True. Mine hacked into my phone and changed my password and he also got control of my Facebook account for many years. I didn't know why I was locked out of my Facebook account until I found the answer some 7 years later... I then left him a year later.
I know a few who always said sorry but they didn't say what they were sorry for and they couldn't. Even if you asked them to take accountability they would say the words they are taking accountability but that doesn't mean that they are. Cause they don't know what they're taking accountability for. Or they just aren't taking accountability
@@repentandturnfromsin that's a bully who needs someone around them that they believe is their submissive. R your sister is obsessed with you. Watch her crumble when you don't contact her and don't let her in your house.
I pray you get the help you need to get out hun. You are only stuck if you choose to be. Love, light, and blessings hun. You can get out and you are not alone.
I am a hostage too even after he discarded smeared me and campaign for every family members I knew I had discarded me too. They did including my children. He's still over them presiding screaming at them with me locked out at all times it's power over me he WANTS badly so badly he'd kill me if he could he did it it every other social way
TAKE the A TRAIN AND PACK LIGHT. CLOSE UP BANK ACCOUNTS AND GET PHONE NUMBER CHANGES. NO SOCIAL MEDIA. GET A JOB BEFORE YOU GO TO WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. GOOD LUCK
Came here for that comment. Plus password protected.. Like.. obviously?! My laptop is protected because what if I leave it somewhere? Same for my phone. The one app I used to use to communicate with my (now ex) bf also has a passcode to access the messages because .. what if I leave my phone face up at my parents and they see whatever filth he texts me?
My ex narc was fascinated by that polygamist Cody Brown. He would joke about wanting multiple wives. Was very triangulating for me wondering who the other wives would be. 6 months free of him. 🎉
I've just had an experience like this. I got an unusually affectionate answer to a gift which I genuinely just wanted to lift his mood with. I flipped out, said he doesn't owe me anything. All of a sudden he's like I'm always sending hearts and kisses even to my male contacts.. Basically the whole conversation kept on shifting according to what was thought I'd want to hear. Strange experience.
An ex friend would cater to ppl of status and treat ppl who deemed beneath her like crap. She would also shapeshift and mirror whatever group she was in…
Somebody already said word salad. Another thing is if you had stopped dating someone and started dating them again. It's like they're a completely different person because they changed for everyone that they were around in between. It's like they don't have an identity of their own
*More like 500 strange behaviors.. but they definitely demonstrate 5-10 solid ones on a daily basis don’t they… Always the same B.S. -They answer a question with a question to turn the tables… I’ve never heard truer words before!*
I do this lately like cus I'm stupid or like I'm not sure how to answer so I repeat the word like is this coffee? and I say coffee? Cus like idk myself anymore
My ex narcissist, he loved going to jail and bashing me, out of nowhere, we would be getting along and he would turn, a blink of an eye, a fist, in my face, I never understood, karma got him with so many health issues, divorce was not necessary, he died real fast, those type have major heart issues , just sit back.
@@hix9306 I never wished for him to die, he just did, that’s life, I don’t miss the torture, he suffered from the side effects of his heart issues, I know he’s in peace now,
Narcissist is in Cluster B [dramatic cluster; antisocial, narcissist, histrionic and borderline] - there is so many layers to this, so remember to walk with empathy. When you judge a person, be aware, bc you judge yourself in the same way. As human we are capable of what other human can do, we aren't locked down by anything, other than our beliefs. So let it be as close to the truth as possible for growth and good health. As anything else, it's a consistent pattern. Narcs gives me shivers, and psychopaths cold sweat. As a borderline [being on the border between reality and psychosis], we can have same expression, sometimes, as the narc - but we have high empathy, and a consciousness of our extreme actions [at least after]. We have a wish for 'togethetness', but don't always know how to express it, or ourselves, the right way. Bc when you have a "personality disorder", you've had traumas. Take a breath, it's okay to be human. take responsibility, throw the shame away and accept your place in the world. You're not stuck there forever, but how can you move the right direction, if you don't know where you are on the map?
Wow.. I appreciate your profound compassion and gentle reminder. I had been married to someone who was very high on the narcissistic spectrum. He was a neglectful narcissist and malignant narcissist. I was terrified of him. And had nightmares about what he could do to our three kids. I'm free from that. And my kids are grown and know how to physically defend themselves. I got an order of protection for me and for them. When they were young. He had been brutally traumatized as a kid. I often used thst as an excuse and continued with the relationship. I enabled him, in other words. But I completely understand your comment because myself had been abused growing up. And as a profoundly sensitive person combined with the neglect I grew up with I developed bpd. Now I have traits because I worked hard. Ppl with bpd usually don't run from the inner work needed to recover. Sadly those with narcissism are terrified of counseling and inner work. There doesn't seem to be much hope. Maybe there is hope for some who are lower on the spectrum.
@@donnaroman9310 There is hope for everyone. Even for the most severe cases - but you shouldn't take responsibility or accountability for another human. I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's not okay. You didn't know better at that time - and that's okay to. As I can read, you reflect and take action when need be. Be compassionate toward your past self. If there happens to be a next time (no one knows) you know what to look for, within yourself, to set boundaries. It can be an explanation to why narcissists are how they are, but never an exuse (as you wrote yourself " i enabled him") understanding should be used for how to do the right (or better) action in the future. But if the other (narc or not) don't respect those boundaries, you have the power and responsibility to take care of yourself. It's scary with physical change, AND mental change within ourselves, we ad a species are not naturally drawn to it. If anything else, I'll call us BPD passionate. Be passionate for yourself (not in a narc way, but a truthful way), and the rest will follow. Narcs can't see they hurt others, and justify Thier actions. When a person acknowledges their wrong doings, it makes a world of difference. "It's not about what you have or do, but what you do with it afterwards" I say, I'm proud for what you did for yourself and your kids, as another human. It's inspiring. Truly. Thank you for sharing. It was a little rant, i hope it makes sense somehow. Lectures from Marsha Linehan (woman who created the program DBT) has help me alot to understand the mechanics of our BPD or oversensitive brain ad behaviors. You're on the right path, keep your eyes on it, and you'll reach highs you never dreamt of. I wish and hope all the best for you, and your kids 🤍
The Absence of Judgment is Curiosity. AND also, you (as does everyone) deserve to live abuse-free. You can have Compassion from afar so as not to risk exposing yourself to further mistreatment. Good Luck, everyone
This is so true!! Especially appearing one way in front of others but the opposite towards their own loved ones. Power over others, never a straight answer, obsessive, manipulative
Anyone who has been abused by a narcissist will also never leave their phone unattended and will fear being spyed on...so taking the phone with you isn't a good sign.
I knew one , she would contradict herself so much it was insane. She swore she didn't eat pork, so I kindly reminded her that bacon and baby back ribs were pork that she cooked ate and served me at her home. She quickly stated, "I don't eat pork chops though. "🙄
I am reading Where The Spirits Ride the Wind and recognize that my malignant sociopathic narcissistic family member always works himself into an ecstatic state. The behavior might be influenced by spirits that they don't understand and of course are dangerous.
Why is there often little help offered so a narcissist can heal and get better? Just accusations,witch hunts and insults. “what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.”-Sir Thomas Moore
No one talks about how to truly help them. These are people in deep pain for sure, they just make it worse for themselves in time, by destroying good people, so self sabotaging.
Same here...I could not until why when his family visited us...he would behave completely different....he behaved as if he was the absolute perfect person. When they left he was rude. Etc.
@@jacquelinefroehle3583 it was so frustrating. It's really hard to date now after you've been with a narcissist. Are there any video groups to join for victims of narcissism
They are obsessive about their phones and computers because they have weaponized the electronics of their unsuspecting targets. Found that out the hard way
Truth! My husband is a passive aggressive Covert Narcissist. It is totally the truth the ways you explained. What really got me was the question thing - that's REAL!!
My Ex was like that I'm worried about someone stealing my stuff because of my Ex playing hide and seek with my stuff.trying to keep me from leaving his crazy butt.
If you'd ever been on the receiving end of the behavior of one, you wouldn't have to ask. Can take a lifetime to get out from under it for some people.
Narcissistic people are 'drawn' to codependency,.. people without Healthy Boundaries. People pleasers because they are compliant, easy to control, and manipulate. Find out what your deal breakers are and develop your Healthy Boundaries. Don't ever break your own boundaries, EVER. Make 'No' your favorite word. Codependents don't know what they want because they have been groomed by a narcissist to be focused only on the Narcissist's wants and needs. Manipulation by affection, or attention withheld, favoritism of another, etc. You are basically looking for affirmation from a parent who is not capable of giving you anything you need, want, or deserve as their child. It's good to know you can do it for yourself through Jesus. Ask Him to give you Healthy Boundaries, because He is great at the 'heavy lifting'. 💌
@@faithm9284 I think my son married a borderline and narcissist......I think he was manipulated and a rescuer because he's an ACOA. My husband drinks every day. Any input? TIA!
Their love bombing stage one is so heavenly, by the time stage 2 (distancing)comes you're still on a stage one cloud. They use sex as a bait. Once you get hooked they cut out sex and affection for you and start cheating.. Welcome--You've arrived at Crazy town. Good luck.
Not just electronic devices... Specifically phones! Before myne had a mobile, it was the landline! And he'd wrack up huge phone bills and not pay them!
People are talking about he saying "...they taking their phones in the bathroom" which to be fair most of us do it. Please analyse the context that's not what he meant.
After living with their dad as being a narcissist, my children unfortunately were used to, NeverEnding speeches that go on and on and on to drive home what a literal piece of crap he thinks they are over whatever it is they did which is usually with some ambiguous thing. If they said.. ok.. as in, I understand what you're saying.. that led into.. NO NO IT IS NOT OKAY AND ON AND ON AND ON ... HEARTBREAKING AND EXHAUSTING 🎯🤮💔💔😢😢😢
“Why did you lie to me about going there?” “You think I lied to you? You’re always accusing me of something offensive” “Why did you lie to me” “You’re offensive” “Ok” walks away
yes I agree. because of the narc I know, I hide my phone. otherwise he is going thru it in the middle of the night, waking me up to interrogate me about my conversations and contacts. calls me a narc for sleeping with it under my pillow, which is an old habit from my days on the streets. I have to guard myself, and my behavior around this person.... as not to set them off.... can't be myself, walk on eggshells. I am autistic. narcs like people like me... we can be so gullible in the moment....
I have noticed, that a survivor of a narcissist, collect a number of self-defense mechanisms, that appear very close to what a narc does, but the outcomes, and intentions be opposite. The narc uses that to say see, its you that is the narcissist.
Wow. He WAS/IS a narcissist. I was so naive. 16 and clueless, walking into the lions den...little did I know what the next 10 years would bring. 14 years later, I'm still highly disturbed and affected by the abuse endured.
That last one is just good sense nowadays. But yeah, that “questioning your question” I get a lot. It’s not a simple “why do you want to know?” question either, they’re very leading.
Literally my Ex. He was obsessed with Machiavelli, his friends even called him that as a nick name. Physically unable to answer a single question straight. It would always be: Why you bringing this up? Or a question from him, completely disregarding anything I just said... They are masters at confusing you and making you forget why you got rightfully mad.
Yikes my ex once said Charles Manson was an “ok guy, and certainly very intelligent.” He also said he didn’t believe in science or community. That I was “poisoned by elite education systems and he needed to reprogram me.”
They are the hero or victim in any discussion
*Hero AND Victim...
I'm a victim.
Hero, victim, or martyr, are the ONLY roles a narcissistic person knows how to portray.
They sneak into your personal stuff and snoop incessantly
Then accuse you and others of stealing their stuff
@@aprilmurch1054 wow I'm so sorry hope things work out OK for you 💜
True. Mine hacked into my phone and changed my password and he also got control of my Facebook account for many years. I didn't know why I was locked out of my Facebook account until I found the answer some 7 years later... I then left him a year later.
@@candicecampbell9887 💜 I'm glad you're free
@@donnaroman9310 Almost free... I have a child with him so I have to still see that man until my child is 18 years old. I still have 12 years to go.
A narcissist only answers with “word salad”
👍👍👍👍👍
Plus lies
very non-commital word salad
🤣😂 never heard of this before lol
And more lies...comes extremely natural to them
They do talk in circles, don't they?
YES and THEY ARE A HOLES !!!! 🙄😳🚶♀️🚶🚶♂️💯 FACTS
They do.
Yes they do
They def answer questions in circles that's for sure
Here's my narcissistic answer" why would you ask that question if you already knew the answer to it?" (Secretly hating you for figuring me out)
You cannot make them wrong. You just cannot. AND they never apologise. Just cannot say Sorry.
Perfect pathetic description of my former spouse... that's why he's "former".....
Never once did my x in 30 years say he was sorry for anything.
@@cjk6736 they also can't say 'how interesting', unless it is in a fake sarcastic whiny baby voice.
I know a few who always said sorry but they didn't say what they were sorry for and they couldn't. Even if you asked them to take accountability they would say the words they are taking accountability but that doesn't mean that they are. Cause they don't know what they're taking accountability for. Or they just aren't taking accountability
Some say sorry but it’s really just a coverup to try to hide the fact they’re a narc
My sister was an outright shapeshifter. It was strange to watch her shift from her public to private persona, even her voice change.
Yesssss I have a "sister" who is the same way. Nice to who they want to be nice to. We are their punching bags and they think it's funny.
Scary as sh*t
@@repentandturnfromsin that's a bully who needs someone around them that they believe is their submissive. R your sister is obsessed with you. Watch her crumble when you don't contact her and don't let her in your house.
@@zeynand4039 this has been going on nearly 50 yrs now its been hell but thank you for understanding. Sibling abuse is critically under recognized.
I completely understand! My x and my sister brutal abusive Narcissists. Both have other voices …
I'm married to one of these. He's nuts. I'm just a hostage.
I pray you get the help you need to get out hun. You are only stuck if you choose to be. Love, light, and blessings hun. You can get out and you are not alone.
If you're going to stay in that marriage, equip yourself in how to disarm them.
I am a hostage too even after he discarded smeared me and campaign for every family members I knew I had discarded me too. They did including my children. He's still over them presiding screaming at them with me locked out at all times it's power over me he WANTS badly so badly he'd kill me if he could he did it it every other social way
Get away any way you can find one any one do it immediately this isn't a joke or a game it's your life!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE the A TRAIN AND PACK LIGHT. CLOSE UP BANK ACCOUNTS AND GET PHONE NUMBER CHANGES. NO SOCIAL MEDIA. GET A JOB BEFORE YOU GO TO WHERE YOU WANT TO BE. GOOD LUCK
"Takes phone to bathroom."
Me: Watching this while in the bathroom.
Thank you. You kept me from having to admit that in the main comment section! Lol! I always forget my reading glasses in here!
😂
Came here for that comment.
Plus password protected.. Like.. obviously?! My laptop is protected because what if I leave it somewhere? Same for my phone.
The one app I used to use to communicate with my (now ex) bf also has a passcode to access the messages because .. what if I leave my phone face up at my parents and they see whatever filth he texts me?
Same here 😆
My x took his phone to the bathroom. Then he got made because he said I did not need him. Of course I did not need him!
Sadly we don’t realise what we are dealing with till it starts hurting in another level
Like trying to nail jello to the wall
Hate questions....questions are their kryptonite
I don't think I've gotten one straight answer from my narc the entire time I've known him
the visual of nailing jello to the wall...brilliant analogy
My ex narc was fascinated by that polygamist Cody Brown. He would joke about wanting multiple wives. Was very triangulating for me wondering who the other wives would be.
6 months free of him. 🎉
My x thought he was going to have concubines in heaven. Lol. And he claims to be a Christian and knows nothing about what the Bible teaches.
Cody is a disgusting, evil man
Thate great news
You are free
@@RapturereadyforJesus
Disciples of the devil
@@elizabethmontero3361 yes he was!!!!!
Sounds exactly like 2 major narcissists in my life. (Neither I'm around anymore.) Exactly!
I think the phrase your looking for instead of chameleon or shapeshifter is "two faced"
I've just had an experience like this. I got an unusually affectionate answer to a gift which I genuinely just wanted to lift his mood with. I flipped out, said he doesn't owe me anything. All of a sudden he's like I'm always sending hearts and kisses even to my male contacts.. Basically the whole conversation kept on shifting according to what was thought I'd want to hear. Strange experience.
Nope. They have many more that 2 faces. Shape shifter is actually perfect
Nailed it.
If they only had 2 faces...
I literally asked my ex
"Who are you today?"
Also they tell on themselves
Shape shifters is a perfect description
My BF if 7 years…but it won’t be 8!
That's way too long! Stop wasting your youth on shit!
An ex friend would cater to ppl of status and treat ppl who deemed beneath her like crap. She would also shapeshift and mirror whatever group she was in…
Sounds like every politician ever
nailed it. word salids. follow all cash, they want all money
Harold & Markle
My x demanded I sign over my car. Lol
And control over someone else.
Taluta:WTF?
Somebody already said word salad. Another thing is if you had stopped dating someone and started dating them again. It's like they're a completely different person because they changed for everyone that they were around in between. It's like they don't have an identity of their own
These signs are all spot on 👍
Yep, that's our manager! Oh, let's not forget, gaslighting!
get another job.
Hoarding, they are hoarders. At least the covert narcissist is.
Not all hoarders are narcissistic, though. Some people haven't healed the trauma that their narcissistic parents inflicted on them.
New to me.
*More like 500 strange behaviors.. but they definitely demonstrate 5-10 solid ones on a daily basis don’t they… Always the same B.S. -They answer a question with a question to turn the tables… I’ve never heard truer words before!*
I do this lately like cus I'm stupid or like I'm not sure how to answer so I repeat the word like is this coffee? and I say coffee? Cus like idk myself anymore
Mine used to do that but my survival tactic was I learned how to double talk him and it would drive him nuts
give examples pls?
yes, please give us some examples
If they don't want to do something, they will start an argument and then. say it's your fault I was more than to X.
My father would start an argument even if you agreed with him.
Insane.
Yep!
Now add a prison inmate survivalist mindset
And an impulsive drug addiction
Totally!!
That sounds like basic criminal behavior.
My ex narcissist, he loved going to jail and bashing me, out of nowhere, we would be getting along and he would turn, a blink of an eye, a fist, in my face, I never understood, karma got him with so many health issues, divorce was not necessary, he died real fast, those type have major heart issues , just sit back.
It's sad when you want someone to be at rest so that you can finally feel safe and free.
So you’re fine with someone just dying ?
@@hix9306 yup, I went through hell, sometimes karmas a bitch
@@RitaMalikfour I still wouldn’t wish death on my worst enemy but we’re all different I hope you’re better now
@@hix9306 I never wished for him to die, he just did, that’s life, I don’t miss the torture, he suffered from the side effects of his heart issues, I know he’s in peace now,
Narcissist is in Cluster B [dramatic cluster; antisocial, narcissist, histrionic and borderline] - there is so many layers to this, so remember to walk with empathy. When you judge a person, be aware, bc you judge yourself in the same way. As human we are capable of what other human can do, we aren't locked down by anything, other than our beliefs. So let it be as close to the truth as possible for growth and good health.
As anything else, it's a consistent pattern. Narcs gives me shivers, and psychopaths cold sweat.
As a borderline [being on the border between reality and psychosis], we can have same expression, sometimes, as the narc - but we have high empathy, and a consciousness of our extreme actions [at least after]. We have a wish for 'togethetness', but don't always know how to express it, or ourselves, the right way.
Bc when you have a "personality disorder", you've had traumas. Take a breath, it's okay to be human.
take responsibility, throw the shame away and accept your place in the world.
You're not stuck there forever, but how can you move the right direction, if you don't know where you are on the map?
Wow.. I appreciate your profound compassion and gentle reminder. I had been married to someone who was very high on the narcissistic spectrum. He was a neglectful narcissist and malignant narcissist. I was terrified of him. And had nightmares about what he could do to our three kids. I'm free from that. And my kids are grown and know how to physically defend themselves. I got an order of protection for me and for them. When they were young.
He had been brutally traumatized as a kid.
I often used thst as an excuse and continued with the relationship.
I enabled him, in other words.
But I completely understand your comment because myself had been abused growing up. And as a profoundly sensitive person combined with the neglect I grew up with I developed bpd. Now I have traits because I worked hard.
Ppl with bpd usually don't run from the inner work needed to recover.
Sadly those with narcissism are terrified of counseling and inner work.
There doesn't seem to be much hope. Maybe there is hope for some who are lower on the spectrum.
@@donnaroman9310 There is hope for everyone. Even for the most severe cases - but you shouldn't take responsibility or accountability for another human.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's not okay.
You didn't know better at that time - and that's okay to. As I can read, you reflect and take action when need be. Be compassionate toward your past self. If there happens to be a next time (no one knows) you know what to look for, within yourself, to set boundaries.
It can be an explanation to why narcissists are how they are, but never an exuse (as you wrote yourself " i enabled him") understanding should be used for how to do the right (or better) action in the future. But if the other (narc or not) don't respect those boundaries, you have the power and responsibility to take care of yourself. It's scary with physical change, AND mental change within ourselves, we ad a species are not naturally drawn to it.
If anything else, I'll call us BPD passionate. Be passionate for yourself (not in a narc way, but a truthful way), and the rest will follow.
Narcs can't see they hurt others, and justify Thier actions. When a person acknowledges their wrong doings, it makes a world of difference.
"It's not about what you have or do, but what you do with it afterwards"
I say, I'm proud for what you did for yourself and your kids, as another human. It's inspiring. Truly. Thank you for sharing.
It was a little rant, i hope it makes sense somehow.
Lectures from Marsha Linehan (woman who created the program DBT) has help me alot to understand the mechanics of our BPD or oversensitive brain ad behaviors. You're on the right path, keep your eyes on it, and you'll reach highs you never dreamt of.
I wish and hope all the best for you, and your kids 🤍
@@astralydial7533 💖💜
Thankyou for presenting this perspective!🤗
The Absence of Judgment is Curiosity.
AND also, you (as does everyone) deserve to live abuse-free.
You can have Compassion from afar so as not to risk exposing yourself to further mistreatment.
Good Luck, everyone
This is so true!! Especially appearing one way in front of others but the opposite towards their own loved ones. Power over others, never a straight answer, obsessive, manipulative
Yep...loved loved loved when Trump said absolutely anything.
They don't give you a break or understand anything. This man has many issues and l am not safe from him.
It's not my fault this person has personal problems. Thank you for highlighting my comment and l shouldn't be afraid in my own home.
I take my phone in the bathroom because I'm addicted to CZcams.
💁♀️ guilty.
😆😆👏👏💖😇🇺🇲
Laughing as I am in the bathroom right now and on CZcams…
Lol
Lol me to.
Anyone who has been abused by a narcissist will also never leave their phone unattended and will fear being spyed on...so taking the phone with you isn't a good sign.
They are the worst liars, in that, when busted, they don't flinch a millimetre.
They shower twice a day, probably because they know how dirty and evil they are inside.
And because they are compulsive Cheaters who demonstrate no empathy
Isn't normal to shower twice a day?
I shower at least twice a day because I live in a tropical country and my room has no AC. It's freaking hot here, like about 35 °C.
Once after they cheat n once after sex with u :)
Why do they seem happy when angry ? Is it a power thing ?
ABSOLUTELY...& DEFLECTION & PROJECTION....onto others...its never them that is the problem.
They love to under mind you
I knew one , she would contradict herself so much it was insane. She swore she didn't eat pork, so I kindly reminded her that bacon and baby back ribs were pork that she cooked ate and served me at her home. She quickly stated, "I don't eat pork chops though. "🙄
lol
I am reading Where The Spirits Ride the Wind and recognize that my malignant sociopathic narcissistic family member always works himself into an ecstatic state. The behavior might be influenced by spirits that they don't understand and of course are dangerous.
That first trait made me think of Trump. The other four basically confirmed it.
Why is there often little help offered so a narcissist can heal and get better? Just accusations,witch hunts and insults. “what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.”-Sir Thomas Moore
No one talks about how to truly help them. These are people in deep pain for sure, they just make it worse for themselves in time, by destroying good people, so self sabotaging.
@@janebraun4482 it's because their condition by definition makes them impervious to seeing a problem, and therefore making changes is unthinkable.
@@thefreesandwich True, but at some deeper level they 'know' and this fuels more anger toward their 'victim' to cast off their own guilt.
Trump admires Putin and Kim Jong-un🤷🏻♂️
And he seems he fits all 5
Donald Dump
My ex was so different with his family around me then just a total Jerk when we were alone
Same here...I could not until why when his family visited us...he would behave completely different....he behaved as if he was the absolute perfect person. When they left he was rude. Etc.
@@jacquelinefroehle3583 it was so frustrating. It's really hard to date now after you've been with a narcissist. Are there any video groups to join for victims of narcissism
Yep... facade
They are obsessive about their phones and computers because they have weaponized the electronics of their unsuspecting targets. Found that out the hard way
Truth! My husband is a passive aggressive Covert Narcissist. It is totally the truth the ways you explained. What really got me was the question thing - that's REAL!!
"They never seem to have a straight answer." This sounds like Alex Murdaugh during his cross examination.
This is so true! Always playing games, not straight shooters at all...street angel and house devil my grma used to say...
My ex is obsessed with Al Capone! Capone seems to be his hero of sorts 🙄 He has every one of these traits.
Mine wouldn’t lie if the truth would get him out of trouble
They always answer your question with a question. Highly irritating
Your so right. This man knows what he is talking about.
My Ex was like that I'm worried about someone stealing my stuff because of my Ex playing hide and seek with my stuff.trying to keep me from leaving his crazy butt.
My husband sleeps with his phone under the pillow.
He's describing Donald Trump.
And Meghan Markle!!!
And Germaine
Sounds like someone we all know🤐.
Why are people attracted to narcissists? Why are they frequently followed so fervently?
If you'd ever been on the receiving end of the behavior of one, you wouldn't have to ask. Can take a lifetime to get out from under it for some people.
Narcissistic people are 'drawn' to codependency,.. people without Healthy Boundaries. People pleasers because they are compliant, easy to control, and manipulate. Find out what your deal breakers are and develop your Healthy Boundaries. Don't ever break your own boundaries, EVER. Make 'No' your favorite word. Codependents don't know what they want because they have been groomed by a narcissist to be focused only on the Narcissist's wants and needs. Manipulation by affection, or attention withheld, favoritism of another, etc. You are basically looking for affirmation from a parent who is not capable of giving you anything you need, want, or deserve as their child. It's good to know you can do it for yourself through Jesus. Ask Him to give you Healthy Boundaries, because He is great at the 'heavy lifting'. 💌
@@faithm9284 I think my son married a borderline and narcissist......I think he was manipulated and a rescuer because he's an ACOA. My husband drinks every day. Any input? TIA!
Like suxxess?
Their love bombing stage one is so heavenly, by the time stage 2 (distancing)comes you're still on a stage one cloud. They use sex as a bait. Once you get hooked they cut out sex and affection for you and start cheating.. Welcome--You've arrived at Crazy town. Good luck.
Bosses GF ... Walking around the office with her phones record button on.
I caught her!!!! 😂😂😂
Yea i dated a full blown one these characteristics are satanic
Trump:
1. check! 2. check! 3. check! 4. check! 5. check!
Came here to say the same thing. 👍
Yep
Every politician, get real😂
Yes yes and yes
Biden
❤ you're always to the point& on point!!🤗
I work with the public.
EVERYONE takes their phone with them into the bathroom. 🤢
He's referring to home life. Are times when it would just really not be appropriate..
You people miss the point.
U wan people to leave their phones in public spaces & go to the bathroom. ? They would be stolen. He meant at home.
This is so spot on thank u
Bingo....I am suffering one..This clarity has helped me understand my situation better
You just described Donald Trump to the T.
Not just electronic devices... Specifically phones! Before myne had a mobile, it was the landline! And he'd wrack up huge phone bills and not pay them!
Omg this is so spot on.
One way in public and another way behind closed doors absolutely was true
Dame 🤦 I'm half Narcissist 😂 thanks Doc 😬🤙
My X Thank you for word up wow Now I get it Love-N-Light Blessed Be
People are talking about he saying "...they taking their phones in the bathroom" which to be fair most of us do it.
Please analyse the context that's not what he meant.
Absolutely! You nailed it!
This very true my mum was one in fact most of my family are I now do bother with any of them
Wow. This is spot on!
After living with their dad as being a narcissist, my children unfortunately were used to, NeverEnding speeches that go on and on and on to drive home what a literal piece of crap he thinks they are over whatever it is they did which is usually with some ambiguous thing. If they said.. ok.. as in, I understand what you're saying.. that led into.. NO NO IT IS NOT OKAY AND ON AND ON AND ON ... HEARTBREAKING AND EXHAUSTING 🎯🤮💔💔😢😢😢
Man be careful you'll ruin good relationships. Literally 99 percent of people take their phones into the bathroom
It was a very nice way of putting it coming from an empath LOL
OK, that's weirdly specific and yet accurate
“Why did you lie to me about going there?”
“You think I lied to you? You’re always accusing me of something offensive”
“Why did you lie to me”
“You’re offensive”
“Ok” walks away
Some of those things also sound like defense mechanisms from someone who is abused by a narcissist or multiple narcissists
yes I agree. because of the narc I know, I hide my phone. otherwise he is going thru it in the middle of the night, waking me up to interrogate me about my conversations and contacts.
calls me a narc for sleeping with it under my pillow, which is an old habit from my days on the streets.
I have to guard myself, and my behavior around this person....
as not to set them off.... can't be myself, walk on eggshells.
I am autistic.
narcs like people like me...
we can be so gullible in the moment....
I take my phone with me because I can't trust people. Because they gave me a reason to not trust them
People can plant viruses or logger type software and clone your phone.
Pmsl.... That's what my narc always says.
He’s describing tRump.
Gosh sounds just like my mother - just just like her.
I have noticed, that a survivor of a narcissist, collect a number of self-defense mechanisms, that appear very close to what a narc does, but the outcomes, and intentions be opposite. The narc uses that to say see, its you that is the narcissist.
Yes, power over is what they admire.
I'd take mine to the bathroom😂. I have had people on multiple occasions snooping in on my unlocked phone. I cant trust anyone with my phone.
Wow. He WAS/IS a narcissist. I was so naive. 16 and clueless, walking into the lions den...little did I know what the next 10 years would bring. 14 years later, I'm still highly disturbed and affected by the abuse endured.
That last one is just good sense nowadays. But yeah, that “questioning your question” I get a lot. It’s not a simple “why do you want to know?” question either, they’re very leading.
Trump is a classic one
The love of despots explains a lot. Boy are there a ton of narcissists in this country!
Sounds like Trump and MAGA.
Literally my Ex. He was obsessed with Machiavelli, his friends even called him that as a nick name. Physically unable to answer a single question straight. It would always be: Why you bringing this up? Or a question from him, completely disregarding anything I just said... They are masters at confusing you and making you forget why you got rightfully mad.
Never have a straight answer !!!! SO TRUE !!! Jeez
YES, YES and YES.....💯
They like to see others hurt you also.🤔
My phone: taken into bathroom to listen to music :
password protected in case the phone is stolen or lost.
They like all the evil Disney characters who lie and manipulate.
Yikes my ex once said Charles Manson was an “ok guy, and certainly very intelligent.”
He also said he didn’t believe in science or community.
That I was “poisoned by elite education systems and he needed to reprogram me.”