I am so thankful to our Lord and God for this pastor because This video has given me the exact context and Bible proof I needed to explain my beliefs to my Mormon LDS husband in a way that is absolutely clear. May the Lord open his ears and understanding of the one and true identity of God. 🙏🏻
Your LDS husband is deceived. I say that in humility. The Jesus of Mormonism is not the Jesus of scripture. Keep praying for understanding. Blessings to you and him.
@@brotherderek You say that in all deception. The trinity was invented by Emperor Constantine at the Council of Nicene. The Bible does not teach a trinity. Colossians 2:Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
@@brotherderek Jesus Christ is Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament, the God who created this earth. There was never a time when Jehovah was not God, not before Mary was told by the angel Gabriel she would be the mother of the Son of God. When Jesus Christ was in his mother's womb, he was not only a child, Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child., he was a God. When Jesus lived his mortal life on earth as the Son of God, he was a God. When Jesus was being crucified, he was a God. When Jesus arose from the tomb and appeared to his disciples in the upper room, he was a God. Luke 24:39 Handle me and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. So now concerned Christians tell you that Emperor Constantine was correct, Jesus was a trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost all at the same time. If you believe this, you believe that Jesus prayed to himself, ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of a sort of cloud without body, parts, or passions, as a resurrected being with a body of flesh and bones. See Luke 24:39. So go ahead and explain this trinity. Jeff Durbin did not explain it. All he did was talk in circles. Jesus Christ explained it. He said he had a Father in Heaven. He said he was ascending to heaven to be with his Father. How did he do that if he was his own Father? So here is what members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe: 3 Nephi 11:32 And this is my doctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear record of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the Holy Ghose beareth record of the Father and me.\ Doctrine and Covenants 130:22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us. The doctrine of trinity came from Emperor Constantine, who insisted that his interpretation of God be accepted if Christianity was to become a state church of the Roman Empire. Ask preacher Durbin where the word trinity appears in the Bible. It does not. The correct word is Godhead. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 2 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been he is eternal} The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them. Psalm 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 48:12 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. Rev 1:8; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father} Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD. Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father} The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 3:20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Romans 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Matthew 19:26 {The Omnipotence of The Father} But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Revelation 1: 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father} For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. ============================================================ John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal} But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Revelation 1:11, 22:16 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… >> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible} For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak. Matthew 18:20; 28:19-20; John 3:13 {The Omnipresence of the Son} For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. Ephesians 4:10 He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things John 21:17; 2:24-25; 18:4 {The omniscience of the Son} He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep. Colossians 2:3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. John 2:24-25 But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people. He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person. John 16:30 Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God." Matthew 28:18; John 6: 36; 14:11; 15:24 {The Omnipotence of The Son} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 22:13, 16 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Philippians 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son} Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever. ============================================================ Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been he is eternal and Omnipresent } How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Psalm 139:7 Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 {The Omniscience of the Spirit} But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. “Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.” 1 Corinthians 12:8-11 {The Omnipotence of The Spirit } For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, czcams.com/video/ulPBOFCKOvQ/video.html And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: In His service,
@@canderssonswedican7486 If you are seeking to establish a Catholic Trinity by quoting the above, you did nothing of the kind. There is NO Bible text which tells us that the one God is made up of 3 individuals. 1 John 5:7 merely says that God the Father, Jesus and their Spirit agree together in the testimony they bear - that is what the following verse says in repetition. Instead John the Apostle taught us to acknowledge 2 divine beings: 1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
Name a Catholic apostle and the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible is he Catholic? The Father calls the Son, God is he Catholic? Jesus claims to be The Great I Am is he Catholic? The apostles call Jesus God are they Catholic? Obviously you have never studied the bible. The Catholic Church did not officially start to 280 AD the gospels had already been written by Jewish followers. Catholicism has nothing to do with the nature of God.
@@canderssonswedican7486 I have studied this subject for many YEARS friend! He calls Him God because He is of the same divine nature. Hebrews 1 tells us that clearly. Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even THY GOD, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. The God of Jesus, the One who anoints Him, is the Father. It's never the other way round. There is no verse ascribing to Jesus authority over the Father. In fact the Bible is very clear that Jesus is "subject" to the Father and always will be. 1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him THAT PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIM, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL. Here, it is very clear WHO God is - "even the Father." God, who is the Father - and is the highest authority - at first put all things under Christ. Christ then relinquishes the authority back "that God may be all in all." There is no confusion in the Bible and Paul's writings over this whatsoever.
@@mdmorell "There is no confusion in the Bible and Paul's writings over this whatsoever." Correct, the Holy Spirit knew what he was writing, after all he is God. He knows first-hand who Jesus and the Father is...God.
"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God...These then teach *three hypostases,* just as *Valentinus the [Gnostic] heresiarch* first invented in the book entitled by him On the Three Natures. For he was *the first to invent THREE hypostases and THREE persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes, Plato and Aristotle."* (Source: AHB Logan: Marcellus of Ancyra (Pseudo-Anthimus), On the Holy Church: Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS, Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95 )
hi i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
Being honest, it was hard for me as a Catholic to understand the Trinity. Who was Jesus speaking to while on the cross? He called out to the Father....so I reluctantly converted to Mormonism. I left after 10 years. My soul was not being spiritually fed. It felt as if it was withering . Thank you so very much for this explanation.
Heart soul and mind, that was in Christ, is the image of the invisible God. Think about a heart soul and mind that loves all in one person. Jesus was the image of invisible God a trinity.
@@poorchristopher15 not according to scripture “but now you seek to kill me, a MAN who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did.” John 8:40 ESV “because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a MAN whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”” Acts 17:31 ESV ““Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know- this Jesus, delivered up taccording to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it.” Acts 2:22-24 ESV “For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus,” 1 Timothy 2:5 ESV “And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.” John 17:3 ESV “Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”” John 20:17 ESV “The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of MY God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of MY God, and the name of the city of MY God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from MY God out of heaven, and my own new name.” Revelation 3:12 ESV “And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?”” Luke 2:49 ESV ““For God so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16 ESV “and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”” Matthew 3:17 ESV “that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.” Romans 15:6 ESV “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,” 2 Corinthians 1:3 ESV “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,” Ephesians 1:3 ESV “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,” 1 Peter 1:3 ESV
JEFF, I have been studying the word for 7 years now everyday. Some days I feasted for hours. I was starving for the bread of life! I’m still on fire, and especially for eschatology, and ecclesiology. The Lord drove me to the book of Genesis in the book of Revelation specifically which are my favorites. I understand the prophecy is 1/3 of the Bible and completely ignored by most of the churches. And I love how you did the sermon. However, I cannot wrap my brain around the fact that God is one but three separate persons. My commonsense brain tells me if there are three separate persons how can there be one and even though I know my scripture just like you do I keep falling into modulism.( sorry for spelling) I am in contact on a daily basis with Jehovah witnesses who deny Jesus Christ is God in the flesh and I know my scripture and how to refute them. But my brain just can’t wrap around the fact that if God is only “one “how can there be “three “separate person’s because that would make three?? Frustrating. I believe 100 percent but have a tough time explaining this to a Jehovah witness other than most of the scripture that they deny.
God is not a Trinity in unity of 3 separate persons. Read the book of John for starters. Easily you will come to understand who Jesus claims to be and who he claims God to be. Now when you read John and the rest of the NT take notice in how the Christ speaks of God and his relation to him, then take notice of what all the apostles claimed. This should clarify but if not, another way to understand is too simply search the New Testament in regards of all the times God the Father spoke with an audible voice for many to hear, there are 3 instances (Baptism, mount and garden) where God speaks and 2 of 3 specifically state who Jesus is in relation to God the Father. This should be all you need, for the authority of God in what he says is the final authority on all matters. Remember that God is not a man, that he would lie. By this point it should be evident without a shadow of a doubt who Christ is, Who God the Father is, their relationship and the spirit is how they are one. Once again John makes this very clear. Remember God is the God of truth and revelation, not mysteries and anyone who claims that the Trinity is a mystery does not really know their God. I suggest you use a exhaustive concordance or a website like god.net , understanding the word God from Greek translation will show that the word has multiple meanings depending on the the context. Now context is very important and you will see that the word God can mean divine or the divine one, high magistrate, etc but within context is important otherwise out of context (cherry picking, on one word or phrase) is not the proper way to study the word of God. If you wish to study with an open mind and submit yourself in prayer to God by way of and in the name of Jesus to reveal to you the truth of the Trinity then study videos regarding the Trinity by Nader Mansour, then go to God and let him by way of his holy spirit minister to you the truth, for man has no authority over you but John 17:3 May God the Father and the only begotten Son of God (Jn3:16) bless you!
You're correct. Try getting someone to explain that false doctrine using only Scriptual language. No Trinity, eternal Son, God the Son, God the Holy Spiriit, one God in 3 persons, etc. None of which are in the Bible. They can't do it. If you describe the Godhead using non-Scriptual terms, you are in violation of the Lords command in Revelation 22:18.
hi i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
Luke 22:41-44 And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw away, and he bent his knees and began to pray, 42 saying: "Father, if you want to, remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours take place." 43 Then an angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him. 44 But he was in such agony that he kept praying more earnestly; and his sweat became as drops of blood falling to the ground. John 14:28 You heard that I said to you, "I am going away and I am coming back to you." If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am. John 20:17 Jesus said to her: "Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God."" 1 Corinthians 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
Jeff Durbin, I would love to relocate to speak with you all the time & to be part of your Ministry, relocate to US, your State. You are 1 of the loosest & gifted, groomed, knowledgeable biblical, passionate, energetic speaker I have ever heard, even thought I do not understand for 4+ decades concepts (Learning Disability, a demonic stronghold) I'm glad you listened to people's prophecies that you will teach, preach...when you did not want to or believe you could. Christ, God, Holy Spirit must be flowing in your mind, heart, soul, your life, your mouth. Believe it or not, I don't believe I am saved because I am still sin, feel void, stupid, ashamed & I do not understand biblical nor have the patience, brain power for teachings in general, even biblical ones like this. I pray to be saved & delivered & be like Christ, like Jeff Durbin. I want to fulfill my Destiny. I am Greek & have many talents & interests to be used for His glory.
How does one educate a "Pastor" who thinks he knows it all? His truth is not of the Bible. He does not know WHO or WHAT "God" is. He makes a son, a created entity, to be God. John 14:6.....I am the Way, Truth and the Life......no one comes to the father except through me. (He did not say that "I am God", did he?) Then, he talks about the Father. If he had a Father, who gave birth to him? He is a son, means he was pro-created. Mother is a pre-requisite to be a son. Gen 1:3 Elohim said, "Let there be light". John 1:7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. Col 1:15 FIRSTBORN of all creation. God created all things thru Their son Col 1:16; John 1:3 Gen 1:27 God is a "bi-unity" of male and female (Father, Mother)...not a Trinity of 3 males; (talking about a homosexual god). In Greek pneuma (spirit) is a neutered noun, meaning it is neither male or female. In Gen 1:2 Ruach (spirit, feminine) is the name of the female half of God (Elohim)...Ruach Elohim. YHWH Elohim is the male's name for the male half of Elohim Gen 2:7. Read the Bible...don't change what is there to suit your theology. God, has a name, Elohim. Elohim is male and female. YHWH Elohim, Ruach Elohim. Their son is the FIRSTBORN of all creation. Their son was born to a Jewish family and had a Jewish name, Yahoshua Messiah...not a Greek/Anglo name Jesus Christ. This "Pastor" (only Yahoshua or his father is our PASTOR) has a false name and a false god and is leading this entire group and internet into a condemned state...laughing and joking...all the way. Believe in Yahoshua, the son of Elohim....and you will be saved. John 1:12 to all who called on his NAME will e saved. Acts 4:12 There is Salvation in no other NAME, Yahoshua. Bean
Faye Lewis 1 week ago The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God. www.desiringgod.org/articles/what-is-the-doctrine-of-the-trinity 1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5). 2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity. In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity. 3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father. 4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16). gotquestions.org
I remember the trinity and hearing the idea for the first time and I always thought it was man made. And yes the word is man made which is why I dont use the word. But there is a full understanding of This scripture "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." And It is Fully biblical That Jesus name is "The Word of God" its His most important name. The Word was Made Flesh johnch1:14 i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
@@ironeagle9850 Christians believe Jesus is the Word/Expression of God. And The Spirit of God lives through His Word. The Word of God is From Everlasting to Everlasting and so is The Spirit from everlasting .
I've been debating a Unitarian (not a Jehovah's witness) and he has brought up every verse that he believes shows that Jesus isn't divine. He is the first born of all creation, and speaks of the father as his God and never mentions the Trinity. He's is fluent in Greek, Arabic and even Latin. I am very new to the truth and my studies. I believe Jesus Christ is The Lord God incarnate as the Son. Please help me defend the truth if you can. P.S God bless and thank you my brothers and sisters. Love from Wales 🏴
You won’t be defending the truth. The trinity is a man made doctrine. If we read the scripture what is it plainly telling us? There are no scriptures that validate the trinity. czcams.com/video/w9B8ypkRV-g/video.html
Well the question is which Trinity. The church fathers trinity that they called all other doctrines heresy? Or the trinity as the church believes it today which the first church would have called heresy?
The Trinity is Fase believe If it is confused it is not of God. Period. God never says he is a 3 persons, NOWHERE. God says he is a Spirit John 4:24. God says I AM THAT I AM Exodus 3:14, not I AM 3 PERSONS THAT I ARE. NO. During Jesus on earth, God manifested in Jesus. Jesus is a puppet - meaning the Father speaks, Jesus move his mouth, whatever the Father does Jesus does also etc... At the cross Jesus cried out twice. Cry out 1 the Father left him. Cry out 2 his own spirit left him. All is left is Jesus' body on the cross and in the tomb. At the resurrection, God raise the dead body, took on the body, turn it into a glorify body, God took the shapes, forms and the characteristic of the body. God took back his name which is Jesus (Jesus is God's name or God himself before given to the created and temporary body for the fulfillment, the only begotten Son of God). So the Jesus you know today is actually God himself known by many titles, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, the Alpha & Omega, I AM, Almighty...etc. but God real name is Jesus Christ Acts 2:38 That is why Jesus commanded his disciples to baptised everybody in the (name - no s) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in Matthew28:19. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not names, they are titles. So, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit has a name and that name is Jesus Christ. What about Stephan saw Jesus stands at the right hand of God in Acts 7:55 and God says Let "US" elsewhere in the Bible then? These are not difficult to answer. Msg me if you need to understand more.
I believed and taught the trinity until at the age of 40 I got challenged to study it. 11yrs later I can tell you with 100% assurance from the bible the trinity is a false doctrine that is not a mystery it is nonsense. This man makes many truth statements that are not found in the bible. Jesus and his disciples did not teach or believe the trinity. Do the study for yourself. Jesus is Gods only begotten son. He is our messiah our saviour. The trinity wreaks the gospel message. Another Jesus another God.
Nice opinion/anectdote and spiral towards Presumptive heretical blasphemy those that reject who God is are Not Christian and are better off just starting there own religion and call it God in a boxism something other than Christian it is an essential that has to be acquiesced to whether you "understand" it or not. Obvious you were never of Us, Hope you will be elected before the judgement otherwise your a side gater and destined for Hell.
Amen! I also grew up and was taught the doctrine of the trinity, It never made sense. There’s no special mystery we have to know to understand the Bible. czcams.com/video/w9B8ypkRV-g/video.html
@@IamGreatsword it would behoove you to read scripture without bias and preconceived notions. Do a little history research and you’ll find what was said above is quite true.
So, who coined the word trinitas or trinity and who formulated the doctrine of the trinity? Is Jesus the mystery and revelation and glory of God the Father or is it the trinity?
Critical Thinking arguments: If The LORD God created everything, and all things were made by Jesus according to John then Jesus is the LORD God. Genesis 2:4 (KJV) These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, John 1:3 (KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Isaiah 9:6 There are several issues in this verse , most of them related to the Hebrew grammar which are debated between Christians and also between Jews and sometimes between Jews and Christians . the following list shows some of the issues which are discussed . (1) The tense of the Hebrew verbs sometimes an issue among Christians . (2) The lack of a definite article before the name sometime an issue among Christians (3) How the entire name should be understood and translated usually not an issue among Christians (4) The translation of the Hebrew word Gibbor sometimes an issue but only among Christians (5) The translation of the Hebrew word EL an issue mainly among Christians . (6) How the Jewish Septuagint (LXX) translation bears upon the intended meaning of this verse . (7) How the ancient Jews understood this verse (i.e. Targums ) (8) Whether this verse is only about Hezekiah or about Jesus or whether it should apply to Hezekiah as well as Jesus (9) this verse is not mentioned anywhere in the new testament although Matthew quotes the verse immediately preceding Isaiah 9:6 and he also quoted Isaiah 7:14 Trinitarians presume the name by which the Messiah well be called, this name is describing who the Messiah is and therefore the Messiah is a wonderful counsel the mighty God an Eternal Father the Translate the Hebrews words EL GiBBoR this Term is used two Chapters later in Isaiah . A remnant well return the remnant of Jacob to the Mighty God 10:21 . Jerusalem in not God , by the same token on cannot claim the Messiah is God either at Jeremiah 26:6 because it is virtually the very same language being used .
Christ taught the Disciples how to pray and specifically taught when you pray pray to the Father in my name I notice you prayed to both Father and Jesus, why is that when Christ clearly tells us how to pray?
@@fayelewis5476 Amen! Isaiah 42:8 48:11-12 {God will never share his glory} I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, and I will not give my glory unto another. I am he; I am the first, I also am the Last. Revelation 1: 8 (He is the first and the last the beginning and the end the Alpha and Omega) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty. Philippians 2:5-7 {of what did he empty himself} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation (emptied), and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: {The Greek reads as follows} Who in form of God subsisting not rapinesteemed it to be equal with god; John 14:28 {Jesus in human form occupies a lower position then the Father} "You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'" Hebrews 2:9 {Jesus Humbled himself while walking among us} But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone Galatians 4:4 {Jesus set aside his divine nature to be born as a human} But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, John 5:30 “I can do nothing on my own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.” Colossians 2:9 {Yet he was still GOD} For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, John 17:5 {God shares his glory} {of his right to exercise his deity} And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Matthew 28:18 {which he takes up after the resurrection} And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth. Revelation 1: 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Jesus assumes his correct position as GOD} Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: … And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;… And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… >> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation 1:17-18 {the Holy Spirit thru John states Jesus is the First and the Last?} And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last: I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death John 1:1, 2,3,14 {The Holy Spirit states is Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word . Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. …..When did the First and the Last (GOD), the Beginning and the End (GOD), the Alpha and Omega (GOD) taste death? czcams.com/video/ulPBOFCKOvQ/video.html Matthew 26:53 (Jesus was obedient to what was prophesied) Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?”… Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father gives Jesus his authority) In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” czcams.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/video.html And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: In His Service,
@@canderssonswedican7486 Psalm 138:2 2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME. The Word of God is The Glory from The Father unto this world. And this word Is Jesus amen. my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
The Trinity is a Catholic construct, not found in the Bible. There is NO text anywhere that says God is made up of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Aint there. So those who actually care about a biblical foundation for their Faith should be NON-trinitarian.
We are a SOUL, that lives in this FLESH, which possesses a SPIRIT. There's the trinity. GOD THE FATHER ( soul), God the so, body), God the Holy spirit. Its everywhere in Gods words. You cannot see it from your lost perspective. Bye to your lies and false doctrine.
@@keithshortsellkiller2598 Sadly...That pleasing mental construct has nothing to do with the actual nature of God. If the definition of God as a Trinity is"everywhere" in the Word of God (which is what counts) - then don't waste all our time simply saying so (how easy and lazy that appears!) - show us!
@@mdmorell how many times does God have to say anything for it to be true? Only once. We are told we are made in Gods image. We are told Adam was made a living soul. Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 12:18 Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles. Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. You do not need any more proof. You need a change of heart from the lies you have believed. If there was no God head, God would not have told us he is 3 persons in one God just like we are 3 persons in one being. The very fact you do not even understand the beginning of knowledge tells me you do not know Jesus Christ. Wake up guy.
@Bo Stephens Jesus Christ is God Almighty because he is God in the flesh to learn the only thing that God on the throne could not know. Obedience. Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
@@mdmorell sadly what you call a mental construct is factual basics taught throughout the entire words of God as I said. Is not the very name of God a Tetragram? tet·ra·gram /ˈtetrəˌɡram/ Learn to pronounce noun a word consisting of four letters or characters. The world wants to lie and change it from YHVH to yhwh. Because YHVH =YESHUA HANASARI VEHEMALEK HIAHUDIM. JESUS OF NAZARETH KING OF THE JEWS. Keep reading your false bible that was made from satan instead of Gods true words found in the KJV 1611. I'm sure you'll believe in many false doctrines doing so. You're worse than an atheist. Atleast they know the true words of God . They dont believe them. You on the other hand read from corrupted bibles trying to make God a liar. It's you who is the liar.
Understanding the Biblical view of the Godhead is simple. God is one/one God - Deuteronomy 6:4, Mark 12:29, Mark 12:32, Malachi 2:10, Romans 3:30, 1 Corinthians 8:4, 8:6, Galatians 3:20, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Timothy 2:5, James 2:19. There is no God beside Him - Deuteronomy 4:35, 2 Samuel 7:22, 1 Chronicles 17:20, Isaiah 43:10-11, 44:6, 44:8, 45:5-6, 45:21-22, Hosea 13:4. The Father is a Spirit - Genesis 1:2, Matthew 10:20, 12:28, *John 4:24*, Romans 8:9, 8:14, 1 Corinthians 2:10, 3:16, 12:13, 2 Corinthians 3:17, *Ephesians 4:4* The Father is an invisible Spirit - John 1:18, Colossians 1:15, 1 John 4:12, 4:20, 1 Timothy 1:17, 6:16. God is an omnipresent Spirit (present everywhere) - Isaiah 66:1, Psalm 139:7-10, Jeremiah 23:24. The Father is an everlasting Spirit and cannot die - Psalm 90:1-4, 1 Timothy 1:17, 6:16. So when we think of the Father we should immediately think Spirit. And if there is only one Spirit just as Ephesians 4:4 states, then the Spirit of the Father and the Holy Spirit have to be the same Spirit consisting of more than one title. Since there is only one Spirit of God. Jesus was born of a woman and was, therefore, flesh - Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:18, 1:20, *John 3:6*. The term "Son of God" or "Son of Man" refers to humanity or flesh. The Father (Spirit) is eternal, and therefore cannot die, and the Son (flesh) was able to and did die. This is where everything comes together in a beautiful way.. God (Spirit) was in Christ (flesh) - To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV One more time.. God (Deity/Spirit) was in Christ (flesh/humanity) reconciling the world unto HIMSELF.. not unto themselves. *Ephesians 4:4* states that there is one body and one Spirit. Just as you have one body and one spirit, God did the same thing. He made Himself a body. I wanna show you John 3:16 in this new light - "For God (deity) so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son (humanity) that whosoever believeth in HIM should not perish but have everlasting life." - John 3:16 Whosoever believes in HIM not THEM. Now look at 1st John 3:16 - "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren." Isaiah 9:6, 12:2, 25:9, 43:11, 45:21-22, 54:5, John 8:24-27, 10:30, 12:45, 14:6-9. Matthew 28:18-19, *Colossians 2:9*, Acts 2:38, 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16 For those of you that have not been baptized in the NAME (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost I urge you to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins as soon as possible. Obey Acts 2:38. That's the Biblical Godhead. I took extra time to explain it but it is as simple as 5 Scriptures. 1. Deuteronomy 6:4 - One God. 2. John 4:24 - God is a Spirit. 3. Ephesians 4:4 - One body and one Spirit. 4. 2 Corinthians 5:19 - God in Christ. 5. 1 Timothy 3:16 - God was manifest in flesh.
"The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us." (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22)
Check Alma 18:26-28. Your scriptures contradict each other. As the Book of Mormon supposedly contains the fulness of the Gospel, find me a place where it says that God the Father has flesh and bones. Joseph Smith's views of God changed and now you are following a false God, a false prophet and a false Christ that cannot save you brother. Turn to the real one, the true and living Jesus of the Bible
Bogdan Suciu *"Your scriptures contradict each other."* Actually, they don't. Besides the fact that you consider the Book of Mormon to be a fairy tale, Joseph Smiths' view of God never changed. You are assuming that Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon, but he did not. He translated it from ancient records. Alma 18:26-28 reflects what Ammon thought God was like. Understandable, since all of the Book of Mormon peoples thought that God was a spirit. Additionally, the Bible (KJV) is very much a part of official Mormon doctrine. The Christ of the Bible is the same Christ that Mormons believe in.
LOL.......He says, "If you have ever struggled with what the Bible teaches about the Trinity or how to explain the Trinity from Scripture..." Then friend you are in GOOD COMPANY - because the Trinity itself is what they call the "central mystery" of the Catholic church - which is itself biblical "Babylon" or CONFUSION and is simply incomprehensible - because it is utterly UNBIBLICAL! The Bible NOWHERE defines 1 God as 3 persons! That definition just does NOT exist!! So....give up trying to teach or "explain the Trinity from Scripture" friend! Its pointless....
Jeff Durbin, I watch alot of your video's. I've seen the one's where you do street witnessing to Mormons, I've seen the ones at the abortion clinics, I've seen you do presuppositional apologetics and I listen to guys like James White, Sye, Jason Lisle and have heard Greg Bahnsen. I know that you know both James and Sye. I've enjoyed listening to all of you. I will say though that it saddens me that you occasionally cuss in public while you are engaging people. I've heard you on three separate occasions use bad language and it would be so much appreciated if you we're even yet more self controlled in using that kind of language on social media. I'd love to continue listening to you on the subjects that I've mentioned and I have learned some good info from you, but ot would be more honorable if you are willing to tame your tongue in public..thank you.
I would agree 100% however, as we are all imperfect and need salvation we will and do slip up from time to time. I would imagine it's NOT the norm. Only Jesus Christ was capable of perfect love. Pray for him :)
@@rogerg0834 but for those who are already saved all they need to do is be obedient to Christ..slipping up is one thing but he clearly repeats the words that these people are saying, so that is not a slip up, that is intentionally reaping what they say.
@@rogerg0834 But, he is a professed minister of God. And as such a double responsibility rests upon him to guard the things he says. How was it that Peter denied Jesus? Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. Jas 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
I am becoming so discouraged in my faith. Trinity, oneness, Jesus being only the son of God, the scriptures bk up all of these and more interpretations and then you have each belief stating there are no contradictions! HELP!
Who raised Jesus from the Dead? Galatians 1:1 {Father raised Jesus from dead} Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead; John 2:19-21 {Jesus raised himself from dead} Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. Matthew 26:61 and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’” Romans 8:11 {Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead} But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Acts 3:26 {God raised Son from the dead} Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. So who raised Jesus from the dead?
I remember the trinity and hearing the idea for the first time and I always thought it was man made. And yes the word is man made which is why I dont use the word. But there is a full understanding of This scripture "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." And It is Fully biblical That Jesus name is "The Word of God" its His most important name. The Word was Made Flesh johnch1:14 i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
If you could talk with one would you and why ? To better understand the mind set in which one has ? To the point why would like or need to know what it is to be a trinity being ?
I have a question, I believe all of the word of God I believe in this sermon , I’m just wondering though. When we get to heaven , will we see the father and the son and the Holy Spirit all at the same time but be able to distinct one another ??
Short answer: we don’t know. Hebrews says that Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father. Scripture also says that no one can look upon the Father and live. John Calvin said something very wise: “When Scripture makes the end of speaking, we must make an end of speaking.” There is enough that HAS been revealed to us to last a lifetime. We’ll find out all the mysteries in the end.
3 persons, co-existent, co-equal, co-eternal....where does the bible say that?Help me understand the trinity.....well, you can't really understand the trinity.
People used to think that god was a mystery. They were told to be satisfied with not understanding. They were called the dark ages. Some people are still okay with that. Better to keep asking questions than settle on something that looks made up.
Michale Heiser has videos where he shows the belief in the triune Godhead in the Old Testament. There’s no way so many devout Jews would worship Jesus as God if the concept wasn’t already in their beliefs
Heb 1:8 Theos O God G2316 Trinitarians claim God the Father is calling Jesus God Heb 1:8 is a quotation of Psalm 45:6 . the above translation of Heb 1:8 is another example of extreme translation bias. Here they outrageously try to claim that God is addressing Jesus as "God" . Their translation is not the most natural reading of the original Greek text and it crudely violates the context in order to promote Trinitarian doctrine. Trinitarian Greek scholars themselves openly admit the Greek grammar does allow for a different translation . therefore the proper translation of this passage is not a Greek grammar question but a question of theological interpretation in order to determine which one is correct for example the R.S.V a Trinitarian version translates the original passage quoted here as ,Your divine throne endures for ever and ever. Psalm 45:6 this demonstrates Trinitarian Greek scholars admitted a different translation is just as accurate on grammatical grounds alone. However most Trinitarian academics are so eager to look for reasons why they can justify the preferred Trinitarian translation that they fail to see the obvious meaning intended in this passage as well as the overall context of Hebrews chapter one. The main intention of this passage is to indicate and describe the authority of Jesus that resulted due to his resurrection glory. The Greek text literally reads the throne of you the god to the age of the age". The writer of Hebrews is simply saying that Jesus is exalted to the throne of God in heaven and as such he is not trying to demonstrate that Jesus is God but that Jesus has ascended to the throne of God and is therefore above the angels with all authority. God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ Acts 2:36) All authority in Heaven and earth has been given to me Matt 28:18.) 1 Peter 3;21-22 see Heb 4:14. He is Lord see 1 Chronicles 29:20,23 1Kings Chapter one)This is common in the O.T the same thing is occurring here in Hebrews chapter one see Acts 2:34-36.
Our problem is we have no concept of who or what God is. By definition God means a being that is all present, all powerful, all knowing, So because our limited human mind can’t understand that God can appear as whatever he wants to or be four or five or three entities just means our level of understanding is weak. This God who created man from the dust of the earth without using a women’s womb, needs us to explain how he begat Jesus in a woman's womb with no human sperm. Perhaps we should ask this being to expand our understanding, did we not read that God spoke and the world came into existence? Is the God of the Israelite's Omnipotence - YES Is the God of the Israelite's Omnipresence - YES Is the God of the Israelite's Omniscience - YES What this means If GOD wants to be anything or anyone he can period! So can GOD appear as he wants? - YES If he wants to appear as three figures and decides to sacrifice himself as one of those figures for his creation guess what, he can! If he wants to appear as a human he can. If we as a human can’t comprehend it well is that GODS fault? Perhaps we should ask him to give us a higher understanding. Would we sacrifice ourselves for our children? God is pure love we humans aren't. So who would have a greater propensity to sacrifice themselves for another you or GOD? And who are we to question why God chooses to do what he does? if he chooses to come down and dwell with his creation and determines that only he, is holy enough to pay for our sins well then so be it. WHAT arrogance some people have, you know what God can and cannot do, or be or not be; So God who is pure love cannot sacrifice himself? Would you die for your child So God is not very smart he needs us humans to tell him who he is to be. Do you hear that God we / us humans will define who or what you are and how you can manifest yourself. Now I am speaking of the GOD of the bible not the book of Mormon or the Koran, or any other cult. So if the bible states that Jesus is God well then, he is to us who try to follow that set of oracles which by the way were given only to the Jews. I don't know what you follow or believe so don't tell me what "your" God can or cannot do or be I don't care, and definitely don't tell me what MY GOD can or cannot be because I have his instruction manual. I assume I am to follow what the Holy Spirit has written over what some carbon unit thinks. The Father states there is only one God he knows of no other, he is God alone, then he calls The Son, God and attributes the same attributes to him as he has, the apostles call the Son God, the Son himself calls himself God, and who penned all this?, why the Holy Spirit did and Jesus tells us the spirit of truth will make it known to you. If you cannot understand this either you are not very smart or you have been deceived. The first step in realizing you have been deceived is to acknowledge you have been deceived. We as a limited pile of cells trapped in a decaying carbon body cannot assert anything beyond what you can see, feel or touch. What arrogance by such limited carbon life forms, do you think a snail can process it surrounding as a bird can? Or the bird process it’s surrounding as a dog? How about a monkey can he out think the latter? Us human’s. Each one of these creatures cannot comprehend what the larger and higher capacity brain of a more developed creature can. We are not biologically capable of understanding a higher power. Does an ant know I exist? Is it aware of my presence? What happens when I start to push it with my finger it runs away why? Because it knows there is something there. I have to reveal myself to it for it to know I am here. Likewise a higher intelligence would have to reveal itself to us. It is Gods prerogative to be whoever he wants to be or how he represents himself he does not need you or me to define him or his limits nor to tell him how he is to reveal himself to us. czcams.com/video/ulPBOFCKOvQ/video.html In His service, .
Not sure why people don't get the Trinity. There are so many scriptures covering this fact. To anybody who doesn't believe in the Trinity, then can you explain the clear reading of John 1:1 for starters? ".....and the Word was God." Big W and a big G. Why make this difficult?
Brother Derek cause its stupid and dumb. It makes no sense at all. Tos pagan from, Egypt and Babylon. You nor Jeff, can explain it. Because three is none.
People don't get it because it is the mystery of the Antichrist - which the Antichrist is only too fond of calling its "Central Doctrine." It is a pagan doctrine fostered and publicized by the Roman Catholic church from the very beginning - and we were forewarned of its insinuation into the Christian faith by the likes of Jude in his letter verse 4. "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
@@mdmorell you watch to many CZcams documentaries so easy to kurpt little brains.the pagans used it cause there is no other way to explain all 3 with out it being 1.
MR WEATHERS your sarcastic and disrespectful language would be better used in a schoolyard. Why do you have to use it here? Can you possibly profess to be a Christian? Aren't you just exhibiting your own "little brain" by doing so? The basic fact which you nor anyone else can gainsay is this: The Roman Catholic institution installed the doctrine of the Trinity into "the church" shortly before, during and after the Council of Nicea 325 AD. Before this time the Apostolic church had no such institution, as evidenced by the lack of the word for Trinity and subsequent definition in the New Testament. Please note that the New Testament words used in translating "Godhead" NOWHERE refer to a defined Trinity. There is also NOWHERE in the Bible that even the concept of 3 individuals composing 1 God exists. Are you able to study this for yourself? If you CAN specifically prove this PLEASE show it to me asap because I have been actively looking for over 3 years now. So -- I will say with confidence that you cannot point to any contextual verses that so define God.
John 14:8-10 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath seen me hath SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and THE FATHER IN ME? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, he doeth the works. ISAIAH 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.ISAIAH 42:13 The LORD shall go forth AS A MIGHTY MAN, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies. JOHN 10:30 I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. (The Bible does NOT SAY that there are THREE DISTINCT PERSONS WHO ARE GOD) 1 TIMOTHY 3:16 GOD BECAME FLESH....HEBREWS 1:3, COLOSSIANS 1:15 JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER PERSON. HE IS THE IMAGE OF GOD IN THE FLESH. GOD IS A SPIRIT WHO DWELLS IN THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WHICH IS HIS VESSEL WHICH ALLOWED THIS SAME GOD TO DWELL WITH US.
*"Help me understand the Trinity: Jeff Durbin on the Trinity"* How can you understand something that doesn't even exist? There is no such thing as a "trinity". There is such a thing as the "Godhead" however. And that concept _is_ biblical.
Actually, there is no such thing as the godhead either. If you research this subject, you will find that a little over 700 years ago, Wycliffe took the biblical word, "godhood" and changed it to "godhede", hence "godhead". God is ONE. He is The Father, as scripture tells us, and he has a SON, whom he sent to be our Messiah. Blessings
Sir how can you teach God is a Trinity(Three) quoting verses in Isaiah saying God but “I” and “ME” is also in the context of identifying Who God is? And the thing is you are saying it and don’t realize the verses your reading identify God as one singular and not one as a unity
Galatians 1:1 {Father raised Jesus from dead} Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead; John 2:19-21 {Jesus raised himself from dead} Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.” They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. Matthew 26:61 and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’” Romans 8:11 {Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead} But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Acts 3:26 {God raised Son from the dead} Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
@@canderssonswedican7486 I just want to thank you so much for those verses pointing out how The Father, Jesus himself, and the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead! Amazing point! I have never heard or realized that!! Thank you 🙏🏻
"...O people of the Book, let us come to a common understanding between us and between you; that 1) we serve none except God, and 2) that we do not set up anything with Him, and 3) that none of us takes each other as patrons besides God...." (Qur'an 3:64)
wrong my friend. you follow the wrong genetic line of the house of isreal. come back into the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob..who sent the messiah..the only messiah who ever has or will come...Jesus Christ. who paid for Your sins on the cross so you can be made righteous to the Heavenly Father of the Holy Trinity and not go to Hell because your sins have not been forgiven....
Trinity the big lie . Do you no they us cute sings to make this point. I have years in this the bible is the word. Get the Torah it is the same as the time when Jesus was in the world ACTS 2:36 also The K.J.V is not the same as the Torah as the N.I.V is not the K.J.V in a short time.
Jeff Durbin starts out rather odd, praying to the Father. You see, according to the trinity teaching, God consists of three co-equal, co-eternal persons, namely, the Father, Son, and holy spirit. So, if it takes three persons to make up one God, why is Jeff Durbin only praying to one of the three persons that make up God? Why not pray to all three persons instead of just one? Doesn't this mean that Jeff Durbin is praying to a "piece" of God, not the entire God? Just asking. Now, let's see by the scriptures that Jeff Durbin uses if God really is "a unity of three [persons]," which is what the word "trinity" means. The first set of verses that Jeff Durbin uses is John @-24, which says: "Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again." Does these verses say or imply that God is tri-personal? Answer: NO, they don't. However, verse 23 clearly shows that God is not a trinity. How's that? Well, according to the trinity doctrine, three persons are worshiped as the same "one God. As it says: "We worship one God in trinity." But, who did Jesus tell his followers to worship? As John @ says: "...the true worshipers will worship the Father." Even Jesus worshiped the Father along with his fellow Jewish countrymen. As he said to the Samaritan woman: "You worship what you do not know; WE worship what WE do know, for salvation is from the Jews." (John @) So, Jeff Durbin is so ignorant that he inadvertently read a series of scriptures that actually _disproved_ the trinity doctrine that says the Father, Son, and holy spirit are worshiped as "one God."
Absolutely you are correct!,that is why trinity is nonsesnse and no logic doctrine..they say trinity is 3 persons in 1 God.if they are 3 persons i just notice why every time they pray they dont mention about the HS?.eveytime Jesus and his apostle talks about the 1 true God HS is always missing,not even mention.that is very unfair for the HS if its true that He is the 3rd person God in the trnity..i think it is more correct to say "There is 3 person in one trinity not 1 God,just like in 1 family with 3 members its like"there are 3 persons in 1 family not 3 persons in 1 human.their definition of the word God is like a gruop or committee like 1 family or 1 baranggay or 1 Goverment.trinitarians says God is a being, (divne being)a nature just like in humans we are human being.1 what in 3 who?eg.in 1 family there is father,mother and son.what is my faher?he is a human being.who is my father.my father is Jose.what is my mother? My mother is also humanbeing,who is my mother?my mother is Maria,and also the son is humanbeing who is the son?the son is Jesus.the question now is how many humanbeings are there in 1 family?.they are 3 humanbeing with the same being.just like in trinity.they are 3 persons Gods with same being God.
@@juanitobarcelona7050 "They say trinity is 3 persons in 1 God." Actually, they say there are three _Gods_ in one God. As the Catholic Athanasian Cred says: 1. "The Father is God." [God #1] 2. "The Son is God." [God #2] 3. "The holy spirit is God." [God #3] 4. "[The Father, Son, and holy spirit] are one God." So, according to trinitarian doctrine, there are three Gods [not three persons] in one God. However, this isn't trinitarianism; it's tritheism, which is the belief that there are three Gods in one God.
@@cbooth151 you are correct bro.you talk with sense.trinity is nonsense and funny.not only that, if God is trinity(3 persons) why everytime God speaks He always use singular pronoun like I,ME ,MYSELF ,ALONE,if God is 3 equally divine persons Gods,They shoul use plural pronoun like WE or US because God knows correct grammar.In Genesis God saya "let us created man"its clear there there is someone with him thats why he use the word US,but the question is how many person is speaking not how many person is with him.still 1 person is speaking there
@@juanitobarcelona7050 "They should use plural pronoun like WE or US because God knows correct grammar.In Genesis God saya "let us created man"its clear there there is someone with him thats why he use the word US,but the question is how many person is speaking not how many person is with him." You are so right. In English, there are some words that carry a specific number. For instance... 1. a triangle has THREE angles.. 2. a tricycle has THREE wheels. 3. A tripod has THREE feet. 4. A trident has THREE prongs. 5. A triceratops is a dinosaur that has THREE horns. Now, does the pronoun "us" carry a specific number? No, it doesn't. So, depending on context, "us" could mean "us two, "us twenty-two," or "us two hundred and twenty-two." At Gen. 1:26, where does the context of the verse say or suggest "us" has to be "us THREE"? Answer: it doesn't. And another, as you said, the word "us" includes the one speaking and at least one other person. God by himself is not an "us." On the other hand, God _and_ at least one other person _can_ be an "us" and an "our" at Gen. 1:26. Trinitarians are desperate to prove the Bible supports the trinity. But, since they know they can't prove it, they switch to "Plan B" by saying Jesus is God all by himself. And some of the scriptures they us include John 1:1; John 8:58; and John 20:28. So, if you were to ask a trinitarian who God is on two different occasions, he is likely to give you two different answers.
YES & HE CLEARLY SAID THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD JOHN 17;3 PLUS JOHN 4:23-26 22 Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall Worship the FATHER in spirit and truth: [a]for such doth the Father seek to be his worshippers. 24 [b]God is a SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth. 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. (NOTICE JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS PART OF GOD OR TO WORSHIP HIM EVER EVEN AFTER HE RESURRECTED THE APOSTLES Knowledge Jesus to be the Servant & son of God 1 Peter 1:3 Praise be to the GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ!
Hebrews 1:6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: Let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son He says: Your throne O God is forever and ever.
And The Word of God before He was made Flesh, is the Son of God. The Living Word of God IS the Son and The Son Lives By the Father and The Father by the Son, through The Holy spirit which is graciously given to Those who hear the word and understand it. So I made this explanation through the scriptures old testament and the words of Jesus. my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
@@bretbic6418 When explaining a scripture as philipians 2:6, although it is true, and perfect, and beautiful, The nerw testament letters of the apostles do not hit the thershold of authority to other false religions. So I made this explanation through the scriptures old testament and the words of Jesus. my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
Remember when Jesus tells Philip in the book of John "whoever has seen me, has seen the father." Its because there is 1 God.. 3 different "dimensions" if you will :)
I understand the Trinity, and I'm not saying that I don't believe the Trinity, but what I don't understand is, if God is all things, he is not limited to be three things. When Abraham was going to kill his son the Angel of the Lord appeared and offered a sacrifice. The Angel of the Lord. If one is of something, it is part of that thing. So the Angel was God or a form of God. Here we see a four entity of God, which then we would not have a Trinity, but instead quadrality, which is 4 things in 1. Water is liquid, which can be a solid block of ice and can also be visible steam. Moisture (water) is in the air, which is not visible. So we are surrounded and living within water. This example is something we can understand to help others understand the Trinity. God, ice, turned into Jesus, water, which died and rose to Heaven like steam and surrounds us as the Holy Spirit, which is not visible. Yet without the Holy Spirit, moisture, we are but dry dust without life.
Jesus is NOT God and Christians go on saying that he is, then something very profound is lost in theology. To say that God died on the cross is to miss the suffering love the Father had for his tortured Son agonizing on the cross. It would have been easier for God to offer up himself than to offer up his only Son, Jesus. I believe the Abraham and Isaac story is in the Bible for a reason. God wanted to test Abraham to see if his faith was strong enough to obey him even if it meant giving up his son, Isaac, as a sacrifice on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem. The story reveals the anguish of a dedicated father having to choose between his son or God. It was a hard choice. Abraham was not asked to sacrifice himself! His choice would be harder than self-sacrifice! God never intended to let Abraham go through with it. It was a test of love as well as of faith. At the last moment God provided a ram for sacrifice in place of Abraham’s son. Abraham was to call that place on Mount Moriah “THE LORD WILL PROVIDE.” So Abraham called the name of the place “The Lord will provide” as it is said to this day, “On the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided” (Gen 22:14) What God did not require of Abraham, He would fulfill in the same place at a later time in history, to show his love for the world by giving up his beloved Son, Jesus, to die on the cross for the salvation of a sinful world: “In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only son into the world” (1 Jn 4:9). Rather than God giving up himself to death, the heavenly Father gave up his Son to die on the cross. God required more of himself than He required of Abraham.
Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father gives Jesus his authority) In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” And you will worship him by the Fathers decree.
I have a question to mr Durbin..If God(father Yahweh/Yehovah) is 3 persons..whos God in the trinty speak iin Isa.44:24? It is very clear there that the God who speaks there is only 1 person,because hen said "I,ALONE"..Iif they are 3 speaking at the same time they should use "WE or US..can you pls explain it clearly without assuming?
@@ChiSoter_2024 if the triune Gods Speaks,Father, Son ,and Holy spririt, then they should say "We, or US not I Am and alone,because God knows correct grammar.. trjnitv is a invented pagan doctrine.
@@juanitobarcelona7050 He did say "us" and "our".. So whats the matter if God will use singular pronouns? Of course He would use that because theres no other Gods but Him alone the God of Israel...
47:58 there is nowhere in the Bible that ever says that Jesus is almighty. Jesus cannot be almighty, Jesus worships someone else,his father. Jesus is called a mighty god in Isaiah 9:6. But only Jehovah is called almighty.
Amen Amen. A believer can rejoice at this comment, yet a nonbeliever cannot and would find it unnatractive to the Church. i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
Phillippians 2:6-11: who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Isaiah 9:6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. So many non-Trinitarians commenting here. Do not assume our doctrine is Catholic. Study the church fathers. Read the Scripture. The Triune God has been a necessary point of Christian doctrine from the very beginning.
+The Essene Way I agree, we should look at your scriptures to see if these prophecies were fulfilled through Yeshua, but we should look at what people believed about these prophecies at or around the time of Jesus. In this case it is unequivocally Messianic. Targum Isaiah says, "The prophet saith to the house of David, A child has been born to us, a son has been given to us; and He has taken the law upon Himself to keep it, and His name had been called from of old, Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, He Who Lives Forever, The Anointed One (or Messiah), in whose days peace shall increase upon us.” So clearly they were looking forward to it. In fact, the Babylonian Talmud reiterates this, which came after Yeshua. Finally, Hezekiah does not mean "Mighty God," and I would think it would be blasphemy to be referred to as such. Rather, it means "Yah has strengthened." Note the verb chezek, or "strengthen." The word in Isaiah 6:9 is El Gibbor, which literally does mean Mighty God. Peace.
***** Context context context. We can't cherry pick apparently contradictory passages without understanding what the intent of what Paul was saying was, or the overarching context of their message. Christ brought peace with God, and division among men. (Romans 5:1, Matthew 10:34-39) And yes, Christ, rather than abolishing the law, fulfilled it. Paul's "abolition," was only of the Law of commandments contained in ordinances (sacrifices). And these were not abolished in the arbitrary sense to which Jesus was referring, but rather were fulfilled by Christ's atoning death on the cross. Rather than getting rid of them, he simply made the ordinances unnecessary by carrying out a perfect, eternal sacrificial ordinance himself. So no, Christ did not abolish the law, but rather fulfilled it. (Matthew 5:17-20, Ephesians 2:14-15) I get a sense of resentment in you. Perhaps you feel us Gentiles have taken your God and thrown you Jews to the curb. And some so-called "Christians" have, shame on them. That is not Christianity. Rather, us Gentiles are forever indebted to you Jews, for your God, the true God, became one of your very own people and sacrificed Himself, becoming an eternal High Priest, so that both Jews and Gentiles alike could have peace with Him. Remember, the first Christians were Jews :) Peace, friend.
+The Essene Way I don't see how. Allow me to create a scenario. Let's say I told you that God came down to earth in the form of a man and sat down to eat with one of his followers. I want to know, is that blasphemous?
I really just can't address everything you've just said, time won't allow, so you'll have to just accept my apology on that. Though I would encourage you to look closely at context, and many of these things you will find are answered well. A couple things of extreme importance that I feel I should address however. First, when Christ said you have to hate your mother and father to follow him, well, I think your second citation refuted your first one. "Loved more," is an aspect of what he intended to say, and I think you will find such a stickler for the commandments would never and didn't ever encourage a person to dishonor their parents. However, I agree there is more to it. If you were called by the Lord to leave your pagan household, abandon your parents, and, for lack of better words, hate them and all that they stand for in order to follow the one true God, I think, or at least hope, you would. Second, I see no reason why Jesus could recite the Shema and not be God. "The Lord our God is one," as in, echad. It should me noted that echad is used in describing husband and wife as one flesh. Yet you would not say that they are literally one flesh, but rather come together as one unit. A strict rendering of echad for the sole purpose of not allowing a Trinity is simply inconsistent, as we do not believe their are three Gods, but three persons unified as one God. Also, with regard to saying Jesus didn't know something, I was surprised you didn't go to the passage where Christ said he didn't know the day of the Lord. Regardless, Christ in the flesh can in fact be unaware of something despite his place in the Godhead being equally omniscient. It's not something I totally understand, but I won't put God in a box and say he can't do that. Finally, and the most important thing, your idea that God cannot be a man is unfounded because the Torah itself disproves your statement. One example is in Genesis 18. God appears as three men before Abraham. Abraham bows down and worships the men, and they sit down and eat food together. I just want to state though, and I'm sure you know this about us Christians, that when we say God became a man, we don't mean that he lost any of his Godhood. Rather, he took on a human tabernacle with a human body and a human soul, while still retaining, in harmony with this humanness, all the fullness of the Godhead. So he has two natures, that of God and that of man. He was man enough to hunger, be tempted, and die, yet he was God enough to perform miracles, never sin, and raise from the dead. Think of it as God dwelling in the Tabernacle in the Torah, because the New Testament parallels those two things heavily. If the Tabernacle were burnt to the ground, would God be dead? Of course not. I will confess, I do not understand this doctrine that we call the hypostatic union, but his resurrection and the testimony of the whole of Scripture simply force me to believe its truth. God bless, friend.
Winston Smith you are so right the Triune of Gods. From the beginning of false worship. Unlike Moses said hear oh Israel Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. And Jesus said the same thing when he was on the Earth. Never said the Jehovah our God is three Jehovah or he never said I am Jehovah. But Jesus did say of his father that he is the only true God. Jesus refer to himself as the son.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. John 17:3 that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. John 20:17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.
In Jesus christ the fullness of the Diety lives in bodily form, Jesus Christ the one who came by water (eternal spirit)and blood (flesh),and the farther the spirit of truth (divine conscience/wisdom),for the three that testify, and the three are in agreement, Jesus Christ is the head over every power and authority, the one and only true living God who became flesh and walked with man.
This is a good sermon however the "trinity" is based solely in Greek philosophy. The early church fathers did an excellent job guarding against Gnostic theology however it does ignore that Jesus said "If you have seen me you have seen the Father" and the Apostle Paul's claim that the Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus Christ in Phillipians.
CASE IN POINT FOR BIBLE BELIEVERS: The Prophet Moses was considered a G_d before the Pharaoh. Does that mean that he is or was G_d the Creator? Absolutely NOT! likewise with the Messiah when he came to this earth with a different purpose..... if he was called G_d by those who understood that the all Patriarchs were called “gods” or Elohim like Phillip told the Messiah? So, what's the difference??? The big difference is that even the Messiah himself knew that he wasn't the Creator Almighty being. That title and the exclusive worship belongs only to His father and the father only. Luke 4:8 This concept confused so many people that only understood "idolatry" distorting the Scriptures. Worshiping so called "Jesus" is considered idolatry by definition and agaisnt the Commandment of the Eloyim. Repent wicked generation! turn away from idolatry. " The LORD answered Moses, "See I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother will be your prophet." Exodus 7:1 Psalms 82:1-6 The Messiah called his father the "true God" not him. John 17:3 The Messiah was prophesied to be like Moses as a prophet and Savior like Moses, the only big difference is that the Messiah will deliver his people from eternal damnation and Moses delivered his people from idolatry and slavery. Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 So if Moses was considered a G_d before the Pharaoh, why couldn't the Messiah be considered a G-d before kings? Once again, this didn't make Moses or the Messiah the Almighty Elohym to receive worship in any way, shape or form. This act will be considered idolatry for lack of knowledge or ignorance. But ignorance doesn't justify sin of idolatry. The doctrine of the trinity or triune godhead was originated from the Vatican in 325AD first council of Nicea. The Romans were idolaters and worship more than one god and integrated their beliefs into Christianity.They were pagans. Do you follow their example?? Christ taught his disciples to worship only his Father as their God. John 20:17 Do you follow Christ's teachings or the Roman Catholic Church teachings as the originator of the doctrine saying that you should worship Jesus?
Actually, neither the word nor the concept of Trinity is in the Bible. The concept was slowly evolved by early Church fathers from Modalism to Subordination to Trinity. It was finally enacted in Christian Faith in 381 CE. This is because some of the early Church Fathers did not understand the idioms or the language used in Aramaic in the time of Jesus (Peace be upon him). This concept of deification of Jesus (Peace be upon him) started very early - generation right after Polycarp. On the Day of Judgement, the early Church Fathers will not come to rescue. God gave us brain to think, ponder and find out the truth. God sent thousands of Prophets and Messengers and they all taught the mankind that God is One and Only One. There is only One God not three in One. Exodus 20:1-3 And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:7 You shall have no other gods before Me. Luke 4:8 Jesus answered, It is written: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only. (John 17:3) "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (John: 20:17) Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" Quran 20:14 Indeed, I am Allah. There is no other god except Me. So, worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance. Qur'an 21:92 "...I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other)..." Qur'an 2:163 "And your Allah is One Allah: There is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful." Quran: (5:73) They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. Quran: (5:72) They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers. Quran 20: 14 Indeed, I am Allah. There is no other god except Me. So, worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance. Quran 21:25 And We sent not before you (O Muhammad) any messenger except that We revealed to him that, "There is no deity except Me, so worship Me." God revealed the following verse in regard to the factions of Christians who fought each other of having differing views after Jesus and the Disciples left the earth And God knows best. Quran (2:253) Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah spake, while some of them He exalted (above others) in degree; and We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) and We supported him with the holy Spirit. And if Allah had so wiled it, those who followed after them would not have fought one with another after the clear proofs had come unto them. But they differed, some of them believing and some disbelieving. And if Allah had so willed it, they would not have fought one with another; but Allah doeth what He will.
Colossians 2:9 For in him all fullness of deity dwells bodily the Trinitarian claim this verse indicates that "Jesus is God" because it says all the fullness of deity dwells in him bodily . The facts show Paul is referring to Jesus Christ's glorified state and how God dwells in the risen Jesus bodily. The Problems with the claim Translations. (1)for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead corporeally (Douay Rheims) for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily A.S.V for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily K.J.V and more if you look them up . Theotes older translations well translate the Greek word theotes as Godhead. For some unknown reason, many Trinitarian laypeople think this particular word implies the notion of a three person God . This word simply meant God-HOOD and was not a particular word used for the notion of a three person being. in modern English. we would express the same idea by saying something like God-ness or deity in a qualitative sense. here Paul is saying that the essence of Jesus Christ's God dwells in the risen Jesus bodily. The word theotes is not referring to Who but what . Trinitarian recklessly presume this verse can be applied to Jesus in the days of his flesh HEB 5:5 and they do this routinely even though Paul says we no longer know Christ according to the Flesh 2 Cor 5:16 But the context shows beyond any doubt that Paul is obviously referring to the risen Christ COLOSSIANS 1:19 Paul is referring to the same thing where he says in him all the fullness was pleased to dwell . in context, it is clear that he is referring to the glorified Christ, the firstborn of the dead. Colo 2:10 and Eph 3:19 The very next verse indicates that Colo were mode to have the fullness of deity dwell in them. We would obviously not suppose they are God . And again at Eph 3:19 Paul says, that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God We wouldn't suppose this means believes are God.
Amen Amen. A believer can rejoice at this comment, yet a nonbeliever cannot and would find it unnatractive to our Church. i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
@@michaelharrington75 Here’s another great scripture. 1 Corinthians 15:27,28 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.” NWT “For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.” King James
Still trying to understand the trinity? Here is what your cult teaches about the trinity: Not one incomprehensible, but three incomprehensibles; without body, parts, or passions. Your cult says the trinity is incomprehensible. God the Father is not incomprehensible. Doctrine and Covenants 130:22 The Father hath a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's.
It's a trinity shirt. It has "God" in the center, and three circled corners. One circle says "Father", one says "Son", and the other says "Holy Spirit".
His throne in the center, with 24 seats around and 24 elders Picture this in your mind. A clock, the center, where the hands meat. 12 hours AM 12 hours PM 24 hours 12 elder male 12 elder female 12 month male 12 month female It's time. Father time.
When explaining a scripture as philipians 2:6, although it is true, and perfect, and beautiful, The nerw testament letters of the apostles do not hit the thershold of authority to other false religions. So I made this explanation through the scriptures old testament and the words of Jesus. my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
The Trinitarian Doctrine Totally denies the Testimony of JESUS CHRIST AND GOD ...Jesus calls God the only TRUE GOD. John 17:3 , 1 John 5:9-10 , john 20:31, GOD calls Jesus his son. Matthew 16:16-17 , Matthew 3:17...
I love how the only way you can explain the trinity is to hand pick a few versus that make them kinda sound like they are the same person, and then add in an hour of YOUR commentary to create a made up trinity. It’s so extrabiblical and conjured up by man its insane to me. Honestly. You cannot read the Bible alone and come up with this. It’s a belief that you have to hear outside the Bible and then apply it to the Bible to meet those beliefs in verses here and there.
Hello Jesus is the Messiah The Son of God The Son of David The Son of man The man God has chosen to be his anointed king The man God will judge the world through The man God raised from the dead Jesus has a God There is no triune god in scripture Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. -
If Jesus is the LORD oF hosts then Jesus is God: Isaiah 47:4 (KJV) [As for] our redeemer, the LORD of hosts [is] his name, the Holy One of Israel. Psalms 24:10 (KJV) Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he [is] the King of glory. Selah. Psalms 84:3 (KJV) Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, [even] thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God. Isaiah 54:5 (KJV) For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
hi i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I believe you will be blessed and have revelation. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
2000 years gone by and you guys are still trying to work out the Trinity?????? OMG, What has the Holy Spirit being doing all these years if it can't even get you guys over the first hurdle!!!!
A person could spend an eternity studying and still not understand God. What makes you think you've got God figured out completely? You don't. You couldn't begin to even comprehend the Nature of God and His being. Especially if you don't know Jesus, and have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside.
why did Jesus say why do you call me good, there is only one that is good and that is the Father. Is "Trinity ever spoke of in the word?" So Jesus is the Holy Spirit, or the Father is? .. Catholics like every other pagan religion, are trinities. I don't understand.. How can one become one of the elect if there are 3 doctrines.? Unitarians .. Modalism .. Trinity? And they all accuse each other of freakin HERESY!!! What Jesus mean by, "You will do greater things than me?"..."THE" IS used in baptism, in the name of the Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit. Did Christ tell us how to pray? Did he say to pray to Holy Spirit? Yes, they're al HeShem Adonia. Yahweh, Yahshua, no name is ever given to H.S Unless you're gnostic and SHE is called Sophia! Another heresy.
I need to unwrap what you are trying to say so i will start with your first statement. "why did Jesus say why do you call me good, there is only one that is good and that is the Father" So what you are saying is that Jesus is not GOOD.... Can i get your confirmation that Jesus is NOT Good....
God the creator The son was the first Angel, son of God Son of man. All three in the flesh. In the name of the father Melchizedek In the name of the son Immanuel In the name of the holy spirit Daniel the prophet.
God the creator is the only one that is good. Jesus being his only son, is the first Angel, In the flesh. But Immanuel is his name. Daniel the prophet was told what was written in the book of truth, and will rise up at the end times. The spirit of truth.
After Jesus baptism, he was tempted by the Devil. Jesus said: "Go away, Satan! For it is written,' It is Jehovah(Gods name found in Psalm 83:18) your God you must worship, and it is to him ALONE you must render sacred service. '(Matthew 4:10; Deuteronomy 6:13) We can learn at least two things from this incident. First, Satan was trying to entice Jesus to worship someone other than Jehovah, an attempt that would have been absurd if Jesus were part of the same God. Second, Jesus made it clear that there is just one God who must be worshiped when he said " him ALONE," not "US," which he would have said if he were part of a Trinity.
***** Indeed. Many Christian denominations(and other religions) teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.” If you really 'examine' what the Bible says, and do not simply accept what certain ones claim that it says, you will find reason to trust it.
***** Greetings. Thank you for the comment. Isaiah 8:20 does have a good point. If I may, would like to share an article with you that dives deeper into the origin of how the Trinity was developed. WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THE MYTH? “The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”-New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299. “The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, 325 [C.E.]. Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father.’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”-Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Volume 6, page 386. WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY? “Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at God’s right hand. ‘Look! I can see heaven thrown open,’ he said, ‘and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God.’”-Acts 7:55, 56, The New Jerusalem Bible. What did this vision reveal? Filled with God’s active force, Stephen saw Jesus “standing at God’s right hand.” Clearly, then, Jesus did not become God again after his resurrection to heaven but, rather, a distinct spiritual being. There is no mention of a third person next to God in this account. Despite attempts to find passages of Scripture to support the Trinity dogma, Dominican priest Marie-Émile Boismard wrote in his book À l’aube du christianisme-La naissance des dogmes (At the Dawn of Christianity-The Birth of Dogmas): “The statement that there are three persons in the one God . . . cannot be read anywhere in the New Testament.” The dogma that Constantine championed was intended to put an end to dissensions within the fourth-century Church. However, it actually raised another issue: Was Mary, the woman who bore Jesus, “the Mother of God”? Compare these Bible verses: Matthew 26:39; John 14:28; 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28; Colossians 1:15, 16 What do you think of this information friend?
***** Good afternoon. Thanks for replying back. I appreciate your honesty on what you believe in. I also will respect on how you choose to live. I came to this CZcams video to have positive discussions on what the [THE WHOLE (2 Timothy 3:16,17)] Bible says on the subject, not what a man might think on what is true. I did not come to convert anyone or be converted myself. I hope you can respect that. If you would like to talk more about, "WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE TRINITY" please feel free to hit me up.
***** Afternoon again. You say in the second paragraph, "THE TRINITY IS A FARCE" If you look at the top of this discussion on the first thing I wrote, you will see that we are in a agreement. The Bible does not teach the trinity doctrine, I truly believe in that. That is the only thing I wanted to address on this page, nothing more. I hope you don't mind but, I try not to get side tracked into conversations that has nothing to do with the subject. For me it can lead to misunderstanding. If I visit another video forum pertaining to the questions you asked me, than I will participate. For this forum, i would like to stick to THE TRINITY DOCTRINE. If you have a link to another video that addresses what your talking about, please send me a link :)
Amen Amen. A believer can rejoice at this comment, yet a nonbeliever cannot and would find it unnatractive to our Church. i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
Pastor prays, "Father, God, Lord"...a Trinity in itself. Not a single name. The first sentence in the Bible has god's name, Elohim. Gen 1:27 says that God is male and female....not 3 males. Gen 1:2 is female's name is Ruach Elohim. (not Holy Spirit or Spirit of God)...Gen 2:4 is male's name YHWH Elohim. Gen 1:2 is the creation of Their son,,,,firstborn of all creation Col 1:15.
David, That is a unique perspective that God is female. I have never seen where it refers to God as "her" or "she" so please return that bottle of wisdom you are drinking from for a full refund. Starting at the beginning has proven to be difficult for some. Take a look at Deuteronomy 29:4 and pray for your understanding. I will too...
If only God is our savior, and There is no savior but God, and Jesus was born to be our savior.....Jesus is God! Jude 1:25 (KJV) To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. Hosea 13:4 (KJV) Yet I [am] the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for [there is] no saviour beside me. Luke 2:11 (KJV) For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Titus 1:4 (KJV) To Titus, [mine] own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, [and] peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. 2 Peter 1:1 (KJV) Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God} But unto the Son he {God } saith, Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is, forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom. The Holy Spirit applies this to Jesus in (Hebrews) and to The Father in (Psalm 45:6). Psalm 45:6 Your throne, O God, will last, forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. Deuteronomy 6:13-14 {Holy Spirit said worship only God.} "You shall fear only the LORD your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.”You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you, Luke 4:8 {Jesus reminds satan only God is to be worshiped} And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve. Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus} And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father decrees all will worship him) In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.” Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52 And when they saw him, they worshiped him: And they worshiped him. John 20:28, 29 {The Holy Spirit thru Thomas calls Jesus God} And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. { o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article. …..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Romans 9:5 {The Holy Spirit thru Paul calls Jesus GOD} Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV I Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Titus 2:13 Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, Philippians 2:5-7 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man: John 1:1, 2,3,14 { The Holy Spirit thru John calls Jesus God} In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word . Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos He was in [the] beginning with God. All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being. And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us, John 1:9-10 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. Acts 20:28 {The Holy Spirit thru Luke calls Jesus God} Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. 2 Peter 1:1 {The Holy Spirit thru Peter calls Jesus God} Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours: Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit thru the prophets calls Jesus God} Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Matthew 1:23 (The Holy Spirit thru Matthew defines the name Immanuel, Jesus is GOD} Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Revelation 1:8, 22:13, 16 (Jesus claims to be GOD) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last… I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM) And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. And Yet God is one Mark 12:28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: So who is HE? czcams.com/video/2OoUvneyE5Q/video.html In His service,
This makes no sense at all. Anyone who thinks it does is deluded. Not 3 gods but 1 god in 3 persons but each of the 3 persons is fully god but not 3 fully gods but just 1 god lol.
Hmm! You make no sense at all. Anyone that says a man and his wife are 1 couple yet 2 DISTINCTLY different persons, equal in importance to the furtherance of their marriage makes no sense. Genesis 2: 24; Mark 10: 8; Ephesians 5: 31. Lol! 😂
Nice try but try harder next time. Yes a man and a woman are ONLY a couple when they are COMBINED. So with the same analogy the trinity is god only when they are COMBINED. A man is not a couple on his own but only when the woman is included. But you believe jesus is fully god on his own and so is the fathet and the spirit.
Tania Ruba Not good enough buddy. Not good enough. Here is some lecture for you: The man and the woman are a couple ONLY when they are COMBINED, so also the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are a Trinity ONLY when they are COMBINED. The man is not a couple and the woman is not a couple, so also the Father is not a Trinity, nor is the Son a Trinity, nor is the Holy Spirit a Trinity. But here is where it gets interesting buddy: The husband is not a flesh, and the wife is not a flesh (Genesis 2:24), but they each are DISTINCTLY and fully human. So also the Father is not a god, nor the Son a god, nor the Holy Spirit a god, but they each are DISTINCTLY and fully God. Please note the small "g" and the capital "G". I suggest you do some more study next time. Once you can fully understand the Scriptural concept of Marriage, then you can understand the Biblical concept of the Trinity. Ha-ha! 😂
+Tosin Samuel Nice try but i'l give you a second chance lol. I agree with you if you combine the father, son and the spirit then you have the trinity. So you should say you only have one trinity NOT ONE GOD LOL. Like when you have a man and a woman YOU HAVE ONE COUPLE not one man or one woman lol. The father is fully god, the son is fully god and the spirit is fully god. combine them together and you have 1 trinity but still 3 gods. A man and a woman are 2 humans but ONE couple. The father, son and spirit is 3 gods but one trinity :-) When you find your logic and reason then you're welcome to reply lol
And this is life eternal, that they might KNOW thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Jn 17:3 Dictionary: Know-to have understanding of. incomprehensible-impossible to understand. source: Merriam-Webster-Learner's dictionary.
A Mystery is something that is unexplainable. Christians say the Trinity is a mystery, but at the sametime they try to explain the mystery. The more you try to explain or understand a man made mystery the more you misunderstand it.
That's a cute semantical argument. I guess you didn't watch the video. It can't be fully understand in the sense that we can't relate to 3 persons being 1 being, because every human we know is 1 person and 1 being. That doesn't mean we can't understand the concept and see that it's affirmed in scripture. It's like time itself. We exist in time and space, but scientists agree that time and space came into existence at the "big bang." We Christians would call this "creation." But anyways, even scientists generally admit that whatever caused the universe had to exist outside of time and space. It had to be infinite. Can a scientist fully comprehend something being infinite? Of course not. Can he understand the theory? Sure. God cannot be fully understood by finite beings, as He is infinite. But we can understand Him on a finite level. So no, your semantics/equivocation argument won't work here.
The mystery is the Holy Spirit will come at the time of the end. And no one has got the names right yet. Melchizedek is the father. Immanuel is the son. You have to wait to see who the holy spirit is. Think about this, he is someone from the old testament. God had raised him from the dead, just like he did the one we call Jesus.
Yes, I can help you: the almighty God cannot be here for logical reasons, this is why He is in the past "the world has not known you". Thus, He can be present here now only in the form of a spirit. This is why in the Creation everything has been PERSONALLY made by Him (water, stars...) and now it's NOT POSSIBLE anymore (everything is now made by his Spirit). His Spirit is no "third God Person", is the Spirit of God HIMSELF ! "God is a spirit". Didn't you notice that neither the Father nor the Son ever talk to an alleged "third God-Person"? God is in the past, all sentences regarding his Person refer to the past , "You lovED me BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN"). Only then that happened, in the past, NO LOVE from the almighty God beyond that point of time ! When Jesus was baptized the Spirit of God, that is "God who is a spirit" simply said "...my beloved Son...", that's all. "Holy Spirit" and the "Spirit of God" are synonyms (see the gospels).
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand. czcams.com/video/bp8UQSpZ9Ao/video.html
He states... the most common error is what trinitarian’s call “modalism” (the TRUTH)... so the enemy of his false doctrine is the truth. But he calls the truth error... He needs to simply dissect & understand the definition of MONOTHEIST... It will refute his entire premise...
there is so much wrong with his interpretation it's not even funny. he takes many passages and interprets them one way and totally disregards the other passages that have a contradictory message than the one he holds to, which obviously that is why he disregards them. It's just sad that in many Christian belief systems they tend to only adhere to and agree with the passages that also agree with their preconceived understanding of who they want God to be. the irony is that Jeff condemned other religions for doing the exact same thing he is doing. not to mention the inaccurate interpretations of the doctrines he mentions from other religions. for instance I've study a lot about the Mormon (LDS) religion and they definitely don't agree with or believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. (3 distinct and individual persons which make up one eternal and perfect being that is God). just because doctrine are misunderstood or different from what you already believe doesn't mean they are wrong, just means you can't comprehend them yet, just as Jeff admitted that he can't comprehend God and could never hope to do so. the odd thing is that in John 17:3 we are taught that the only way to get eternal life is to know God. the issue comes when in order to know God you also have to be able to comprehend who He is and how He works, and Jeff admitted He doesn't comprehend or know God thus signifying that he in turn doesn't have a true understanding of the scriptures or the doctrines of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
+scott banta You are right when you say we should know God, or what God has revealed of Himself. What is it John 17:3 tells us we should know about God? That He is the Father, "the only true God" and that the Father "sent" His Son Jesus Christ.
TheCaledonianBoy yes and not only are we encouraged to know God the Eternal Father but we are commanded to be like Him. (Matthew 5:48) and how could we ever hope to obey this command to be like Him if we don't learn to make perfect choices like Him and come to know everything about Him.
Jeff is just reading what the scriptures say and lets them speak for themself just like genesis where it reads let us go down and create man in our image. Angels do not create they are created so who was God speaking to obviously God the son and God the Holy Spirit wake up smell the coffee and quit drinking the Kool-Aid by reading what you had to say I can tell that you have allowed humanism to slip into your brain cells and you think because you are in control it can't be true. But realize you have a 3 lb brain that I hope you don't believe you can grasp everything just like when God said his ways are not our ways. Let's take a look at Isaiah 9 chapter 6 for instance. It reads for a child will be born to us a son will be given to us and the government will rest on his shoulders and his name will be called wonderful counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. It seems like you may know a little bit about the Bible have you ever known it to speak of anybody except God the father being eternal? or from ancient times??? Let's not forget who wrote Isaiah. Isaiah was a monotheistic Jew who believed in only one God but here and Isaiah 9:6 you see that he speaking of Jesus as God almighty. And you probably are pulling out the Sharpie to scribble out that passage in all your Bibles right? Oh don't put it away yet let's take a look yet Micah 5:2 where it reads for you Bethlehem ephrathah though you are small among the many clans of Judah out from you will come forth for me a ruler over Israel whose Origins are from old from ancient times.... Who was born in Bethlehem oh yeah Jesus. Who was the ruler over it oh yeah Jesus and there we have it again Isaiah saying that Jesus was from ancient times Jesus Is God God In the Flesh and and Jesus said unless you believe that I am you will die in your sins something to think really hard about friend. You religion won't be there when you take your last breath your mommy or your daddy. Absent from the body is present with the Lord and you will be in the presence of Jesus and your knee will be bowed just the way scripture says for every knee will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Since you seem to be a little confused let me repeat it and meditate on it with your 3-pound brain. Within the one being that is God there are three co-equal Co Eternal persons the father Son and the Holy Spirit. Do you notice when scripture says pray in the name of the father Son and Holy Spirit that's singular name? It just keeps going on buddy I'm not saying this because I'm mad at you I want you to wake up and be born again John 3:3 so that you can realize John 1:1and believe the word became flesh. Fyi John is a monotheistic Jew😉
God is not a schizophrenic look up where Trinity came from...the Catholics because they couldn't find an understanding of one God. Nor the prophets Apostles or Jesus preached the Trinity.
Have you read the Bible? The word 'trinity' was used by Tertullian long before Catholicism hijacked Christianity. The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God-three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity: 1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5). 2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity. In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity. 3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father. 4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16). 5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14. 6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things. The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent. The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit. www.gotquestions.org/Trinity-Bible.html
I am so thankful to our Lord and God for this pastor because This video has given me the exact context and Bible proof I needed to explain my beliefs to my Mormon LDS husband in a way that is absolutely clear. May the Lord open his ears and understanding of the one and true identity of God. 🙏🏻
Your LDS husband is deceived. I say that in humility. The Jesus of Mormonism is not the Jesus of scripture. Keep praying for understanding. Blessings to you and him.
@@brotherderek You say that in all deception. The trinity was invented by Emperor Constantine at the Council of Nicene. The Bible does not teach a trinity. Colossians 2:Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
@@rbwinn3 is Jesus God?
@@brotherderek Jesus Christ is Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament, the God who created this earth. There was never a time when Jehovah was not God, not before Mary was told by the angel Gabriel she would be the mother of the Son of God. When Jesus Christ was in his mother's womb, he was not only a child, Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child., he was a God. When Jesus lived his mortal life on earth as the Son of God, he was a God. When Jesus was being crucified, he was a God. When Jesus arose from the tomb and appeared to his disciples in the upper room, he was a God. Luke 24:39 Handle me and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
So now concerned Christians tell you that Emperor Constantine was correct, Jesus was a trinity, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost all at the same time. If you believe this, you believe that Jesus prayed to himself, ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of a sort of cloud without body, parts, or passions, as a resurrected being with a body of flesh and bones. See Luke 24:39. So go ahead and explain this trinity. Jeff Durbin did not explain it. All he did was talk in circles.
Jesus Christ explained it. He said he had a Father in Heaven. He said he was ascending to heaven to be with his Father. How did he do that if he was his own Father?
So here is what members of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe:
3 Nephi 11:32 And this is my doctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear record of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the Holy Ghose beareth record of the Father and me.\
Doctrine and Covenants 130:22 The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.
The doctrine of trinity came from Emperor Constantine, who insisted that his interpretation of God be accepted if Christianity was to become a state church of the Roman Empire.
Ask preacher Durbin where the word trinity appears in the Bible. It does not.
The correct word is Godhead.
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
2 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
@@rbwinn3 So, are you Mormon?
Awesome!!!! I am teaching the trinity to my teen Sunday school class..this helped alot.
Deuteronomy 33:27 {The Father has always been he is eternal}
The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.
Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isaiah 48:12
“Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last.
Rev 1:8;
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Jeremiah 23:24 {The Omnipresence of the Father}
Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? Saith the LORD.
Proverbs 15 {The omniscience of the Father}
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1 John 3:20
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.
Romans 11:33
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!
Matthew 19:26 {The Omnipotence of The Father}
But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, with men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the Lord of host; I am he the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Revelation 1: 8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.
Malachi 3:6 {The Immutability of the Father}
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
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John 8:58; 1:4; 5:26 {Jesus is self - Existent}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Micah 5:2 {Jesus has always been he is eternal}
But thou, Bethlehem Ephrata, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Revelation 1:11, 22:16
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: …
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
>> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Revelation 1:17-18
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last:
John 12:44-50; 14:16 {Jesus is infallible}
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.
Matthew 18:20; 28:19-20; John 3:13 {The Omnipresence of the Son}
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Ephesians 4:10
He that descended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things
John 21:17; 2:24-25; 18:4 {The omniscience of the Son}
He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, feed my sheep.
Colossians 2:3
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
John 2:24-25
But Jesus would not entrust himself to them, for he knew all people.
He did not need any testimony about mankind, for he knew what was in each person.
John 16:30
Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God."
Matthew 28:18; John 6: 36; 14:11; 15:24 {The Omnipotence of The Son}
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth.
Revelation 22:13, 16
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Philippians 3:21
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Hebrews 13:8 {The Immutability of the Son}
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
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Hebrews 9:14 {The Holy Spirit has always been he is eternal and Omnipresent }
How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
Psalm 139:7
Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?
1 Corinthians 2:10-11 {The Omniscience of the Spirit}
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
“Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.”
1 Corinthians 12:8-11 {The Omnipotence of The Spirit }
For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
But all these worketh that one and the self-same Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matthew 28:19
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
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And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
In His service,
@@canderssonswedican7486 If you are seeking to establish a Catholic Trinity by quoting the above, you did nothing of the kind. There is NO Bible text which tells us that the one God is made up of 3 individuals. 1 John 5:7 merely says that God the Father, Jesus and their Spirit agree together in the testimony they bear - that is what the following verse says in repetition. Instead John the Apostle taught us to acknowledge 2 divine beings:
1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
Name a Catholic apostle and the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible is he Catholic? The Father calls the Son, God is he Catholic? Jesus claims to be The Great I Am is he Catholic? The apostles call Jesus God are they Catholic? Obviously you have never studied the bible. The Catholic Church did not officially start to 280 AD the gospels had already been written by Jewish followers. Catholicism has nothing to do with the nature of God.
@@canderssonswedican7486
I have studied this subject for many YEARS friend!
He calls Him God because He is of the same divine nature. Hebrews 1 tells us that clearly.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even THY GOD, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
The God of Jesus, the One who anoints Him, is the Father. It's never the other way round. There is no verse ascribing to Jesus authority over the Father. In fact the Bible is very clear that Jesus is "subject" to the Father and always will be.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him THAT PUT ALL THINGS UNDER HIM, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.
Here, it is very clear WHO God is - "even the Father." God, who is the Father - and is the highest authority - at first put all things under Christ. Christ then relinquishes the authority back "that God may be all in all."
There is no confusion in the Bible and Paul's writings over this whatsoever.
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"There is no confusion in the Bible and Paul's writings over this whatsoever."
Correct, the Holy Spirit knew what he was writing, after all he is God. He knows first-hand who Jesus and the Father is...God.
Thank you so much for this !!!!! Much love Jeff!
Thank you Jeff you did a great job explaining the Trinity. Thank you
God bless
"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God...These then teach *three hypostases,* just as *Valentinus the [Gnostic] heresiarch* first invented in the book entitled by him On the Three Natures. For he was *the first to invent THREE hypostases and THREE persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes, Plato and Aristotle."* (Source: AHB Logan: Marcellus of Ancyra (Pseudo-Anthimus), On the Holy Church: Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS, Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95 )
hi i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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Excellent . For the first time in 30 years I now believe I understand The Trinity correctly
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In the name of the father Melchizedek
In the name of the son Immanuel
In the name of the holy spirit Daniel the prophet
Simple. Trinitarianism is blatant Tritheism. Trinitarians worship Three Gods. period.
Being honest, it was hard for me as a Catholic to understand the Trinity. Who was Jesus speaking to while on the cross? He called out to the Father....so I reluctantly converted to Mormonism. I left after 10 years. My soul was not being spiritually fed. It felt as if it was withering . Thank you so very much for this explanation.
Heart soul and mind, that was in Christ, is the image of the invisible God. Think about a heart soul and mind that loves all in one person. Jesus was the image of invisible God a trinity.
The trinity is a man made false doctrine
How on Earth could you convert to mormonism just because Christ was calling out to the father?
@@cc3775 you are wrong
@@poorchristopher15 not according to scripture
“but now you seek to kill me, a MAN who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did.”
John 8:40 ESV
“because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a MAN whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.””
Acts 17:31 ESV
““Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know- this Jesus, delivered up taccording to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men. God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it.”
Acts 2:22-24 ESV
“For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus,”
1 Timothy 2:5 ESV
“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.”
John 17:3 ESV
“Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’””
John 20:17 ESV
“The one who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of MY God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of MY God, and the name of the city of MY God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down from MY God out of heaven, and my own new name.”
Revelation 3:12 ESV
“And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?””
Luke 2:49 ESV
““For God so loved the world, that he gave his only BEGOTTEN Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.”
John 3:16 ESV
“and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.””
Matthew 3:17 ESV
“that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
Romans 15:6 ESV
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,”
2 Corinthians 1:3 ESV
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,”
Ephesians 1:3 ESV
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,”
1 Peter 1:3 ESV
JEFF, I have been studying the word for 7 years now everyday. Some days I feasted for hours. I was starving for the bread of life! I’m still on fire, and especially for eschatology, and ecclesiology. The Lord drove me to the book of Genesis in the book of Revelation specifically which are my favorites. I understand the prophecy is 1/3 of the Bible and completely ignored by most of the churches. And I love how you did the sermon. However, I cannot wrap my brain around the fact that God is one but three separate persons. My commonsense brain tells me if there are three separate persons how can there be one and even though I know my scripture just like you do I keep falling into modulism.( sorry for spelling) I am in contact on a daily basis with Jehovah witnesses who deny Jesus Christ is God in the flesh and I know my scripture and how to refute them. But my brain just can’t wrap around the fact that if God is only “one “how can there be “three “separate person’s because that would make three?? Frustrating. I believe 100 percent but have a tough time explaining this to a Jehovah witness other than most of the scripture that they deny.
Loren Darezzo Maybe is shouldn’t eat so much.. you may not be so crabby
They are three separate beings but “one” in purpose. Perfectly unified.
i come to think of it as a family. you have multiple ppl within a family but still 1 family. and thats kinda like the Godhead.
God is not a Trinity in unity of 3 separate persons.
Read the book of John for starters. Easily you will come to understand who Jesus claims to be and who he claims God to be.
Now when you read John and the rest of the NT take notice in how the Christ speaks of God and his relation to him, then take notice of what all the apostles claimed.
This should clarify but if not, another way to understand is too simply search the New Testament in regards of all the times God the Father spoke with an audible voice for many to hear, there are 3 instances (Baptism, mount and garden) where God speaks and 2 of 3 specifically state who Jesus is in relation to God the Father. This should be all you need, for the authority of God in what he says is the final authority on all matters. Remember that God is not a man, that he would lie.
By this point it should be evident without a shadow of a doubt who Christ is, Who God the Father is, their relationship and the spirit is how they are one. Once again John makes this very clear.
Remember God is the God of truth and revelation, not mysteries and anyone who claims that the Trinity is a mystery does not really know their God.
I suggest you use a exhaustive concordance or a website like god.net , understanding the word God from Greek translation will show that the word has multiple meanings depending on the the context.
Now context is very important and you will see that the word God can mean divine or the divine one, high magistrate, etc but within context is important otherwise out of context (cherry picking, on one word or phrase) is not the proper way to study the word of God.
If you wish to study with an open mind and submit yourself in prayer to God by way of and in the name of Jesus to reveal to you the truth of the Trinity then study videos regarding the Trinity by Nader Mansour, then go to God and let him by way of his holy spirit minister to you the truth, for man has no authority over you but John 17:3
May God the Father and the only begotten Son of God (Jn3:16) bless you!
You're correct. Try getting someone to explain that false doctrine using only Scriptual language. No Trinity, eternal Son, God the Son, God the Holy Spiriit, one God in 3 persons, etc. None of which are in the Bible. They can't do it. If you describe the Godhead using non-Scriptual terms, you are in violation of the Lords command in Revelation 22:18.
Amazing Sermon.... I love Trinity...... This Channel is so Blessings to me
hi i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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Luke 22:41-44
And he withdrew from them about a stone's throw away, and he bent his
knees and began to pray, 42 saying: "Father, if you want to,
remove this cup from me. Nevertheless, let, not my will, but yours
take place." 43 Then an angel from heaven appeared to him and
strengthened him. 44 But he was in such agony that he kept praying
more earnestly; and his sweat became as drops of blood falling to the
ground. John 14:28
You heard that I said to you, "I am going away and I am coming
back to you." If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going
to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am. John 20:17
Jesus said to her: "Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet
ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, "I
am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your
God."" 1 Corinthians 8:6 there is actually to us one God,
the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one
Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
arbonac AMEN
No trinity
If Jesus isn't God you're an idolater
@@cc3775 lol
Jeff Durbin, I would love to relocate to speak with you all the time & to be part of your Ministry, relocate to US, your State. You are 1 of the loosest & gifted, groomed, knowledgeable biblical, passionate, energetic speaker I have ever heard, even thought I do not understand for 4+ decades concepts (Learning Disability, a demonic stronghold) I'm glad you listened to people's prophecies that you will teach, preach...when you did not want to or believe you could. Christ, God, Holy Spirit must be flowing in your mind, heart, soul, your life, your mouth.
Believe it or not, I don't believe I am saved because I am still sin, feel void, stupid, ashamed & I do not understand biblical nor have the patience, brain power for teachings in general, even biblical ones like this.
I pray to be saved & delivered & be like Christ, like Jeff Durbin. I want to fulfill my Destiny. I am Greek & have many talents & interests to be used for His glory.
How does one educate a "Pastor" who thinks he knows it all? His truth is not of the Bible. He does not know WHO or WHAT "God" is. He makes a son, a created entity, to be God. John 14:6.....I am the Way, Truth and the Life......no one comes to the father except through me. (He did not say that "I am God", did he?) Then, he talks about the Father. If he had a Father, who gave birth to him? He is a son, means he was pro-created. Mother is a pre-requisite to be a son. Gen 1:3 Elohim said, "Let there be light". John 1:7 He came as a witness, to testify about the Light, so that all might believe through him. Col 1:15 FIRSTBORN of all creation. God created all things thru Their son Col 1:16; John 1:3 Gen 1:27 God is a "bi-unity" of male and female (Father, Mother)...not a Trinity of 3 males; (talking about a homosexual god). In Greek pneuma (spirit) is a neutered noun, meaning it is neither male or female. In Gen 1:2 Ruach (spirit, feminine) is the name of the female half of God (Elohim)...Ruach Elohim. YHWH Elohim is the male's name for the male half of Elohim Gen 2:7. Read the Bible...don't change what is there to suit your theology. God, has a name, Elohim. Elohim is male and female. YHWH Elohim, Ruach Elohim. Their son is the FIRSTBORN of all creation. Their son was born to a Jewish family and had a Jewish name, Yahoshua Messiah...not a Greek/Anglo name Jesus Christ. This "Pastor" (only Yahoshua or his father is our PASTOR) has a false name and a false god and is leading this entire group and internet into a condemned state...laughing and joking...all the way. Believe in Yahoshua, the son of Elohim....and you will be saved. John 1:12 to all who called on his NAME will e saved. Acts 4:12 There is Salvation in no other NAME, Yahoshua. Bean
Faye Lewis 1 week ago
The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence and three in person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God. www.desiringgod.org/articles/what-is-the-doctrine-of-the-trinity
1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16). gotquestions.org
To understand the trinity you first have to understand that there is no trinity
I remember the trinity and hearing the idea for the first time and I always thought it was man made. And yes the word is man made which is why I dont use the word. But there is a full understanding of This scripture "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." And It is Fully biblical That Jesus name is "The Word of God" its His most important name. The Word was Made Flesh johnch1:14
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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@@wdbible129 The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
@@ironeagle9850 what about them
@@wdbible129 We believe the trinity is a man made concept. We believe the father, son, and Holy Ghost are three separate beings, but one in purpose.
@@ironeagle9850 Christians believe Jesus is the Word/Expression of God. And The Spirit of God lives through His Word.
The Word of God is From Everlasting to Everlasting and so is The Spirit from everlasting .
I've been debating a Unitarian (not a Jehovah's witness) and he has brought up every verse that he believes shows that Jesus isn't divine. He is the first born of all creation, and speaks of the father as his God and never mentions the Trinity. He's is fluent in Greek, Arabic and even Latin. I am very new to the truth and my studies.
I believe Jesus Christ is The Lord God incarnate as the Son. Please help me defend the truth if you can.
P.S God bless and thank you my brothers and sisters. Love from Wales 🏴
Listen to this sermon, good start to Apprehend the Trinity Three who's and one what.
You won’t be defending the truth. The trinity is a man made doctrine. If we read the scripture what is it plainly telling us? There are no scriptures that validate the trinity.
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Well the question is which Trinity. The church fathers trinity that they called all other doctrines heresy? Or the trinity as the church believes it today which the first church would have called heresy?
The Trinity is Fase believe
If it is confused it is not of God. Period. God never says he is a 3 persons, NOWHERE. God says he is a Spirit John 4:24. God says I AM THAT I AM Exodus 3:14, not I AM 3 PERSONS THAT I ARE. NO.
During Jesus on earth, God manifested in Jesus. Jesus is a puppet - meaning the Father speaks, Jesus move his mouth, whatever the Father does Jesus does also etc...
At the cross Jesus cried out twice. Cry out 1 the Father left him. Cry out 2 his own spirit left him. All is left is Jesus' body on the cross and in the tomb.
At the resurrection, God raise the dead body, took on the body, turn it into a glorify body, God took the shapes, forms and the characteristic of the body. God took back his name which is Jesus (Jesus is God's name or God himself before given to the created and temporary body for the fulfillment, the only begotten Son of God). So the Jesus you know today is actually God himself known by many titles, the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, the Alpha & Omega, I AM, Almighty...etc. but God real name is Jesus Christ Acts 2:38 That is why Jesus commanded his disciples to baptised everybody in the (name - no s) of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in Matthew28:19. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not names, they are titles. So, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit has a name and that name is Jesus Christ.
What about Stephan saw Jesus stands at the right hand of God in Acts 7:55 and God says Let "US" elsewhere in the Bible then?
These are not difficult to answer. Msg me if you need to understand more.
Why is the first guy wearing his little brother's teeshirt?
The suppression of Truth is why people are enforcing this idolitary of trinity.
Agreed, lies make more money than truth, but truth sets you free.
God is so Amazing. I have to say it more, I love the Trinity.
nonsense doctrine of trinity
+Joems Gazer
It's easy to make an assertion, it's another thing to actually back it up.
underground0331 yeah,correct especially when we talk about trinity...hehe
***** trinity is a satanic doctrine?
+The Essene Way I agree with you...
I believed and taught the trinity until at the age of 40 I got challenged to study it. 11yrs later I can tell you with 100% assurance from the bible the trinity is a false doctrine that is not a mystery it is nonsense. This man makes many truth statements that are not found in the bible. Jesus and his disciples did not teach or believe the trinity. Do the study for yourself. Jesus is Gods only begotten son. He is our messiah our saviour. The trinity wreaks the gospel message. Another Jesus another God.
Nice opinion/anectdote and spiral towards Presumptive heretical blasphemy those that reject who God is are Not Christian and are better off just starting there own religion and call it God in a boxism something other than Christian it is an essential that has to be acquiesced to whether you "understand" it or not. Obvious you were never of Us, Hope you will be elected before the judgement otherwise your a side gater and destined for Hell.
Amen! I also grew up and was taught the doctrine of the trinity, It never made sense. There’s no special mystery we have to know to understand the Bible.
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@@IamGreatsword it would behoove you to read scripture without bias and preconceived notions. Do a little history research and you’ll find what was said above is quite true.
Jeffy the youngster! Great job diesel Durbin 👍
So, who coined the word trinitas or trinity and who formulated the doctrine of the trinity?
Is Jesus the mystery and revelation and glory of God the Father or is it the trinity?
Critical Thinking arguments:
If The LORD God created everything, and all things were made by Jesus according to John then Jesus is the LORD God.
Genesis 2:4 (KJV) These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
John 1:3 (KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
JWs will point out it was made “through” him. Any argument for that?
Jeff looking so young .
Isaiah 9:6 There are several issues in this verse , most of them related to the Hebrew grammar which are debated between Christians and also between Jews and sometimes between Jews and Christians . the following list shows some of the issues which are discussed . (1) The tense of the Hebrew verbs sometimes an issue among Christians . (2) The lack of a definite article before the name sometime an issue among Christians (3) How the entire name should be understood and translated usually not an issue among Christians (4) The translation of the Hebrew word Gibbor sometimes an issue but only among Christians (5) The translation of the Hebrew word EL an issue mainly among Christians . (6) How the Jewish Septuagint (LXX) translation bears upon the intended meaning of this verse . (7) How the ancient Jews understood this verse (i.e. Targums ) (8) Whether this verse is only about Hezekiah or about Jesus or whether it should apply to Hezekiah as well as Jesus (9) this verse is not mentioned anywhere in the new testament although Matthew quotes the verse immediately preceding Isaiah 9:6 and he also quoted Isaiah 7:14 Trinitarians presume the name by which the Messiah well be called, this name is describing who the Messiah is and therefore the Messiah is a wonderful counsel the mighty God an Eternal Father the Translate the Hebrews words EL GiBBoR this Term is used two Chapters later in Isaiah . A remnant well return the remnant of Jacob to the Mighty God 10:21 . Jerusalem in not God , by the same token on cannot claim the Messiah is God either at Jeremiah 26:6 because it is virtually the very same language being used .
Christ taught the Disciples how to pray and specifically taught when you pray pray to the Father in my name I notice you prayed to both Father and Jesus, why is that when Christ clearly tells us how to pray?
I will be praying for you
Rev 22:18 Don't be adding to the book. (Trinity)
The trinity is the most beautiful concept in all of Scripture.
@@fayelewis5476 Amen!
Isaiah 42:8 48:11-12 {God will never share his glory}
I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, and I will not give my glory unto another. I am he; I am the first, I also am the Last.
Revelation 1: 8 (He is the first and the last the beginning and the end the Alpha and Omega)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was and which is to come, the Almighty.
Philippians 2:5-7 {of what did he empty himself}
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation (emptied), and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man:
{The Greek reads as follows}
Who in form of God subsisting not rapinesteemed it to be equal with god;
John 14:28 {Jesus in human form occupies a lower position then the Father}
"You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved
me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.'"
Hebrews 2:9 {Jesus Humbled himself while walking among us}
But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone
Galatians 4:4 {Jesus set aside his divine nature to be born as a human}
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,
John 5:30
“I can do nothing on my own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.”
Colossians 2:9 {Yet he was still GOD}
For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
John 17:5 {God shares his glory} {of his right to exercise his deity}
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Matthew 28:18 {which he takes up after the resurrection}
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, all power {authority} is given (surrendered) unto me in heaven and in earth.
Revelation 1: 11-14, 22:13, 16 {Jesus assumes his correct position as GOD}
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: …
And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;…
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man,
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
>> have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Revelation 1:17-18 {the Holy Spirit thru John states Jesus is the First and the Last?}
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, fear not; I am the first and last:
I am he that liveth, and was…………….. Dead, and, behold, I am alive for evermore, A-men; and have the keys of hell and of death
John 1:1, 2,3,14 {The Holy Spirit states is Jesus God}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word .
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
Matthew 1:23 (Matthew calls Jesus GOD}
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit calls Jesus God}
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
…..When did the First and the Last (GOD), the Beginning and the End (GOD), the Alpha and Omega (GOD) taste death?
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Matthew 26:53 (Jesus was obedient to what was prophesied)
Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?
But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?”…
Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father gives Jesus his authority)
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
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And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
In His Service,
@@canderssonswedican7486 Psalm 138:2 2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE ALL THY NAME.
The Word of God is The Glory from The Father unto this world. And this word Is Jesus amen.
my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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The Trinity is a Catholic construct, not found in the Bible. There is NO text anywhere that says God is made up of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Aint there. So those who actually care about a biblical foundation for their Faith should be NON-trinitarian.
We are a SOUL, that lives in this FLESH, which possesses a SPIRIT. There's the trinity. GOD THE FATHER ( soul), God the so, body), God the Holy spirit. Its everywhere in Gods words. You cannot see it from your lost perspective. Bye to your lies and false doctrine.
@@keithshortsellkiller2598 Sadly...That pleasing mental construct has nothing to do with the actual nature of God.
If the definition of God as a Trinity is"everywhere" in the Word of God (which is what counts) - then don't waste all our time simply saying so (how easy and lazy that appears!) - show us!
@@mdmorell how many times does God have to say anything for it to be true? Only once. We are told we are made in Gods image. We are told Adam was made a living soul.
Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 12:18
Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
Acts 2:31
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
1 Thessalonians 5:23
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
You do not need any more proof. You need a change of heart from the lies you have believed. If there was no God head, God would not have told us he is 3 persons in one God just like we are 3 persons in one being.
The very fact you do not even understand the beginning of knowledge tells me you do not know Jesus Christ. Wake up guy.
@Bo Stephens Jesus Christ is God Almighty because he is God in the flesh to learn the only thing that God on the throne could not know. Obedience.
Hebrews 5:8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
@@mdmorell sadly what you call a mental construct is factual basics taught throughout the entire words of God as I said.
Is not the very name of God a Tetragram? tet·ra·gram
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The world wants to lie and change it from YHVH to yhwh. Because YHVH =YESHUA HANASARI VEHEMALEK HIAHUDIM. JESUS OF NAZARETH KING OF THE JEWS.
Keep reading your false bible that was made from satan instead of Gods true words found in the KJV 1611. I'm sure you'll believe in many false doctrines doing so. You're worse than an atheist. Atleast they know the true words of God . They dont believe them. You on the other hand read from corrupted bibles trying to make God a liar. It's you who is the liar.
Great teaching on the trinity....you covered it really well, you really did.....the only problem is.....it's not in the Bible
The trinity is NOWHERE in scripture.
The thought that God is 3 persons, contradicts scripture.
We have one God, The Father-1 Corinthians 8:6
Tos in there! I read it. On all pagues. 66 books. The word trinity is in there so many times. But I just cant find it.
@@OurHumbleLife
Its everywhere in Scripture.
Understanding the Biblical view of the Godhead is simple.
God is one/one God -
Deuteronomy 6:4, Mark 12:29, Mark 12:32, Malachi 2:10, Romans 3:30, 1 Corinthians 8:4, 8:6, Galatians 3:20, Ephesians 4:6, 1 Timothy 2:5, James 2:19.
There is no God beside Him -
Deuteronomy 4:35, 2 Samuel 7:22, 1 Chronicles 17:20, Isaiah 43:10-11, 44:6, 44:8, 45:5-6, 45:21-22, Hosea 13:4.
The Father is a Spirit -
Genesis 1:2, Matthew 10:20, 12:28, *John 4:24*, Romans 8:9, 8:14, 1 Corinthians 2:10, 3:16, 12:13, 2 Corinthians 3:17, *Ephesians 4:4*
The Father is an invisible Spirit -
John 1:18, Colossians 1:15, 1 John 4:12, 4:20, 1 Timothy 1:17, 6:16.
God is an omnipresent Spirit (present everywhere) -
Isaiah 66:1, Psalm 139:7-10, Jeremiah 23:24.
The Father is an everlasting Spirit and cannot die -
Psalm 90:1-4, 1 Timothy 1:17, 6:16.
So when we think of the Father we should immediately think Spirit. And if there is only one Spirit just as Ephesians 4:4 states, then the Spirit of the Father and the Holy Spirit have to be the same Spirit consisting of more than one title. Since there is only one Spirit of God.
Jesus was born of a woman and was, therefore, flesh -
Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:18, 1:20, *John 3:6*.
The term "Son of God" or "Son of Man" refers to humanity or flesh.
The Father (Spirit) is eternal, and therefore cannot die, and the Son (flesh) was able to and did die.
This is where everything comes together in a beautiful way..
God (Spirit) was in Christ (flesh) -
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2 Corinthians 5:19 KJV
One more time.. God (Deity/Spirit) was in Christ (flesh/humanity) reconciling the world unto HIMSELF.. not unto themselves.
*Ephesians 4:4* states that there is one body and one Spirit.
Just as you have one body and one spirit, God did the same thing. He made Himself a body.
I wanna show you John 3:16 in this new light -
"For God (deity) so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son (humanity) that whosoever believeth in HIM should not perish but have everlasting life." - John 3:16
Whosoever believes in HIM not THEM.
Now look at 1st John 3:16 -
"Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren."
Isaiah 9:6, 12:2, 25:9, 43:11, 45:21-22, 54:5, John 8:24-27, 10:30, 12:45, 14:6-9.
Matthew 28:18-19, *Colossians 2:9*, Acts 2:38, 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16
For those of you that have not been baptized in the NAME (singular) of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost I urge you to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins as soon as possible. Obey Acts 2:38.
That's the Biblical Godhead. I took extra time to explain it but it is as simple as 5 Scriptures.
1. Deuteronomy 6:4 - One God.
2. John 4:24 - God is a Spirit.
3. Ephesians 4:4 - One body and one Spirit.
4. 2 Corinthians 5:19 - God in Christ.
5. 1 Timothy 3:16 - God was manifest in flesh.
An hour to teach Christians about the trinity
Red flag right there
No, I would disagree with you. This is a HUGE Green flag!
@@colerossi7420 that's why you are deluded
"The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us." (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22)
Check Alma 18:26-28. Your scriptures contradict each other. As the Book of Mormon supposedly contains the fulness of the Gospel, find me a place where it says that God the Father has flesh and bones. Joseph Smith's views of God changed and now you are following a false God, a false prophet and a false Christ that cannot save you brother. Turn to the real one, the true and living Jesus of the Bible
Bogdan Suciu *"Your scriptures contradict each other."*
Actually, they don't. Besides the fact that you consider the Book of Mormon to be a fairy tale, Joseph Smiths' view of God never changed. You are assuming that Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon, but he did not. He translated it from ancient records. Alma 18:26-28 reflects what Ammon thought God was like. Understandable, since all of the Book of Mormon peoples thought that God was a spirit.
Additionally, the Bible (KJV) is very much a part of official Mormon doctrine. The Christ of the Bible is the same Christ that Mormons believe in.
there are mad at what they did to the Torah. How can they do that
***** Your opinion is always your's to have, of course.
***** I do believe in the Holy Spirit. just saying
great stuff
Christians are divided in their beliefs
LOL.......He says, "If you have ever struggled with what the Bible teaches about the Trinity or how to explain the Trinity from Scripture..."
Then friend you are in GOOD COMPANY - because the Trinity itself is what they call the "central mystery" of the Catholic church - which is itself biblical "Babylon" or CONFUSION and is simply incomprehensible - because it is utterly UNBIBLICAL!
The Bible NOWHERE defines 1 God as 3 persons! That definition just does NOT exist!!
So....give up trying to teach or "explain the Trinity from Scripture" friend! Its pointless....
Amen!
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Jeff Durbin, I watch alot of your video's. I've seen the one's where you do street witnessing to Mormons, I've seen the ones at the abortion clinics, I've seen you do presuppositional apologetics and I listen to guys like James White, Sye, Jason Lisle and have heard Greg Bahnsen. I know that you know both James and Sye. I've enjoyed listening to all of you. I will say though that it saddens me that you occasionally cuss in public while you are engaging people. I've heard you on three separate occasions use bad language and it would be so much appreciated if you we're even yet more self controlled in using that kind of language on social media. I'd love to continue listening to you on the subjects that I've mentioned and I have learned some good info from you, but ot would be more honorable if you are willing to tame your tongue in public..thank you.
I would agree 100% however, as we are all imperfect and need salvation we will and do slip up from time to time. I would imagine it's NOT the norm. Only Jesus Christ was capable of perfect love. Pray for him :)
@@rogerg0834 but for those who are already saved all they need to do is be obedient to Christ..slipping up is one thing but he clearly repeats the words that these people are saying, so that is not a slip up, that is intentionally reaping what they say.
@@rogerg0834 But, he is a professed minister of God. And as such a double responsibility rests upon him to guard the things he says. How was it that Peter denied Jesus?
Jas 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
Jas 3:13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
@@mdmorell
Says the Arian Watchowerite whose Organisation hasnt got a scholar between them, never has, currently doesnt and never will....!
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I am becoming so discouraged in my faith. Trinity, oneness, Jesus being only the son of God, the scriptures bk up all of these and more interpretations and then you have each belief stating there are no contradictions! HELP!
Who raised Jesus from the Dead?
Galatians 1:1 {Father raised Jesus from dead}
Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;
John 2:19-21 {Jesus raised himself from dead}
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body.
Matthew 26:61
and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’”
Romans 8:11 {Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead}
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that
raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Acts 3:26 {God raised Son from the dead}
Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in
turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
Hebrews 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that
great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
So who raised Jesus from the dead?
I remember the trinity and hearing the idea for the first time and I always thought it was man made. And yes the word is man made which is why I dont use the word. But there is a full understanding of This scripture "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." And It is Fully biblical That Jesus name is "The Word of God" its His most important name. The Word was Made Flesh johnch1:14
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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If you could talk with one would you and why ? To better understand the mind set in which one has ? To the point why would like or need to know what it is to be a trinity being ?
I have a question, I believe all of the word of God I believe in this sermon , I’m just wondering though. When we get to heaven , will we see the father and the son and the Holy Spirit all at the same time but be able to distinct one another ??
Short answer: we don’t know. Hebrews says that Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father. Scripture also says that no one can look upon the Father and live. John Calvin said something very wise: “When Scripture makes the end of speaking, we must make an end of speaking.” There is enough that HAS been revealed to us to last a lifetime. We’ll find out all the mysteries in the end.
1Corinthians 13:10--12 is the Bible answer.
Even scientists admit that man can only see 4% of what the universe is all about.
3 persons, co-existent, co-equal, co-eternal....where does the bible say that?Help me understand the trinity.....well, you can't really understand the trinity.
Billy A
don't worry about the trinity. focus on Jesus only and praise the father. it's very confusing but God will honour your heart.
People used to think that god was a mystery. They were told to be satisfied with not understanding. They were called the dark ages. Some people are still okay with that. Better to keep asking questions than settle on something that looks made up.
Billy, did you not watch the video..? Lol
Michale Heiser has videos where he shows the belief in the triune Godhead in the Old Testament. There’s no way so many devout Jews would worship Jesus as God if the concept wasn’t already in their beliefs
1 John 5:7
Heb 1:8 Theos O God G2316 Trinitarians claim God the Father is calling Jesus God Heb 1:8 is a quotation of Psalm 45:6 . the above translation of Heb 1:8 is another example of extreme translation bias. Here they outrageously try to claim that God is addressing Jesus as "God" . Their translation is not the most natural reading of the original Greek text and it crudely violates the context in order to promote Trinitarian doctrine. Trinitarian Greek scholars themselves openly admit the Greek grammar does allow for a different translation . therefore the proper translation of this passage is not a Greek grammar question but a question of theological interpretation in order to determine which one is correct for example the R.S.V a Trinitarian version translates the original passage quoted here as ,Your divine throne endures for ever and ever. Psalm 45:6 this demonstrates Trinitarian Greek scholars admitted a different translation is just as accurate on grammatical grounds alone. However most Trinitarian academics are so eager to look for reasons why they can justify the preferred Trinitarian translation that they fail to see the obvious meaning intended in this passage as well as the overall context of Hebrews chapter one. The main intention of this passage is to indicate and describe the authority of Jesus that resulted due to his resurrection glory. The Greek text literally reads the throne of you the god to the age of the age". The writer of Hebrews is simply saying that Jesus is exalted to the throne of God in heaven and as such he is not trying to demonstrate that Jesus is God but that Jesus has ascended to the throne of God and is therefore above the angels with all authority. God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ Acts 2:36) All authority in Heaven and earth has been given to me Matt 28:18.) 1 Peter 3;21-22 see Heb 4:14. He is Lord see 1 Chronicles 29:20,23 1Kings Chapter one)This is common in the O.T the same thing is occurring here in Hebrews chapter one see Acts 2:34-36.
Mr Hollywood your comment was pointless... Hebrews 1 teaches clearly that Jesus is God
Our problem is we have no concept of who or what God is.
By definition God means a being that is all present, all powerful, all knowing, So because our limited human mind can’t understand that God can appear as whatever he wants to or be four or five or three entities just means our level of understanding is weak. This God who created man from the dust of the earth without using a women’s womb, needs us to explain how he begat Jesus in a woman's womb with no human sperm. Perhaps we should ask this being to expand our understanding, did we not read that God spoke and the world came into existence?
Is the God of the Israelite's Omnipotence - YES
Is the God of the Israelite's Omnipresence - YES
Is the God of the Israelite's Omniscience - YES
What this means If GOD wants to be anything or anyone he can period!
So can GOD appear as he wants? - YES
If he wants to appear as three figures and decides to sacrifice himself as one of those figures for his creation guess what, he can!
If he wants to appear as a human he can.
If we as a human can’t comprehend it well is that GODS fault? Perhaps we should ask him to give us a higher understanding.
Would we sacrifice ourselves for our children? God is pure love we humans aren't. So who would have a greater propensity to sacrifice themselves for another you or GOD?
And who are we to question why God chooses to do what he does? if he chooses to come down and dwell with his creation and determines that only he, is holy enough to pay for our sins well then so be it.
WHAT arrogance some people have, you know what God can and cannot do, or be or not be; So God who is pure love cannot sacrifice himself? Would you die for your child
So God is not very smart he needs us humans to tell him who he is to be. Do you hear that God we / us humans will define who or what you are and how you can manifest yourself.
Now I am speaking of the GOD of the bible not the book of Mormon or the Koran, or any other cult. So if the bible states that Jesus is God well then, he is to us who try to follow that set of oracles which by the way were given only to the Jews.
I don't know what you follow or believe so don't tell me what "your" God can or cannot do or be I don't care, and definitely don't tell me what MY GOD can or cannot be because I have his instruction manual.
I assume I am to follow what the Holy Spirit has written over what some carbon unit thinks.
The Father states there is only one God he knows of no other, he is God alone, then he calls The Son, God and attributes the same attributes to him as he has, the apostles call the Son God, the Son himself calls himself God, and who penned all this?, why the Holy Spirit did and Jesus tells us the spirit of truth will make it known to you. If you cannot understand this either you are not very smart or you have been deceived. The first step in realizing you have been deceived is to acknowledge you have been deceived.
We as a limited pile of cells trapped in a decaying carbon body cannot assert anything beyond what you can see, feel or touch. What arrogance by such limited carbon life forms, do you think a snail can process it surrounding as a bird can? Or the bird process it’s surrounding as a dog? How about a monkey can he out think the latter? Us human’s. Each one of these creatures cannot comprehend what the larger and higher capacity brain of a more developed creature can. We are not biologically capable of understanding a higher power. Does an ant know I exist? Is it aware of my presence? What happens when I start to push it with my finger it runs away why? Because it knows there is something there. I have to reveal myself to it for it to know I am here. Likewise a higher intelligence would have to reveal itself to us.
It is Gods prerogative to be whoever he wants to be or how he represents himself he does not need you or me to define him or his limits nor to tell him how he is to reveal himself to us.
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In His service,
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Not sure why people don't get the Trinity. There are so many scriptures covering this fact. To anybody who doesn't believe in the Trinity, then can you explain the clear reading of John 1:1 for starters? ".....and the Word was God." Big W and a big G. Why make this difficult?
Brother Derek cause its stupid and dumb. It makes no sense at all. Tos pagan from, Egypt and Babylon. You nor Jeff, can explain it. Because three is none.
People don't get it because it is the mystery of the Antichrist - which the Antichrist is only too fond of calling its "Central Doctrine." It is a pagan doctrine fostered and publicized by the Roman Catholic church from the very beginning - and we were forewarned of its insinuation into the Christian faith by the likes of Jude in his letter verse 4. "For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ."
@@mdmorell you watch to many CZcams documentaries so easy to kurpt little brains.the pagans used it cause there is no other way to explain all 3 with out it being 1.
@@j.wat.3437 i think the words jeff used was to big for ur head. Why didnt understand it get ur dictionary OUT.
MR WEATHERS your sarcastic and disrespectful language would be better used in a schoolyard. Why do you have to use it here? Can you possibly profess to be a Christian? Aren't you just exhibiting your own "little brain" by doing so? The basic fact which you nor anyone else can gainsay is this: The Roman Catholic institution installed the doctrine of the Trinity into "the church" shortly before, during and after the Council of Nicea 325 AD. Before this time the Apostolic church had no such institution, as evidenced by the lack of the word for Trinity and subsequent definition in the New Testament. Please note that the New Testament words used in translating "Godhead" NOWHERE refer to a defined Trinity. There is also NOWHERE in the Bible that even the concept of 3 individuals composing 1 God exists. Are you able to study this for yourself?
If you CAN specifically prove this PLEASE show it to me asap because I have been actively looking for over 3 years now. So -- I will say with confidence that you cannot point to any contextual verses that so define God.
John 14:8-10 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet HAST THOU NOT KNOWN ME, Philip? he that hath seen me hath SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and THE FATHER IN ME? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but THE FATHER THAT DWELLETH IN ME, he doeth the works. ISAIAH 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.ISAIAH 42:13 The LORD shall go forth AS A MIGHTY MAN, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies. JOHN 10:30 I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. (The Bible does NOT SAY that there are THREE DISTINCT PERSONS WHO ARE GOD) 1 TIMOTHY 3:16 GOD BECAME FLESH....HEBREWS 1:3, COLOSSIANS 1:15 JESUS IS NOT ANOTHER PERSON. HE IS THE IMAGE OF GOD IN THE FLESH. GOD IS A SPIRIT WHO DWELLS IN THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD WHICH IS HIS VESSEL WHICH ALLOWED THIS SAME GOD TO DWELL WITH US.
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*"Help me understand the Trinity: Jeff Durbin on the Trinity"*
How can you understand something that doesn't even exist? There is no such thing as a "trinity". There is such a thing as the "Godhead" however. And that concept _is_ biblical.
Actually,
there is no such thing as the godhead either.
If you research this subject, you will find that a little over 700 years ago, Wycliffe took the biblical word, "godhood" and changed it to "godhede", hence "godhead".
God is ONE.
He is The Father, as scripture tells us, and he has a SON, whom he sent to be our Messiah.
Blessings
In the name of the father Melchizedek.
In the name of the son Immanuel.
In the name of the holy spirit Daniel the prophet.
Sir how can you teach God is a Trinity(Three) quoting verses in Isaiah saying God but “I” and “ME” is also in the context of identifying Who God is? And the thing is you are saying it and don’t realize the verses your reading identify God as one singular and not one as a unity
Galatians 1:1 {Father raised Jesus from dead}
Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;
John 2:19-21 {Jesus raised himself from dead}
Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body.
Matthew 26:61
and declared, “This fellow said, ‘I am able to destroy the temple of God and rebuild it in three days.’”
Romans 8:11 {Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead}
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that
raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Acts 3:26 {God raised Son from the dead}
Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in
turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
Hebrews 13:20
Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that
great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
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I just want to thank you so much for those verses pointing out how The Father, Jesus himself, and the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead! Amazing point! I have never heard or realized that!! Thank you 🙏🏻
"...O people of the Book, let us come to a common understanding between us and between you; that 1) we serve none except God, and 2) that we do not set up anything with Him, and 3) that none of us takes each other as patrons besides God...." (Qur'an 3:64)
wrong my friend. you follow the wrong genetic line of the house of isreal. come back into the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob..who sent the messiah..the only messiah who ever has or will come...Jesus Christ. who paid for Your sins on the cross so you can be made righteous to the Heavenly Father of the Holy Trinity and not go to Hell because your sins have not been forgiven....
The father Melchizedek
The son Immanuel.
The Holy Spirit Daniel the prophet.
Who cares what the Quran says it disagrees with The Word Of God, a false religion which does not redeem.
Trinity the big lie . Do you no they us cute sings to make this point. I have years in this the bible is the word. Get the Torah it is the same as the time when Jesus was in the world ACTS 2:36 also The K.J.V is not the same as the Torah as the N.I.V is not the K.J.V in a short time.
Jeff Durbin starts out rather odd, praying to the Father. You see, according to the trinity teaching, God consists of three co-equal, co-eternal persons, namely, the Father, Son, and holy spirit. So, if it takes three persons to make up one God, why is Jeff Durbin only praying to one of the three persons that make up God? Why not pray to all three persons instead of just one? Doesn't this mean that Jeff Durbin is praying to a "piece" of God, not the entire God? Just asking.
Now, let's see by the scriptures that Jeff Durbin uses if God really is "a unity of three [persons]," which is what the word "trinity" means.
The first set of verses that Jeff Durbin uses is John @-24, which says: "Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again." Does these verses say or imply that God is tri-personal? Answer: NO, they don't. However, verse 23 clearly shows that God is not a trinity. How's that? Well, according to the trinity doctrine, three persons are worshiped as the same "one God. As it says: "We worship one God in trinity." But, who did Jesus tell his followers to worship? As John @ says: "...the true worshipers will worship the Father." Even Jesus worshiped the Father along with his fellow Jewish countrymen. As he said to the Samaritan woman: "You worship what you do not know; WE worship what WE do know, for salvation is from the Jews." (John @) So, Jeff Durbin is so ignorant that he inadvertently read a series of scriptures that actually _disproved_ the trinity doctrine that says the Father, Son, and holy spirit are worshiped as "one God."
Absolutely you are correct!,that is why trinity is nonsesnse and no logic doctrine..they say trinity is 3 persons in 1 God.if they are 3 persons i just notice why every time they pray they dont mention about the HS?.eveytime Jesus and his apostle talks about the 1 true God HS is always missing,not even mention.that is very unfair for the HS if its true that He is the 3rd person God in the trnity..i think it is more correct to say "There is 3 person in one trinity not 1 God,just like in 1 family with 3 members its like"there are 3 persons in 1 family not 3 persons in 1 human.their definition of the word God is like a gruop or committee like 1 family or 1 baranggay or 1 Goverment.trinitarians says God is a being, (divne being)a nature just like in humans we are human being.1 what in 3 who?eg.in 1 family there is father,mother and son.what is my faher?he is a human being.who is my father.my father is Jose.what is my mother? My mother is also humanbeing,who is my mother?my mother is Maria,and also the son is humanbeing who is the son?the son is Jesus.the question now is how many humanbeings are there in 1 family?.they are 3 humanbeing with the same being.just like in trinity.they are 3 persons Gods with same being God.
This guy is talking too much,but even 1 verse he cant show that the father.son,and holy spirit is the 1 true God.all he can do is assume
@@juanitobarcelona7050 "They say trinity is 3 persons in 1 God."
Actually, they say there are three _Gods_ in one God. As the Catholic Athanasian Cred says:
1. "The Father is God." [God #1]
2. "The Son is God." [God #2]
3. "The holy spirit is God." [God #3]
4. "[The Father, Son, and holy spirit] are one God."
So, according to trinitarian doctrine, there are three Gods [not three persons] in one God. However, this isn't trinitarianism; it's tritheism, which is the belief that there are three Gods in one God.
@@cbooth151 you are correct bro.you talk with sense.trinity is nonsense and funny.not only that, if God is trinity(3 persons) why everytime God speaks He always use singular pronoun like I,ME ,MYSELF ,ALONE,if God is 3 equally divine persons Gods,They shoul use plural pronoun like WE or US because God knows correct grammar.In Genesis God saya "let us created man"its clear there there is someone with him thats why he use the word US,but the question is how many person is speaking not how many person is with him.still 1 person is speaking there
@@juanitobarcelona7050 "They should use plural pronoun like WE or US because God knows correct grammar.In Genesis God saya "let us created man"its clear there there is someone with him thats why he use the word US,but the question is how many person is speaking not how many person is with him."
You are so right. In English, there are some words that carry a specific number. For instance...
1. a triangle has THREE angles..
2. a tricycle has THREE wheels.
3. A tripod has THREE feet.
4. A trident has THREE prongs.
5. A triceratops is a dinosaur that has THREE horns.
Now, does the pronoun "us" carry a specific number? No, it doesn't. So, depending on context, "us" could mean "us two, "us twenty-two," or "us two hundred and twenty-two." At Gen. 1:26, where does the context of the verse say or suggest "us" has to be "us THREE"? Answer: it doesn't. And another, as you said, the word "us" includes the one speaking and at least one other person. God by himself is not an "us." On the other hand, God _and_ at least one other person _can_ be an "us" and an "our" at Gen. 1:26.
Trinitarians are desperate to prove the Bible supports the trinity. But, since they know they can't prove it, they switch to "Plan B" by saying Jesus is God all by himself. And some of the scriptures they us include John 1:1; John 8:58; and John 20:28.
So, if you were to ask a trinitarian who God is on two different occasions, he is likely to give you two different answers.
Jesus Christ has a father... He taught us to pray to the Father
YES & HE CLEARLY SAID THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD JOHN 17;3 PLUS JOHN 4:23-26 22 Ye worship that which ye know not: we worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall Worship the FATHER in spirit and truth: [a]for such doth the Father seek to be his worshippers. 24 [b]God is a SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth. 25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh (he that is called Christ): when he is come, he will declare unto us all things. 26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. (NOTICE JESUS NEVER SAID HE WAS PART OF GOD OR TO WORSHIP HIM EVER EVEN AFTER HE RESURRECTED THE APOSTLES Knowledge Jesus to be the Servant & son of God 1 Peter 1:3 Praise be to the GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ!
Philippians 2:6
Hebrews 1:6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: Let all the angels of God worship him.
Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son He says: Your throne O God is forever and ever.
And The Word of God before He was made Flesh, is the Son of God. The Living Word of God IS the Son and The Son Lives By the Father and The Father by the Son, through The Holy spirit which is graciously given to Those who hear the word and understand it.
So I made this explanation through the scriptures old testament and the words of Jesus.
my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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@@bretbic6418 When explaining a scripture as philipians 2:6, although it is true, and perfect, and beautiful, The nerw testament letters of the apostles do not hit the thershold of authority to other false religions. So I made this explanation through the scriptures old testament and the words of Jesus.
my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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Remember when Jesus tells Philip in the book of John "whoever has seen me, has seen the father." Its because there is 1 God.. 3 different "dimensions" if you will :)
I understand the Trinity, and I'm not saying that I don't believe the Trinity, but what I don't understand is, if God is all things, he is not limited to be three things. When Abraham was going to kill his son the Angel of the Lord appeared and offered a sacrifice. The Angel of the Lord. If one is of something, it is part of that thing. So the Angel was God or a form of God. Here we see a four entity of God, which then we would not have a Trinity, but instead quadrality, which is 4 things in 1.
Water is liquid, which can be a solid block of ice and can also be visible steam. Moisture (water) is in the air, which is not visible. So we are surrounded and living within water. This example is something we can understand to help others understand the Trinity. God, ice, turned into Jesus, water, which died and rose to Heaven like steam and surrounds us as the Holy Spirit, which is not visible. Yet without the Holy Spirit, moisture, we are but dry dust without life.
Jesus is NOT God and Christians go on saying that he is, then something very profound is lost in theology. To say that God died on the cross is to miss the suffering love the Father had for his tortured Son agonizing on the cross. It would have been easier for God to offer up himself than to offer up his only Son, Jesus.
I believe the Abraham and Isaac story is in the Bible for a reason. God wanted to test Abraham to see if his faith was strong enough to obey him even if it meant giving up his son, Isaac, as a sacrifice on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem. The story reveals the anguish of a dedicated father having to choose between his son or God. It was a hard choice. Abraham was not asked to sacrifice himself! His choice would be harder than self-sacrifice! God never intended to let Abraham go through with it. It was a test of love as well as of faith. At the last moment God provided a ram for sacrifice in place of Abraham’s son. Abraham was to call that place on Mount Moriah “THE LORD WILL PROVIDE.”
So Abraham called the name of the place “The Lord will provide” as it is said to this day, “On the Mount of the Lord it shall be provided” (Gen 22:14)
What God did not require of Abraham, He would fulfill in the same place at a later time in history, to show his love for the world by giving up his beloved Son, Jesus, to die on the cross for the salvation of a sinful world: “In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only son into the world” (1 Jn 4:9). Rather than God giving up himself to death, the heavenly Father gave up his Son to die on the cross. God required more of himself than He required of Abraham.
So God gone make someone else to be worshipped---
God forbid...
I tell you the truth-worship God only in Jesus name.
Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father gives Jesus his authority)
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
And you will worship him by the Fathers decree.
I have a question to mr Durbin..If God(father Yahweh/Yehovah) is 3 persons..whos God in the trinty speak iin Isa.44:24? It is very clear there that the God who speaks there is only 1 person,because hen said "I,ALONE"..Iif they are 3 speaking at the same time they should use "WE or US..can you pls explain it clearly without assuming?
The one speaking there is the Triune God.. If one Person speaks then it is God Who speaks...
@@ChiSoter_2024 if the triune Gods Speaks,Father, Son ,and Holy spririt, then they should say "We, or US not I Am and alone,because God knows correct grammar.. trjnitv is a invented pagan doctrine.
@@juanitobarcelona7050
He did say "us" and "our"..
So whats the matter if God will use singular pronouns? Of course He would use that because theres no other Gods but Him alone the God of Israel...
@@ChiSoter_2024 nonsesnse
@@juanitobarcelona7050
Only for you...
God is one person.His name is Lord Jesus Christ
47:58 there is nowhere in the Bible that ever says that Jesus is almighty. Jesus cannot be almighty, Jesus worships someone else,his father. Jesus is called a mighty god in Isaiah 9:6. But only Jehovah is called almighty.
1jesus x 1jesus x 1jesus = 1jesus ( correct answer)
1Jesus x 1father x 1holy ghost = 3 GODS
so Jesus is wife or husband ? father son and holy spirit is 3 different person, stop making fool to yourself.
FamyHenna be careful being so arrogant to tell God what he can be.
Amen Amen. A believer can rejoice at this comment, yet a nonbeliever cannot and would find it unnatractive to the Church.
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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This sound like you are speaking on polytheism if you believe there will be 3 different beings with different minds that have god like powers
Phillippians 2:6-11: who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Isaiah 9:6: For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
So many non-Trinitarians commenting here. Do not assume our doctrine is Catholic. Study the church fathers. Read the Scripture. The Triune God has been a necessary point of Christian doctrine from the very beginning.
+The Essene Way I agree, we should look at your scriptures to see if these prophecies were fulfilled through Yeshua, but we should look at what people believed about these prophecies at or around the time of Jesus. In this case it is unequivocally Messianic. Targum Isaiah says, "The prophet saith to the house of David, A child has been born to us, a son has been given to us; and He has taken the law upon Himself to keep it, and His name had been called from of old, Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, He Who Lives Forever, The Anointed One (or Messiah), in whose days peace shall increase upon us.” So clearly they were looking forward to it. In fact, the Babylonian Talmud reiterates this, which came after Yeshua. Finally, Hezekiah does not mean "Mighty God," and I would think it would be blasphemy to be referred to as such. Rather, it means "Yah has strengthened." Note the verb chezek, or "strengthen." The word in Isaiah 6:9 is El Gibbor, which literally does mean Mighty God. Peace.
***** Context context context. We can't cherry pick apparently contradictory passages without understanding what the intent of what Paul was saying was, or the overarching context of their message.
Christ brought peace with God, and division among men. (Romans 5:1, Matthew 10:34-39)
And yes, Christ, rather than abolishing the law, fulfilled it. Paul's "abolition," was only of the Law of commandments contained in ordinances (sacrifices). And these were not abolished in the arbitrary sense to which Jesus was referring, but rather were fulfilled by Christ's atoning death on the cross. Rather than getting rid of them, he simply made the ordinances unnecessary by carrying out a perfect, eternal sacrificial ordinance himself. So no, Christ did not abolish the law, but rather fulfilled it. (Matthew 5:17-20, Ephesians 2:14-15)
I get a sense of resentment in you. Perhaps you feel us Gentiles have taken your God and thrown you Jews to the curb. And some so-called "Christians" have, shame on them. That is not Christianity. Rather, us Gentiles are forever indebted to you Jews, for your God, the true God, became one of your very own people and sacrificed Himself, becoming an eternal High Priest, so that both Jews and Gentiles alike could have peace with Him. Remember, the first Christians were Jews :) Peace, friend.
+The Essene Way
I don't see how.
Allow me to create a scenario.
Let's say I told you that God came down to earth in the form of a man and sat down to eat with one of his followers.
I want to know, is that blasphemous?
I really just can't address everything you've just said, time won't allow, so you'll have to just accept my apology on that. Though I would encourage you to look closely at context, and many of these things you will find are answered well. A couple things of extreme importance that I feel I should address however.
First, when Christ said you have to hate your mother and father to follow him, well, I think your second citation refuted your first one. "Loved more," is an aspect of what he intended to say, and I think you will find such a stickler for the commandments would never and didn't ever encourage a person to dishonor their parents. However, I agree there is more to it. If you were called by the Lord to leave your pagan household, abandon your parents, and, for lack of better words, hate them and all that they stand for in order to follow the one true God, I think, or at least hope, you would.
Second, I see no reason why Jesus could recite the Shema and not be God. "The Lord our God is one," as in, echad. It should me noted that echad is used in describing husband and wife as one flesh. Yet you would not say that they are literally one flesh, but rather come together as one unit. A strict rendering of echad for the sole purpose of not allowing a Trinity is simply inconsistent, as we do not believe their are three Gods, but three persons unified as one God. Also, with regard to saying Jesus didn't know something, I was surprised you didn't go to the passage where Christ said he didn't know the day of the Lord. Regardless, Christ in the flesh can in fact be unaware of something despite his place in the Godhead being equally omniscient. It's not something I totally understand, but I won't put God in a box and say he can't do that.
Finally, and the most important thing, your idea that God cannot be a man is unfounded because the Torah itself disproves your statement. One example is in Genesis 18. God appears as three men before Abraham. Abraham bows down and worships the men, and they sit down and eat food together. I just want to state though, and I'm sure you know this about us Christians, that when we say God became a man, we don't mean that he lost any of his Godhood. Rather, he took on a human tabernacle with a human body and a human soul, while still retaining, in harmony with this humanness, all the fullness of the Godhead. So he has two natures, that of God and that of man. He was man enough to hunger, be tempted, and die, yet he was God enough to perform miracles, never sin, and raise from the dead. Think of it as God dwelling in the Tabernacle in the Torah, because the New Testament parallels those two things heavily. If the Tabernacle were burnt to the ground, would God be dead? Of course not. I will confess, I do not understand this doctrine that we call the hypostatic union, but his resurrection and the testimony of the whole of Scripture simply force me to believe its truth. God bless, friend.
Winston Smith you are so right the Triune of Gods. From the beginning of false worship. Unlike Moses said hear oh Israel Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. And Jesus said the same thing when he was on the Earth. Never said the Jehovah our God is three Jehovah or he never said I am Jehovah. But Jesus did say of his father that he is the only true God. Jesus refer to himself as the son.
Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
John 17:3 that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.
John 20:17 Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.
In Jesus christ the fullness of the Diety lives in bodily form, Jesus Christ the one who came by water (eternal spirit)and blood (flesh),and the farther the spirit of truth (divine conscience/wisdom),for the three that testify, and the three are in agreement, Jesus Christ is the head over every power and authority, the one and only true living God who became flesh and walked with man.
This is a good sermon however the "trinity" is based solely in Greek philosophy. The early church fathers did an excellent job guarding against Gnostic theology however it does ignore that Jesus said "If you have seen me you have seen the Father" and the Apostle Paul's claim that the Spirit is the Spirit of Jesus Christ in Phillipians.
True, Jesus made it very clear that his Father, ALONE, is The only true God.
John 17:3
That doesn’t mean Jesus is God. He’s just a representation of the invisible father
CASE IN POINT FOR BIBLE BELIEVERS: The Prophet Moses was considered a G_d before the Pharaoh. Does that mean that he is or was G_d the Creator? Absolutely NOT! likewise with the Messiah when he came to this earth with a different purpose..... if he was called G_d by those who understood that the all Patriarchs were called “gods” or Elohim like Phillip told the Messiah? So, what's the difference??? The big difference is that even the Messiah himself knew that he wasn't the Creator Almighty being. That title and the exclusive worship belongs only to His father and the father only. Luke 4:8 This concept confused so many people that only understood "idolatry" distorting the Scriptures. Worshiping so called "Jesus" is considered idolatry by definition and agaisnt the Commandment of the Eloyim. Repent wicked generation! turn away from idolatry. " The LORD answered Moses, "See I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and Aaron your brother will be your prophet." Exodus 7:1 Psalms 82:1-6 The Messiah called his father the "true God" not him. John 17:3 The Messiah was prophesied to be like Moses as a prophet and Savior like Moses, the only big difference is that the Messiah will deliver his people from eternal damnation and Moses delivered his people from idolatry and slavery. Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 So if Moses was considered a G_d before the Pharaoh, why couldn't the Messiah be considered a G-d before kings? Once again, this didn't make Moses or the Messiah the Almighty Elohym to receive worship in any way, shape or form. This act will be considered idolatry for lack of knowledge or ignorance. But ignorance doesn't justify sin of idolatry. The doctrine of the trinity or triune godhead was originated from the Vatican in 325AD first council of Nicea. The Romans were idolaters and worship more than one god and integrated their beliefs into Christianity.They were pagans. Do you follow their example?? Christ taught his disciples to worship only his Father as their God. John 20:17 Do you follow Christ's teachings or the Roman Catholic Church teachings as the originator of the doctrine saying that you should worship Jesus?
Actually, neither the word nor the concept of Trinity is in the Bible. The concept was slowly evolved by early Church fathers from Modalism to Subordination to Trinity. It was finally enacted in Christian Faith in 381 CE. This is because some of the early Church Fathers did not understand the idioms or the language used in Aramaic in the time of Jesus (Peace be upon him). This concept of deification of Jesus (Peace be upon him) started very early - generation right after Polycarp. On the Day of Judgement, the early Church Fathers will not come to rescue. God gave us brain to think, ponder and find out the truth. God sent thousands of Prophets and Messengers and they all taught the mankind that God is One and Only One.
There is only One God not three in One.
Exodus 20:1-3
And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me.
Deuteronomy 5:7
You shall have no other gods before Me.
Luke 4:8
Jesus answered, It is written: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.
(John 17:3)
"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."
(John: 20:17)
Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
Quran 20:14
Indeed, I am Allah. There is no other god except Me. So, worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.
Qur'an 21:92
"...I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other)..."
Qur'an 2:163
"And your Allah is One Allah: There is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful."
Quran: (5:73)
They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
Quran: (5:72)
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.
Quran 20: 14
Indeed, I am Allah. There is no other god except Me. So, worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.
Quran 21:25
And We sent not before you (O Muhammad) any messenger except that We revealed to him that, "There is no deity except Me, so worship Me."
God revealed the following verse in regard to the factions of Christians who fought each other of having differing views after Jesus and the Disciples left the earth And God knows best.
Quran (2:253)
Of those messengers, some of whom We have caused to excel others, and of whom there are some unto whom Allah spake, while some of them He exalted (above others) in degree; and We gave Jesus, son of Mary, clear proofs (of Allah's Sovereignty) and We supported him with the holy Spirit. And if Allah had so wiled it, those who followed after them would not have fought one with another after the clear proofs had come unto them. But they differed, some of them believing and some disbelieving. And if Allah had so willed it, they would not have fought one with another; but Allah doeth what He will.
Nothing the quran says matters.
Colossians 2:9 For in him all fullness of deity dwells bodily the Trinitarian claim this verse indicates that "Jesus is God" because it says all the fullness of deity dwells in him bodily . The facts show Paul is referring to Jesus Christ's glorified state and how God dwells in the risen Jesus bodily. The Problems with the claim Translations. (1)for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead corporeally (Douay Rheims) for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily A.S.V for in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily K.J.V and more if you look them up . Theotes older translations well translate the Greek word theotes as Godhead. For some unknown reason, many Trinitarian laypeople think this particular word implies the notion of a three person God . This word simply meant God-HOOD and was not a particular word used for the notion of a three person being. in modern English. we would express the same idea by saying something like God-ness or deity in a qualitative sense. here Paul is saying that the essence of Jesus Christ's God dwells in the risen Jesus bodily. The word theotes is not referring to Who but what . Trinitarian recklessly presume this verse can be applied to Jesus in the days of his flesh HEB 5:5 and they do this routinely even though Paul says we no longer know Christ according to the Flesh 2 Cor 5:16 But the context shows beyond any doubt that Paul is obviously referring to the risen Christ COLOSSIANS 1:19 Paul is referring to the same thing where he says in him all the fullness was pleased to dwell . in context, it is clear that he is referring to the glorified Christ, the firstborn of the dead. Colo 2:10 and Eph 3:19 The very next verse indicates that Colo were mode to have the fullness of deity dwell in them. We would obviously not suppose they are God . And again at Eph 3:19 Paul says, that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God We wouldn't suppose this means believes are God.
1 JOHN 4 : 15 THAT'S ALL A BELIEVER NEEDS !!!! NOT A TRINITY...
Amen Amen. A believer can rejoice at this comment, yet a nonbeliever cannot and would find it unnatractive to our Church.
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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I dont know if the world "Gods" with an s even existed back then for fear of being destroyed right on the spot.
Sorry, Jesus isn’t God. He called our God and Father his God and Father at John 20:17.
Is that the only thing Jesus said? You're going to risk your soul on one verse from the Bible, and not bother listening to anything else Jesus said?
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Here’s another great scripture.
1 Corinthians 15:27,28
27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.”
NWT
“For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.”
King James
Still trying to understand the trinity? Here is what your cult teaches about the trinity: Not one incomprehensible, but three incomprehensibles; without body, parts, or passions.
Your cult says the trinity is incomprehensible.
God the Father is not incomprehensible. Doctrine and Covenants 130:22 The Father hath a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's.
You sound like a jehovah witness, keep queit.
I'm trying to watch but also trying to figure out what's on your shirt.
I have the attention span of a gold fish
It's a trinity shirt. It has "God" in the center, and three circled corners. One circle says "Father", one says "Son", and the other says "Holy Spirit".
So God has know one in his throne there know 24 elders. I like the way you put what you like . just saying
His throne in the center, with 24 seats around and 24 elders
Picture this in your mind. A clock, the center, where the hands meat.
12 hours AM
12 hours PM
24 hours
12 elder male
12 elder female
12 month male
12 month female
It's time. Father time.
Philippians 2:6?
When explaining a scripture as philipians 2:6, although it is true, and perfect, and beautiful, The nerw testament letters of the apostles do not hit the thershold of authority to other false religions. So I made this explanation through the scriptures old testament and the words of Jesus.
my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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The Trinitarian Doctrine Totally denies the Testimony of JESUS CHRIST AND GOD ...Jesus calls God the only TRUE GOD. John 17:3 , 1 John 5:9-10 , john 20:31, GOD calls Jesus his son. Matthew 16:16-17 , Matthew 3:17...
I love how the only way you can explain the trinity is to hand pick a few versus that make them kinda sound like they are the same person, and then add in an hour of YOUR commentary to create a made up trinity. It’s so extrabiblical and conjured up by man its insane to me. Honestly. You cannot read the Bible alone and come up with this. It’s a belief that you have to hear outside the Bible and then apply it to the Bible to meet those beliefs in verses here and there.
Hello
Jesus is the Messiah
The Son of God
The Son of David
The Son of man
The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
The man God will judge the world through
The man God raised from the dead
Jesus has a God
There is no triune god in scripture
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
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this man is god i understand now
Silly trinitarians think God are triplets.
The Holy Scriptures teach God is One.
If Jesus is the LORD oF hosts then Jesus is God:
Isaiah 47:4 (KJV) [As for] our redeemer, the LORD of hosts [is] his name, the Holy One of Israel.
Psalms 24:10 (KJV) Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he [is] the King of glory. Selah.
Psalms 84:3 (KJV) Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, [even] thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God.
Isaiah 54:5 (KJV) For thy Maker [is] thine husband; the LORD of hosts [is] his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Watch my new video, "the Trinity Debate is Over!"
can we just get to the point? educate me on the trinity~
hi i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible. I believe you will be blessed and have revelation. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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2000 years gone by and you guys are still trying to work out the Trinity??????
OMG, What has the Holy Spirit being doing all these years if it can't even get you guys over the first hurdle!!!!
Madi Lee
Not really
No one knows because the holy spirit will come at the end times.
A person could spend an eternity studying and still not understand God. What makes you think you've got God figured out completely? You don't. You couldn't begin to even comprehend the Nature of God and His being. Especially if you don't know Jesus, and have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside.
@@michaelharrington75
Well if that's the case I can be forgiven for not believing in your God. Thank you
@@sadikmeah4057 That's not how it works.
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The trinity is false doctrine
Gary,
a father cannot be 3 persons.
Why do you say that
The Trinity goes back to the early apostles, stop spreading lies.
why did Jesus say why do you call me good, there is only one that is good and that is the Father. Is "Trinity ever spoke of in the word?" So Jesus is the Holy Spirit, or the Father is? .. Catholics like every other pagan religion, are trinities. I don't understand.. How can one become one of the elect if there are 3 doctrines.? Unitarians .. Modalism .. Trinity? And they all accuse each other of freakin HERESY!!! What Jesus mean by, "You will do greater things than me?"..."THE" IS used in baptism, in the name of the Father, the Son, and The Holy Spirit. Did Christ tell us how to pray? Did he say to pray to Holy Spirit? Yes, they're al HeShem Adonia. Yahweh, Yahshua, no name is ever given to H.S Unless you're gnostic and SHE is called Sophia! Another heresy.
I need to unwrap what you are trying to say so i will start with your first statement.
"why did Jesus say why do you call me good, there is only one that is good and that is the Father"
So what you are saying is that Jesus is not GOOD....
Can i get your confirmation that Jesus is NOT Good....
God the creator
The son was the first Angel, son of God
Son of man.
All three in the flesh.
In the name of the father Melchizedek
In the name of the son Immanuel
In the name of the holy spirit Daniel the prophet.
God the creator is the only one that is good.
Jesus being his only son, is the first Angel,
In the flesh. But Immanuel is his name. Daniel the prophet was told what was written in the book of truth, and will rise up at the end times. The spirit of truth.
help you understand the trinity? ok 3 beings are one being.
After Jesus baptism, he was tempted by the Devil. Jesus said: "Go away,
Satan! For it is written,' It is Jehovah(Gods name found in Psalm 83:18) your God you must worship, and it is to him ALONE you must render sacred service. '(Matthew 4:10; Deuteronomy 6:13)
We can learn at least two things from this incident. First, Satan was
trying to entice Jesus to worship someone other than Jehovah, an attempt
that would have been absurd if Jesus were part of the same God. Second,
Jesus made it clear that there is just one God who must be worshiped
when he said " him ALONE," not "US," which he would have said if he were
part of a Trinity.
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Indeed. Many Christian denominations(and other religions) teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies.”
If you really 'examine' what the Bible says, and do not simply accept what certain ones claim that it says, you will find reason to trust it.
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Greetings. Thank you for the comment. Isaiah 8:20 does have a good point.
If I may, would like to share an article with you that dives deeper into the origin of how the Trinity was developed.
WHAT IS THE ORIGIN OF THE MYTH?
“The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”-New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299.
“The Council of Nicaea met on May 20, 325 [C.E.]. Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, ‘of one substance with the Father.’ . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination.”-Encyclopædia Britannica (1970), Volume 6, page 386.
WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?
“Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at God’s right hand. ‘Look! I can see heaven thrown open,’ he said, ‘and the Son of man standing at the right hand of God.’”-Acts 7:55, 56, The New Jerusalem Bible.
What did this vision reveal? Filled with God’s active force, Stephen saw Jesus “standing at God’s right hand.” Clearly, then, Jesus did not become God again after his resurrection to heaven but, rather, a distinct spiritual being. There is no mention of a third person next to God in this account. Despite attempts to find passages of Scripture to support the Trinity dogma, Dominican priest Marie-Émile Boismard wrote in his book À l’aube du christianisme-La naissance des dogmes (At the Dawn of Christianity-The Birth of Dogmas): “The statement that there are three persons in the one God . . . cannot be read anywhere in the New Testament.”
The dogma that Constantine championed was intended to put an end to dissensions within the fourth-century Church. However, it actually raised another issue: Was Mary, the woman who bore Jesus, “the Mother of God”?
Compare these Bible verses: Matthew 26:39; John 14:28; 1 Corinthians 15:27, 28; Colossians 1:15, 16
What do you think of this information friend?
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Good afternoon. Thanks for replying back.
I appreciate your honesty on what you believe in. I also will respect on how you choose to live.
I came to this CZcams video to have positive discussions on what the [THE WHOLE (2 Timothy 3:16,17)] Bible says on the subject, not what a man might think on what is true. I did not come to convert anyone or be converted myself. I hope you can respect that.
If you would like to talk more about, "WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE TRINITY" please feel free to hit me up.
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Afternoon again.
You say in the second paragraph, "THE TRINITY IS A FARCE"
If you look at the top of this discussion on the first thing I wrote, you will see that we are in a agreement. The Bible does not teach the trinity doctrine, I truly believe in that. That is the only thing I wanted to address on this page, nothing more.
I hope you don't mind but, I try not to get side tracked into conversations that has nothing to do with the subject. For me it can lead to misunderstanding.
If I visit another video forum pertaining to the questions you asked me, than I will participate. For this forum, i would like to stick to THE TRINITY DOCTRINE. If you have a link to another video that addresses what your talking about, please send me a link :)
They are one.
Amen Amen. A believer can rejoice at this comment, yet a nonbeliever cannot and would find it unnatractive to our Church.
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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U did not go into prayer by the blood
P
Pastor prays, "Father, God, Lord"...a Trinity in itself. Not a single name. The first sentence in the Bible has god's name, Elohim. Gen 1:27 says that God is male and female....not 3 males. Gen 1:2 is female's name is Ruach Elohim. (not Holy Spirit or Spirit of God)...Gen 2:4 is male's name YHWH Elohim. Gen 1:2 is the creation of Their son,,,,firstborn of all creation Col 1:15.
David, That is a unique perspective that God is female. I have never seen where it refers to God as "her" or "she" so please return that bottle of wisdom you are drinking from for a full refund. Starting at the beginning has proven to be difficult for some. Take a look at Deuteronomy 29:4 and pray for your understanding. I will too...
Maybe they was male and female, as in having both.
If only God is our savior, and There is no savior but God, and Jesus was born to be our savior.....Jesus is God!
Jude 1:25 (KJV) To the only wise God our Saviour, [be] glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
Hosea 13:4 (KJV) Yet I [am] the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for [there is] no saviour beside me.
Luke 2:11 (KJV) For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
Titus 1:4 (KJV) To Titus, [mine] own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, [and] peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
2 Peter 1:1 (KJV)
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 1:8 {the Father calls Jesus God}
But unto the Son he {God } saith,
Thy throne, O God {Theos}, is, forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The Holy Spirit applies this to Jesus in (Hebrews) and to The Father in (Psalm 45:6).
Psalm 45:6
Your throne, O God, will last,
forever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
Deuteronomy 6:13-14 {Holy Spirit said worship only God.}
"You shall fear only the LORD your God; and you shall worship Him and swear by His name.”You shall not follow other gods, any of the gods of the peoples who surround you,
Luke 4:8 {Jesus reminds satan only God is to be worshiped}
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him only shalt thou serve.
Hebrews 1:6 {the Father tells the angels to worship Jesus}
And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world he {God} saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Daniel 7:13-14, (The Father decrees all will worship him)
In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
Matthew 28:17 {Apostles worship Jesus} Luke 24:52
And when they saw him, they worshiped him:
And they worshiped him.
John 20:28, 29 {The Holy Spirit thru Thomas calls Jesus God}
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
{ o Kurios mou kai o Theos mou } the definite article.
…..Does Jesus correct Thomas? No, he calls him blessed.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Romans 9:5 {The Holy Spirit thru Paul calls Jesus GOD}
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen…NIV
I Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
Titus 2:13
Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,
Philippians 2:5-7
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of man:
John 1:1, 2,3,14 { The Holy Spirit thru John calls Jesus God}
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and God was the Word .
Ἐν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ Λόγος, καὶ ὁ Λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν Θεόν, καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος.
En arche en ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton Theon kai theos en ho Logos
He was in [the] beginning with God.
All things through him came into being, and without him came into being not even one [thing] which has come into being.
And the Word flesh became, and tabernacled among us,
John 1:9-10
The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world.
He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.
Acts 20:28 {The Holy Spirit thru Luke calls Jesus God}
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
2 Peter 1:1 {The Holy Spirit thru Peter calls Jesus God}
Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:
Isaiah 7:14 {The Holy Spirit thru the prophets calls Jesus God}
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Matthew 1:23 (The Holy Spirit thru Matthew defines the name Immanuel, Jesus is GOD}
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Revelation 1:8, 22:13, 16 (Jesus claims to be GOD)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end the first and the last…
I JESUS have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches.
Exodus 3:13-14 (the Father states he is I AM THAT I AM)
And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, what is his name? What shall I say unto them?
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 10:30-36 {John states Jesus said he is I AM}
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.
John 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
And Yet God is one
Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all ? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel;
The Lord our God is one Lord:
So who is HE?
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In His service,
This makes no sense at all. Anyone who thinks it does is deluded. Not 3
gods but 1 god in 3 persons but each of the 3 persons is fully god but
not 3 fully gods but just 1 god lol.
Hmm! You make no sense at all. Anyone that says a man and his wife are 1 couple yet 2 DISTINCTLY different persons, equal in importance to the furtherance of their marriage makes no sense. Genesis 2: 24; Mark 10: 8; Ephesians 5: 31. Lol!
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Nice try but try harder next time.
Yes a man and a woman are ONLY a couple when they are COMBINED.
So with the same analogy the trinity is god only when they are COMBINED.
A man is not a couple on his own but only when the woman is included.
But you believe jesus is fully god on his own and so is the fathet and the spirit.
Tania Ruba
Not good enough buddy. Not good enough. Here is some lecture for you:
The man and the woman are a couple ONLY when they are COMBINED, so also the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are a Trinity ONLY when they are COMBINED. The man is not a couple and the woman is not a couple, so also the Father is not a Trinity, nor is the Son a Trinity, nor is the Holy Spirit a Trinity.
But here is where it gets interesting buddy: The husband is not a flesh, and the wife is not a flesh (Genesis 2:24), but they each are DISTINCTLY and fully human. So also the Father is not a god, nor the Son a god, nor the Holy Spirit a god, but they each are DISTINCTLY and fully God.
Please note the small "g" and the capital "G".
I suggest you do some more study next time. Once you can fully understand the Scriptural concept of Marriage, then you can understand the Biblical concept of the Trinity.
Ha-ha!
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+Tosin Samuel Nice try but i'l give you a second chance lol.
I agree with you if you combine the father, son and the spirit then you have the trinity. So you should say you only have one trinity NOT ONE GOD LOL.
Like when you have a man and a woman YOU HAVE ONE COUPLE not one man or one woman lol.
The father is fully god, the son is fully god and the spirit is fully god. combine them together and you have 1 trinity but still 3 gods.
A man and a woman are 2 humans but ONE couple.
The father, son and spirit is 3 gods but one trinity :-)
When you find your logic and reason then you're welcome to reply lol
Haha that was a good one +Tania Ruba. I love the desperate effort christians make to explain the trinity. if only they knew how stupid they appear.
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And this is life eternal, that they might KNOW thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Jn 17:3
Dictionary: Know-to have understanding of.
incomprehensible-impossible to understand. source: Merriam-Webster-Learner's dictionary.
Amen. This is Jesus, talking TO his Father, claiming his Father alone is The ONE true God.
Blessings
A Mystery is something that is unexplainable.
Christians say the Trinity is a mystery, but at the sametime they try to explain the mystery.
The more you try to explain or understand a man made mystery the more you misunderstand it.
That's a cute semantical argument. I guess you didn't watch the video. It can't be fully understand in the sense that we can't relate to 3 persons being 1 being, because every human we know is 1 person and 1 being. That doesn't mean we can't understand the concept and see that it's affirmed in scripture. It's like time itself. We exist in time and space, but scientists agree that time and space came into existence at the "big bang." We Christians would call this "creation." But anyways, even scientists generally admit that whatever caused the universe had to exist outside of time and space. It had to be infinite. Can a scientist fully comprehend something being infinite? Of course not. Can he understand the theory? Sure. God cannot be fully understood by finite beings, as He is infinite. But we can understand Him on a finite level. So no, your semantics/equivocation argument won't work here.
The mystery is the Holy Spirit will come at the time of the end.
And no one has got the names right yet.
Melchizedek is the father. Immanuel is the son. You have to wait to see who the holy spirit is. Think about this, he is someone from the old testament. God had raised him from the dead, just like he did the one we call Jesus.
Exactly! God made His word easy to read and understand.
Yes, I can help you: the almighty God cannot be here for logical reasons, this is why He is in the past "the world has not known you". Thus, He can be present here now only in the form of a spirit. This is why in the Creation everything has been PERSONALLY made by Him (water, stars...) and now it's NOT POSSIBLE anymore (everything is now made by his Spirit). His Spirit is no "third God Person", is the Spirit of God HIMSELF ! "God is a spirit". Didn't you notice that neither the Father nor the Son ever talk to an alleged "third God-Person"? God is in the past, all sentences regarding his Person refer to the past , "You lovED me BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN"). Only then that happened, in the past, NO LOVE from the almighty God beyond that point of time ! When Jesus was baptized the Spirit of God, that is "God who is a spirit" simply said "...my beloved Son...", that's all. "Holy Spirit" and the "Spirit of God" are synonyms (see the gospels).
The father Melchizedek
The son Immanuel
The Holy Spirit Daniel.
i believe my understanding of this subject is in reason and is fully sensible to explain to all of the false religoins. I made a new video on The Eternal Name of Jesu. It is one hour long, but through my experience in the Church, I havent come to know a more perfect understanding than what I come to understand.
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He states... the most common error is what trinitarian’s call “modalism” (the TRUTH)... so the enemy of his false doctrine is the truth. But he calls the truth error... He needs to simply dissect & understand the definition of MONOTHEIST... It will refute his entire premise...
there is so much wrong with his interpretation it's not even funny. he takes many passages and interprets them one way and totally disregards the other passages that have a contradictory message than the one he holds to, which obviously that is why he disregards them. It's just sad that in many Christian belief systems they tend to only adhere to and agree with the passages that also agree with their preconceived understanding of who they want God to be. the irony is that Jeff condemned other religions for doing the exact same thing he is doing. not to mention the inaccurate interpretations of the doctrines he mentions from other religions. for instance I've study a lot about the Mormon (LDS) religion and they definitely don't agree with or believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. (3 distinct and individual persons which make up one eternal and perfect being that is God). just because doctrine are misunderstood or different from what you already believe doesn't mean they are wrong, just means you can't comprehend them yet, just as Jeff admitted that he can't comprehend God and could never hope to do so. the odd thing is that in John 17:3 we are taught that the only way to get eternal life is to know God. the issue comes when in order to know God you also have to be able to comprehend who He is and how He works, and Jeff admitted He doesn't comprehend or know God thus signifying that he in turn doesn't have a true understanding of the scriptures or the doctrines of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
+scott banta You are right when you say we should know God, or what God has revealed of Himself.
What is it John 17:3 tells us we should know about God? That He is the Father, "the only true God" and that the Father "sent" His Son Jesus Christ.
TheCaledonianBoy yes and not only are we encouraged to know God the Eternal Father but we are commanded to be like Him. (Matthew 5:48) and how could we ever hope to obey this command to be like Him if we don't learn to make perfect choices like Him and come to know everything about Him.
scott banta what is your opinion on the trinity and why is he (Jeff) committing heresy?
Jeff is just reading what the scriptures say and lets them speak for themself just like genesis where it reads let us go down and create man in our image. Angels do not create they are created so who was God speaking to obviously God the son and God the Holy Spirit wake up smell the coffee and quit drinking the Kool-Aid by reading what you had to say I can tell that you have allowed humanism to slip into your brain cells and you think because you are in control it can't be true. But realize you have a 3 lb brain that I hope you don't believe you can grasp everything just like when God said his ways are not our ways. Let's take a look at Isaiah 9 chapter 6 for instance. It reads for a child will be born to us a son will be given to us and the government will rest on his shoulders and his name will be called wonderful counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. It seems like you may know a little bit about the Bible have you ever known it to speak of anybody except God the father being eternal? or from ancient times??? Let's not forget who wrote Isaiah. Isaiah was a monotheistic Jew who believed in only one God but here and Isaiah 9:6 you see that he speaking of Jesus as God almighty. And you probably are pulling out the Sharpie to scribble out that passage in all your Bibles right? Oh don't put it away yet let's take a look yet Micah 5:2 where it reads for you Bethlehem ephrathah though you are small among the many clans of Judah out from you will come forth for me a ruler over Israel whose Origins are from old from ancient times.... Who was born in Bethlehem oh yeah Jesus. Who was the ruler over it oh yeah Jesus and there we have it again Isaiah saying that Jesus was from ancient times Jesus Is God God In the Flesh and and Jesus said unless you believe that I am you will die in your sins something to think really hard about friend. You religion won't be there when you take your last breath your mommy or your daddy. Absent from the body is present with the Lord and you will be in the presence of Jesus and your knee will be bowed just the way scripture says for every knee will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Since you seem to be a little confused let me repeat it and meditate on it with your 3-pound brain. Within the one being that is God there are three co-equal Co Eternal persons the father Son and the Holy Spirit. Do you notice when scripture says pray in the name of the father Son and Holy Spirit that's singular name? It just keeps going on buddy I'm not saying this because I'm mad at you I want you to wake up and be born again John 3:3 so that you can realize John 1:1and believe the word became flesh. Fyi John is a monotheistic Jew😉
God is not a schizophrenic look up where Trinity came from...the Catholics because they couldn't find an understanding of one God. Nor the prophets Apostles or Jesus preached the Trinity.
Have you read the Bible? The word 'trinity' was used by Tertullian long before Catholicism hijacked Christianity.
The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God-three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:
1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14.
6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things.
The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.
The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.
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