It’s good to see you out there with your son. You’re good at encouraging him. Somehow, you need to encourage him to stand up on the balls of his feet more. He’s really getting bucked around & losing control by sitting so much.
Oh I know and so does he. He watches the footage and says “I need to stand up more”. I think he will be like my older kid. He kept sitting and sitting then one day he stood up and bam! That was it.
Yeah that is the weird thing of the race edition. Beta is popular in PA. Great in the forest, a little smaller than KTM, turns tight (even better with the new radiators), lots of low RPM lug. But, the stock KYB valving seems to lean more towards XC / traditional enduro faster pace riding. Maybe that’s what the complaints are about? Dudes buy it as forest bike but it doesn’t have forest bike suspension out of the box.
@@highlandcycles Are you available to do some of the exact stuff to my bike that you are doing to yours? Why re-invent the wheel, plus I do not have a convenient set up right now...rather drive 26 hours to an expert.
@@highlandcycles I will be in touch brother...headed to KY in the am to get the 2024 300 race edition...def want that fan and delete that thermo...our woods get sticky and humid in the summer...I'll have to look up the polymer colors again for that 360...I'm a beat up 56 yo retired Marine so Im slowing down my friend. Thank you.
The Xtrainer I had and Betas I’ve ridden have all had a “fast” front end. We dropped my buddy’s forks down like yours and adjusted the sag a bit and it was peachy.
If forks feel stiff, maybe try bleeding air out if forks ...I bleed the air about every half hour...can feel the difference...elevation, temp, etc ...all air pressure build up the n fork...
Great to hear your thoughts on the bike and looks like you and your son were having fun! I was finally able do some riding at RAM here in Co Springs on Sunday, and I thought the bike did well. Spent quite a bit of time on the back track hitting the jumps, and then messed around on some techy sections as well. I think this bike is going to work great for the CORCS races, and should be a little more capable than my two 20+ y/o KDXs. ;-)
I would love to see you try a RK Tech head, I contacted Kelsey and he said he's working on one as I'm waiting for my 2024 Beta 300 Race Edition to show up at the dealership. May YAH Bless you. Thanks
As far as the vibration goes, I thought the motor was loose in the frame. When you get the compression release pick yourself up some rubber foot pegs. lol. Your son is riding great, certainly not a lack of effort on his part.
About the cameras, the new 360 has good picture quality and the stabilization is great but the wind noise is awful, GoPro almost no wind noise. Maybe try some of those "kitty hair" stick on wind screens over the mics. Also, with each camera it would be nice to have them set farther back on your chin mount if possible or a wider POV setting. IMO you should always be able to see the fender in the shots and a bit of the bars. The kid is having fun out there, that's awesome.
Glad to that Ewan doesn't have to waste money on brake pads. Does he even know where the brakes are? He's really getting fast. I think you're in trouble...😜
Looking good, Been looking for some info a beta 300rr or a sherco 300 se before i buy one. Beta would be turned into a race bike, not sure if the extra work is worth it vs sherco.
Dang Morgan, I’m starting to wonder about you man! Rainbow helmet, riding a beta! Anything you want to tell us😂 JK man, loving this review series so far.
how does it fill weight wise compared to ktm300. it may be interesting when you Riding to compare what you fill to the KTM like you did the vibration. just started watching the video so far great.
I have a 2021 te300 and last spring I picked up a 2022 crf250r at a good price. it took me a little work to finally get the suspension valved to work like I want it to but when I got it setup I really like it because it feels lighter, turns really quick, it fills short and agile. I like riding it way more than my te300. we ride some really tight trails in Al. I plan on sailing the te300 and maybe picking up a beta 200.
Sounds like it lugs great but you don’t seem as excited as when you first rode the XC. Looks like the XC will be the main bike and this one just for the more technical stuff? Thanks for all the content!
Are those forks the Triple S version?, I think once you revalve the suspension the twitchy feeling will be gone, unless your racing really high speed desert stuff I don't think stabilizers really do much, I stopped using mine awhile ago and I like it better without it, and just an FYI, Lance charges $25 for the custom lettering on the Mako 360.
Hey Morgan, thanks a bunch for all you do, great videos. I hope you can answer this question, does the bike rip at all, in the beginning of this video one of your friends rode it and said it has NO Hit, how do you feel about it, will it keep up with your sons yz250 or is it tame in comparison to the YZ or the XC, I think a lot of people would like to hear your thoughts, all the videos out there show the race edition chugging along 2-3 gear bike, but almost everyone whom buys the RE300 want to also occasionally take it from the tight single track to a track or just some open fast trails, but their are no videos out there that cover the fast stuff with this bike, what’s your honest opinion, I understand it’s a great motor but how does it compare.
I’ll do a video specifically on that but no, it doesn’t rip like a YZ or my XC. It’s crazy linear and has a ton of grunt but doesn’t sing like those others. That’s why I bought it. I already have that. But if I could only have one, currently, I’d still choose my XC. It hauls ass and still chugs pretty freaking good. You can do some things and make them more like an XC but it seems better to use it for what it’s good at.
Some of that smoothness is likely from the Suzuki needle...they were too smooth for my liking and I ended up back with the stock needle and specs based of the chart in the manual...been perfect for me and all I ride is slow gnarly stuff!@@highlandcycles
Sherco.. sherco.. sherco. My 250se. Rips and still climbs hills like a Billy goat. Just bought another one.. I'm sure if I was at elevation like that I would want the 300.. but at sea level the 250s with a touch more compression rip.
@@highlandcycles "Ready to Race" vs "Rideability". The bikes are living up to their design. It'd be neat to see you open back up the test loop and lay down some times, after you get several rides under the belt and the suspension to your liking. The times might surprise you.
You know I love you guys but I'm hating on the new beta!, I got a 23 200, but I'm wishing I got the 300 race! Is what it is.. I like my 200, and when I progress alittle more ill move up to the 300
@@retrograde11 i think the 200 is plenty of power and speed, but as I get better at riding I can see myself wanting a bigger motor, more power... so then I'm spending more money lol Now I'm looking at the sherco 300 four stroke cause my riding preference is evolving to other types of trails, plus making it street legal for back roading, and double track riding
wonder why with motos we don't talk about and know all the geometry numbers, stuff every moutain bike nerd knows .. seems obvious based on your findings beta has a much steeper head angle than ktm xc
It’s too much spring. It was originally setup for me (185lbs) but he just wants a bigger bike so he doesn’t want to mess with it. Also he needs to stand up more. And if you’re wondering why I don’t just do it for him??? Because my kids do their own work and pay for parts.
Man I hope Beta figures out the vibration too because I get tired of reading post like this. Morgan agreed with you but also in the video he said in 10 minutes he doesn't even notice the vibration. EXACTLY! And you never notice again until going back and forth from a KTM. Yes the KTM is smoother, but its a non issue. The Beta vibration is far from bad and the only time you will ever notice it is for 10 minutes after you get off a KTM. I've got both the KTM and Beta so know a little bit about the subject. You orange kool aid drinkers got to hold on to something. 😂 Come on in, the water is warm.
@@csmith7693 just a fact of life, no need to take it personal. I have a ktm, gas gas and beta at the moment. Highly prefer the ktm platform in performance and most importantly, parts availability.
@@csmith7693 That's an interesting assessment on parts availability, unless you live in a Beta warehouse, it's simply not true. Test it as follows: go to any race, riding spot etc. ask 10 people for an extra ktm rear wheel, will bet money you will find one. Do the same for Beta, highly unlikely. Simple numbers, 9 out of 10 enduro riders are on the KTM platform as of now in 2024. I can give you infinite examples, look up any enduro race result, count KTM platform vs Beta.
I ride the Beta since 2020, they get better every Year 👍 great test 👍.
Thanks for your honesty, that’s why people value your opinions and enjoy your videos!
How cool, you're having a blast riding with your kid.
Heck yeah
It’s good to see you out there with your son. You’re good at encouraging him. Somehow, you need to encourage him to stand up on the balls of his feet more. He’s really getting bucked around & losing control by sitting so much.
Oh I know and so does he. He watches the footage and says “I need to stand up more”. I think he will be like my older kid. He kept sitting and sitting then one day he stood up and bam! That was it.
@@highlandcycles That’s a great attitude - that shows a “growth” mindset!!!
Us OCD folks REALLY appreciate the evenness of those start/stop switches! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣😂❤️
Yeah that is the weird thing of the race edition. Beta is popular in PA. Great in the forest, a little smaller than KTM, turns tight (even better with the new radiators), lots of low RPM lug.
But, the stock KYB valving seems to lean more towards XC / traditional enduro faster pace riding. Maybe that’s what the complaints are about? Dudes buy it as forest bike but it doesn’t have forest bike suspension out of the box.
Agree
Best videos I have ever seen. You are my first ever subscription!
Thanks so much!!
@@highlandcycles Are you available to do some of the exact stuff to my bike that you are doing to yours? Why re-invent the wheel, plus I do not have a convenient set up right now...rather drive 26 hours to an expert.
@@oaktree5943 absolutely. We can help
@@highlandcycles I will be in touch brother...headed to KY in the am to get the 2024 300 race edition...def want that fan and delete that thermo...our woods get sticky and humid in the summer...I'll have to look up the polymer colors again for that 360...I'm a beat up 56 yo retired Marine so Im slowing down my friend. Thank you.
Love ur videos man, i am considering getting a 2024 Beta 300RR
Quite like the looks of the Molecule handguards. Bought a set for my '24 300XC from Ben.
The Xtrainer I had and Betas I’ve ridden have all had a “fast” front end. We dropped my buddy’s forks down like yours and adjusted the sag a bit and it was peachy.
Looks like a blast, your son is rocking, looking forward to more Beta content.
Lots coming
I dropped the countershaft sprocket down one tooth on every Beta I've owned and the gearings been spot on after that.
Yeah I have plans for gearing b
That kid is a riot! He is 100% full send mode 100% of the time 😂
🤣😂
If forks feel stiff, maybe try bleeding air out if forks ...I bleed the air about every half hour...can feel the difference...elevation, temp, etc ...all air pressure build up the n fork...
What a great dad! Compared to your riding on the KTM XC and when you rode the XCW, it looked like you were not gelling on the Beta at all.
Before people even crash, and someone behind is already ready to say: "Are you okkeiii?"😂
Great to hear your thoughts on the bike and looks like you and your son were having fun! I was finally able do some riding at RAM here in Co Springs on Sunday, and I thought the bike did well. Spent quite a bit of time on the back track hitting the jumps, and then messed around on some techy sections as well. I think this bike is going to work great for the CORCS races, and should be a little more capable than my two 20+ y/o KDXs. ;-)
Right on
I would love to see you try a RK Tech head, I contacted Kelsey and he said he's working on one as I'm waiting for my 2024 Beta 300 Race Edition to show up at the dealership. May YAH Bless you. Thanks
As far as the vibration goes, I thought the motor was loose in the frame. When you get the compression release pick yourself up some rubber foot pegs. lol. Your son is riding great, certainly not a lack of effort on his part.
Haha. That’s for sure
Might be a good idea to invest in a plug in Mic for your Go pro, its Hard to hear your voice over the engine sometimes. Other then that Great Video
Just soften it up compression and or open up rebound a bit and see how it feels
About the cameras, the new 360 has good picture quality and the stabilization is great but the wind noise is awful, GoPro almost no wind noise. Maybe try some of those "kitty hair" stick on wind screens over the mics. Also, with each camera it would be nice to have them set farther back on your chin mount if possible or a wider POV setting. IMO you should always be able to see the fender in the shots and a bit of the bars. The kid is having fun out there, that's awesome.
I did the wind noise fix like I did on the GoPro so hopefully it quiets it down.
Oh ya also install a 13 tooth front sprocket. Cheers
Get it!!!
Cool to see you giving the Beta a fair shake. On that Insta Ace Pro, man, there's a lot of wind noise. Otherwise, it seems to look good IMO.
Yeah. Already fixed that I hope. Stay tuned.
@@highlandcycles I figured you would and I hope it works out.
Beta is known for trials bikes so , yep that might come into play
Glad to that Ewan doesn't have to waste money on brake pads. Does he even know where the brakes are? He's really getting fast. I think you're in trouble...😜
Looking good, Been looking for some info a beta 300rr or a sherco 300 se before i buy one. Beta would be turned into a race bike, not sure if the extra work is worth it vs sherco.
Dang Morgan, I’m starting to wonder about you man! Rainbow helmet, riding a beta! Anything you want to tell us😂
JK man, loving this review series so far.
Hahahahha
Bike performed well then awesome👍
Yz125 shock spring seems a little stiff,unless set up for cross country racing.
You're a rad Dad!
how does it fill weight wise compared to ktm300. it may be interesting when you Riding to compare what you fill to the KTM like you did the vibration. just started watching the video so far great.
It feels small compared to the KTM and lighter
I have a 2021 te300 and last spring I picked up a 2022 crf250r at a good price. it took me a little work to finally get the suspension valved to work like I want it to but when I got it setup I really like it because it feels lighter, turns really quick, it fills short and agile. I like riding it way more than my te300. we ride some really tight trails in Al. I plan on sailing the te300 and maybe picking up a beta 200.
Sounds like it lugs great but you don’t seem as excited as when you first rode the XC. Looks like the XC will be the main bike and this one just for the more technical stuff? Thanks for all the content!
Yeah. That’s the plan
When in doubt go full throttle it may not help but it will end the suspense
Are those forks the Triple S version?, I think once you revalve the suspension the twitchy feeling will be gone, unless your racing really high speed desert stuff I don't think stabilizers really do much, I stopped using mine awhile ago and I like it better without it, and just an FYI, Lance charges $25 for the custom lettering on the Mako 360.
They are. They are going to be really good.
Hey Morgan, thanks a bunch for all you do, great videos. I hope you can answer this question, does the bike rip at all, in the beginning of this video one of your friends rode it and said it has NO Hit, how do you feel about it, will it keep up with your sons yz250 or is it tame in comparison to the YZ or the XC, I think a lot of people would like to hear your thoughts, all the videos out there show the race edition chugging along 2-3 gear bike, but almost everyone whom buys the RE300 want to also occasionally take it from the tight single track to a track or just some open fast trails, but their are no videos out there that cover the fast stuff with this bike, what’s your honest opinion, I understand it’s a great motor but how does it compare.
I’ll do a video specifically on that but no, it doesn’t rip like a YZ or my XC. It’s crazy linear and has a ton of grunt but doesn’t sing like those others. That’s why I bought it. I already have that. But if I could only have one, currently, I’d still choose my XC. It hauls ass and still chugs pretty freaking good. You can do some things and make them more like an XC but it seems better to use it for what it’s good at.
Some of that smoothness is likely from the Suzuki needle...they were too smooth for my liking and I ended up back with the stock needle and specs based of the chart in the manual...been perfect for me and all I ride is slow gnarly stuff!@@highlandcycles
Sherco.. sherco.. sherco.
My 250se. Rips and still climbs hills like a Billy goat. Just bought another one.. I'm sure if I was at elevation like that I would want the 300.. but at sea level the 250s with a touch more compression rip.
@@highlandcycles "Ready to Race" vs "Rideability". The bikes are living up to their design. It'd be neat to see you open back up the test loop and lay down some times, after you get several rides under the belt and the suspension to your liking. The times might surprise you.
@@csmith7693 I will definitely do that. Been too long
I never liked those pegs either. We'll have to get Ewan on the sherco too.
nice one fellas
Time to buy your son the 200 or 250 version of this bike.. before he steals that 300 from you 😂😂 Great vid. 👍
No kidding
Nice trail...i don't think my mud tires would work there...
What tires do you use for mud ?
You know I love you guys but I'm hating on the new beta!, I got a 23 200, but I'm wishing I got the 300 race! Is what it is.. I like my 200, and when I progress alittle more ill move up to the 300
Why do you wish you got 300? Im about to buy 200 RR/Race and going through the same decision.
@@retrograde11 i think the 200 is plenty of power and speed, but as I get better at riding I can see myself wanting a bigger motor, more power... so then I'm spending more money lol
Now I'm looking at the sherco 300 four stroke cause my riding preference is evolving to other types of trails, plus making it street legal for back roading, and double track riding
@@freetaylor72 thanks! 👍
wonder why with motos we don't talk about and know all the geometry numbers, stuff every moutain bike nerd knows .. seems obvious based on your findings beta has a much steeper head angle than ktm xc
Yes
What brand of vest were you and Ewan riding with?
Wlf enduro. Best out there.
Sick! Where you riding right now?
Near Montrose
Hey Morgan…..I see a 200 RR in his future
He rode one that day. Didn’t have enough power he said. Hahaba
Watching your Son’s rear suspension bounce/kick him around like that makes me think something’s out of whack/adjustment?
It’s too much spring. It was originally setup for me (185lbs) but he just wants a bigger bike so he doesn’t want to mess with it. Also he needs to stand up more. And if you’re wondering why I don’t just do it for him??? Because my kids do their own work and pay for parts.
How often do you go through plugs when ur riding this place. Seems like a lot of low and slke
Never
Last summer i did 60+ hours on my oem plug, mainly slow riding. I will push it to 100 hours. I do a few race, in not even nervous.
Vibration is main reason I won’t get a beta or sherco. Ktm platform is so much smoother.
It definitely is but the low end on the Beta is absolutely brilliant. I hope they figure out the vibes someday
@@highlandcycles the Beta is by far the best sounding 2T there is! Just something about it!
Man I hope Beta figures out the vibration too because I get tired of reading post like this. Morgan agreed with you but also in the video he said in 10 minutes he doesn't even notice the vibration. EXACTLY! And you never notice again until going back and forth from a KTM. Yes the KTM is smoother, but its a non issue. The Beta vibration is far from bad and the only time you will ever notice it is for 10 minutes after you get off a KTM. I've got both the KTM and Beta so know a little bit about the subject. You orange kool aid drinkers got to hold on to something. 😂 Come on in, the water is warm.
@@csmith7693 just a fact of life, no need to take it personal. I have a ktm, gas gas and beta at the moment. Highly prefer the ktm platform in performance and most importantly, parts availability.
@@csmith7693 That's an interesting assessment on parts availability, unless you live in a Beta warehouse, it's simply not true. Test it as follows: go to any race, riding spot etc. ask 10 people for an extra ktm rear wheel, will bet money you will find one. Do the same for Beta, highly unlikely. Simple numbers, 9 out of 10 enduro riders are on the KTM platform as of now in 2024. I can give you infinite examples, look up any enduro race result, count KTM platform vs Beta.
What chin mount got h
Chin mounts brand
Carbureted and non counter balanced? You think they’d up the game by now.
It is counter balanced, just not as well as the austrians and the carb is brilliant. Simple, works well and no chance of computer problems.
Good points!
@@highlandcycleshi man, which carburation have you got?
@@GiovanniGualdo 36 mm pwk
No sorry, I meant settings carburation, jetting needle..
Ktm or beta @highlandcycles
Both