The problem with the WORLD'S CHEAPEST bullet train!

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  • čas přidán 31. 01. 2023
  • Bullet style high-speed trains are often expensive, but they don't have to be. I've found the cheapest high-speed train in the world, and it's the TCDD Yüksek Hızlı Tren (YHT) service in Turkey, travelling in Ekonomi Class!
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    Journey Details:
    Origin: Eskişehir
    Destination: Ankara YHT
    Company: TCDD Taşımacılık (Turkish State Railway Transport)
    Train: TCDD HT65000 'CAF Sepia'
    Accommodation: Ekonomi Class Seat (2nd)
    Distance: 245 kilometres / 152 miles
    Price: ₺45 (£2.40 / €2.90 / $3.30)
    Time: 1h29m, 15 minutes late
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Komentáře • 509

  • @SuperalbsTravels
    @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem +41

    What's the CHEAPEST high-speed train journey you've had? 👇💬

    • @natewp
      @natewp Před rokem +5

      10€ on occasion with the ICE in Germany

    • @hoverlordd
      @hoverlordd Před rokem +7

      Şuan da binerseniz 4.4€ ödersiniz😅

    • @transportromania
      @transportromania Před rokem +2

      DB ICE for free with a FIP coupon :)

    • @gabrielstevens3884
      @gabrielstevens3884 Před rokem +2

      I paid €19 for the Frecciarossa from Rome to Milan a few years ago which for the distance is a right bargain.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem +1

      @@gabrielstevens3884 that's really good!

  • @bugra1494
    @bugra1494 Před rokem +100

    For anyone wondering, the food situation in trains have improved about 2-3 months after this video. There is now a decent cafeteria with better snacks and filter coffee from starbucks

  • @karbonatjelil
    @karbonatjelil Před rokem +204

    As a student in Ankara I can say you're absolutely right about the luggage problem. But besides TCDD's fault, passengers also guilty about it. They think 'We can leave luggage there so we can easily take it while unboarding. Still it's the best way to travel as a student because of the travel time and of course the ticket price.

    • @polnyjj
      @polnyjj Před rokem +7

      not only the thing you mentioned also they think they can carry everything especially old people

    • @saidberk6599
      @saidberk6599 Před rokem +1

      @@polnyjj they are announcing pickles are not allowed as a luggage in train :D

    • @uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125
      @uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125 Před rokem +3

      Olm türkçe konuşsanıza

    • @saidberk6599
      @saidberk6599 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125 gardaş maksat küresel çapta duyurmak zaten neden Türkçe konuşalım?

    • @uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125
      @uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@saidberk6599 Hayır onu demiyorum kendi aranızda altta konuşurken ingilizce konuşuyonuz, bizim çoğu türko anlamaz bunu

  • @ZIGZAG12345
    @ZIGZAG12345 Před rokem +87

    £2.40 to go for a 152 mile trip on a HST, that's definitely excellent value, even if there are "downsides"!

    • @chemistyr
      @chemistyr Před rokem +10

      I live in istanbul and I am a 15 yrs old high schooler. with every holiday in school, I go near my big brother in ankara by this HST.
      if the train starts by 9 am(in pendik), lets say im there in 8:50 am.
      my parents drop me by car, but minibus service is 0,5 euro or smth. you can go by taxi for 5 euros I guess, try not to get scammed by drivers, as many will try. don't talk serious to them, if they ask you what do you do, you can say im an aerospace engineer in Goethe-institut (they will believe and if they don't, they won't beat you).
      I go to the ID control section which lasts max. of 2 minutes. if there is -say- 20 minutes to your train and there is hell lotta of queue, just ask them which train they are waiting for. the railways are very busy and they are prolly waiting for another train.
      next, I go upstairs to wait for my train. when train comes, just wait for a minute or so. if you can't find your carriage, just get inside a door. all of the carriages are connected. unless the train goes by without you, you WILL found your nice cozy seat. if there are people sitting in the seat where you are supposed to sit, double-check and say to them that that seat is yours, you bought it. there are being cases like that.
      if 12a-b or 1a-b are not selected by anyone, buy them instead of them all. there are like + >5cm of foot space in them.
      if you go with business class, they will give you some water and muffin. enjoy
      you go from pendik(istanbul) to ankara gar? 248 TL (12) euro has to be paid (10e with youth discount)
      i have been in this train for 4-6 times, there are no luggage scenarios like this one, I haven't seen any.
      this train goes 250kmh for 10 minutes or so.
      if i am going to sleep, I prefer to bring a jacket and inflatable pillow with me.
      I think this is it, I don't mind any "problems" mentioned in this video, i don't think it is claustrophobic as it may seem from the

    • @ZIGZAG12345
      @ZIGZAG12345 Před rokem +2

      @@chemistyr
      That was a pretty detailed reply! 👍

    • @lagg3sbd394
      @lagg3sbd394 Před rokem +8

      Converting Turkish prices directly to western currencies is a bit misleading though, as our wages are a lot lower in terms of euro as well.

    • @chemistyr
      @chemistyr Před rokem +1

      @@lagg3sbd394 the purpose was to convert two currencies. I think it shows how poor we are as well

    • @hupturiiiikk
      @hupturiiiikk Před rokem +1

      Next time, I will try 12a-b or 1a-b, and thx for your recommendation.

  • @teomanefeaycan4854
    @teomanefeaycan4854 Před rokem +107

    11:40 Fun fact: It is called Başkentray because Ankaray name was already taken by the city's light metro in 1996 (heavy metro is instead named Ankara Metrosu/Metro of Ankara) while Başkentray came about in 2018 after a 2-year complete rebuild of the old "Ankara banliyösü (Ankara suburban (rail))"

    • @Talha10
      @Talha10 Před rokem +3

      Also başkent means capital and ray means rail. Capitalrail . A pretty nice name imo

  • @iwawlvoyvoda5384
    @iwawlvoyvoda5384 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Your pronouncation of "Eskişehir" was really good that I'm really impressed. Video is also really good and informational, appreciate it

  • @ismailmertcileci4199
    @ismailmertcileci4199 Před rokem +52

    I really appreciated your struggle to pronounce all words correctly, which is rare among foreign videos about Türkiye. Your pronunciations were nearly perfect that I was really amazed haha. Great video.

  • @prosec2
    @prosec2 Před rokem +9

    12:15 you said it is 45TL for Eskişehir to Ankara but it is -60TL 75TL 90TL- 110TL now

  • @plonss
    @plonss Před rokem +331

    I am a regular traveller with the YHT between İstanbul and Ankara and found your review much to the point, emphasising rightly some of the oddities of train travel in Turkey. The TCDD remains a weird company, out of touch with accepted practice in the outside world. That there is only one door per carriage is just one striking example. Furthermore they have enormous resources and a large number of employees but only manage to run a limited number of trains.

    • @kampfpanzerleopard346
      @kampfpanzerleopard346 Před rokem +81

      The answer is corruption.

    • @fusionreactor7179
      @fusionreactor7179 Před rokem +5

      @@kampfpanzerleopard346It is not

    • @fusionreactor7179
      @fusionreactor7179 Před rokem +30

      They run limited lines because Turkey has a tiny amount of railroad and only a single High Speed Line from İstanbul to Ankara and Karaman. TCDD is only the operator, they don’t decide or build the rail, speaking of which a lot of lines are beşng constructed including Ankara-Afyon-İzmir, Ankara-Sivas and Bilecik-Bursa and after this there are a dozen new lines planned. Ankara-İzmir will open by 2026 and Ankara-Sivas will probably also open in the next 1.5-2 years after much delay

    • @kampfpanzerleopard346
      @kampfpanzerleopard346 Před rokem +38

      @@fusionreactor7179 And what is causing these delays I might ask? If Tayyip builds something, it is becase he wants to enrich a friend of his not serve his people.

    • @fusionreactor7179
      @fusionreactor7179 Před rokem +17

      @@kampfpanzerleopard346 I will not bother explaining to a wall

  • @shooting4star2023
    @shooting4star2023 Před rokem +184

    For USD$3, even if doubled to $6, it's still an unbelievable awesome value, especially the train seemingly does run at the advertised top speed of 250 KM/h for most part of the journey. Far greater value than the fake high speed train Acela in the U.S. that cost me $52 around 2010 for a 20-min ride from Philly to Joe Biden's hometown Wilmington in the state of Delaware.

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem +10

      Oh wow, that does sound ridiculous! Thanks for watching! :)

    • @packohub1145
      @packohub1145 Před rokem +9

      That's how Us Congress price the military hardwares too l😂😂😂😂

    • @cs2forlife
      @cs2forlife Před rokem +17

      its cheap because 1 USD = 20 Lira but it is not cheap for Turkish people because they earn Lira not USD

    • @oguzakkaya4720
      @oguzakkaya4720 Před rokem +28

      @@cs2forlife it's still cheap for Turks. 45 lira is nothing.

    • @xof5493
      @xof5493 Před rokem +1

      As a Turkish, it's actually expensive for Turkish people, as 1 euro is equal to 22 or even more turkish liras, it is pretty cheap for people who uses it. Same goes for dollar.

  • @icspawn
    @icspawn Před rokem +9

    7:15 this memorial monument for the last point that Greek army to reached. After that point Turkish Army started to storm and pushed back invaders till Izmir. That's the real meaning behind it.

  • @keremozgur
    @keremozgur Před rokem +5

    It is usually the economy class tickets that are sold out, as they are dirt cheap. In 2023 the price for the same route is 110 TL which is equivalent to €5.

  • @rockerjim8045
    @rockerjim8045 Před rokem +14

    i always buy my socks at the High Speed Railway Station

  • @TwoWholeWorms
    @TwoWholeWorms Před rokem +109

    It's a shame they didn't reuse the old station building in Eskisehir as an entrance or exit, considering it's so close to the new station.

    • @nikhilPUD01
      @nikhilPUD01 Před rokem +14

      And it's actually have good design from outside standout from other structures around it

    • @borancam7426
      @borancam7426 Před rokem +5

      It is still being renovated

    • @gokermalikaltuntas6355
      @gokermalikaltuntas6355 Před rokem +7

      I am a local architect. They actually wanted to build a new station. It was gonna function also as a shopping center. The city is divided into two by the railway. The new station was gonna stand over the rails and connect two parts of the city. Waving roofs on top of the perons was part of the plan. For some reason, the rest is never built.

    • @u9477
      @u9477 Před rokem

      ​@@gokermalikaltuntas6355for some reason = no money/incentive left to build it

    • @gokermalikaltuntas6355
      @gokermalikaltuntas6355 Před rokem

      @@u9477 Maybe, even probably correct. I just don't have any input to confirm this, but any one is welcomed to speculate, for sure.

  • @gabrielstevens3884
    @gabrielstevens3884 Před rokem +27

    I've used this type of train in Spain and even though its comfortable enough we were always running a few minutes late due to the fact there is just that 1 small door for getting on and off the train. I found storage to fine as the overhead racks were large enough for most bags. Still more space than you get on the majority of our trains in the UK. Especially when you end up on a 3x2 seating train where you just cant move down the train with bags.

  • @yagi3925
    @yagi3925 Před rokem +41

    As an answer to one of your questions: doors for overhead luggage comportments are rare, that's for sure, but I know they exist on Canadian trains. At the very least on the intercity trains operating on the Canadian "corridor". In the case of North America, it's typical of the train industry taking after airline practices. Air travel rules supreme in N.A.

    • @OntarioTrafficMan
      @OntarioTrafficMan Před rokem +2

      Until very recently, Transport Canada required doors on overhead bins. They have never been required in the United States as far as I'm aware

    • @AL5520
      @AL5520 Před rokem

      Also available on the current Acela trains (the new ones will have the regular open overhead luggage racks).

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Před rokem

      The GranClass cars on the _Tohoku_ & _Hokuriku Shinkansen_ have doors for overhead luggage compartments too

  • @doublez3ta
    @doublez3ta Před rokem +30

    The Amtrak Acela trains here in the USA also have airline-style overhead bins that close

    • @qjtvaddict
      @qjtvaddict Před rokem

      On just a single line

    • @shooting4star2023
      @shooting4star2023 Před rokem

      @@qjtvaddict And it shares the tracks with other trains, probably including freighters as well.

    • @TexasCat99
      @TexasCat99 Před rokem

      They kind of look like Amtrak. Cheapest possible design.

  • @flightsimmer9809
    @flightsimmer9809 Před rokem +1

    just love following your trips and vlogs keep them up mate.

  • @balikci77
    @balikci77 Před rokem +11

    Man I love your pronunciation of the turkish words! My parents are from Eskişehir and I visited the city last year after a very long time, of course using the YHT for travelling. It's such a bizarre feeling seeing all the familiar places in your video :D from the old Eskişehir train station to the new train station and the platforms. Hope you had a great time in Eskişehir!

  • @fusionreactor7179
    @fusionreactor7179 Před rokem +13

    There are many reasons why it is so ridiculously cheap but primarily
    1-Recent exchange rate collapse where Lira lost a lot of value so the price in Euro went down
    2-A lot of things in Turkey are awfully subsidised to the detriment of efficiency
    3-A lot of populist political pushback against raising prices according to Inflation so the prices in fact go down when they remain static.
    3 Euros is 60liras which absolutely does not even remotely cover the costs of the ticket Probably covers barely a quarter of the actual cost. This is what happens when a country experiences rapid inflation while the incumbemt government has election anxiety and doesn’t raise prices

  • @eeceleste
    @eeceleste Před rokem +47

    unfortunately it is not cheap for Turkish people who takes average wage. it is too hard to travel in Turkiye right now if you don't have a very well paid job.

    • @yagi3925
      @yagi3925 Před rokem +10

      It's called "Turkey" in English. "Türkiye" is a Turkish word, not an English one.

    • @strikein8698
      @strikein8698 Před rokem +33

      @Yagi u understood what they meant tho? So what the problem xd?

    • @lws7394
      @lws7394 Před rokem +19

      @@yagi3925 FYI : the government of Turkey recently announced that the preferred name is to be 'Republic of Türkiye' and 'Made in Türkiye' . In a similar way as that Peking now is Beijing and Bombay Mumbay ...

    • @eeceleste
      @eeceleste Před rokem +6

      @@yagi3925 Turkish government changed their international identity just so you know.

    • @yagi3925
      @yagi3925 Před rokem +7

      @@eeceleste I know full well but 1. "International" doesn't automatically or exclusively mean "English", 2. As I pointed out, Turkish speakers (or speakers of any other language) have no authority to change anything in a foreign language. It's none of your business, so your gvt's decision is null and void. 3. As a consequence, your country is still called "Turkey" in English, whether you or AKP like it or not.

  • @caniplayzz
    @caniplayzz Před rokem +13

    I highly enjoyed your previous YHT video, first I'd like to congratulate you on your pronunciation! Second of all, the reason the cafe wasnt operating as usual is because of the Pandemic. I havent been on a YHT but as far as I know they served meals before the pandemic and they havent returned to serving meals since.

  • @BobTravellin
    @BobTravellin Před rokem +22

    The baggage situation reminded me of a trip I took on Thalys back in 2010, returning from London to Warsaw because my flight to Trinidad had been cancalled due to the Icelandic volcano eruption.... I was on the Brusels to Aachen leg and the train was packed, even the steps at each door piled with baggage (I guess a lot of people were is the same position as me, desperately trying get home ). I was actually standing with one leg jammed between suitcases on the lowest step, the other leg a step higher, and leant against the door by the press of the crowd. We were doing the best part of 150kph, and I remember thinking that if we crashed I was without doubt going to die - the only time in my life I've ever been frightened travelling (whether by train, plane or anything else).

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem +3

      Yikes, sounds unpleasant...
      Thalys video coming soon!

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Před rokem

      On the other hand HK enforces baggage size limits more strictly for HSR trains leaving the city, & expects you to arrange for your own courier service for oversized luggage

    • @ggoddkkiller1342
      @ggoddkkiller1342 Před rokem

      If high speed trains derail survival chance is slim anyway..

    • @athrunzala6770
      @athrunzala6770 Před rokem

      ​@@ggoddkkiller1342 it depends on which train .. the TGV has already derailed at 270 km / h and there were no deaths but 22 injured

  • @milasmorgul
    @milasmorgul Před 6 měsíci +1

    As a routine commuter from Ankara to Eskişehir this video was pretty entertaining to watch. Also watched your other videos. Great job on capturing the high speed railways of Turkey! The luggage situation is a big annoyance but overall service is good for the price.

  • @rezaalan3991
    @rezaalan3991 Před rokem +25

    Great trip and yeah great pronunciation every place you've passed. I think this price considered cheap for Euro and US Dollar user plus currency with higher values than both of them, but for local currency and other countries currency with lower value than Euro and US Dollar, it may be expensive.

    • @osasunaitor
      @osasunaitor Před rokem +1

      This guy is a polyglot, wherever he goes he learns to pronounce names surprisingly well
      I had the same reaction when he visited Spain

    • @muhammedalikahveci6057
      @muhammedalikahveci6057 Před rokem +1

      You are kinda right. It is not that much cheap for turkish people but still yht is cheaper than bus. So yeah it is still cheap

    • @ilberr
      @ilberr Před rokem

      it is quite cheap for many of people but i remember, in 2018 i booked YHT ticket for like 6 or 7 TRY(Turkish lira) and in 2018, dollar 4 or 5 TRY. it become a bit expensive for us😊

    • @_fallenangel4106
      @_fallenangel4106 Před rokem

      Cheaper than many other means of transportation.

  • @randomdude8202
    @randomdude8202 Před rokem +3

    CAF units are not the only kind. The first CAF trains entered service in 2009. Siemens Velaro D model is in use since 2014. These two train sets are actively work on existing train tracks.

  • @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656
    @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656 Před 10 měsíci +2

    3:36 Please do a review on AVE in Basico class on S102 and also do a review on the RENFE S121 like the one on screen. I love your videos and I'm subscribed to your channel.

  • @demirklcaslan5461
    @demirklcaslan5461 Před rokem +1

    Bro i am from eskişehir turket i love the video thanks for coming my hometown

  • @guluturk
    @guluturk Před rokem +8

    The thing with the bags being everywhere isn’t a surprise. Turks aren’t exactly known for our attention to detail or efficient use of space.

  • @richard-riku
    @richard-riku Před rokem +10

    4:42 considering the line is not that old, it doesn't take a very direct route to Ankara. If you look at recent Shinkansen lines they take much more direct routes through the mountains (with large amounts of the line in tunnels).

  • @Hollandstation
    @Hollandstation Před rokem +7

    great informative video!

  • @federicomarintuc
    @federicomarintuc Před rokem +1

    The station with pay toilets and lots of shops in the common spaces reminded me of the old bus station on my city

  • @jacquesmainguy1
    @jacquesmainguy1 Před rokem +3

    I've had the exact same messy baggage and even worse toilet situation in 2nd class on the Thalys, between Amsterdam-Schiphol and Paris.

  • @TA4EIA
    @TA4EIA Před 8 měsíci +1

    I studied in Eskişehir and my then gf now fiancee was in Ankara, so i dont know how many times i took the train between 2017-2020. Even as a broke student it was super affordable for me. I was taking the first train at 6am and taking back the turning train at 19:30am. Missed the good old days

  • @deckscomm
    @deckscomm Před rokem +185

    The ✨Deutsche Bahn✨ would be so Jealous when seeing this value to money

    • @Patrick-on2ty
      @Patrick-on2ty Před rokem +14

      schau mal nach England😉

    • @heniderking
      @heniderking Před rokem

      9,65€ super sparpreis young 🫡

    • @paul_ko
      @paul_ko Před rokem +38

      Well you can get from Munich to Hamburg (over 800km/500mi) for as little as €12.90 if you're under 27, which is a great price considering the better comfort/condition of the trains and the fact that the average income in Germany is much higher than in Turkey

    • @user-vi1lv2xi9i
      @user-vi1lv2xi9i Před rokem +17

      ​@@paul_ko if you book like 20 years in advance, yeah

    • @UnnormaI
      @UnnormaI Před rokem +1

      Well, the ICEs already can get crammed and introducing something like the 9€ Ticket to hsr would only make things worse.

  • @andrewpepper8031
    @andrewpepper8031 Před rokem +2

    That is very excellent value I must admit.

  • @fork-centraldaseleicoes3729

    Atleast you guys *have* high speed trains

  • @allanjensen1195
    @allanjensen1195 Před 8 měsíci

    White static noise instead of lovely Turkish music = Selling Point

  • @kamilkampfwagen
    @kamilkampfwagen Před rokem +2

    I would suggest you to use a polarizing filter to manage reflections when shooting from windows. There are also clip-on versions for smartphones.

  • @ProudPassport
    @ProudPassport Před rokem +5

    I’m from Turkey and I learned a ton from your video 😄❤️

    • @emrekalayci4425
      @emrekalayci4425 Před rokem +1

      Yanlış öğrendin kardeşim. Baya yerin dibine sokmuş. O hızlı trene kaç kere bindim ve gayet keyifli. Ki bunları muhalif bir insan olarak yazıyorum. Yolun çoğunda 250 ile gidiyor ve o yolu 1,5 saatte alıyorsun. Avrupada da hızlı trene bindim, hem pahalı hem de tren istasyonlarının etrafı garip tiplerle dolu. Romada da, Pariste de, Marsilyada da durum bu. Tren kalitesinde de hiç bir fark yok. Restoranı ise gayet güzel normalde ama muhtemelen pandemiden dolayı öyle.. Radyosunu da 100 kere dinledim ve bozuk falan değildi. Bagaj desen 1 kere görmedim. Muhtemelen okulların kapanma sezonuna denk geldi yada tam trenden inişleri çekiyor.. Haksız bir değerlendirme bence. O hattaki tek sorun sinyalsiz açılmasıydı. Zaten ondan dolayı kaza oldu. Bunu belirtse sonuna kadar haklı, fakat trenler ve yolculuk kalitesi iyi bence.

  • @nemoshu7119
    @nemoshu7119 Před měsícem

    In many countries (including Turkey) operators of public Wi-Fi facilities are legally required to note down the identity of the person corresponding to every connecting device for security reasons. That could be the reason why they would insist taking your ticket number as it was linked to your ID.

  • @Zuuu40
    @Zuuu40 Před rokem

    Awesome video

  • @adamd.6494
    @adamd.6494 Před rokem +15

    I can buy a subway ticket with €3. This is actually quite insane ngl.

    • @aightg
      @aightg Před rokem +1

      for subway its 15 cents per ride in Izmir,Turkey and everything(ferry, busses, tram, other train lines) becomes free for 90 minutes

  • @mukundbalasubramanian1229

    9:01 Could be because there's no in-house radio and you weren't close to any radio stations.

  • @GamerOnWheels
    @GamerOnWheels Před rokem +1

    Will you be traveling on the new HSL thats about to open between Ankara and Sivas? I would love to see a video about that.

  • @tahayldz4467
    @tahayldz4467 Před rokem

    I believe this a older version they use a new and a different model in Konya-Ankara(overall radio, chairs, charge stations, laguage storage are a bit different and some other things also way better compared to this model/variant)

  • @Arghans
    @Arghans Před rokem +1

    A member of staff on board could sort most of the baggage issue pretty quickly. How much of that 15 minute delay was due to dwell times for this. For all it’s faults least it managed some USB sockets which many in Europe don’t provide.

  • @dragoranletsplays8999

    Hey @Superalbs Travels do you follow recommendations ? I would like to see a video on the AKN near Hamburg it is a regional commuter Company based in Kaltenkirchen it has 3 routes and is my local Railway company and IF you have the choice try to catch one of they're newer Lint 54 trains because the older VTA trains are quite loud given you sit in the powered wagon

  • @dewpiece
    @dewpiece Před rokem

    Cafeteria only serves packed food after the pandemic it was even fully shot down during the pandemic. It used to serve hot meals and snacks. They will probably return to that sooner or later.

  • @demichansamos
    @demichansamos Před rokem

    Nice video.
    May I ask you what is the map you are using in the videos?

  • @AymanTravelTransport
    @AymanTravelTransport Před rokem

    Bruh, its literally cheaper than a short hop to Preston on my local line (sub 10 miles) and this is equivalent to going from Preston to Birmingham, which itself is at least 20x more expensive IF you're lucky enough to be eligible for a railcard

  • @dovahkiin715
    @dovahkiin715 Před rokem +1

    Its actually a bit annoying that i live in Turkey and you probably traveled around in Turkey more than me.

  • @altay8832
    @altay8832 Před rokem

    After eskişehir, this train goes to istanbul which I travel estimately every 3 months and it cost 10 USD Ankara to İstanbul for students in economy class.

  • @kirlisakaall
    @kirlisakaall Před rokem

    Cafe area is changed now there are much better seats and tables and they have various sandwiches, snacks, cold and hot drinks even starbucks coffee :)

  • @furkanyldz8460
    @furkanyldz8460 Před rokem +23

    If you had preferred the 8-car Siemens Velaro D model instead of CAF trains, it offered a more modern and comfortable use.
    I take care to choose this train when traveling from istanbul to ankara in the same line and way

    • @SeeLasSee
      @SeeLasSee Před rokem

      How do you know which model train is being used?

    • @furkanyldz8460
      @furkanyldz8460 Před rokem +2

      @@SeeLasSee There are only two different model train sets in Turkey's high-speed train inventory. The first CAF trains entered service in 2009. Siemens Velaro D model is in use since 2014. These two train sets are actively on existing train tracks. And I traveled with both train models numbers of times

    • @ahmetakman5261
      @ahmetakman5261 Před rokem +1

      @@furkanyldz8460 Indeed, there is a huge difference between those two.

  • @ATESH1981
    @ATESH1981 Před rokem +1

    At today's rate, an economy class ticket about $5.2 = 110 ₺

  • @MarioFanGamer659
    @MarioFanGamer659 Před rokem

    I'm always paranoid about my stuff when traveling and the fact that the luggage rack can be closed really doesn't help here.

  • @mert1208
    @mert1208 Před rokem

    The newer version should fix the little rattlings and other observable uncomfortable placements.

  • @iPlayOnSpica
    @iPlayOnSpica Před rokem +11

    The first thing that struck me as odd is how low the train station's platform was, so much so that the train car's exit needed so many steps down. Japanese shinkansen cabin floors are level with the high station platforms, and boarding/getting off is fast.

    • @daniellewis1789
      @daniellewis1789 Před rokem +1

      There's a conflict between high level platforms for passenger service, and freight clearance. This might come up on tracks with dual use, with MOW equipment clearance, or if the specs for HSR just copy what's used for conventional passenger service. It also makes bilevel trains board from the low level rather than the middle level (for example the North American Bombardier bi-level cars use low level boarding, CalTrans new EMUs have doors for both mid and low level boarding).

    • @bjoernaltmann
      @bjoernaltmann Před rokem +1

      Japan is slightly more advanced

    • @omerfaruk3332
      @omerfaruk3332 Před rokem +1

      ​@@bjoernaltmannJust slightly?

    • @judefernandez827
      @judefernandez827 Před 12 dny

      Slightly 😂 light years ahead buddy

  • @cangokce9107
    @cangokce9107 Před rokem +2

    Ideally you should wait until everyone has dismounted before boarding a train

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem

      If people stop getting off, then how is anyone possibly meant to know that there's more to come? 🙄

  • @thewormemperor
    @thewormemperor Před rokem

    I still remember them being brand new, clean and with good beer at bars. How low we have fallen

  • @AndrewG1989
    @AndrewG1989 Před rokem +1

    Now that does sound cheap in Turkey. Very strange looking station that has been built underground. Still those high speed trains are very nice.

  • @zcsatici
    @zcsatici Před rokem

    A cabin type luggage easily fits on the top closets. People are just too lazy about using them. About bad conditions, trains were purchased second hand from Spanish high speed train fleet.

  • @sunshine8556
    @sunshine8556 Před rokem

    Love the Turkish pronunciation (no pun intended).

  • @RobespierreThePoof
    @RobespierreThePoof Před rokem

    "water and socks" Yes, exactly what I want on the way to catching a train.

  • @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656
    @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656 Před 10 měsíci +1

    0:07 Please release the video on the AVE S103 Velaro, because I'm going to travel with it on 21st August. I am subscribed to your channel and I like your lovely videos

  • @maleeshapriyanjana7604
    @maleeshapriyanjana7604 Před rokem +1

    What is the app you use to measure speed of train ?

  • @ahmttnt
    @ahmttnt Před 11 měsíci

    One of the High Speed Trains in Turkey (Sivas-Ankara Line) was derailed today due to a landslide. There is a Turkish proverb about this situation: "The stew of cheap meat is not edible."

  • @alfaeco15
    @alfaeco15 Před rokem +2

    Luggage, specially big ones, are an usual problem when travelling by rail.

  • @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656
    @mariadelmarjimenezarroyo2656 Před 10 měsíci +1

    8:15 Well, you paid the ride, so you can do everything you want, even if it disturbs to your fellow passengers. I always do it when travelling.

  • @captainminecraft631
    @captainminecraft631 Před 4 měsíci

    Polatli’s original station in downtown is functionally useless, with trains mostly to Ankara, adding onto a much more frequent bus service. Only two night trains to Izmir and Istanbul being the grey ducks. Already faster and more frequent services to Istanbul are provided through the YHT depot. The only train of any use there is the Izmir blue train. However, in 2027, even that train will be useless with the Ankara-Izmir YHT line. It’s kinda like a game of pick your poison for the people in Polatli.

  • @RegebroRepairs
    @RegebroRepairs Před rokem +10

    For 3 euros I would have sat on my luggage in the corridor. We need more high speed service. If it's cheap it's even better. That the experience is like an old local train is frankly OK. 😀

    • @erkinyldrm6579
      @erkinyldrm6579 Před rokem +1

      Saying that it is 3€ kinda misrepresents the situation. Think it like 2 minimum wage hours at the time of filming. Lira lost a lot of value in recent years. But YHT is still kinda cheap

  • @Desi365
    @Desi365 Před rokem +1

    For €3, that's an incredible deal, actually.

  • @omeraktas4821
    @omeraktas4821 Před rokem

    Very minor correction: Polatlı is not a city, it is a district of Ankara

  • @michaelhall8586
    @michaelhall8586 Před rokem +2

    The weather looks so chilly!

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem +4

      For Turkey, I was surprised, but it was winter! 😅

    • @plonss
      @plonss Před rokem +2

      @@SuperalbsTravels Weirdly Turkey has in W-Europe still an image of being a warm country. In winter large parts of the country are freezing !

  • @acaru4925
    @acaru4925 Před rokem

    I enjoyed the great coffee smell in turkish High Speed Stations...

  • @averageplanecrazyenjoyer6453

    while you were on the train the agreement of the food company was over but then another agreement is done so now there is food at food car

  • @Mantik41
    @Mantik41 Před rokem

    When you come to Turkey, you should take the eastern express.

  • @daniellango3668
    @daniellango3668 Před rokem

    In case of an emergency evacuation one would need to leave the luggages behind so it wouldn’t be an issue

  • @simonhrabec9973
    @simonhrabec9973 Před rokem

    Not working wifi networks are the worst :P Seems like once set up no one ever checks if they work.

  • @oguzdrvirus3119
    @oguzdrvirus3119 Před rokem +3

    Bidet and toilet paper are used together. 😀 First toilet paper, then water via bidet, then toilet paper again. 😉

  • @rsethc
    @rsethc Před 8 měsíci

    Generally when WiFi services like this are locked down and require you to identify yourself in some way to connect, my assumption is that it's not necessarily a matter of keeping people from mooching off the connection, but rather about reducing liability for illegal accesses such as piracy. If such activity were traced back to the train WiFi, the organization can put a name with the logs, whereas otherwise they could perhaps be blamed for not doing their due diligence.

    • @segwhkamaza6447
      @segwhkamaza6447 Před 6 měsíci

      Yep with how crowded the network you can do pretty much anything its just a firewall

  • @publicminx
    @publicminx Před 3 měsíci

    actually the new Eskisehir station looks for me not much more modern than the old one. The new one has actually quite a 70ties aesthetics. I guess there were some reasons why they could not use the old station anymore but maybe they can use it for other things?

  • @yenersenol6895
    @yenersenol6895 Před rokem +1

    In order to take the train for 3 Euros in Turkey, Turkish citizens have to buy a car with a sale price of 50 000 Euros in Europe for 100 000 Euros in Turkey. They even have to buy some cars 400% more expensive. This is what it means. 3 Euro is a symbolic price. It does not subtract the costs. You can tell by the neglect of the toilet faucet on the train.

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes Před rokem

    Unless the travel time is more than 5 hours. Comfortable high capacity seats make more sense.
    No need for luxury coaches.
    Something lumo trains do in UK

  • @DaGuys470
    @DaGuys470 Před rokem +1

    That price is crazy. I pay more for my 12 km daily commute

  • @felixtheodorwilliams3966

    Can You Ride The Rubber Nose IR4 From Esbjerg To Copenhagen Main station

  • @gorkem9708
    @gorkem9708 Před rokem

    12:47 It's hard to believe, but this situation is always happening. They never understand...

  • @aynamehd7455
    @aynamehd7455 Před rokem +4

    The ice frequently costs 10 € for trips of a few hours

    • @thatsimon4275
      @thatsimon4275 Před rokem +3

      How would one find these cheap tickets?

    • @Volodimar
      @Volodimar Před rokem

      @@thatsimon4275 by sacrificing their firstborn to Satan

    • @natewp
      @natewp Před rokem

      @@thatsimon4275 If you're younger than 27, have a railcard, and buy in advance.

    • @heniderking
      @heniderking Před rokem

      @ThatSimon when traveling from one central station to another and buying the ticket 2-3 weeks prior

    • @aynamehd7455
      @aynamehd7455 Před rokem

      @@thatsimon4275 12 euros if u are under 27 without the bahncard for supersparpreis and sparpreis that includes a city ticket is like 15 euros less than 180 days prior ideally 1 month in advance to two months in advance will be chapest

  • @mdzaid5925
    @mdzaid5925 Před rokem

    9:15, They do very likely to keep track of what you are doing on the internet. Otherwise, if anonymous, criminals may use it for their activities.

  • @rianfokker8030
    @rianfokker8030 Před 11 měsíci

    The problems of Turkey's Istanbul - Ankara High Speed Railway (YHT) :
    1. Too many stops. For example, an Ankara bound train will start the journey usually from Söğütlüçeşme, then stop at Bostancı, Pendik, and Gebze before leaving Istanbul, all of them are still close to each other and connected with the Istanbul's suburban railway Marmaray.
    The journey then continues to Izmit, Arifiye, Bilecik, Bozüyük, Eskişehir, Polatlı, Eryaman, and finally Ankara.
    The distances between the stops before Eskişehir on average are only between 40 - 50 kilometers (with Bilecik - Bozüyük only about 34 kilometers away).
    Lastly, the train will stop at Eryaman before it ends at Ankara, both are actually also being connected with Ankara's suburban railway Başkentray.
    In short, there are too many unnecessary stops. Instead of stopping at too many stations, it is much better to provide feeder trains between stations located in larger cities and stations in smaller areas. Or maybe, some stops are just useless, since they are still in a near distance with each other and can be reached easily.
    2. Many segments of the tracks, especially the Söğütlüçeşme - Arifiye one is adjacent with the regular rail tracks (Anahat), which are located between dense residential area. This makes the train can only reach speed no more than 100 kilometers per hour at those locations. Aside from reducing the stops numbers, the tracks maybe should be separated from the regular ones.
    3. The train departs on time, but always arrives late. Perhaps because the factors mentioned above, or other reasons unknown yet.
    4. With all those factors above, the journey takes 5 hours and a half in total. In comparison, the journey will take 5 hours by private cars, 8 hours by buses, and 10 hours by regular night trains. So, the journey is may not as "high speed" as it sounds.

  • @LawpickingLocksmith
    @LawpickingLocksmith Před rokem

    Good value for money.

  • @defenderofturan5850
    @defenderofturan5850 Před rokem

    5:49 onun amacı arkaya yaslanınca kolunu dayamak yani o bir kapak değil o ufak bir yastık

  • @c4m3l23
    @c4m3l23 Před rokem +3

    As a swiss Iam pretty anouyed that you go into the train before all people left the train. As a train enthusiast... XD

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem

      I had no idea more were coming, as nobody got off for a while! 😂

    • @aightg
      @aightg Před rokem

      I was annoyed as a Turk too :)

    • @SuperalbsTravels
      @SuperalbsTravels  Před rokem

      @@aightg Presumably you can magically predict when people are coming then? Cool.

  • @karozagorus
    @karozagorus Před 11 měsíci

    At least if there is no devastating earthquake you won't die the most terrible coffin shake crash at high speed ever.

  • @numandagoglu6504
    @numandagoglu6504 Před rokem

    the source of baggage problem , there is lot of universty student in eskişehir and everyone using train because its cheap.

  • @LexusLFA554
    @LexusLFA554 Před rokem +6

    Compared to the IC4 you recently reviewed this is incredible, especially for the price.

  • @noahb3700
    @noahb3700 Před rokem +18

    Having only one door per carriage on a train serving high-demand routes might just be one of the dumbest decisions ever made. What a shitshow that was lmao

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Před rokem

      Don't TGV & Thalys also have only 1 door per car too? The mini _Shinkansen_ rolling stock in Japan as well

    • @osasunaitor
      @osasunaitor Před rokem +2

      This is a Spanish train built by CAF, we have them in Spain too (Series 120 and 121 of Renfe).
      I overall like them pretty much, but I agree that the single door thing is a clear downside

  • @mathiasschoenning
    @mathiasschoenning Před 7 měsíci

    Trains are mainly expensive because they aren't subsidized and deregularized the same way as the aviation industry

  • @DiamondZombie
    @DiamondZombie Před rokem

    Lol, our Serbian 200km/h trains between Novi Sad and Belgrade cost around 3 euros. They use Standler KISS trains.