) broke down, and was sucked inside of engine.
You better sell that car because oil pressure starvation (because oil canals might be blocked by that red gasket) might slowly break car
Cambelt tensioner?
How should the engine sound then? With the bonnet up I don't think I've heard anything much different than that on any small petrol engines. What is the tell tale noise amongst the typical tickover pings? Thanks.
I was thinking the same as the engine in the video sounds like all 1L ecoboost engines I've heard including my own.
@@bobp6742Also depending on what microphone he was using (maybe from a phone) it can illusion the sound to what it actually sounds like.
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Yep good point, same as my speakers might not produce the sound.
The 1.2 pure tech good little engine but also has a wet belt... Any kits to convert to dry belt ?
yes run the engine without oil
Recently bought a 2015 1.0 125, good fun to drive and returns around 45mpg. But I am worried about the potential problems, don't know if it's worth getting the belt changed early
Yes I would if you can find someone reliable to do it and you plan on keeping the car long term, prevention is better than cure as the saying goes 👍
Mines done 80000 just had new timing belt and oil pump £980 difficult to find someone willing to do it and do it well
@@BuzzcockaThat's crazy, you can buy a whole (more reliable) car for that.
@@user-sf7kl9uh7k name 1 car payed fully now hopefully run it into the ground with less chance of it going boom 🤣
@@Buzzcocka Well my Vectra was £650, that was two years ago.
188,000 original engine/gearbox/drive shafts and PS system. You're Ecoboosting isn't going to do that.
As you say, why on earth did they use a wet belt, probably an efficiency ecco design. I got quoted £1500 from Ford to change mine, they say most customers will get them changed early at 9years to preserve warranty.
Yeah they said it was to help reduce friction so in turn help mpg/emissions it also was meant to extend the life of the belt but it definitely wont last the 150k miles change interval for the belt that ford recommends
what has a warrany past 9 years
How would i find out if my car uses a wet belt? I have a 68 plate fiesta mk8 1.0l 100hp?
If your engine block is the same as the one shown it will be a wet belt, the chain ones look slightly different... later chain ones look like this...
imgur.io/a/Za6Jp4i
Hi, I have 1.0 eco 2015-16 model I recently encountered a problem with with fan overruns and switch off minutes after stopping and the car lost power with alarm of 'power reduced to cool the engine' when I drive less than 80kph the temp is normal but above rises and reduce the acc power. What might be the problem?
Did you figure out what the problem was?
Common overheating issues gave mine back as close to blowing engine up or setting on fire at that time we part exed for a 64 plate to this day still have it luckily no issues since
Had all of these problems on my car one after the other Ford replaced engine after cylinder head went due to pipe failure.then injectors went and had to be replaced I've also had 3 starter motors.
Now the wet belt has gone after 25k miles!!!
Can you say if the new mk 4 focus has a chain or a wet belt mine is a 2020 1.0 ecoboost st line.
Honestly I dont know, I no longer work for ford however i know some are chain
The mk 4 focus has a chain but a wet belt to drive the oil pump to my relief.
Fantastic to drive but long term it's a lottery with these, Personally I'd never own a wet belt engine the whole concept make's the engine disposable as the vehicle ages.
Great motor - best we’ve had.
You must drive some rubbish mate
@@rayswann7618 - Well, it’s responsive, loads of torque, loves to rev, great sound, and has never missed a beat. So what’s not to love? In our experience definitely not rubbish.
Same.
I have a 2017 Ford Focus ST Line, which has the 1 litre ecoboost engine. My sump strainer got blocked as the wet belt disintegrated , starved the turbo of oil, here I sit £1,500 l8ghter.
Just found a Ford Focus. 1.0 turbo 100 Cv 2012 that looked pretty good but i got into the internet and seeing all these problems...well i really don't know what to do.
Is there a specific year or model i should avoid? Could use some advice with this.
cheers
Im on my 2nd car with this engine. I had a Focus with 125bhp, and now i have a Puma with 155bhp. So far so good. The new car is very zippy.
Motor has changed ….i dont know if u still have wet belt i think is not there anymore
I have a 155 puma. It has a redesigned engine with chain driven cams although the oil pump still has the small wet belt drive.
like an athlete on drugs no longevity
@@robboles5233you've still got the problem then!!! Good luck with the maintenance/repair bills 😅😂😂😂😂
I have a half cut should I need to repair my car.
I bought a 2016 1.0l Fiesta Titanium EcoBoost almost 2 years ago and even though i don't have any problems i do regret buying one. A cheaper little car with 100bhp under the bonnet and great econemy ratings, my mind of ignorance was sold. I might keep it for another 2 years then sell it. If not before.
Why do you regret it?
@@Mona-.- To be completely honest, i don't. I think it's great and i never have a problem with it. I think at the time i made that main comment my anxiety was playing up because of all the "horror stories" for this engine.
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 oh fair enough. I bought a cheap(ish) one recently for my first car and I’ve been loving it, but I’ve also been worried about the horror stories lol. Especially the fact that people casually call them ecoboom engines. The 107k mile odometer doesn’t help either. How many miles does yours have?
@@Mona-.- 39,000 on mine and i look after it as much as possible getting it serviced every year and not driving like an idiot. I'm confident mine will last at least a good 5 - 7 more years before i change it. How old is yours?
@@rufusgreenleaf2466 my ones a 2014 one. I bought it in like september. New timing belt and oils and stuff. However I had to buy new spark plugs due to a couple occasions where it’d misfire. Im lucky they’re cheap. When the mechanic pulled them out they were all charcoal black.
Car seems to run perfectly fine now but I was scared at the time cuz I’m new to cars and I had no idea why I suddenly lost like all of my engine power.
How did this engine win so many awards? Exactly who said it was good when it has consistently failed with the same problem over and over?
Awards are given for efficiency etc. when the engine is new + this won most of the awards in the sub 1lt class when there weren't many competitors.
what milage is the engine
You just made my mind up, am not going to buy the foucs I was looking at yesterday
Ah the good ol' Ford egoboom !
I have 2013 model, been standing for years now, cant get it to run.
The wet belt idea scared me from the beginning, pure cheap skate, a chain would have been more suitable!
We have a 1.25 2016 Fiesta its smooth but gutless. The 1.0 engines are 'chinese style' it seems ie as cheap as possible in their construction. My daughter has the 1.1 TiVct engine which has been okay so far at 32K miles. But I am guessing its construction is the same as the 1.0 engine ??
Brought a transit 250 glade it not a eco boost, they say it better mpg being a 3.5 vs 3.7 but everybody getting around 14 mpg but the non boost 3.7 Iam getting 20 mpg, let the fast shift 6 speed move the van as it very torque and I never go above 2k but still it fast
Got 1 of these and its just under 10 years old with nearly 60k (owned since 3k). I'm in 2 minds if I should spend the money on a replacement wet belt. As in 10 years its been a good car for my needs. I've changed the oil twice yearly and filters, plugs at 35k. As for repairs, pads and discs (twice), tyres a number of times. Track rod end, lower control arm. Free on road tax currently.
My 2013 facelift fiesta ecoboost is basically on 10 years with 140.000km on it I'm definitely considering getting it changed soon just in case and i love that car so if i have to pay 1200€ or 1500€ i think it's worth it
Ah yea i will guess you should still be fine if you change your oil 2 times a year with 5w 20 only
@@SilverSeeker232 Yep, light goes out quickly and doesn't come on again until restart. I often wait 20-60 seconds before moving off, to make sure the oil gets around the engine
These are really good engines but need regular maintenance all the ones I look after I tell them 5k oil changes
MOST IMPORTANT ITEM FOR THIS ENGINE, DONT BELIEVE OIL CHANGE MILEAGE, CHANGE OIL MUCH MORE OFTEN
So from 70 plates onwards apparently they started using chains and corrected this issue i'm told. This is right ? I did want a fiesta till I started hearing all this ecoboom talk lol
From around 2020 they changed to chain, however the oil pump still has a belt 👍
So its going to be the same issue regradless ? I really wanted the 138bhp ST Line X till I started seeing all this talk about eco booms :(@@ALLTHINGSJIM
You don't need torque multiply tool ive done must be 20 now never had issues
Whoever thought a wet belt was a good idea should've been sacked. The fact it got all the way through their processes before it was put into production speaks volumes.
I would say rhis when you lave your car in service you need be there and watch them when they replace oil filter and oil if you leave you would never know if they change them esoecily oil filter .
I know a case my friend bought new skoda fabia and service where he bought car give him castrol 5w30 insted castrol 0w20 that factory recomend so he automaticle losse garante .
Be were espacily cars bought by leseng
What is the actual service interval on the belt time wise
10yrs
Just like there V6 Ecoboost. Poor oil pressure for the chain tensioner. Wears really fast and failure . Hard to understand where all the testing goes in prototypes , good video 🍺
Didnt know that, dont think ive ever seen a V6 Ecoboost engine- thanks for sharing and watching 👍👍👍
where does all the testing go in prototypes you ask? To make sure they just last the warranty and nothing more...
@@ALLTHINGSJIM they use them in the states
I had one of these for 6 months, o2 sensor went, replaced under warranty, 2nd o2 sensor went had to pay to get that fixed, then the boot started to pop open when I was driving, had to lock myself in the car to stop it, eventually traded it in for a golf GTD….. I’ll never get another ford.