The Ritchey Logic Road Disc review: The bike that taught me to slow down and enjoy it
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- čas přidán 17. 11. 2020
- What happens when you get a bike in for the normal reviewing session, but due to the odd situation, we find ourselves in 2020 that review turns out to be something entirely different from what you expected?
Links:
Iain piece on his Ritchey: cyclingtips.com/2020/04/bikes...
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Gravel: • Are all bikes gravel b... - Sport
After watching this it reset my cycling and as a 54 year old made me question what I want from cycling, always hankered for a Ritchey but was looking for a more ‘slack’ riding position. I bought the Outback and thankyou because everything you said in this film im feeling and it makes me smile every time I ride it!
That is awesome to hear. I'm still riding this bike; it may never have been returned for some reason!! I defiantly fell in love with it certainly changed the way I approach getting the miles in now. -Dave
@@VeloVeloVeloTV Glad you still have it! Great when people don’t ask for things back…..My riding has definitely changed, even to the point of forgetting my head unit on occasions and just riding my bike, thanks again for such a great film well presented.
If this is nonsense, it's the kind of nonsense that makes me want to go for a bike ride. Great stuff.
Ha ha , cheers - Dave
It's been a good year to just enjoy the ride. The bike has kept me alive this year.
I lost my job due to the virus. So, I decided to take some time off and just ride. I have never raced, I just go at my own pace breathing and enjoying the surroundings. I have never been able to enjoy riding my bike as much as I do now. I have a gravel titanium bike with 40s on it. It's heavy but every time I see it I just fall in love all over again with it.
Sorry to hear about you loosing your job. But being able to enjoy the bike more than ever is a pretty good side effect. - Dave
Everything you said - is exactly why I adore LSD rides (emphasis on the Slow) on my 27 year old Serotta Colorado Legend Ti. With skinny round tubes but modern components and 26c tires, every mile is a therapy session; a nostalgic reminder of why I ventured down this path in the first place.
I was looking at new framesets last night, just getting the urge for an upgrade out of boredom....this video was the circuit breaker I needed.
throw some money my way
What you talked about with the bike is far more important than what is typically discussed. Glad the bike touched your soul.
Beautifully said. You found it in your Ritchey, I did in my Litespeed T5-Gravel. No chasing average speeds, just go out to enjoy and explore. I love and share this spirit.
What a beautiful bike to go along with your search for inner peace and strength in these troubling times. Cheers!
Well said sir.
The older I get, the faster I was.
When I'm on the Ritchey I often find myself singing a Steve Earle song The Other Kind.
Written for motorcycle I know, but I still find it fitting.
Yeah, but nowadays I got me two good wheels
And I seek refuge in aluminum and steel
Aw, it takes me out there for just a little while
And the years fall away
With every mile
I'm back out on that road again
Turn this beast into the wind
There are those that break and bend
I'm the other kind
Totally agree with the sentiment in this video Shoddy. I bought an alu Canyon Grail last Christmas to start exploring some back roads here in Tuscany. To have a bike I can treat rough and not be too concerned about with paint scratches and bruising, and ended up falling in love with slower riding & exploring. After all my planned events were cancelled this year, I ended up doing lots of gravel riding & bikepacking and just general exploring. Enjoying a slower riding lifestyle. So much so, that the gravel bike has become my go-to and that my baby, my BMC timemachine road bike, has been relegated to "back up"! We have the slow food movement, and now i'm embracing the slow ride movement! 😁
Great to hear. - Dave
I've been looking into getting a trail bike for weeks some months ago, almost pulled the trigger on one only to find out it had just sold out like so many bikes this year. While I was checking out other bikes, contemplating, comparing, evaluating, even considering to get an e-trail bike this thought in the back of mind kept coming back...get a gravel bike, lighter, more versatile, like a road bike but so much more. Then I saw the new Cube Nuroad Race 2021 model at my bike store, only a few of them that just as quickly sold out - when that happened I was already riding mine and loving every minute of it.
There are not many things that are good, I mean really good in life but a great bike ride, those rides that you really enjoy, soaking it all in, looking around, breathing deeply and happily, those moments are about as close as you can get to bliss in this here quagmire that we call life. Great video Shoddy.
Love the philosophical rambling. These Ritcheys are lovely bikes.
On a bike is my happy place, headspace is right.
Thanks for the great review Shoddy! I've always been a massive fan of Ritchey road bikes and recently my dream came true and I managed to pick up a second hand 2016 Ritchey Swiss Cross in stealth bomber black. I also wanted to get into gravel riding so my idea of "one bike does all" was the plan. My previous bike was a lovely ti Sabbath which I thought rode pretty well - until that is I first rode the Swiss...OMG. All I can say is I know EXACTLY what you mean and what all the hype is about with these bikes and their beautiful steel frames. Just so responsive, smooth and so damned cool! Then I rode it off road last weekend - wow. Tom Richey is a genius is all I can say... I'm looking forward to many more miles in the saddle and this Swiss will never be up for sale. Bike for life.
That's great to hear. I'd love a swiss cross. And you're right, Tom knows a thing or two about putting a nice bike together. Enjoy - dave
Perfect review, I own a Fairlight Strael with Di2 for exactly the same reasons. No power meter, no cadence sensor, just get on it and ride. External rear cable hose routing just made it easier to build. Everyone should build a bike like this for the exact same reasons. Thank You, love it.
Wow, your video & words rang so true for me. This past May I gave my brother my old road bike and bought a Ritchey Road Logic (rim), it has been such a big lift of my spirit. The feel of the bike is so comfortable and familiar, yet still can fly. Seems everyone cycling has had their hearts warmed from riding during this time. Great "review"!
They're a lovely bike ain't they. And I think you're right this years definitively had people looking at cycling different. - Dave
Cool video again Dave.👍. I’m into vintage road bikes and a lot of what you say here is exactly how I feel when I’m out on them. Plus the finding, restoring & building process is a load of fun too.
This video spoke to me. I have slowly given up on smashing it every time and simply enjoying the simple pleasure of pedaling. Comfort over kudos.
Great review Dave! Rode my all black Logic Disc today (had a rim version before but upgraded to disc) and absolutely love it!! It makes you smile ever ride, fast or slow!
That black looks super glossy. I've seen it on the cross bike and it is sweet. - Dave
Disc brakes are not an upgrade from rim brakes but keep buying what they are selling. I am sure the bike companies appreciate it.
During lockdown I got out my 20+ year old steel frame rim brake bike I hadn't ridden for many years and rebuilt it with parts ordered online. I made it a 1X7 speed for simplicity and have really enjoyed riding it since but I always thought I would get a newer bike at some stage but now after seeing many videos like your explaining how pleasant steel framed bikes are to ride I am starting to realise I might be disappointed with new bikes. The only downside is mine is 11.6kg.
At the end of a race...you are right where you started. Enjoy the ride.
Love your videos
Very informative, interesting and a great accent ❤️
Keep up the good work Bro 👍
I just got a Ritchey Road Logic in the Sally's Macaroon color. Put Campy Record 11sp mechanical on it. I LOVE it. Was riding a Pinarello carbon before this and I find the Ritchey is so much more satisfying. Between the Vittoria Corsa 25 tires and the frame it really smooths out the road yet feels fast, corners well and it very stable. Love it!!!! Will be getting a Ritchey Outback in the near future!
I completely agree Dave. I added a Standert Pfadfinder to my stable during the summer and I love taking it out. It's one one bike, where I'm trying not to beast myself when I'm riding it!
I love it Shoddy! Way to delve into the mindset that a bike puts us into as we throw our leg over the top tube.
It's what it's all about, ain't it. - Dave
Thank you for this, really thoughtful and refreshing among all the other KOMs are Life, videos !
Glad you enjoyed it! - Dave
It's pretty refreshing watching a review without having "light, stiff and aero" jammed down my throat. lol. The bike's a beaut!
Cheers. You get very little jargon sent over or on the Ritchey website. They let the bike speak for itself. - Dave
I totally agree with your mindset. Sometimes you have enjoy the connection between man, bike and nature. Zen moments if you will
Thank you Dr Dave.
I totally agree with you Dave I like riding my new Emonda but love riding my skinny tubed ti gravel bike for great adventures on and off the road without the feeling of having to go on a mad thrash , great video Dave !
Loved it! Totally get what you are saying! Keep them coming and thanks!
Love you, Bro. Great review! Now I want to ride one.
Ok. Live in Co Donegal,West Coast of Ireland. Thank goodness this years insanity and lockdown madness has been balanced a little with my renewed interest in just riding my bike! Built my gravel bike last year and for much of this year been going out most days for an hour or two,just riding my gravel bike on mountain backroads and forestry. I emphasize ‘just riding’ . Then as an unintended bonus when the club was able to get out on group rides found myself going really well! Did a 140km ,very hilly ride after nothing more than two hours of steady riding for months....was flying! Bonus! So you bring up a very important issue,often overlooked in the world of carbon,performance related ( often driven by the industry) cycling content.....
You’ll have to try the Ritchey Outback, a bike that can nearly do it all and soothes your sole.
Agree! I have one, the Breakaway version. I take it everywhere I travel now. Even fits "inside" my 911!
This is cycling poetry.. Makes me want to ride my bike..
I'm just about to head out on it now (yes I may have acquired it after this love letter to it). And thanks. - Dave
I bought the rim brake version of the road logic this year. It's like riding on a magic carpet compared to my old 2006 Fuji Roubaix aluminum/carbon frame. Before that I was riding an 1988 Dave Scott Centurion. I knew I wanted to go back to steel, and the Ritchey has been an absolute pleasure. I rode the most comfortable and fun 40 miles of my life on it three weeks ago. The steering sticks out the most after the comfort, it's both stable and responsive. I love it.
The steering is super impressive. I didn't expect it to handle so snappily down mountain sides as it does. - Dave
Great message, you’re spot on. Enjoy your riding, everyone.
Absolutely - Dave
You hit it on the head. We need to be reminded to leave the electronics home and have fun on the road or trail. My philosophy, especially as I have matured (64), is if it is not fun I'm not doing it!
100% agree with your philosophy. - Dave
Lovely, sweet video. Thanks.
Great stuff Dave! I’ve got this bike in the same colorway and a not quite as nice of a build.. but I agree. It’s really helps me appreciate just going for a spin
Right on! - Dave
Great video. Not nonsense. Good work
Important message & well delivered. Thanks 👍.
Mine’s an old Merckx Strada with all new components
Lovely bike. Can't beat an old Merckx - Dave
Had a laugh hearing your take on this.. Completely different to my experience as a broke-ass, non carbon bike owning individual. I picked up the rim brake version this summer to replace a very suddenly deceased frame... and... I think it kinda rips. It's the bike that taught me I could speed up and say f--- the roses, leave my comfort zone, and fly among the dentists. Besides, by the time I can afford anything lighter I'll have deposited so many watts in the bank of quad that I'll be able to cruise uphill with the earth-shattering might of a man carrying no water bottle... with two water bottles!
Don't get me wrong, this bike can rip. It is one of the best I've thrown a leg over for dashing down mountains. It's just not got that pure race bread feel about it. - Dave
Great video. You'd love the Outback !
Agree, get out and enjoy the ride, take in the scenery. Too many are preoccupied with trying to be like the pros, and set/chase Strava segments.
Nice video Shoddy, thank you.
No problem 👍 - dave
This is a beautiful bike and what a colour scheme 👌🏼
The do seem to manage to do some ace colour ways. And on occasions knock out some limited edition paint jobs that never fail to be amazing. - Dave
Another nice VDO sir. She is a beauty indeed.
Spot on! I ride for the sake of riding. I'm a bit senior in my years and cycling keeps my and body and mind in a good place. I'm not the fastest up the hill or setting any KOMs but thats not why I ride. I ride for the joy and sensations of cycling. Plus I get to ride with my "mates" as you might say!
Thank you very much for this interesting movie. Best regards from Austria by Gerhard
what a breath of fresh air!!!!
For me Steel is the ultimate feelgood frame material !
True words! Just enjoy your ride!
Exactly! - Dave
Soul rides for the WIN!
Very nice views on the Plan Bois from Manigot ! Such a nice place !
It really is! Lovely place - Dave
"Knock another couple kilometers off an hour", Love it!
Wise wise words Shoddy 👏 👌 👍
Great bike, I've been wanting one for a while. I was able to enjoy riding again by getting rid of Strava.
Same here! It was great not overthinking the social media aspect of strava, and just enjoying the ride
My strava updates automatically but I don't think I've logged in and looked at in many months. - Dave
Inspirational and fun as always. Tnx Dave!
My pleasure! - Dave
Thanks for your thoughts in general and about this beautiful bike. I am planning to buy one of these frameset and am wondering if this frame is compatible with 32mm tires. I know the spec says 30mm, but I'm hoping the 32 will fit.
Hi. I have put 32mm on it before, it fits but there's not loads of room from memory. But it works. All depends too on what brand you're using and what wheels. 32 oddly is different for each combo! I ran Hutchinson Fusion 5 with the Zipps 303s - Dave
I have the rim brake model and love it, a great bike...
So does my dad. He may also like his bike as much as I like this - Dave
Man I've been juggling between carbon and steel. Logic is one of my option. Been thinking about getting a logic in rim. This review might just sold me
mechanical or electrical shifting?
@@xHol2nYx probably mechanical ultegra/105. Also maybe the rim brake version for more weight saving. One of my friend's Logic frame equipped with custom made wheels and SRAM Rival only weighted about 7.6kg, Id's say anything below 8.5 kg good enough for me.
That would be a great build. Perfect for traveling too. Discs are great performers but for traveling can be a hassle. I'm guessing your build would be way less than this- Dave
Do it. I built my Logic with rim brakes, full 105 components. The bike oozes comfort and reliability. I was trying to find a less expensive frame option, but I knew I wouldn't be happy unless I got the Ritchey.
Love to wrap my legs around that sweet thing.
And I'd love to ride the bike too.
Most welcome perspective, Shoddy. Thanks for that. And...brrreeeeeaaattttthhhhhe
Brilliant
Brilliant 👍🏼
Thanks for your videos! You can use 32 tyres with this configuration?
I'd say a big 30mm at most. A 32 would be a push. Depends on the brand though I suppose.
I have been like this before this year but certainly it accelearted through the pandemic...not chasing the fastest but other goals - Veloviewer Explorer Tiles have bene my big indulgence this year - explorer areas and not repetitivley riding the same routes...ride fast, ride slow but explore new places...
Well said
Good message! before i got my carbon frame i would ride my trek steel frame. id cruise around and air hump my bike to my music. so careless and free. it was fun. now with my carbon frame im a little more serious when i ride, consistent paranoia about someone wanting to steal my pretty bike is messing with my head. I enjoy riding everyday!
Poetry mate poetry.
Your the man ! Steel is real 👍
You got that right!...about the steel! - Dave
After this review I ordered one. Really looking forward how it will turn out
You won't be disappointed- Dave
@@VeloVeloVeloTV It took a while to build, but now I have put some miles on it. I love it. You could not have been more right about it. Love it!
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great review, the bike is a beauty. I love my swisscross, this could be my N+1 (N-1 + 1 = N-1)
Good choice!The Swiss Cross is lovely - Dave
Nice looking bike Dave
Even better in the flesh/steel - Dave
Brilliant.
It sure is a brill bike - Cheers
Great nonsense as always! Keep up your unique style!!
Late to the party on this, that’s a beautiful bike!
It sure is, and it'll be getting some miles in over Christmas. Cheers Dave
I totally agree. Not fast just smooth….like the old days
Like. Ah! Dave. When you go for a ramble on your own leave the head units at home. Feel the legs, listen to the lungs and take in all the fresh air you can. Bliss.
Don't forget to go home though.
Thanks Dave! I've been eying this frame for some time and wanting to put on a pre-2015 Campy group on this.
That would be a lovely set up. - Dave
I guess shoddy, you are in a somewhat unique situation with the amount of bikes you ride or have on hand, me on the other hand only have one, so its always good no matter what ride, as long as you ride.
You ain't wrong. I honestly felt this bike brought me back to remembering what I loved about cycling when I started. Having nice test bikes on hand can sometimes muddy how you fell in love with cycling. - Dave
I recently got a pair of Ritchey Venturemax handlebars. I wasn't sure about the bump but I became a believer on the moment I reached my hand from the bar to the levers.
Lesson learned. Don't doubt Tom.
Tom certainly seems to know his stuff. I'd love to visit his garage and see what he's cooking up. - Dave
Cool bike. We often forget that the real reason to ride is because it’s just fun. The best rides are when you turn off Strava, drop the streamlined bike kit clothing and just grab your cargo shorts and a t-shirt and just take off without a care in the world.
Totally! - Dave
What a nice bike
May I know what size it is?
Hi, I ride a 54cm. and I'm 178cm tall). Hope that helps - Dave
Hi, Thanks Dave.
I have been enjoying taking my Clamont. Steal is still real!
More Vids from Philosopher Dave!
More to come, but maybe not as "deep" - Dave
great review and the bike is a beauty. i think you should figure out how to make it part of you collection
Absolutely. I’m sure Tom could “work something out 😉”
After all, it’s scratched now innit
Good point, and it's been "abused" by my off road adventures. - Dave
That was cracking. Thank you. I bought a Ritchey Logic for my 50th birthday, seven years ago. Absolutely love it and its taken me on some cracking rides and completed the Mallorca 312 three times. I have a carbon Roubaix that's well tricked up but it leaves me cold so I'm now thinking of getting a Disc version of the Logic but sending it away for a paint job. I'm doing the 212 again in 2024 and want to do it on steel. Theres something about steel that makes me smile.
Cheers. I'd kill to do the 312, and especially so on a steel bike. Maybe an aim for 2024. As for the paint job, get it glossy, these bikes look superb with a high gloss finish. The new rim version has a stunning paint scheme. Thanks - Dave
I got a rim brake Ultegra Road Logic at the beginning of the year and it is the best all-arounder I've ridden. OK with 23c-25c tires but much prefers 28c-32c. For about 70/30 road/gravel, this can be the one bike to do it all. I've also ridden Swiss Cross. It's got that same Ritchey ride but designed for bigger tires, more compliance, more offroad. It can do 30c but seems best with about 35c. Last, definitely recommend trying with an 11-32/34. I managed to use all cogs, almost equally.
Hey, thanks for your comment, I have it as well, currently mounted with schwalbe 30mm. I was wondering if 32 would fit, you said it does? Thanks for your help
Happy Shoddy
A very happy Shoddy - DAve
Ritchey’s sales pitch is “ Yes you have a fast carbon bike but your other bike will be a Ritchey” Ride quality
That should be a in all their marketing material. - Dave
Every time I hop on my TCR I feel like I need to be chasing KOMs and maxing efforts. It honestly takes a lot of the fun out of it to be putting that pressure on yourself. I love taking my gravel bike out for this reason, it’s just a better time, more of the time.
I'm not liable to keep any bike forever, but my Road Logic is the one I'd sell last!
Agreed. I've heard many people say that - Dave
Like the bike, but it's not a cheap bike by any means, especially with those zipp 303s wheelset and sram etap groupset... It is possible to enjoy ride even with some more affordable components... I think there are many steel bikes out there more affordable and far better looking also...
Shoddy speaking for all of us who ride bikes just to enjoy the views.
Everything said here is true! I picked up my Logic Disc a few months ago - never had such big smiles on a bike - a damn joy to ride every single time.
You can see my local shop put together my build here:
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Yep I know what he means I haven't had 50mm carbon wheels on or TT bike out. Just riding outside and ignoring the KOMs LOL
What KOMs?!!! ; - Dave
I'm with on this one, Shoddy, but get rid of that power meter, ya poseur.
How about if I just take the battery out? - Dave
Ritchey has not made a frame for a long time, this one came straight from Taiwan
Maybe we need to take a breath and go for a Ride: Tom very likely didn't wield the gas axe on my frame, nor many others. But, he's a well known face around Maxway Cycles in Taichung City - and they do a great job with Ritchey Designs.
But I think you knew that.
He is the man that designs all the frames. I'd love to see inside his garage at the bikes that didn't live up to his standard. - Dave